AnkerMake M5C Review - This is our PRINTING FUTURE!
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I'm not the only channel saying this in an AnkerMake M5C Review, but I'm glad to add my voice to the echo-chamber that the M5 series by Ankermake are the easiest FDM printers to use. and the M5C is no exception. This comes in at a new price point, aimed at entry-level printers, Whilst it's still not "cheap" it's more than worth it for the time you'll save on your journey to bigger units.
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not sure if youve seen, but ankermake in the beta slicer has a "precision mode" you can find it by selecting the M5C printer and make sure you have PLA+ Basic filament selected, from there where you would normally select the fast mode, you can select precision mode and if you use a 0.2mm nozzle you can get as small as 0.05mm layer height!
Ohhhhh! I did not know that! very useful tip
Thanks for this video. It’s helped me make my printer choice, and I’ve ordered one.
Extremely nice printer! Can’t wait for the V6 AMS.
MY X1C with AMS is nice but there is something about this one that makes me keep it around to.
Clean and you can see it! Great for teaching my daughter!
The M5 is really good. I’ve printed about 50 different kinds of swords on it.
Great video, I really liked the proposal for this printer.
Good review, i want to begin 3d printing for miniature terrain and i love your video, they are very helpfull before i do my first purchase
Thanks, Glad I could help!
Companies trying to lock you into the ecosystem is an absolute anti-consumer nightmare in literally any situation.
I was considering to get the M5 but I see Anker is trying to go the proprietary apps approach.
Thanks for the video Faux, although it was more of a warning than a pros one for me.
Itvnit locked. You can still use any slcver and use the printer. But whenbyiu use their slicer, whixhbis basically just reskinned and refined cura, they are huge benefits to the ease of getting prints done well
Thanks for the kudos, it's greatly appreciated
I was thinking exactly the same thing. You have to make an account, first red flag. This is in order to use the device. What happens if 5 years from now Anker decides to put out a "subscription" service in order to use the printer ?
Without a screen, your are basically left just looking at a dead printer.
Nothing really locked about it. If you don't want to use the app, you don't have to, it's just a bit less user friendly. But if you put gcode on a USB drive and stick it in the printer and hit play, it prints whatever the most recent STL on the drive is, no internet or app required. That said, the fact their App is so good is kind of the point of this printer...
@@Drd4allNah, the API was reverse engineered ages ago at this point. Can wirelessly print to both AnkerMake machines locally and without much fuss really.
I sold my soul to apple decades ago and haven’t looked back. 🥳
great review ross
I love my M5, and have done many complex projects with it. It’s pretty much been in use constantly since I got it last year
I appreciate you being a fan of AnkerMake! I have the M5 and I'm currently grounded because it says I need new roller wheels and they are currently sold out. I decided to take this opportunity to purchase the M5C. Been looking at it and debating and decided I really like how these are put together and really want to compare the two. It should arrive tonight and I'm super excited! I hate when people hate on these printers. There really is no need for all the hate. 🥰
Have you looked at the wheels and actually see that they’re in need of replacement! It automatically warns you to replace them based on time-it doesn’t gauge actual wear. If you inspect them and see theyre ok and just require adjustments or cleaning, clear the notification and just more on .
There is precedent for denigrating the well designed UI. Recall the rants of the Unix lovers and their pride at their mastery of three letter commands when Mac (and even Windows) users began to use computers that did not require blood, sweat and tears to use, much less master. Using a GUI carried much of the stigma of drinking Bud Light today. And for far less reason.
The fundamental issue is that the 'old hands' invested huge amounts of time and often money learning how to make barely functional devices work, I know I did. But the noobs of today need not suffer the same trials that the old salts did in order to get much better prints.
There is a well understood sense of injustice among the battle scarred veterans against those who paid fair less in money and blood than they did, and fail to appreciate the struggles they went through to produce mediocre results.
Kids today! Same as they ever were. For me, I am back in the market again more than a decade after my first printer gave up the ghost.
Wow, this is exactly the analogy i was looking for when I was responding to an earlier comment. You put it so perfectly.
Reminds me of my Snapmaker 2 design wise. I use mine mainly for the laser engraver and CNC router mode, but it's a very solid FDM printer as well from my experience. Print quality is comparable to a Prusa FDM printer, it's just a little bit slower due to being a lead screw driven machine but that's not too big of a deal, there's a certain robustness that it has because of it. It's a great little 3 in 1 machine and a fantastic compliment to my Anycubic M5s and Mono 2.
