@SheldonAdama17 Why should they change? You lot still haven't figured out they're doing this a few years ahead of the completed corporate takeover of the country. Hollywood, as is corporate media, is corporate power's propaganda and loss leader---the aim is to destroy the idea of brave men resisting a tyrannical state, and to destroy men and women as any sort of revolutionary cohort working in tandem to resist that state.
Me too, it drives me crazy. Blows my mind how people can be so willfully ignorant. I know people that legitimately think movies like love and thunder or Dr.strange are the greatest movies ever made.
A former boss of mine once said about business, "What we are experiencing now, is based on the decisions we made six months ago." It takes time for the repercussions to be felt and usually people don't realize it's not from what they are doing but what they did.
Considering Hollywood films are made around a year prior to their release, plus another year to see the what lasting legacy it has with the audience, they have to learn at least two years of what they did prior.
One movie that should be looked at for a Best Award is "Puss in-Boots: The Last Wish. True, I only went because of my grandchildren, but I found that the writing and direction was better than almost any of the alleged adult movie. Character development, a real story and a nuanced understand of the characters was above any of the woke movies I've seen this year, save Maverick.
Gary Kluka DreamWorks have reorganized themselves and the director for Puss N Boots Last Wish is Joel Crawlford and he did Croods 2 which I heard was amazing and was also a veteran storyboarder for good movies like Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2. So someone who earned his position and is producing good stuff. In short, Disney got sparked on the animation front.A humiliating prospect given they were founded on animation.
Genuinely great storytelling, writing, and pathos, even if the target demographic is for the kids. I also admired the small nods in the animation department taking a few lessons from Spider Man Into The SpiderVerse which was also genuinely great and deserved its Oscar.
If 'Rings of Power', 'Witcher', 'She Hulk', and 'Willow' had each been made in different years, they'd easily win hands down for those years. The only reason ANY of them have the slightest competition is each other. It would be funny if it weren't sad.
@@HerculesBallsInc I wish there will be an avengers style cross over where the princess from willow, guyladrial, the black lead from Witcher, Scarlett witch and she-hulk as the leader band together to defeat the forces of patriarchy and bigotry and rasacism
“We know, as fans… this is dead.” This is always what the cultural vandals consistently miss. They’ll point to the fact that MCU movies are still profitable, or that Disney parks are still packed, as evidence of vitality. But once you’ve damaged fan loyalty to the point the results are visible to the naked eye, it’s already far too late to course-correct.
I only half-agree with you there. disney is still pretty vital at this point in time, mainly because they control such a large portion of the entertainment industry that it's almost impossible for them to go broke. yes, they'll alienate the "superhero/comics" fans, but they still have their generic disney fans who don't really give a damn about the nuances and just want to see "pretty effects." Do I believe this will reach a head at some point once the lack of quality really sets in? yes, but it won't happen any time soon. we're talking close to another decade at least before they see an actual decline in profit, and that's ONLY if they aren't controlling 100% of entertainment by then.
There are still too many blind and obedient zealots that are happy to cling to them because they told them not supporting the evisceration of IPs is racism, sexism, etc. These things are still making enough of that profit to convince them they’re doing just fine attacking the devotees.
Not to mention their writers attacking fans with genuine concerns as trolls and racist sexist bigots. They underestimate how long people can hold grudges for. I still won't buy any Gillette products.
@@kri249 People aren't going to trust Big Pharma for another CENTURY, mark my words. People’s children’s children’s children will still be holding grudges.
1950s comedic icon, Lucille Ball, saw the importance and worth of Star Trek that she gave it priority at Desilu Studios. The studio she and Desi Arnez, Sr. built to film the I Love Lucy show. I always thought it odd that it was a Desilu production, but it seems Ball believed in the program. Now all these decades later, lesser industry women are tearing it all down, because they see no worth in anything. When the director of Waiting To Exhale read the script, the first thing he said was, "these women have no self esteem". Everbody can see that, but these new industry types are not the ones to try to elevate the esteem of anyone. They're too bitter and spite filled.
And that's exactly what these modern female characters feel like. That their faux bad arse exterior is just a cover for the writers own insecurities. It's painfully obvious to everyone but them.
@@kri249 Ah. They know. Better than anyone. That's why they try so hard. Problem is, they're not gracious about it. Rather, quite pathetic. They're see-through.
@@reek4062 you are truly ignorant if you believe that. Taking the absolute worst interpretation of the PJ films, the characters still followed the main events of the books, went to the locations the books said they did, and did the things the books said they did. The locations look like the books described them. The history given is the history Tolkien wrote. The Rings of Power, on the other hand, has characters going to places Tolkien outright says they never went to, did things they never did or ever would do, and in some cases existed in times Tolkien flat out said they didn’t. The locations don’t match their literary descriptions. The history given is utterly butchered with regard to Tolkien’s work, the existing timeline in truncated by about a millenium. Hobbits are literally not supposed to exist in the second age. The istari aren’t supposed to show up until the third age. Mithril does NOT work the way the show says it does. Galadriel was NEVER a military commander. The Three, the elven rings, were made last, not first. Sauron was not involved in the making of the Three. I could literally go on for an hour listing all of the show’s mistakes. If you honestly believe that the Rings of Power is more accurate than Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings adaptation, you know absolutely nothing of the lore. The only other option is that you’re a troll, but a rather lazy one.
Sitting around with our grandchildren reading the LOTR books and then watching the movies. That is a great way of looking at it, a classic has lasting power. Music, literature, even clothing, go through trends and fads. What lasts and is passed to the next generation is what is classic.
She-Hulk annoyed me the most I could see the potential for a genuinely good origin story as well as tying into the hulk stuff, but instead we got a goofy comedy that I’m pretty sure only appeals to the people who made it
Hell, even the comedy aspect could've been good if it was done with any level of competence, wit, and most importantly, *_without hatred for audience_* (think something along the lines of Ace Attorney). But that's just it. It was made with nothing, BUT *_a pure and utter hatred for the audience._*
I tried watching the show, but it became mostly background noise. The little spects that I did watch and paid attention to made me realize that they had a good foundation. However, the writers got off the tracks before they could even start the project. I feel like after Endgame, anything that was good about Marvel movies/ shows ended with that chapter.
Man .... Jackson's lord of the rings movies really will be timeless. 20 years from now, they will still be held up as a masterpiece. I, personally, put them on from time to time and it's still a quality experience.
@@kaminsod4077 while I'm not a fan of the Hobbit trilogy, I don't think they have any effect on the Lord of the rings. Same as this rings of power doesn't effect it. Hell, they can remake the whole trilogy and it will not tarnish the original one bit, for me. All these other movies and such are just elaborations on the world. You gotta take them with a grain of salt and enjoy the little bits of cool stuff in them.
Absolutely. Even technically speaking, they’re not dated at all, it just looks like it was shot with older cameras and that’s about it. Everything else looks like it could have been done last month. And by adhering to values that are timeless and placing this much emphasis to storytelling and quality, they will stand the test of time, as they do for the past 20+ years.
@@kaminsod4077 Actually the studio asked for them. Begged for them actually. You dont really think he "tarnished his legacy" by failing to produce another masterpiece... do you? How many masterpieces do you think an artist owes you?
My normie wife loves movies and has always seen every MCU movie in the theater, sometimes multiple times. Until this year. After the latest Thor movie she started waiting till they got to streaming. And she hasn’t bothered seeing anything in the last 60 days. If they lost her, they lost everyone.
It's going to get much worse before there's a chance for improvement. We're not at the bottom yet and there's no promise that we'll bounce back up once we reach it.
I have found that making my own entertainment is much more fun that watching stuff other people make. I made my first cartoon this year. It is horrible, but so much more fun to produce this yourself.
Top Gun: Maverick felt like the good ol' days of great patriotic, sunglasses-wearing and kick-ass times of great entertainment. It was one of the best movies we've ever seen that flew high in the skies amongst all the other garbage of Hollywood 2022.😎 We'll forever love Tom Cruise's gratefulness in wanting to entertaining us!❤️
Top Gun: Maverick which others have pointed out was just a re-hash of Star Wars: A New Hope with the whole Death Star trench run scene with Navy fighter jets instead of X-Wing fighters.
@@clit_niblr0375 The movie was more than that (the drama between an aging pilot and the son of his late partner, who he harmed professionally), but I see what you're saying. It was still amazing to see that action scene and all the shots they did for real, though.
Thanks to Hollywood nearly every IP has been thoroughly destroyed, hope it was worth it because I don’t see how they can turn things around Disney is especially screwed with Star Wars.
@@jackhhun2698 because they are having infinite amounts of money being funneled via government money laundering. The point is to spread the propaganda. They do not care about losing money, as long as they can brainwash the future generation and turn them against their parents and grand parents.
I dont wanna knock what every1 is saying but ive got kids. They dont understand woke or politics. I get the feeling their generation isnt impressed with films like gen x were. They got the web, tik tok, netflix. Hav u seen wednesday, just 100% looks like a movie. So if u can get a movie on yer tablet etc then whats the point in the cinemas??? Maybe hollywood has seen this and thinking we just turn out blandness and the bug people will eat it up...
