Vic On Having The World's Fastest MK4 Supra, 2JZ Vs B58, and Building a 7 Second Street Supra
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ย. 2024
- In todays episode we sit with Vic owner of Induction Performance to talk about his World's Fastest MK4 Supra, The legendary 2JZ engine and why it's superior to all other import engines. He also breaks down the key differences with the B58 in the MK5 Supra compared to the MK4 2JZ.
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Get James Taal on the pod dude has behind the wheel and wrenching his whole life
This ✔️
You have no idea how badly I would listen to this.. I can guarantee jackstand has some WILD stories.
Between his 3 or 4 kids, a busy af racing schedule with his cars (the nova and 240), gonzo's camaro, and then racing with cleetus in mcflurry, ruby coming back soon, and whatever else he films with cleetus, yall really think he's gonna have time to fly up to NY for a podcast? More likely to see him on an episode of Bogetti Studios.
dudes a LEGEND
2JZ , LS , K20 , K24 (most swapped engines)
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@@frankenstein01 LoL I guess you didn't watch the full video... but that is okay, thx for the reply.
@@frankenstein01I get serial killer vibes from this dude.
I love you enthusiasm, but the old small block and big block are, by numbers, still more swapped than all the others.
@@232_motorsports...ahh but a dying breed. I'd love to see an ls3/ls7 style big block...in aluminum..come on 500 to 600 cubes of aluminum ls..oh yes
Congratulations and continued success Vic in all your endeavors.
You are one of the most competitive person I've ever met and you remain humble as the day I met you. Thanks for all you have done for the community and race scene.
The Supra he made Cletus buy is stupid fast!!
WE NEED CLEETUS ON THE POD!!!!!
HELL YEA BRUTHUR
Cletus is dope but he’ll get cooked!!
Why?
X2
If he come on as Garrett and not Cletus lol
If you watched the redline DVD’s back in 06 those dudes had the fastest Supras
this is a mixed between drake and dj khalid all in one person
lol
I really appreciate Vic's dedication to the scene as well as to his customers. So many questions we have when upgrading performance and it seems that his team is willing to go the extra mile to contribute to a successful customer build. When I relo from Jersey down to Florida, will definitely hit up IP for help on my ride.
2jz is still whipping ass 31 years later… what a godly motor honestly
Yea people be mad asf at Supra's now I always see people talking sht about that and the 2jz engine
It was always an excellent motor they were making over 1000hp 20+ years ago when dart started supplying there own 2jz blocks and now with billet they're even faster
I want to be a 2JZ when I grow up
LOL the B58 is a very capable engine and already making over 1000BHP your comment shows how in reality stupid you are and not very technically minded, the JZ has 20 years on the B58 and still the b58 is already on its toes and chasing, If you still believe the JZ is a better engine then your living in a wonder land.
Bro wtf xD check how stock g series m3 can take. 2jz was nice engine but m50 fuck his ass. All what 2jz can pffer is overhype made by ff movie. M50/b58/s55/s58 and many many more is kicking 2jz ass
Vic and the whole induction performance team are the real deal. Good people to.
As a B58 owner, no doubt the 2JZ is still at the top
Only because of the 20 some-odd years they have of development lmfao
Until billet blocks come out, yes. Then it's game over.
Mod for mod b58 is superior
@@BabaYagaRacing overall 2J still better
Bullshit! you need more mods for a b58 to make 1500hp...compared to a 2j and they can't even make 1600hp or 1700hp with being sleeved and all the shit you have to do to it for cylinder head seal integrity... , b58 will never compare to a 2j in making power... you are delusional guy
The fact that we’re comparing a 30 year old platform/engine to a modern engine that needed several technical updates just goes to show you who the goat is
You pretend as tho they are using 30 year old parts 😂🤡
@@rickyr7790 how were they so fast 30 years ago then genius?
I don't do podcasts... but this just went into my favorites
Vic is a cool dude. Stopped by the shop to drop off my engine from Texas. Had a good experience and they have a lot of knowledge, that made my decision very easy.
Your from Texas and don’t get a ls your gay
10:40 That's how we were in the 90's.. There wasn't any internet and people weren't afraid to lose.. It was all fun either way.. It was all mostly local stuff but it was fun and safe.. It was basically a few guy's from one town racing guys the next town over and stuff like that.. But it was all safe We went to back roads where no one lived. But we didn't have social media back then that didn't really come around until the mid 2000's.. But now I feel like there's a time and a place for everything so when I get someone in a fast car next to me, I just let them go most of the time. Anyway I am older now and don't really care for street racing anymore. But I was young and get it. The older you get the more you just want to baby your cars and chill..
I miss the tristate tuners forum. Such awesome people. the craziest races I ever saw came from car meets from there.
I grew up in victors era of street racing as well and it was far better than what it is now.
yea it's crazy you said that because I have been thinking that for years. cars are faster now but it lacks soul like in the past.