Are you saying that Snapmaker is similar in ease of use as this one? I can get Snapmaker but not sure if it is easy to use. Thanks
Love this, thanks Ross
This world of 3D printers is fascinating there are so many of them that really it boils down to what's your budget, are you patient enough to save that money and what exactly do you want to make on them. Happy 3D printing folks.
I dropped out of the hobby when I got tired of my Elegoo Mars and the troubles with brittle resin and the unholy mess of the material. This is the sort of product that makes me want to get back into the swing of things, but with FDM this time around. I've been waiting for high detail since I mostly design toys and minis, so maybe I have a generation or two to wait, still, but this really does look good. Thank you for the video!
Resin printers are infinitely better for minis than FDM. just don't use the Elegoo Mars and go for more flexible resin mixes
He seems to have forgotten about advanced settings and precision mode…
Nice one, fella. I'm not in the market for FDM, but my FIL recently bought an Anycubic Kobra so he might be interested in this. By the way, off topic but I picked up a couple of bottles of Wargamer for my M5s so we'll see how that gets on with the ACF before I switch to PFA. My mate just printed some stuff with Wargamer on his new GKtwo and it looks absolutely incredible. Totally smooth as far as I can see in the photos.
Tha is mate and thanks for your support, it's off to a slow start in that resin, but the more people who use it. The more we hear people are wowed
So, how 'smooth' are the prints? I would love to see one if the moe sophistcated stls from Witchsong, for example, to dee how good this printer is and how 'smooth' the precise print can generate.
Thanks Ross. Just wondering what settings and what filament you used with the collapsing Master sword?
I’ve tried a few prints with Ankermake PLA+ but the blades all fuse together in my prints.
Just got this printer for Christmas, so far so nearly good, I've made a articulated dragon which has about 30 segments, all one print and fine, I've also done some regular sized dice, fine again. I've also had a couple of minor failures, which are likely down to my inexperience as I'm new to 3d printing.
Is there a way to reorientation designs within the ankermate app?
Just for clarity, the bed only loses 15mm/1.5cm on both the X and Y axis, sorry if this has been pointed out previously.
Thanks for reading and for all your advice.
Getting a fine layer height is really going to require a rather accurate Z-setup, wich is gonna require more torque/speed for things like a z hop. Also gonna need tuning on your extrusion, temperature, speed,...
Finer nozzle going to aid too.
And then you'll have people running fibers/petg/"foamy" silks
Rather understandable they didn't add that setting, it is rather niche like you said yourself and if it's their profile they gotta support it too
*shorter version: like running a car at 5 mph, it can but gonna depend alot on drivers skill
I think it's also worth mentioning that Ankermake can potentially take advantage of your user data.
I don't remember the exact details, but there's a recent video by a youtuber named 3D Musketeers where he goes over Ankermake's ToS and finds a part that claims that they can take data like the files you upload to the printer and use them at any time for any purpose.
That being said, I don't mean to dissuade anyone from purchasing the printer nor do I intend to imply that fauxhammer is engaging in foul play by not mentioning this, I just want people to be aware of this when they're thinking about which printer to buy.
Other than that, love the videos and keep up the good work. 👍
Yea i saw thah video, sadly it seems to be a drama piece, he neglects to go over all of the legal protections the privacy policy has as well including allowing you to send legal requests for anker to delete your data. Its also a bog standard privacy policy, im not saying its right im just saying its a much larger problem then just anker, for isntance youtube, and the printables website have similair policies.
I had no idea about this, but I'm someone who tends to just click accept on all TOS things without reading. Though I'm pretty sure if they suddenly started doing illicit things without the creators consent. This would be brand suicide!
@KevinLagan Sorry for the late response, but yeah I agree that other companies do this as well and not just Anker, but it's still a little disappointing to see this sort of thing starting to appear in the 3d printing hobby.