Halo, Netflix Resident Evil, Witcher BO, Kenobi, Book of Boba Fett, Multiverse of Madness, Rings of Power, Willow, She-Hulk, and Uncharted were all this year. It's been a long 2022
Movie theaters should RE RELEASE our classics in theaters for a good bit of nostalgia. Don't remake them, re release. Let the younger gens see what we loved in the places we fell in love with them. It will help them see and understand.
@@gnosnaz Here in Germany the studio Studiocanal always show in selected cinemas (mostly cinema chains) every 1st Tuesday of the month, old classics for example on April they'll gonna show Terminator Judgement Day or this Tuesday they'll gonna show Rambo First Blood.
OMG, yes! Brilliant idea! I hope "The Prince of Egypt" comes to Fathom Events. I still remember watching it on the big screen and getting goosebumps from the Stephen Schwartz soundtrack.
Well said at the end. I like to watch reaction channels by young people watching movies like LOTR, Star Wars, Indiana Jones and all our other movies and loving them. It gives me hope that the "message" is failing.
@@reek4062 Agreed. One barely hears cultural references from that trilogy. Felt like a large rabid cult violently championed those films and persecuted critics into bending to their collective will. Bit like an older and more male version of _Harry Potter_ fandom.
Just as you said in your video on the Korean zombie series, if Hollywood will not deliver quality entertainment, others will try to seize their opportunity. The first ever Croatian 3D animated cartoon is being released in a weel and the trailer looks and sound really good!
When you say 'the korean zombie series' do you mean a series about mma fighter The Korean Zombie or a korean series about zombies? Or maybe a series about The Korean Zombie fighting zombies? Either way sounds pretty cool.
@@mykra9905 The closest thing to an English trailer I could find: th-cam.com/video/p-z15UGD-XY/w-d-xo.html Based on the legendary Aesop's tale of The Cricket and The Ant
@@campbellsoup93 😂😂😂😂😂 I didn't think there were that many candidates for a"Korean zombie series", but I guess I should have known better. I was referring to his review of All Of Us Are Dead
Kick-Ass (whilst technically not a superhero movie) is the epitome of what Metal Commander mentions at 9:20. It's the most basic story written, but it's well told and well executed.
I didn't see Top Gun Maverick but the one movie I really enjoyed was the Northman. Absolute bad ass film. And House of the Dragon is easily my favorite show of the year. Almost everything else (I am sure there is a few other things I have missed) was just absolute trash. Ended up seeing the Conan 40th anniversary release with my buds and it's amazing how that movie from 40 years ago looks lightyears better than most modern day stuff.
That movie was badass and holds up beautifully today. No CGI at all and it works perfectly. A strong male character with a good father role model no way in hell would Hollywood make that kind of movie today. It's all girl power and white man bad.
@@tuukkai1841 That movie is just raw masculinity and the ending is one of the most metal things ever. Definitely worth a watch. It's basically like Viking Conan.
My favorite fantasy series were never adapted, and I will not even type their names lest some bot harvest them for some Hollywood vampire trolling for ideas
@@SheldonAdama17 I’ll bet Tatyana is the protagonist, kicking Drinker’s ass in a fight and then later in the bedroom. Stunning and brave! (Brought to you by disney)
This period of time that we're in where everything's woke (edit: "woke" is an overused word, so instead I should say "a time where entertainment is openly political, specifically left-wing, constantly deconstructing or outright destroying traditional heros, trying to raise up women by putting down men instead of showing them as a team, constant race-swapping or putting an over-emphasis on race instead of character, and generally crapping on anyone with conservative or traditional belief systems) - and a time where TH-camrs like Drinker, Nerdrotic, Gundam, Az, Mauler and EFAP crew are becoming prominent - it's the best of times and it's the worst of times. It seems like the worst, but I hope that we will look back fondly on these times where we were fighting against the destruction of our favorite stories
it would help if more of the subscribers would follow in Disparu's footsteps and also create their own content channels or blogs we're louder the more vocal we are, not just in the comment section and chats but actually producing content
This year, there was not even one movie I wanted to see at the cinema. Heck, there was not one movie or series (perhaps I would concider Andor) I wanted to see. But I watch the heck out of your reviews! Thank you for watching all the shajt so we don’t have to!
You should watch Puss in Boots 2. It's legit a very good movie. I saw it 2 days ago and it was much better than I expected. It took itself seriously, was very original and had great storytelling and animation :)
Maverick was worth the watch if you enjoy cheesy 80-90s action movies. Which I honestly love even tho they're mostly the exact same thing with minor changes. Andor is easily my favorite show from the last 4 or 5 years.
Let's not overexaggerate hollywood downfall for now. They are still making money as people will still watch anything, no matter how bad it is. But at the same time, the most effective changes happen overtime, as Hollywood's foundation is slowly but surely being eroded. Movies are getting more expensive to make, Chinese audience is harder to reach. When the real hammer of collaspe fall, it would be further in the future, but like Thanos, it is inevitable. And by then it would be too late to react for the guys on top.
But Hollywood has ALWAYS made lots and lots of crap - its only the texture of the crap that has changed. We forget the all the really crap gangster movies the Godfather spawned, or terrible space operas Star Wars was responsible for. It only seems like all old movies are classics because the classics are the only ones we now see.
@@kenoliver8913 But we're talking about popular stuff here. She Hulk, Rings of Power, Disney Movies... This is the stuff that ought to be on its way to classic status, and yet...
Don't go watch them then - please. I haven't watched a Marvel movie in the theater in years, and they won't make a dime from me. It's time to just stop going. when you know a movie will suck, don't watch it just so you can explain why it sucks. Declare its suckness without even seeing it.
Maybe the MCU is doing the New Coke strategy where they make Phase 4 terrible, then everyone will be even more excited when Classic Coke returns in Phase 5.
Sometimes a good crash is needed, after those situations the only way is up. Unless we're talking about banking or housing, that's a downward spiral of doom
This feels like 60s/70s. There was so much crap that 80% of Hollywood studios bankrupted. Look at what movies came out that you never heard of. Musicals died in 60s while westerns and historical epics were almost dead. Now currently we got superhero and fantasy genre are dwindling away how much those genres became oversaturated by s**t. Now anime/manga market is booming with each year/season (maybe it's bad for us old school weebs but at least more and more people are no longer outcasting us as weirdos like while back when everybody was going "Oh look, a weeb!" Or even worst "Are you still a child if you are still watching those Japanese cartoons."- while some of them are more gory then live action film could and much more mercure then most Hollywood movies today. Now look who is weird now Hollywood).
I don't care how much money Avatar makes, Top Gun Maverick is the best blockbuster of 2022. Not a dig on Maverick either, but it's an oddly sad state in cinema when a sequel to a 36 year old movie ends up being the pinnacle. I think horror is the only genre that made out good this year.
@TERFang -YWNBAW Sure, in that it had fighter jets, pilots, and Tom Cruise, yep. What it also did that the first one did NOT was provide an actual plot with real stakes and character motivations. It's a sequel. Of course it's gonna have similarities and call backs. For instance the football scene actually had a point, unlike the volleyball scene which was just MTV style eye candy for the ladies.
I am just burned out on super hero stuff. I didnt bother to watch the last spiderman film or joker or batman. i know those three are pretty good but i will watch them down the road, right now i need a break. too much too fast. time to watch other genres.
13:37 So true. No one that wants to share movies with their kids is going to pick the slop that is on offer today over most of the movies that they grew up with.
You are correct, at least for me. I've bought about 150 movies from used book stores and going out of business video stores, so that I will have movies to show my kids when they get a little older. And streaming can't be trusted to keep them on their platforms (some movies have already disappeared), which is why I want the physical copies.
@@dmtaboo_truth7052 I agree completely. And digital makes that far easier than hard copies. Just look at what Lucas has done to the original cuts of Star Wars.
Funny thing about that is that the John Wick movies are pretty inclusive and progressive(having black, Asian, female, obese, deaf, and soon blind antagonists that were all badass in their own right), yet people dont notice it because it never takes precedent over the story. They were all just characters involved in the story rather than vehicles for a message.
Never watched She-Hulk but saw a recap of the ending. I literally thought, "Did they REALLY do that?" I didn't believe it and looked it up. Wow.....just wow.
We should not be idolising any of them in the first place! Give me a real hero like the late great Pele or Martin Luther King anyday...and of course, the greatest hero of them all, Jesus Christ!
Same! I subscribed to an overseas Asian streaming app and I’ve been watching it non stop. It’s incredible that I have to watch shows and movies from China and Korea for family values and non woke entertainment.
Me too. The Kdrama storytelling is superb. Just been watching Dali & Cocky Prince, a Rom-Com but business thriller and look at Art vs Commerce. Shift gears effortlessly between genres.
In the case of Quentin Taratino you have to remember he has always maintained he will make 10 films. Him making his television series is probably, even if he doesn't say it, a way to put off his last movie.
There was a time when every MCU film was an opening night must-see. Yes, some phase 1-3 were better than others, but there was excitement for each release. Now Marvel just makes products, not films. No one is going to see a midnight release for Shang-Chi or Eternals; that level of excitement is probably beyond Marvel at this point.