Yeah, the 2JZ is a good platform. In fact, it's such a popular platform that I believe real Street had teamed up with dart and now they have a iron block for the 2JZ
2jz is still better, but for 80% of ppl, the b58 /s58 does all you need 95% of the time anyway. by the time you get into 2jz money you might as well get a gen 1 gtr and buy a sheptrans
Problem is 80% of car people finance their cars and affirm their mods.
@@Bootchairas a former mechanic and salesman. I just decided a 2004 Is300 forged 2jz build with a 400.00 local long block 2JZ GE VVTI block does the trick. Car weighs like 3,250lbs before turbo catch cans etc. financing 44k-100k b58/s58 car is pointless to me. If I did have 50k down for a car it’s none of those cars anyway.
Owned an a80, and used to work at BMW. Bmw’s straight 6’s ARE good.
But the 2j is king.
@Bootchair Holy fuk. So true. My buddies knows a couple of people with outrageous lease payments on their M3s and 330is. But ya, building a 2jz is a money pit
@@Theconjurer17484 it’s all a money pit LOL. Leasing a bmw for 1,900 month or more is crazy plus insurance . Build a car
Man, I am feeling this podcast Victor got me feeling nostalgic on the old highways in Houston. I miss hanging out at the shop, getting some fuel then a highway run...20 years ago....
Rad interview. Thanks for sharing it.
Absolutely FANTASTIC discussion, and I love how humble and realistic he is about how racing used to be.
Back in the day, I saw someone lock in a race... no stips. They went home and swapped a turbo kit off another honda. Within a few hours they showed up to the spot turbo'ed. Back in the day was wild
My boy had a induction build 1116whp usually ran on map3/4 .. literally only lost to a civic n evo 10 roll racing … All bikes got beat !!! All fun runs ! Miss that e85 smell 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Don't sleep on the VG platform from the 90's. Same thing with the correct tuning and mods you could have a beast.
GET CLEETUS ON THE POD!!
Hell yeah brother!
Stay tuned.
Bro PRP has developed a new cast block for the RB and new heads too! And they want to race in America! And they’re also going to do the 4G63 as well. This year and next year I can’t wait to see how much they move forward in drag!
Also billet RB30X is a cross between a RB30 and a 2JZ!
that sounds like witch craft. I have never heard of this.
B58 mod for mod is superior 👌
Got any data to support that claim?
@hatch450sx3 yes we have videos of tune only and dp tune only b58s gapping 2jz
You've always been a clown and you still are. 🤡
Vic has that unique vibe. He would be awesome to just sit and BS about back in the day with. Great discussion gents
Always enjoyed seeing him on cleetus vids, great to hear more about his story!
The 2JZ is definitely EOL. The airflow of the head and the small amount of bearing surface gives it a ceiling that is much lower than people think.
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It was an amazing lump of iron, but time has passed it by.
What exactly, has passed it?
I want to see hommie do 7s on the street
Titan motorsports was the Goat back in the late 90s- 2000s they are still breaking records with 2jz-b58s. I think a few months ago they broke the world record for fastest A90 interview those guys
I love seeing Vic talk his stuff it’s a different side of him and it’s great 😂😂
Street racing in late 90s was the best in my opinion we got down on the street in Detroit
💯
Both have their place and both great engines.
English town, royal purple raceway, and Bradenton are the best tracks
Should do a B58 vs 2JZ event at the track and see what happens, but I know which side will be taking the W.
All this Supra talk, but the Lexus sc300/400 never get any recognition. The SC’s grandfathered the Supra…so sick of people believing the Supra came first.
Merch drop reveal is crazy fw the graphic design 💯🔥🙌🏾
Was about to ask if Tukes was gunna be at FL2K , turns out just had to watch the pod. Amazing.
Vic is what racing needs.
That toyota 2jz engine is just well balanced 3 time engine compared to a flat plane is super smooth well flowed the heads and block have a good volume on the cast to hold the stress. The main caps also. Is just a strong engine
Truthfully there is tons of I6 out there that still whoop ass too that are older. Add in rb26 and the ford barra.
He definitely left out k swap.
8cyl = LS
6cyl = JZ
4cyl = K series
I’m a proud owner of all three 😊
you lucky son of a b*** . I'm definitely hating rn 😭
His dads Supras were sick.
That lot full of mk3's is beautiful!
Love that quote vic said at 26:45 "You never want to buy a car thats not for sale. You buy a car thats not, you gotta pay that tax"
As a B58 owner much respect to the 2JZ but Toyota trusted the b58 for a reason. We gonna stand on business and give the B58 its just do. How can you hate we’re in the 7s already without needing over 1400whp
7s without 1400whp isnt an engine thing. Thats a chassis thing.