@@AluminiumRabbit its disappointing for sure, but with a printer that connects to the cloud its a bit understandable, i imagine the collection is to ensure that they can cover their butts legally if people are using their printers for not so good things. I know people dont like that but its the give and take you get with a connected printer like this
What a good video that was, further confirming that I should get one however, 15cm of difference? you mean 15mm or 1.5cm. Only pointing it out as it might be the deal breaker for any potential buyer of this model (like me) Thank you
i meant 15mm, ooops! Sorry
I have to say, and this is just my thought, that while this is an easier printer for a first time user, it isn't. Hear me out. While yes, it can be just as easy as described it also is a hinderance. 3D printing itself isn't at a point where it's just click and go. There are far too many variables that effect a print, ones that aren't controlled by the printer. Flament type, moisture, room temp, etc all play a part, and I feel printers like this lull someone into thinking that doesn't matter anymore, or a new maker not realizing this until hours of frustration have gone by. Hopefully they'll stick with it and learn more, but often the first time the first layer goes south it's all over. I think this has moved too much to a phone, hidden too muich with sylish platic and aluminum. Maybe it does lower the barrier a bit, but not enough (although it would help if the community itself wasn't such snobs when it comes to new folks.
Good review. It's nice you didn't spout the same talking points all other "reviews" have, and like nearly all reviews of the M5. I'll leave that alone though. Thanks for the insights.
I've never really been interested in FDMs. I guess my one use-case would be printing scenery quickly for games. My question is, how visible are the layer lines on the best setting on these AnkerMake printers? Will I see them when they're on the table? I'm unreasonably fussy about seeing layer lines.
FDM makes more sense for functional parts where you can use a variety of materials that you simply can't on other types of 3D printers. Nylons, polycarbonates, carbon fiber-infused, wood-infused, etc. It also makes sense for very large prints that would otherwise be impractical to do. For your use case, resin is the way to go.
Atleast on my Neptune 4 pro the lines are not bad. On the table at .2 its kinda visible. At the lowest setting you cant even see it at table distance. I think that's why he requested the ultra fine layer height for this. With paint though its fine. If your not painting the raw plastic looks worse than layer lines so it doesn't really matter.
experimental fuzzy setting
Well now I want one of these. Thanks. I'm going to have to decide between ease of use and build volume to keep it under $500. So how badly do I want that 320mm build plate...
Get the K1 Max
Does anyone know where I can get the cyber skull print file from the thumbnail?
At about 1:20 I think you meant to say 15 mm not 15 cm
Oooos
Same thing happens again at 7:13.
I've been wanting to get a second FDM printer and I've been kinda torn between an Ankermake and a Neptune 4 Pro
Just got my neptune 4 pro in and been using it for 2 days. I love it and so far its been really good. This does really peak my interest though.
Can anyone suggest good filaments to use with this or other printers if I want to do “miniatures”. The quotes are there because of course I know resin is better and I’m getting one of those two.
I like Sunlu's PLA+ as a general-purpose filament. Does the job, has never let me down and it's cheap enough. amzn.to/45aM231
As someone who's never owned a 3d printer, but really wants to start (and doesn't want the hassle of resin). Can I ask if this is the best option for me to print small miniature like prints on? Im aware im not going to get resin detail quality and wont be able to print details on something as small as say 4cm, but im looking for an easy to use filament printer (at a good price) that will print acceptable little miniatures. (until resin printing becomes something less that setting up your own meth lab) .
anything by Bambu Lab and use a 0.2mm nozzle for a start - I have a video coming out on this soon.
Oh great thanks. Will keep an eye out. Just saw the bamboo a1 that’s coming out - that seems pretty good
@@nickholl just ordered mine today. Hopefully I’ll get it soon so I can review it
@@FauxHammer I wont be needing the multi colour add-on so hopefully I wont have to wait long for them to sell it on its own
@@nickholl you can already get it without the add on shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2420414&u=3060349&m=138211&urllink=&afftrack=
idk man. Bambu lab p1p or p1s sounds like its a better value they are close. But like your getting all of this and can enclose it and like the parts are cheaper to buy and stuff. I like this printer. But im blown away with the P1S so far.
$200 difference is a lot of money, i think it more depends on the use case for the printer, if you dont need an enclosure i see no reason to get the p1s, also this is just really geared to people who have never done 3d printing
I'm not sure, it's $200 difference. i think this opens up Bambu's ease of use to a wider audience.
@FauxHammer im not sure id say bambu printers are particularly user friendly, corexy has a lot of maintenance that needs to be done after its been used a while and its really not user friendly in that way.
It's an intriguing machine, too bad the child-sized print volume disqualifies it and the regular version from my needs.
Hm, the Kobra 2 is still a good shout over this, cheaper, minimal setup, still fast... also not sure why you wouldn't get a P1P/S instead of an m5...