Can't wait when the "War of the Rohirrim" comes out in 2024 and it puts the ratings, comments, and viewership of the Rings of Power TV show to shame! You got Miranda Otto back as Eowyn to narrate the story, you have Brian Cox voicing the historic King Helm Hammerhand, they got Phillppa Boyens (one of the key Peter Jackson LOTR writers) brought on as a consultant for the movie, and no one is making this movie about "diversity" or pleasing the "modern audience!" Let's take a memorable character and story arc from LOTR that hasn't been done yet and make it into a good movie!
yeah you're right about the stakes just getting too big, it becomes less personal and inter personal conflict is what drives story. I'd love to see an adaption of the Rivers of London series of books btw. Firstly you can recapture a bit of that Harry Potter magic as it is very British, but also at the junction between the old and the new, fill it with great British actors. Bit of magic, police procedural, a baddie and not about to blow up the whole universe for no reason other than 'im evil!'
Dune, Oppenheimer, mission impossible 7. Also Wes Anderson has a new movie. Hayao Miyazaki also has something coming out but it only has a Japan release date so far.
I've been so burned out on Hollywood for years now that between now and my grave, I have no plans to even ponder the possibility of going to a theater ever again. "He's dead, Jim."
The end was coming for a long time. The End Game killed off or got rid of Tony Stark and Steve Rogers. “Not a good plan.” Even if Downy was too expensive or even tired of the role, they should have tried really hard to find a replacement. Same with Captain America. Fans would take replacements if it was done properly. Look at Bond, how many have played that role?
No I'm fine with Endgame just being _The End_ of that generation of stories. If _Black Panther_ and _Thor L+T_ were better this wouldn't be an issue it'd just be new generations that build up a new villain and shake up actors and genre once in a while, like the _Star Trek_ shows or _007._ It doesn't have to be _Ironman 8_ all the time.
Saying that I've seen more movies in theaters this year than the last two years - like only three or four - is a depressing sign of how far Hollywood has fallen and how much the filmmaking scene has yet to recover in the most exceptional way possible.
I had some hitters this year that I enjoyed like The Batman, The Northman, Everything Everywhere All At Once, The Black Phone, Top Gun Maverick, The King's Man, Del Toro's Pinnochio, The Menu, Elvis, Werewolf by Night, Bullet Train, Nope, Fall, all of which don't have "The Message," I enjoyed House of the Dragon, Pretty Little Liars: Original Sin but 2022 is the year, which I think, where Marvel, Disney and Warner Bros died.
So I haven’t seen many Critical Drinker vids but when ppl say “THE MESSAGE” do they just mean anything with progressive themes or messages, because most or at least half of these movies do
It's crazy to me, that as Gary pointed out, films this year only made 7 billion combined, and Top Gun made about a fifth of that by itself. Think about that for a minute. One movie made nearly 1/5 of the entire year's revenue for the film industry.
You know that the MCU is F-ed up when long time comic book fans (e.g. Rob over ComicsExplained) are also getting burned out by the end of Phase 4. And it is sad, because they give the backbone of the fandom. They were the most enthusiastic at the beginning of the phase and now that they are also becoming disenchanted with the products Disney-Marvel presenting, it is a clear sign that things have gone tits up BIG TIME! Also, the last words of the Drinker in the clip was pure gold and it should be the eulogy of ALL bad movies and TV shows of 2022.
What's fascinating is they're ostensibly focusing on elevating women. There's Pern by McAffrey, Elfquest by Pini, Mercedes Lackey's entire canon, and countless other properties created and run by excellent female writers and creators the fans have waited generations to see brought to life. Instead, they're gender-swapping male properties. Rather puts the lie to their claim that women are important, dudnit? They just HATE MEN.
the craziest thing has to be that there was madea/mrs browns boys crossover movie that came out this year, and people arent talking about it because that is far from the worse piece of media to be released this year
@@thomasarnoldcoe6527 Idk, Cobra Kai has gone really cheesy/campy, teen drama.. and it's still full of wokeness. It's alright but it's been nothing but downhill since season 1.
2:01 It's really surprising at how bad things turn out to be from one failure to another. Things that shouldn't have happened in succession but happened anyway and we now have this mess. Like the stars aligned for this massive crash to happen.
Unpopular opinion: Marvel movies were _always_ mostly crap. Both in the individual movies themselves and many of the scenes in each individual movie, even the good ones. You're just noticing now because they're pumping content out with even less of a competency filter.
Sure it was a disappointing year for film if you only care about comic book movies. But if you bothered to expand your viewing, it was actually a pretty decent year: Top Gun: Maverick The Northman Batman Glass Onion Everything Everywhere All At Once The Menu Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent Black Phone Barbarian Hustle Banshees of Inisherin Emily the Criminal Avatar 2 Puss In Boots Sea Beast Lost City RRR Till The Fablemans Pinocchio (Guillermo Del Toro version) All Quiet on the Western Front
Worst title for a movie I think I've ever seen, especially for what's supposed to be an A-list blockbuster. "The Multiverse of Madness" ? Even Roger Corman would have rejected that one...
What's truly nuts is the statistic Gary cites actually leaves out the fact that 2000 and 2001 released *fewer* movies than this year yet they made more (much more on gross with inflation) releasing less. If it wasn't for Maverick and Avatar just doing great business - and awesome for them, not taking away from them in the slightest - this year would have been a historical failure for MMS. With Avatar and Maverick, they at least pulled close and were able to play games with 'average gross per release' and other bookeeping shell games, and cover up the damage a little.
Although we've been in a dire recession, I've actually managed to save quite a few dollars in 2022 - by not going to see, or spending money, on woke films. I do feel a bit sorry for the cinema companies, because they can only show what Hollywood is pushing out of it's colon.
I fell asleep several times during blood origin, thought I missed how that dude got out of his prison cell. Thanks for letting me know he just apeared out. Then Lenny explains in detail how he built the prison to take magic away. How did he get out? Those writers couldn`t use a pen to get out of a wet paper bag. Has there been any good fantasy TV lately? Hated wheel of time, didn`t give willow or rings of power a chance. Sounds like I dodged a bullet. As for the MCU I used to enjoy a super hero movie, but sadly not for a number of years.
This is the first time in over a decade I only went to the theater once in a calendar year. Maverick was the only movie that even remotely appeared to be worth the trip to the cinema. It's just been an absolutely miserable year for film.
Hollywood has been dying for years and a lot of it is down to focusing on big trailer baiting action sequences and CGI over reliance as opposed a cohesive story line in my opinion. A couple of years ago on the Kinda Funny podcast Gary Whitta (wrote Rogue One film etc) gave a real inside baseball story process of Hollywood which stuck with me as it explains (for me) the whole reason Hollywood is in such a mess today... It was for a new Robert Downey Jr Sherlock Holmes movie sequel (assume it never got made)... Gary along with about 20 hired writers was given a week, all crammed in a room to come up a stack of cool story ideas and action sequences for the movie... Then at end of the week Robert Downey Jr came in ... sat on the desk at the front and said... "OK what have ya got"... He then listened to all the ideas and action sequences and then chose the ones he liked and then they roughly storyboarded all those chosen ideas for the movie. Then this initial "story" would be passed to another writing team who would take all these ideas and time line of action sequences and try to make a "cohesive" story out of it. No wonder why so much of Hollywood is manufactured forgettable pap with no heart or soul (The Disney Star Wars makes a lot more sense why it was such a mess). I personally miss the days when films were based on books, where stories that someone spent years constructing and world building, rather than just looking for something that would look visually cool as opposed to make actual sense.
Oh no my dear Drinker, you're wrong, these shows and movies will be talked in books, but not in cinema or art books, they will be talked in management books, just like the ones we are reading on Blockbuster.
This conversation reminds me of how useless Pauline Kael was as a critic. Kael hated almost all the films today which are considered as masterpieces. The market , and time, decides what is good or bad regardless of how right critics or film makers believe they are. The Critical Drinker insight on this is very valuable.
TBH, the bane for creativities in general is: a lack of business sense, a lack of understanding on how social media works and a lack of understanding of what they get themselves into when they join a political side. This woke thing did not come out of the blue and I saw this happening on deviantart and thumblr years and years before Hollywood started to copy their ideas. The idea of wanting some new woke idea put there in Hollywood was something I noticed even in the 90's, but it wasn't called "woke" yet, but the basis of that idea was already there. As far as I remember, the whole move back then was more as a counter culture against the satanic scare but now it has mutated into this when it evolved into woke after years and years of random people gaining a platform and started to scream all the same time. I think the whole woke idea in Hollywood had already started in 2008 and only now do we see the pain. This was a plan years and years in the making, a mad dash to please the 10-20% of the US population in some dire hope to spread the message. First they started to please everyone and now they only wanna crater to that 10-20% of the US. The sad thing also is that the elites now have decided that all of the old works need to be ripped away to make way for the new. Those 10-20% of the population are loyal idiots and what a ruling power wants above everything else is loyalty, not creative force. Because what can be created can also cause rebellion. These moves made by Hollywood were never for the sake of entertainment, it was for the sake of the message and they were willing to destroy themselves and their very company when attempting to convent us. Not that the right wing was anything better mind you... So given that this all started in 2008, it took them 14 years to bring themselves into ruin and I fear that it might take them 20 long years before they finally recover and start producing entertainment again and by then, those companies might get sold to other companies. However, what is needed right now is way more different companies that are gonna bring something new to rival hollywood. Seeing the progress the Indie comic book industry is making is making me hopeful that things will change in the late future. But it is gonna take years before that happens. In the meantime, if you have the money and you like those indie comics, support them.