@@jthoneyexactly. Chassis, tuning, transmission/differential etc ALL Modern Technology. At its finest too!
MK4 is old school.. There’s guys now just doing more modern upgrades w the transmissions and vvt computers etc.
But your losing what it is..
To me, I could care less about which ones faster..
I just like to cruise most the time! Haha
It’s looks, sound, nostalgia for me. And I fell in love w the mk4 as a kid. And it never became outdated to me.
It’s timeless.
@@jthoney people keep moving their goalpost. at first it was it'll never beat a Hellcat, then it was it'll never be reliable it's a BMW, then it was it won't do 1000hp now they're doing 1500hp. people keep getting proved wrong
B58 baby
2jz running 6 sec 1/4 with a H pattern RWD. Real driver shit. Show me a 6MT g8x getting down on RWD. ZF AWD is what makes those cars fast. ANY decent engine with power hooked up to a ZF is gonna be fast
2JZ with it's iron closed deck block is definitely the best Japanese engine for drag racing but on a road course i rather have a more compact aluminum V6 to improve weight balance.
thats the reason why the best supra doesnt use a 2JZ lol
@TheprodigyTrickShot they had 500hp power limit so didn't need the big heavy 2j... it would of been good to see a unlimited class...
Why am i just now realizing alan is the same alan from cleets channel. Never would’ve thought he owned it. He’s such a great dude!
SHOTS!! 🔫🔫🎆🎆 This episode has me excited!! I am a VIC fan now. Race or don't talk. If I lose fine but best believe I will be back so don't back out when I come to clap back! Gentleman's challenge. Respectful but competitive. As long as everyone is having fun and is safe than that's a win for everyone really. I cant wait to see what you show everyone man.
Can we get TJ OR ADAM Z on this!!!
Amazing work brother I seen you grow so fast and it’s amazing to see process in such short time! God bless 🎉
Adam Lz and Jimmy Oakes on here would be so fire nostalgic asf
After World Cup, Induction should bring the car to The GTR Festival. It would be interesting to see it against the 6 second Aussie cars
I wonder if Vic or any of the current Bradenton scene was part or aware of the Need2Speed era in the early 2000s. There was a great forum and they posted videos of fast cars often. Great times
I’ve had never met victor at all , but I had done business with his partner before many times with alpha till this time , but it’s good to see the success this has made in life , good to see this guys doing well in life and doing more , keep up the good work victor
Victor is awesome .Thank you for all you do for us racers
Tukes man appreciate the cast loving the guys (no Diddy) you have on. I'm thinking of moving soon and looking at all elements a car guy can go and enjoy his craft.
this guy is it. hes the man love his pation and aditude
Didn't realize Vic was a fellow Long Islander. Love that!
Facts!!! 2JZ king of the imports 👑
I might cuz you looked at me crazy 😂 Vic a savage 🫡 mad respect
A Hilux/ early Pickup with a 2JZ powering all four wheels like a GMC Syclone sounds like fun recipe for street digs considering the 4wd's factory 2,920lb curb weight (79-83).
Wait til you see the crazy shit they do with that exact idea in the middle east. Toyota hilux, Nissan patrol, Mitsubishi pajero. They thrown 2js rb26/30, LSs in all them and just wild out.
So dope to see Vic on here induction performance is a block away from the crib
I hope this sparks a lot of high power grudge races! Vic out here callin out the world!!!! MY MAN!
These are the best podcasts currently. Need Cletus, need Bret lasala , Steve morris
cleetus McFarland next!!!
The definition of, “If you love what you do then you’ll never work a day in your life” 🔥
Florida is the place to go for racing on the east coast.. No inspection you can pull you cats and it's all good there.. Thats where you go if you are building a race car and a TH-cam channel for sure..
That Wesley Chapel shoutout was wild!
Crazy thing that Ik tino
Man u crazy, don't sleep on the 2JZ old schools is always better than new school
No it’s not, old man Barbosa.
Bolt on for bolt on....tune for tune....the 2jz will not best the b58
@@LordJerinza on a prepped track? Tune for tune part for part a 2jz will slaughter a b58. In haltech world finals only 3 b58 qualified. The rest broke. There we 2 2jz in top 16. Over 9 qualified
@hatch450sx3 your proven my point. You are bring up stand alone and at a drag racing event. I promise you nothing on those 2jz came from toyota. Like I said bolt on for bolt on. Tune for tune. It's not gonna beat a b58. I never said built engines, stand alones big turbo swaps. Those engines you speak of are soo left field they dont count in the conversation. If you want to say hey let's put 50k in mods 2jz vs b58....sure have that shootout.