Build quality, aesthetics, easy setup, ease of use, a screen and interface that isn't so bad you "just use the phone app and pretend its not there", goes on sale for less than the price of a p1p at 559, multicolor option that promises to revolutionize multi color prints. Take your pick all, of those are the reason I went with an m5 over bambu. But understand that the narrative that the p1p has significantly better prints is simply not true. Many FDM printers can hit the quality of bambu but the m5 is the only one that rivals in speed.
hmmm.....i still think im going resin printer, when i can raise the funds, but i will very much consider this one here as a "next printer after", it looks like it would be very hand for printing props and such, and me being an idiot, it being easy to use right out the box is very appealing edit: lol, dont suppose you have any advice for selling off parts of a hobby collection? ive got a load of GW stuff, with a few things even going back to at least 2nd edition X_X
thanks a ton, I'm glad I conveyed the benefits here properly.
Anybody else notice how he keeps saying centimeters for millimeters.
Shhhh, I was hoping nobody would notice
Do I understand correctly that I have to buy a smartphone especially for this? But that would be the most expensive 3D printer for the hobby market.
I honestly don't even know how to respond to that. I'll assume sarcasm and just say Lol!
You prefer this over the X1C ? I'm rather shocked.
nope, I never said that. at the time of recording I didn't have an X1C
@@FauxHammer ahhh, that makes sense. I saw your 5 printers reviewed in 60 seconds, and saw the x1c there, and then TH-cam showed me this right after, so thought they were sequential. I was honestly looking into this printer after, cause I thought "if he likes it more than the x1c there has to be something amazing here", lol.
@@JohnSmith-rt5yq ah, makes sense! no, I'm using the X1C now, and I bloody love it!. Still like the M5 series, they are great for beginners, but the X1C is the oonly printer I ever want to use now.
I think you mean you're losing 15mm not cm 😅
shhhh, I don't think anyone will notice my mistake!
Right?
at least you can't go pouring resin all over this printer, lol
WHERE THERES A WILL THERES A WAY!
I’ve been 3d printing for a while but mine sucks so.
good bargain printer in 300$.. ankermake would be better to release this one first
Yeah its awesome. My review is live today
How about printers that don't need internet accounts to function...
That's all the others... I'm sensing a complaint here but don't really understand it.
I take offence! I like the Office '97 interface.
I do too actually. Much better than the damn ribbons
$399 but €499 in Europe...
Man, that sucks.
1:14 millimeters... Not Centimeters. That´s like less than the width of one finger
Shhhh, nobody noticed
It's extra 15 mm not cm.
Ooops
hi, will lose 15 mm not 15 cm
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For 400$ which is what it is actually gonna cost.. there are so many better options out there..
What are some good alternatives? I'm new to 3d printing and want to weigh my options
It depends what you want. if you want an easy to use, plug in and print. then I'd argue there is no better option that this.
But for this same amount of money. you can basically get a printer with a slightly larger bed.
unless you want to start changing things like the nozzle and upgrading the hot end of whatever printer you buy. Most people see to hate on this because it is more expensive for an equivalent sizzed printer. But you won't get this ease-of-use anywhere else at this price, far from it.
Personally, I'm yet to see any benefit in a different model that results in better print quality. because when it comes to FDM. you're gonna get models with lots of layer lines no matter what you do.
I know many pro printers out there who have used this and like me, still reach for these over their other printers because of that ease of use. you wanna tweak it further, you can. But out of the box. it's 3 buttons in the app and click print.
do you want to tinker around with a printer to get the best possible print quality out there. cool you can do that on other printers, and this.
do you just want to print cool stuff and not worry about all the crazy settings crap? get this.
Please advise what and why you feel it is better, I am interested in other people's thoughts.
Like any hobbyist pastime there is a snobbery that surrounds it and 3D Printing is certainty no exception, if fact can be very bad for it.
You have small but very vocal segment which insist that you if you haven't spent at least a hundred hours learning every single settings, dealing with failed print after failed print then you have no voice and your opinion is irrelevant.
Whilst Anker isn't for me I congratulate them on trying to make FDM as easy and a painless as possible for new comers
I agree with this statement 100% and its that vocal voice which talks down the innovation here so long as Anker continue to do what they do. I'm sure they will succeed because more people will become tired of fighting their machines whilst Anker makers just print cool stuff
If this is the future of 3d printing then I'm very, very concerned.
You are very concerned about 3D printers becoming easier to use and more accessible?
App and web client reliant proprietary garbage. I know you're sponsored but come on@@FauxHammer