Talking about Charlie Cox trying to salvage Daredevil reminded me of Henry Cavill and the Witcher. Henry fought a lot harder to try and have creative control of his character but eventually he knew that he had to walk away before the writers destroyed it.
Difficult to believe that 1992's box office was so bad with movies releases like: Batman Returns, Basic Instinct, Reservoir Dogs, My Cousin Vinny, The Bodyguard, Unforgiven, A Few Good Men, Alladin, Sister Act, Army of Darkness. I guess Army of Darkness was a cult movie but the others should have drawn huge box office numbers.
Jaws in 1975.. The Shark was rubber but the story and the character's were outstanding. It was the first Blockbuster. Now in 2022 the shark looks great but the characters are rubber.
“Maybe you shouldn’t alienate your few remaining supporters.”
Hollywood: Nah it’ll be fine!
I’m reading this in the drinkers voice lol
@SheldonAdama17 Why should they change? You lot still haven't figured out they're doing this a few years ahead of the completed corporate takeover of the country. Hollywood, as is corporate media, is corporate power's propaganda and loss leader---the aim is to destroy the idea of brave men resisting a tyrannical state, and to destroy men and women as any sort of revolutionary cohort working in tandem to resist that state.
Hollywood 'we'll make money from the woke agenda it'll be super easy, barely a inconvenience.'
@@TempleofSolomon As you should
It is fine, because you people don’t watch films.
You just cry about them.
Marvel went from the most popular and lucrative franchise to financially failing laughing stock in just a couple years. Impressive
Almost like some purple clown with a Michael Jackson spangly glove snapped his fingers and it was so. 🤭
Star trek/ starwars:"first time?"
I feel so happy to have finished it with Endgame. I thought it was time to stop and damn seems I was right
I wouldn’t say laughing stock but there was a struggle.
Almost as fast as Netflix annihilated the Witcher franchise
The biggest tragedy is that I know people in real life that genuinely enjoy stuff like She Hulk and Love and Thunder
Darwinism exists for a reason...
Wait what
You should dump those people out of your life since they intentionally make horrible decisions.
and Wakanda Forever the fact that it is the number 2 movie of the year is sad and just reinforces more of this kind of stuff.
Me too, it drives me crazy. Blows my mind how people can be so willfully ignorant. I know people that legitimately think movies like love and thunder or Dr.strange are the greatest movies ever made.
A former boss of mine once said about business, "What we are experiencing now, is based on the decisions we made six months ago." It takes time for the repercussions to be felt and usually people don't realize it's not from what they are doing but what they did.
Oh, so Hollywood made good decisions then?
Great insight that goes beyond the realm of business.
Considering Hollywood films are made around a year prior to their release, plus another year to see the what lasting legacy it has with the audience, they have to learn at least two years of what they did prior.
It's been more than six months, fire Kathleen Kennedy.
but it started with ghostbuster in 2016 and it's still going on. You would think it's about making money but no, It's the culture war in full force
One movie that should be looked at for a Best Award is "Puss in-Boots: The Last Wish. True, I only went because of my grandchildren, but I found that the writing and direction was better than almost any of the alleged adult movie. Character development, a real story and a nuanced understand of the characters was above any of the woke movies I've seen this year, save Maverick.
Gary Kluka DreamWorks have reorganized themselves and the director for Puss N Boots Last Wish is Joel Crawlford and he did Croods 2 which I heard was amazing and was also a veteran storyboarder for good movies like Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2. So someone who earned his position and is producing good stuff. In short, Disney got sparked on the animation front.A humiliating prospect given they were founded on animation.
If I ever have time, Im going to watch that. Good new stuff is hard to come by.
wait, puss in boots isnt woke diahrreah?
HOLY MOLY ill watch it then!
I have only heard really good things about it. Didnt expect that at all. Looks like im gonna have to talk my son into watching it lol
Genuinely great storytelling, writing, and pathos, even if the target demographic is for the kids. I also admired the small nods in the animation department taking a few lessons from Spider Man Into The SpiderVerse which was also genuinely great and deserved its Oscar.
I love how She Hulk couldn't even succeed at being the biggest failure of '22.
_Witcher_ and _Willow_ the last two Alderaanian pilots racing through that closing door to be the worst, lol
If 'Rings of Power', 'Witcher', 'She Hulk', and 'Willow' had each been made in different years, they'd easily win hands down for those years. The only reason ANY of them have the slightest competition is each other. It would be funny if it weren't sad.
@@HerculesBallsInc I wish there will be an avengers style cross over where the princess from willow, guyladrial, the black lead from Witcher, Scarlett witch and she-hulk as the leader band together to defeat the forces of patriarchy and bigotry and rasacism
@@IncredibleMet Lol! Those levels of concentrated cringe might break the multiverse.
@@HerculesBallsInc that’s what I’m hoping for. The great reset.
“We know, as fans… this is dead.”
This is always what the cultural vandals consistently miss. They’ll point to the fact that MCU movies are still profitable, or that Disney parks are still packed, as evidence of vitality. But once you’ve damaged fan loyalty to the point the results are visible to the naked eye, it’s already far too late to course-correct.
I only half-agree with you there. disney is still pretty vital at this point in time, mainly because they control such a large portion of the entertainment industry that it's almost impossible for them to go broke. yes, they'll alienate the "superhero/comics" fans, but they still have their generic disney fans who don't really give a damn about the nuances and just want to see "pretty effects." Do I believe this will reach a head at some point once the lack of quality really sets in? yes, but it won't happen any time soon. we're talking close to another decade at least before they see an actual decline in profit, and that's ONLY if they aren't controlling 100% of entertainment by then.
There are still too many blind and obedient zealots that are happy to cling to them because they told them not supporting the evisceration of IPs is racism, sexism, etc.
These things are still making enough of that profit to convince them they’re doing just fine attacking the devotees.
Hello, Good to see you here Brother.
Not to mention their writers attacking fans with genuine concerns as trolls and racist sexist bigots. They underestimate how long people can hold grudges for.
I still won't buy any Gillette products.
@@kri249 People aren't going to trust Big Pharma for another CENTURY, mark my words. People’s children’s children’s children will still be holding grudges.
1950s comedic icon, Lucille Ball, saw the importance and worth of Star Trek that she gave it priority at Desilu Studios. The studio she and Desi Arnez, Sr. built to film the I Love Lucy show. I always thought it odd that it was a Desilu production, but it seems Ball believed in the program.
Now all these decades later, lesser industry women are tearing it all down, because they see no worth in anything. When the director of Waiting To Exhale read the script, the first thing he said was, "these women have no self esteem".
Everbody can see that, but these new industry types are not the ones to try to elevate the esteem of anyone. They're too bitter and spite filled.
Actually with the original tone of the show that Lucille Ball connection makes a lot of sense.
Man, imagine a property having a sense of heritage.
Unexpected trivia is always a treat
Lucille Ball did more for Sci Fi than Jar Jar Abrams and that whole lot.
And that's exactly what these modern female characters feel like. That their faux bad arse exterior is just a cover for the writers own insecurities.
It's painfully obvious to everyone but them.
@@kri249 Ah. They know. Better than anyone. That's why they try so hard. Problem is, they're not gracious about it. Rather, quite pathetic. They're see-through.
It's ironic, Rings of Power was made "based" (very loosely) on the footnotes and ultimately will be nothing but a footnote in the annals of history
RoP is more faithful than the PJ movies, though that says little
Edit: I love how easy it is to trigger fake fans
@@reek4062 you are truly ignorant if you believe that.
Taking the absolute worst interpretation of the PJ films, the characters still followed the main events of the books, went to the locations the books said they did, and did the things the books said they did. The locations look like the books described them. The history given is the history Tolkien wrote.
The Rings of Power, on the other hand, has characters going to places Tolkien outright says they never went to, did things they never did or ever would do, and in some cases existed in times Tolkien flat out said they didn’t. The locations don’t match their literary descriptions. The history given is utterly butchered with regard to Tolkien’s work, the existing timeline in truncated by about a millenium. Hobbits are literally not supposed to exist in the second age. The istari aren’t supposed to show up until the third age. Mithril does NOT work the way the show says it does. Galadriel was NEVER a military commander. The Three, the elven rings, were made last, not first. Sauron was not involved in the making of the Three. I could literally go on for an hour listing all of the show’s mistakes.
If you honestly believe that the Rings of Power is more accurate than Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings adaptation, you know absolutely nothing of the lore. The only other option is that you’re a troll, but a rather lazy one.
I’ve already dismissed it from my own Tolkien mythos. It never happened
you have an extra n in annals.