@hatch450sx3 also what makes your reply even worse is that you are automatically putting a th400 in the mk4 supra. Come on man
Victor is a lot younger than me but his explanation of street racing sounds like the late 90’s in my area if u had a 11 sec car and a car that made 1hp per ci you had a hot rod. Yea there was nitrous but no turbo stuff. It was the old school thinking of No replacement for displacement
Back in the day people were smart enough not to post shit online and didn’t tell everyone and have 500 spectators. If you wanted to race you didn’t want trouble or to worry about that shit so you go race.
They still do big money quiet races. If you don't know someone invited you ain't going.
Turbo Magazine was our source of info. Loll
The reason why RB’s aren’t commonly swapped especially in the states is because we never had that engine here and aren’t as common. Also RB’s are superior to the 2js.
The RB is undoubtedly more difficult to get a hold of in the US and it has a different performance characteristics than the 2J. But I think that the 2J is better off the assembly line. Motive Video did a segment comparing the quality of 2J and RB cylinder blocks using various tools and the 2J surpassed the RB in every test.
The VR8 is dangerous bro...2j good but the Gtr motor.....next level
The first 2j to crack 1000whp without nitrous was in 07. The last production year for the 2j and 16 years after production start. The b58 cracked 1000 whp in 2019 just 4 years after production started. There’s ppl running 1000whp unopened motor. Yes technology is more advanced now but it cracked that mark in a quarter of the time. Give the b58 just 5 more years and see what it’s going to become. Not saying it’s better or not btw.
Fire vid & intro my brother!
33:50 Save the Manuals.. Tell it like it is though... For some one like me who's older is wild that people can't drive manuals anymore.. We had to use manuals to be fast back in the day.. The new auto's got people thinking they can drive it's crazy how spoiled people are with the new DCT's.. And to each his own I get it the DCT's are faster and people drive what they grow up with, but don't front like a race car driver and not be able to use a 3rd pedal that's all.. It's crazy when I take my car to certain shops for dumb stuff only certain PPL can work on it or wash it because they are the only ones there that can drive a manual.. I took my car to a car wash and none of these younger guys could move the car it was wild.. Dudes were in their 30's and couldn't move a car around... It's something everyone should know how to do, like swimming or changing a tire..
There are engines out there that just didn't get the same amount of development that are potentially better that the 2jz. The Atlas 6cyl, bara etc.
Bro!! That Intro!! Is 🔥
B58 all day!
Would love to see Vic call out Danrue!! Lets go!!
You can't beat the block on a 2jz , absolutely strong , just put stronger head studs and up the boost , tremendous power .
Yeah it's funny to think all the aussies are trying to take that title from the 2jz and put rb on top 😂
lol rb will be on top
@@mitchelltownes6251 oh yesssss I'm loving it because prp and crd have put the rb on kill and it's nuts all the parts they have
Th amount of work that goes in the rb to actually beat the supra .... say less 😌 👌
@@schepprenogovender5495 not really cos look what u need to do to a 2jz to make 2500hp billet head rods and pistons rb is cast sorry but the rb is a better platform
Get James taal!!!!
WHAT WOULD IT RUN ON THE NORDSLYFER ? the tom's castrol supra it dont run a 2jz it runs a 3S-GTS that won a WRC in a celica and A JCGT there in a supra.
I love when Vic starts talking 7 sec on street
I love the B58 but I cant deny that an Iron Block 2J is definitely more bulletproof
Come on RB all day 🇦🇺👍
I feel old. I had a RB30 powered streeter running 9.30s in 2001.
This is the first 'podcast' ive ever actually watched the whole way, Vic is a quality guy and could listen to him all day.
Ayo Vic, sell me a 10.5 index ticket my boy 🙏🏽
The Supra was already becoming extremely popular Globally.. fast and the furious made it popular in America! Don’t get it twisted
TBH the 2jz be the smoothest one for combustion out of any motor at any rpm the firing be perfect balance in a 2JZ, if you don't want bent rods like in V cylinder motors for they aren't balanced when firing motor goes side to side, Subaru motors be the worst design too me, 4 cylinder Honda etc their not balanced also, out of any straight line motor tho and any other 2JZ takes the Win in every category, lasting, reliable, low rpm torque around 3k RPM, most boost for stock internals 2jz takes the win everytime, I've seen majority of supra with 2jz's with over 30 psi of boost on a stock internal 2JZ, and that should just speak for itself, I doubt a hellcat or demon or even b58 can handle that psi with stock everything inside the motor, just added turbos intercooler tune ecu bigger injectors etc with motor never opened up, 2JZ for the W!!!
Omg island drag way by the time I started gojng there it was legit falling apart. Could almost see grass coming through the pavement on the track lol.
Guys, Vic is not joking. Everything is facts.
Old technology still works, and theres 1996 teksid 4.6 engines making well over 2000 whp, even tho the coyote is way more advanced, as is the s58/b58.
Did not know Vic was from Hempstead . Shout out to Long Island 💪
People forget we had the gtech’s back in the early 00’s. The original dragys lol