@@John-fk2ky my god man he's dead already!!!
Sitting around with our grandchildren reading the LOTR books and then watching the movies. That is a great way of looking at it, a classic has lasting power. Music, literature, even clothing, go through trends and fads. What lasts and is passed to the next generation is what is classic.
I'm going to read my Bible from scratch next year, in the King James Version. There are great stories and timeless truths in its pages.
@@evertonporter7887 The Bible is about as classic as it gets, people have been reading it for centuries.
To be fair, kids just love having a story read to them in person; especially if you can make it fun with silliness, voice mimicry etc.
@@evertonporter7887 you have to watch the chosen.
The costumes are unmatched.
She-Hulk annoyed me the most
I could see the potential for a genuinely good origin story as well as tying into the hulk stuff, but instead we got a goofy comedy that I’m pretty sure only appeals to the people who made it
It wasn't a comedy. There was nothing funny about it.
it was just utter misandry
Hell, even the comedy aspect could've been good if it was done with any level of competence, wit, and most importantly, *_without hatred for audience_* (think something along the lines of Ace Attorney).
But that's just it. It was made with nothing, BUT *_a pure and utter hatred for the audience._*
I tried watching the show, but it became mostly background noise. The little spects that I did watch and paid attention to made me realize that they had a good foundation. However, the writers got off the tracks before they could even start the project.
I feel like after Endgame, anything that was good about Marvel movies/ shows ended with that chapter.
indeed a sexy comedy and no
Man .... Jackson's lord of the rings movies really will be timeless. 20 years from now, they will still be held up as a masterpiece. I, personally, put them on from time to time and it's still a quality experience.
20years from now they will be band for some poor reason
Just a shame he tarnished his legacy with those bullshit Hobbit movies that nobody asked for.
@@kaminsod4077 while I'm not a fan of the Hobbit trilogy, I don't think they have any effect on the Lord of the rings. Same as this rings of power doesn't effect it. Hell, they can remake the whole trilogy and it will not tarnish the original one bit, for me. All these other movies and such are just elaborations on the world. You gotta take them with a grain of salt and enjoy the little bits of cool stuff in them.
Absolutely. Even technically speaking, they’re not dated at all, it just looks like it was shot with older cameras and that’s about it. Everything else looks like it could have been done last month. And by adhering to values that are timeless and placing this much emphasis to storytelling and quality, they will stand the test of time, as they do for the past 20+ years.
@@kaminsod4077 Actually the studio asked for them. Begged for them actually.
You dont really think he "tarnished his legacy" by failing to produce another masterpiece... do you? How many masterpieces do you think an artist owes you?
My normie wife loves movies and has always seen every MCU movie in the theater, sometimes multiple times. Until this year. After the latest Thor movie she started waiting till they got to streaming. And she hasn’t bothered seeing anything in the last 60 days. If they lost her, they lost everyone.
Wife: Umm, explain "normie wife"
@@bleankdallas2924 lol right? I’m glad she doesn’t read my comments!
don’t let her vote for you. no mail in ballots
@@johnepavek
So thinks you. So thinks you.
We did until Covid and Endgame...I felt awful spending money on Black Widow.
What he said at the end is perfect.50 years from now we will still proudly show our grandchildren the Lotr trilogy but RoP will be forgotten.
Not so loud, lest they try to reboot the trilogy
2022 is the death of just about damn-near everything. And I just have this feeling that 2023 is going to be worse.
I would say I'm optimistic things are going to get better. But that's what I felt going into 2021 AND 2022...
2022 sure felt like the death of Britain.
It's going to get much worse before there's a chance for improvement. We're not at the bottom yet and there's no promise that we'll bounce back up once we reach it.
Some parts of pop culture will be alright.
I have found that making my own entertainment is much more fun that watching stuff other people make. I made my first cartoon this year. It is horrible, but so much more fun to produce this yourself.
Top Gun: Maverick felt like the good ol' days of great patriotic, sunglasses-wearing and kick-ass times of great entertainment. It was one of the best movies we've ever seen that flew high in the skies amongst all the other garbage of Hollywood 2022.😎
We'll forever love Tom Cruise's gratefulness in wanting to entertaining us!❤️
And we still have MI Dead Reckoning Part 1 to look forward to in 2023!😁
Top Gun: Maverick which others have pointed out was just a re-hash of Star Wars: A New Hope with the whole Death Star trench run scene with Navy fighter jets instead of X-Wing fighters.
@@clit_niblr0375 The movie was more than that (the drama between an aging pilot and the son of his late partner, who he harmed professionally), but I see what you're saying. It was still amazing to see that action scene and all the shots they did for real, though.
Dont forget bullet train
@@clit_niblr0375 TGM is the best Starr Wars film ever 😁😁😁
Instead of watching Wakanda Forever and Strange World on theaters, I went to go see Puss in Boots 2 instead. It's a really good movie.
Agreed! It's honestly amazing.
I've heard that as well
I hated the first Puss N Boots movie. But word of mouth has been good on this one, I'll probably rent it once it's available to stream...
Hmm, How much are DreamWorks paying you?
@@beingsshepherd Must be a good amount, considering Im planning on watching the movie now.
Thanks to Hollywood nearly every IP has been thoroughly destroyed, hope it was worth it because I don’t see how they can turn things around Disney is especially screwed with Star Wars.
Oh god its like how do you freaking Burn Money like that seriously?
@@jackhhun2698: I'm not saying modern not entertainment is a money laundering operation but Mr. Clean is now a Hollywood/Netflix is spokesman.
@@jackhhun2698 because they are having infinite amounts of money being funneled via government money laundering. The point is to spread the propaganda. They do not care about losing money, as long as they can brainwash the future generation and turn them against their parents and grand parents.
I have absolutely no idea how Kathleen Kennedy still has a job.🤷🏽♂️
I dont wanna knock what every1 is saying but ive got kids. They dont understand woke or politics. I get the feeling their generation isnt impressed with films like gen x were. They got the web, tik tok, netflix. Hav u seen wednesday, just 100% looks like a movie. So if u can get a movie on yer tablet etc then whats the point in the cinemas???
Maybe hollywood has seen this and thinking we just turn out blandness and the bug people will eat it up...
My gut tells me they (Hollywood, Marvel whatever) are not done. They're going to double down and do even worse next year.
There comes a point they get a Margin Call.
I can't wait for Hollywood to get a good, old American bailout when he movie studios declare bankruptcy.
Disney is hitting a point where they have to contemplate bankruptcy. They're doing that bad.
Great film by the way
If that happens we'll be here with the rest laughing our asses off.
2021: surely we've hit tv rock bottom.
2022: hold my beer
At least 2021 had Godzilla vs. Kong and Mortal Kombat. Those were quite fun and enjoyable. 2022 had Top Gun: Maverick and that's it.
2023: you've seen nothing yet!
Meanwhile anime is crushing it. I seriously can't keep up with the quality. New Bleach, Chainsaw Man, Spy Family, Demon Slayer....its crazy
People still think "hold my beer" jokes are funny?
@@RumourdProd you think this is a joke?
Halo, Netflix Resident Evil, Witcher BO, Kenobi, Book of Boba Fett, Multiverse of Madness, Rings of Power, Willow, She-Hulk, and Uncharted were all this year. It's been a long 2022
Kenobi was pretty decent
Wheel of Time too
Oh snap! Halo?
Didn’t know it existed!
Thor Love & Thunder
And Dr Who. Movie and series-wise this year has been a nightmare.
Movie theaters should RE RELEASE our classics in theaters for a good bit of nostalgia. Don't remake them, re release. Let the younger gens see what we loved in the places we fell in love with them. It will help them see and understand.
Imagine seeing The Godfather or Fight Club or T2 in theatres. I would pay my freaking money to watch those movies at cinema once again
My local theater does this!!! Biggest movie theater in the state, and they pack the house with movies like Back to the Future
@@gnosnaz Here in Germany the studio Studiocanal always show in selected cinemas (mostly cinema chains) every 1st Tuesday of the month, old classics for example on April they'll gonna show Terminator Judgement Day or this Tuesday they'll gonna show Rambo First Blood.
OMG, yes! Brilliant idea! I hope "The Prince of Egypt" comes to Fathom Events. I still remember watching it on the big screen and getting goosebumps from the Stephen Schwartz soundtrack.
Wrath of Khan was in theaters here for its anniversary. First time I've been to one since Endgame.
Well said at the end. I like to watch reaction channels by young people watching movies like LOTR, Star Wars, Indiana Jones and all our other movies and loving them. It gives me hope that the "message" is failing.
the LotR movies are overrated. The Star Wars OT and Indiana Jones trilogy are great.
@@reek4062 yeah, well that's like, your opinion man.
@@reek4062 OOOF that quite the spicy opinion matey!
@@reek4062 Agreed. One barely hears cultural references from that trilogy.
Felt like a large rabid cult violently championed those films and persecuted critics into bending to their collective will.
Bit like an older and more male version of _Harry Potter_ fandom.
@@beingsshepherd The sequel fandom is less rapid than the PJ fandom
Just as you said in your video on the Korean zombie series, if Hollywood will not deliver quality entertainment, others will try to seize their opportunity. The first ever Croatian 3D animated cartoon is being released in a weel and the trailer looks and sound really good!
What's the name of this? I'd like to check it out.
When you say 'the korean zombie series' do you mean a series about mma fighter The Korean Zombie or a korean series about zombies? Or maybe a series about The Korean Zombie fighting zombies? Either way sounds pretty cool.
@@mykra9905 The closest thing to an English trailer I could find: th-cam.com/video/p-z15UGD-XY/w-d-xo.html
Based on the legendary Aesop's tale of The Cricket and The Ant
@@campbellsoup93 😂😂😂😂😂 I didn't think there were that many candidates for a"Korean zombie series", but I guess I should have known better. I was referring to his review of All Of Us Are Dead
Kick-Ass (whilst technically not a superhero movie) is the epitome of what Metal Commander mentions at 9:20. It's the most basic story written, but it's well told and well executed.
Rings of Power is the Star Wars Christmas Special that someone will throw on when they want everybody at the party to leave their home
It’s also the new sleep supplement for helping with insomnia.
I didn't see Top Gun Maverick but the one movie I really enjoyed was the Northman. Absolute bad ass film. And House of the Dragon is easily my favorite show of the year. Almost everything else (I am sure there is a few other things I have missed) was just absolute trash. Ended up seeing the Conan 40th anniversary release with my buds and it's amazing how that movie from 40 years ago looks lightyears better than most modern day stuff.
See maverick in theaters before it’s too late
Northman was awesome. I’d recommend Maverick as a just fun experience to see, where Northman was more of an artistic expression of film.
That movie was badass and holds up beautifully today. No CGI at all and it works perfectly. A strong male character with a good father role model no way in hell would Hollywood make that kind of movie today. It's all girl power and white man bad.
Man, almost no one saw the Northman but it feels like the few that did all praise it
@@tuukkai1841 That movie is just raw masculinity and the ending is one of the most metal things ever. Definitely worth a watch. It's basically like Viking Conan.
2022 in review: sucks to be a fan of fantasy and will continue for the foreseeable future
HOTD is our only hope now
2022: The year fantasy adaptations died.
@@bezinskiii HOTD?
@@hcook1023 house of the dragon, the game of thrones prequel
My favorite fantasy series were never adapted, and I will not even type their names lest some bot harvest them for some Hollywood vampire trolling for ideas
Happy new year Drinker! I’ll have drink of whiskey for you man! Also looking forward to release of your film
There had better be a “cameo” from Tatyana or I’m not watching ;)
@@SheldonAdama17 I’ll bet Tatyana is the protagonist, kicking Drinker’s ass in a fight and then later in the bedroom. Stunning and brave! (Brought to you by disney)
This period of time that we're in where everything's woke (edit: "woke" is an overused word, so instead I should say "a time where entertainment is openly political, specifically left-wing, constantly deconstructing or outright destroying traditional heros, trying to raise up women by putting down men instead of showing them as a team, constant race-swapping or putting an over-emphasis on race instead of character, and generally crapping on anyone with conservative or traditional belief systems) - and a time where TH-camrs like Drinker, Nerdrotic, Gundam, Az, Mauler and EFAP crew are becoming prominent - it's the best of times and it's the worst of times.
It seems like the worst, but I hope that we will look back fondly on these times where we were fighting against the destruction of our favorite stories
ok incel
Efap are basically wokies at this point too.
@@mrscruffles801 I don't regularly watch them tbh, so I wouldn't know. I did enjoy a number of Mauler's solo vids tho
it would help if more of the subscribers would follow in Disparu's footsteps and also create their own content channels or blogs
we're louder the more vocal we are, not just in the comment section and chats but actually producing content
It truly is the blurst of times
This year, there was not even one movie I wanted to see at the cinema. Heck, there was not one movie or series (perhaps I would concider Andor) I wanted to see. But I watch the heck out of your reviews! Thank you for watching all the shajt so we don’t have to!
You should watch Puss in Boots 2. It's legit a very good movie. I saw it 2 days ago and it was much better than I expected. It took itself seriously, was very original and had great storytelling and animation :)
Maverick was worth the watch if you enjoy cheesy 80-90s action movies. Which I honestly love even tho they're mostly the exact same thing with minor changes.
Andor is easily my favorite show from the last 4 or 5 years.
I would recommend Everything, Everywhere, All at Once if you haven't seen it yet.
Let's not overexaggerate hollywood downfall for now. They are still making money as people will still watch anything, no matter how bad it is. But at the same time, the most effective changes happen overtime, as Hollywood's foundation is slowly but surely being eroded. Movies are getting more expensive to make, Chinese audience is harder to reach. When the real hammer of collaspe fall, it would be further in the future, but like Thanos, it is inevitable. And by then it would be too late to react for the guys on top.
But Hollywood has ALWAYS made lots and lots of crap - its only the texture of the crap that has changed. We forget the all the really crap gangster movies the Godfather spawned, or terrible space operas Star Wars was responsible for. It only seems like all old movies are classics because the classics are the only ones we now see.
@@kenoliver8913 But we're talking about popular stuff here. She Hulk, Rings of Power, Disney Movies... This is the stuff that ought to be on its way to classic status, and yet...
This is the year their woke agenda caught up with them and the audience finally said enough !
''weehhh woke'' - insecure people
Here’s hoping
Unfortunately since it takes so long to make them there's still more coming
@@reek4062 *smart people
@@reek4062 what would they need to be insecure about?
I think 2023 will be even worse for the MCU - Echo, the Marvels, Iron heart, she-loki. plenty more wokery left in them yet
What? Are you not excited for Echo?
*puts gun in mouth 😭
God I hate Iron Heart as a concept with every fiber of my being
It takes time for empires to crumble.
The Marvels is going to bomb so hard
Don't go watch them then - please. I haven't watched a Marvel movie in the theater in years, and they won't make a dime from me. It's time to just stop going. when you know a movie will suck, don't watch it just so you can explain why it sucks. Declare its suckness without even seeing it.
In a few years time we'll get a docuseries explaining how the MCU went from blockbuster to just bust, it will be called "From Iron Man to She Hulk".
13:43
Well said Drinker.
As a song in ARCANE once said,
"We set the tone for all to remember,
You rewrite history-the greatest pretenders."
Thats a good one
-A fellow Arcane fan
I rate that “go away now” a 9.7 out of ten. Nice way to finish the year. Happy New Years everyone!
Maybe the MCU is doing the New Coke strategy where they make Phase 4 terrible, then everyone will be even more excited when Classic Coke returns in Phase 5.
"The Year Hollywood Fell Apart"
And that's a good thing.
You know maybe if you didn't cherry pick and focus only on the bad movies then you' be surprised on the amount of good movies that came out this year.
@@fantasticfreddie5 Such as?
@@fantasticfreddie5 ok consoomer
Sometimes a good crash is needed, after those situations the only way is up. Unless we're talking about banking or housing, that's a downward spiral of doom
This feels like 60s/70s. There was so much crap that 80% of Hollywood studios bankrupted. Look at what movies came out that you never heard of. Musicals died in 60s while westerns and historical epics were almost dead. Now currently we got superhero and fantasy genre are dwindling away how much those genres became oversaturated by s**t. Now anime/manga market is booming with each year/season (maybe it's bad for us old school weebs but at least more and more people are no longer outcasting us as weirdos like while back when everybody was going "Oh look, a weeb!" Or even worst "Are you still a child if you are still watching those Japanese cartoons."- while some of them are more gory then live action film could and much more mercure then most Hollywood movies today. Now look who is weird now Hollywood).
Like Goblin Slayer. That one had the SJWs REEEEEEEEEEing!!
"maybe it's bad for us old school weebs" No shit. There are few things more painful than seeing so many dumb normie takes on Evangelion.
I don't care how much money Avatar makes, Top Gun Maverick is the best blockbuster of 2022. Not a dig on Maverick either, but it's an oddly sad state in cinema when a sequel to a 36 year old movie ends up being the pinnacle.
I think horror is the only genre that made out good this year.
“Horror is the only genre that made it out good this year?”
*Halloween Ends my dude*
@@cloudshines812 If that's the best example you can give, then horror did just fine.
Top gun Maverick just did the exact things the OG did which is why it was good but completely unoriginal
@TERFang -YWNBAW Sure, in that it had fighter jets, pilots, and Tom Cruise, yep. What it also did that the first one did NOT was provide an actual plot with real stakes and character motivations. It's a sequel. Of course it's gonna have similarities and call backs. For instance the football scene actually had a point, unlike the volleyball scene which was just MTV style eye candy for the ladies.
I’m at the point I’d happily never watch another new super hero movie. 1978 Superman was on TV today. My god it felt fresh seeing it again.
I am just burned out on super hero stuff. I didnt bother to watch the last spiderman film or joker or batman. i know those three are pretty good but i will watch them down the road, right now i need a break. too much too fast. time to watch other genres.
@@toof987 It's totally fine to just walk away from an entire genre, hobby, etc. if it means boycotting wokeness.
Don't be part of the problem.
13:37 So true. No one that wants to share movies with their kids is going to pick the slop that is on offer today over most of the movies that they grew up with.
You are correct, at least for me. I've bought about 150 movies from used book stores and going out of business video stores, so that I will have movies to show my kids when they get a little older. And streaming can't be trusted to keep them on their platforms (some movies have already disappeared), which is why I want the physical copies.
I don't think you understand how far activists will eventually go in terms of historical revisionism.
Banning old movies will be the new book burning.
@@dmtaboo_truth7052 I agree completely. And digital makes that far easier than hard copies. Just look at what Lucas has done to the original cuts of Star Wars.
@@danm5911 Been going on for a while already, like how they edited Trump's cameo out of Home Alone 2.
@@danm5911 "Amazon has removed all 80s action movies from its streaming service- and that's a good thing."
"Hmm..."
-Geralt of Rivia
🥇
Keeping my fingers crossed and hoping the John Wick new releases are relativity woke free.
Keanu tends to steer clear of nonsensical bullshit
@@blackfox1320 I'm not sure he has complete control over the message and the messengers.
Funny thing about that is that the John Wick movies are pretty inclusive and progressive(having black, Asian, female, obese, deaf, and soon blind antagonists that were all badass in their own right), yet people dont notice it because it never takes precedent over the story. They were all just characters involved in the story rather than vehicles for a message.
Keanu didn’t steer clear of Matrix 4. .I know many have already forgotten that one.
@@willfranklin1834 I actually didn't mind it....until Trinity went full Jesus mode
Never watched She-Hulk but saw a recap of the ending. I literally thought, "Did they REALLY do that?" I didn't believe it and looked it up. Wow.....just wow.
Good!! i also LOVE that these hollywood stars are not being idolized so much anymore!!
We should not be idolising any of them in the first place! Give me a real hero like the late great Pele or Martin Luther King anyday...and of course, the greatest hero of them all, Jesus Christ!
@@evertonporter7887 Indeed. "Thou shalt not worship false idols".
I've been binging on foreign made movies and TV shows, seems like places like South Korea know how to make quality dramas better than Hollywood can.
Same! I subscribed to an overseas Asian streaming app and I’ve been watching it non stop. It’s incredible that I have to watch shows and movies from China and Korea for family values and non woke entertainment.
Me too. The Kdrama storytelling is superb. Just been watching Dali & Cocky Prince, a Rom-Com but business thriller and look at Art vs Commerce. Shift gears effortlessly between genres.
In the case of Quentin Taratino you have to remember he has always maintained he will make 10 films. Him making his television series is probably, even if he doesn't say it, a way to put off his last movie.
There was a time when every MCU film was an opening night must-see. Yes, some phase 1-3 were better than others, but there was excitement for each release. Now Marvel just makes products, not films. No one is going to see a midnight release for Shang-Chi or Eternals; that level of excitement is probably beyond Marvel at this point.
Can't wait when the "War of the Rohirrim" comes out in 2024 and it puts the ratings, comments, and viewership of the Rings of Power TV show to shame!
You got Miranda Otto back as Eowyn to narrate the story, you have Brian Cox voicing the historic King Helm Hammerhand, they got Phillppa Boyens (one of the key Peter Jackson LOTR writers) brought on as a consultant for the movie, and no one is making this movie about "diversity" or pleasing the "modern audience!"
Let's take a memorable character and story arc from LOTR that hasn't been done yet and make it into a good movie!
yeah you're right about the stakes just getting too big, it becomes less personal and inter personal conflict is what drives story. I'd love to see an adaption of the Rivers of London series of books btw. Firstly you can recapture a bit of that Harry Potter magic as it is very British, but also at the junction between the old and the new, fill it with great British actors. Bit of magic, police procedural, a baddie and not about to blow up the whole universe for no reason other than 'im evil!'
With movies like M3gan and Cocaine Bear slated to come out in 2023, that should be a breath of relief
There's also Oppenheimer by Nolan too in 2023
Not to mention John Wick 4, spiderverse and Dune 2
Uh dude.... Cocaine Bear is being directed or written by Elizabeth Banks 🙄🤡
Dune, Oppenheimer, mission impossible 7. Also Wes Anderson has a new movie. Hayao Miyazaki also has something coming out but it only has a Japan release date so far.
Lol m3gan looks like the most basic horror trash. And banks spent all her good will years ago.
I've been so burned out on Hollywood for years now that between now and my grave, I have no plans to even ponder the possibility of going to a theater ever again. "He's dead, Jim."
Same. Last film I saw at the cinema was the awful _Matrix Reloaded;_ with a free ticket.
It’s seems like 2022 was the year Disney lost the trust of parents.
The fact it took this long is an insight into how so many children wind up abused right under their parents' noses.
The end was coming for a long time. The End Game killed off or got rid of Tony Stark and Steve Rogers. “Not a good plan.”
Even if Downy was too expensive or even tired of the role, they should have tried really hard to find a replacement. Same with Captain America. Fans would take replacements if it was done properly. Look at Bond, how many have played that role?
Or just end the MCU finally.
They should have switched over to the X-Men a/o the Fantastic Four universes and left the Avengers alone for a few years.
No I'm fine with Endgame just being _The End_ of that generation of stories. If _Black Panther_ and _Thor L+T_ were better this wouldn't be an issue it'd just be new generations that build up a new villain and shake up actors and genre once in a while, like the _Star Trek_ shows or _007._ It doesn't have to be _Ironman 8_ all the time.
I think they should use entirely new characters instead of recycling old ones
Nah, I'm glad the story ended for them in EG, before everything went down the toilet. The legacy of these characters is assured.
Saying that I've seen more movies in theaters this year than the last two years - like only three or four - is a depressing sign of how far Hollywood has fallen and how much the filmmaking scene has yet to recover in the most exceptional way possible.
I had some hitters this year that I enjoyed like The Batman, The Northman, Everything Everywhere All At Once, The Black Phone, Top Gun Maverick, The King's Man, Del Toro's Pinnochio, The Menu, Elvis, Werewolf by Night, Bullet Train, Nope, Fall, all of which don't have "The Message," I enjoyed House of the Dragon, Pretty Little Liars: Original Sin but 2022 is the year, which I think, where Marvel, Disney and Warner Bros died.
So I haven’t seen many Critical Drinker vids but when ppl say “THE MESSAGE” do they just mean anything with progressive themes or messages, because most or at least half of these movies do
@@AlabasterTen Yes.
The Menu, The Northman and Maverick where my favourite movies of the year! Brilliant films.
@@freaknr1 Definitely fantastic films. Also good choices.
Avatar: The Way of Water is also great.
It's crazy to me, that as Gary pointed out, films this year only made 7 billion combined, and Top Gun made about a fifth of that by itself.
Think about that for a minute. One movie made nearly 1/5 of the entire year's revenue for the film industry.
The 1st Avatar made more than 1/4th of 2009's entire box office revenue. It's nothing new tbh
@@iamyourfather4270 I know. It's just wild lol.
RDJ couldn't of gotten out of the MCU at a better time
".....not the media and not the studio." Damn right
You know that the MCU is F-ed up when long time comic book fans (e.g. Rob over ComicsExplained) are also getting burned out by the end of Phase 4. And it is sad, because they give the backbone of the fandom. They were the most enthusiastic at the beginning of the phase and now that they are also becoming disenchanted with the products Disney-Marvel presenting, it is a clear sign that things have gone tits up BIG TIME!
Also, the last words of the Drinker in the clip was pure gold and it should be the eulogy of ALL bad movies and TV shows of 2022.
For Marvel to not make a billion with Dr Strange 2, Thor 4 and Black Panther 2 , tells you everything you need to know about viewer apathy.
I have a 9 year old, 7 year old, and 5 year old sons. I look forward to the day years from now that I get to sit and watch LotR with them.
the LotR movies are overrated
@@reek4062 what fantasy epic do you recommend?
@@O4C209 Caligula (1979)
@@darthkai8242 Will you notify me when your daughter turns 12?
@@reek4062 TF?
Drinker just spitting straight facts
I would argue that Topgun was a superhero movie… just a more subtle one.
Top gun isn’t a superhero movie, it’s a Star Wars movie. A better Star Wars movie than anything Disney has come up with
Imagine a story of Luke Skywalker, training a new generation of Jedis and leading them into battle.
Tom Cruise needs his own Star Wars movie, centred around X-Squadron.
I did love the Pink Panther reference. Dreyfus made a great comic super villain.
What's fascinating is they're ostensibly focusing on elevating women. There's Pern by McAffrey, Elfquest by Pini, Mercedes Lackey's entire canon, and countless other properties created and run by excellent female writers and creators the fans have waited generations to see brought to life. Instead, they're gender-swapping male properties. Rather puts the lie to their claim that women are important, dudnit? They just HATE MEN.
See also, the so-called “M-She-U” killing and retiring every last so-called “empowered heroine” that isn’t a male character’s sidekick.
the craziest thing has to be that there was madea/mrs browns boys crossover movie that came out this year, and people arent talking about it because that is far from the worse piece of media to be released this year
Oh dear GOD don’t make a Taika Waititi Star Wars come to fruition, even if I won’t see it I’m still horrified
Rings of power gobsmacked me, but this will literally kill me.
This year has its moments. 1. Cobra Kai 2. Stranger Things 3. House of the Dragon.
Fair Play
Cobra Kai continues to be excellent
Stranger Things Season 4 came out of nowhere
House of the Dragon was great
It’s not all bad
@@thomasarnoldcoe6527 Idk, Cobra Kai has gone really cheesy/campy, teen drama.. and it's still full of wokeness.
It's alright but it's been nothing but downhill since season 1.
4. Andor
5. Sonic 2
6. Puss in Boots TLW
7. The Bad Guys
8. Turning Red
Ya know those movie budget numbers they say it was budgeted for 250 million but it looks like some of them drunk and high with a budget of tree fiddy.
2:01 It's really surprising at how bad things turn out to be from one failure to another. Things that shouldn't have happened in succession but happened anyway and we now have this mess. Like the stars aligned for this massive crash to happen.
Unpopular opinion: Marvel movies were _always_ mostly crap. Both in the individual movies themselves and many of the scenes in each individual movie, even the good ones.
You're just noticing now because they're pumping content out with even less of a competency filter.
Who cares aboot Marvel?
Bullet Train was phenomenal 🔥
Sure it was a disappointing year for film if you only care about comic book movies. But if you bothered to expand your viewing, it was actually a pretty decent year:
Top Gun: Maverick
The Northman
Batman
Glass Onion
Everything Everywhere All At Once
The Menu
Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent
Black Phone
Barbarian
Hustle
Banshees of Inisherin
Emily the Criminal
Avatar 2
Puss In Boots
Sea Beast
Lost City
RRR
Till
The Fablemans
Pinocchio (Guillermo Del Toro version)
All Quiet on the Western Front
This list is not as good as you think it is.
@@Darkenduk It's got Everything Everywhere All At Once. The list is good enough for me.
Men, Crimes of the future, Pearl..
Don’t forget about Sonic The Hedgehog 2
Tbh I myself as well as most people haven't even heard of most of the ones you listed and therein lies the problem with this era.
The last movie I paid to see in a theater was the 2nd Dr. Strange. Been saving my money ever since.
Worst title for a movie I think I've ever seen, especially for what's supposed to be an A-list blockbuster. "The Multiverse of Madness" ? Even Roger Corman would have rejected that one...
Well, I do have sympathy for cinemas and their workers.
And there’s the rub. The industry is letting all these people down
I can foresee a not-too-distant future where cinemas start going the way of Blockbuster Video stores.
It's sad to think about.
What's truly nuts is the statistic Gary cites actually leaves out the fact that 2000 and 2001 released *fewer* movies than this year yet they made more (much more on gross with inflation) releasing less. If it wasn't for Maverick and Avatar just doing great business - and awesome for them, not taking away from them in the slightest - this year would have been a historical failure for MMS. With Avatar and Maverick, they at least pulled close and were able to play games with 'average gross per release' and other bookeeping shell games, and cover up the damage a little.
Although we've been in a dire recession, I've actually managed to save quite a few dollars in 2022 - by not going to see, or spending money, on woke films. I do feel a bit sorry for the cinema companies, because they can only show what Hollywood is pushing out of it's colon.
"Woke"- a term used when people can't come up with actual critiques.
I now mentally hear the Drinker when I'm thinking about dumb stuff and how people seem to go "Nah, it'll be fine."
I fell asleep several times during blood origin, thought I missed how that dude got out of his prison cell. Thanks for letting me know he just apeared out. Then Lenny explains in detail how he built the prison to take magic away. How did he get out? Those writers couldn`t use a pen to get out of a wet paper bag. Has there been any good fantasy TV lately? Hated wheel of time, didn`t give willow or rings of power a chance. Sounds like I dodged a bullet. As for the MCU I used to enjoy a super hero movie, but sadly not for a number of years.
This is the first time in over a decade I only went to the theater once in a calendar year. Maverick was the only movie that even remotely appeared to be worth the trip to the cinema. It's just been an absolutely miserable year for film.
Hollywood has been dying for years and a lot of it is down to focusing on big trailer baiting action sequences and CGI over reliance as opposed a cohesive story line in my opinion.
A couple of years ago on the Kinda Funny podcast Gary Whitta (wrote Rogue One film etc) gave a real inside baseball story process of Hollywood which stuck with me as it explains (for me) the whole reason Hollywood is in such a mess today...
It was for a new Robert Downey Jr Sherlock Holmes movie sequel (assume it never got made)... Gary along with about 20 hired writers was given a week, all crammed in a room to come up a stack of cool story ideas and action sequences for the movie... Then at end of the week Robert Downey Jr came in ... sat on the desk at the front and said... "OK what have ya got"... He then listened to all the ideas and action sequences and then chose the ones he liked and then they roughly storyboarded all those chosen ideas for the movie. Then this initial "story" would be passed to another writing team who would take all these ideas and time line of action sequences and try to make a "cohesive" story out of it.
No wonder why so much of Hollywood is manufactured forgettable pap with no heart or soul (The Disney Star Wars makes a lot more sense why it was such a mess).
I personally miss the days when films were based on books, where stories that someone spent years constructing and world building, rather than just looking for something that would look visually cool as opposed to make actual sense.
Oh no my dear Drinker, you're wrong, these shows and movies will be talked in books, but not in cinema or art books, they will be talked in management books, just like the ones we are reading on Blockbuster.
30yr lowest BO results is very interesting
between 24-25 years. but close enough
Blackrock, Blackstone, Vanguard, and Statestreet are behind all this madness in Hollywood.
House of the dragon was the best thing to come out this year. Mostly because of how surprised I was with how good it actually was.
I’d completely given up on GOT. But HOTD was superb
This conversation reminds me of how useless Pauline Kael was as a critic. Kael hated almost all the films today which are considered as masterpieces. The market , and time, decides what is good or bad regardless of how right critics or film makers believe they are. The Critical Drinker insight on this is very valuable.
TBH, the bane for creativities in general is: a lack of business sense, a lack of understanding on how social media works and a lack of understanding of what they get themselves into when they join a political side.
This woke thing did not come out of the blue and I saw this happening on deviantart and thumblr years and years before Hollywood started to copy their ideas. The idea of wanting some new woke idea put there in Hollywood was something I noticed even in the 90's, but it wasn't called "woke" yet, but the basis of that idea was already there.
As far as I remember, the whole move back then was more as a counter culture against the satanic scare but now it has mutated into this when it evolved into woke after years and years of random people gaining a platform and started to scream all the same time.
I think the whole woke idea in Hollywood had already started in 2008 and only now do we see the pain. This was a plan years and years in the making, a mad dash to please the 10-20% of the US population in some dire hope to spread the message. First they started to please everyone and now they only wanna crater to that 10-20% of the US. The sad thing also is that the elites now have decided that all of the old works need to be ripped away to make way for the new. Those 10-20% of the population are loyal idiots and what a ruling power wants above everything else is loyalty, not creative force. Because what can be created can also cause rebellion. These moves made by Hollywood were never for the sake of entertainment, it was for the sake of the message and they were willing to destroy themselves and their very company when attempting to convent us. Not that the right wing was anything better mind you...
So given that this all started in 2008, it took them 14 years to bring themselves into ruin and I fear that it might take them 20 long years before they finally recover and start producing entertainment again and by then, those companies might get sold to other companies.
However, what is needed right now is way more different companies that are gonna bring something new to rival hollywood. Seeing the progress the Indie comic book industry is making is making me hopeful that things will change in the late future. But it is gonna take years before that happens. In the meantime, if you have the money and you like those indie comics, support them.
The funny thing about the She-Hulk ending is that it actually could have been done well since Inside Job did a similar ending with season 2.
"Comments are subjective."
-Bilbo Baggins
Talking about Charlie Cox trying to salvage Daredevil reminded me of Henry Cavill and the Witcher. Henry fought a lot harder to try and have creative control of his character but eventually he knew that he had to walk away before the writers destroyed it.
Difficult to believe that 1992's box office was so bad with movies releases like: Batman Returns, Basic Instinct, Reservoir Dogs, My Cousin Vinny, The Bodyguard, Unforgiven, A Few Good Men, Alladin, Sister Act, Army of Darkness. I guess Army of Darkness was a cult movie but the others should have drawn huge box office numbers.
I saw three of those films at the cinema.
Only thing memorable about Disney's Alladin were a couple of the songs.
To use the cooking analogy it's like Gordon Ramsey going "Finally some good fucking food!"
Jaws in 1975.. The Shark was rubber but the story and the character's were outstanding. It was the first Blockbuster. Now in 2022 the shark looks great but the characters are rubber.
Andor, Top Gun Maverick, and Bullet Train are my faves for 2022.
No more resets. The era of super heroes is worn out. It went longer than the Western and it needs to retire willingly or like Westerns, forcibly.
I think it’s safe to say Steven Spielberg wasn’t wrong.
My sister and her friend used to watch EVERY Marvel installment. They don't care anymore. So many fans feel the same.
Maybe they've just grown up.