Like most men, look what happens to most celebrities when they hit the top. Like Frank said in Scarface Chicas,flash, champagne,flash they don't last !
Junior was one of the best characters on the show. His weaknesses are what made him interesting, and much more based on the realities of human nature, than the glorified images we have of most gangsters.
2:25 is a testament to the writers and their use of words within the dialogue. I remember this episode and looked up what a Ghibelline was. Basically a member of the aristocracy in Northern Italy that supported the Holy Roman emperor (German) and contributed to the strife of the citizens in Northern Italy. It shows that Junior knows his history and used a term from that history to describe an outsider that the crew didn't initially respect.
It is actually the opposite in my opinion. He probably only picked the term Ghibelline up because someone else used it talking to him before. Remember the first season when he didn't even know who Augustus Ceasar (Octavian) was? He asks Tony, "is that the one they stabbed in the back?" Which clearly shows he has no idea about Roman history. If you don't know who Octavian is, which is a beginner history thing for anyone claiming to be of Italian heritage, i don't think you know your history at all.
@@alihandemiral7049 this is a different time period he said Holy Roman Empire. And has nothing to do with the Roman Empire. So Jr not knowing Roman history doesn’t mean he doesn’t know any other period of history after that
@@JL-rx7ou While it's true that actual historians do specialize in various fields and subfields, cultures and periods, Augustus and Julius Caesar are grade school history. Not evening having a surface-level understanding of either speaks toward a lack of interest in history in general.
Ask the common person in the street about either or and they won't be able to tell you more than Cesar got stabbed or think that Cesar was an emperor@@slizzysluzzer
Even Nicole Machiavelli wasn't Machiavellian. Junior reminds me of Nicolo, a failed public official who could write a book on power and strategies. Nicolo died in poverty and retired into obscurity, somewhat like we see Junior.
I didn't like how Junior was portrayed in Many Saints, because I think his insight to the game was unparalleled in the the Sopranos. Also, is it fair to call him insecure if he was actually right about being undermined by the captains, and their crew i.e. Brendan and Chris? He was just super old school, and some of the shit that went on in the family wouldn't have cut it in his day, as we saw when he in principle agreed with Johnny Sack's beef with Ralph. He was by far my favourite character in the Sopranos.
They went overboard in Saints but he was still insecure in the show. Like remember when Johnny Sac and Tony were able to manipulate him easily just by complimenting him? I think he was wise but he was just better at offering advice than he was at actually being in charge
The Prince Ch 21: "Never let any government imagine that it can choose perfectly safe courses; rather let it expect to have to take very doubtful ones"
@@bullywhispers9544 Yeah remember there are known unknowns and unknown knowns: The Boondooks . Society is run by things being stable a lassiez-faire policy yet the world changes.
Like this video. Will be catching up with the rest as I just finished the series for the second time (Haven't watched it since it originally aired...I was sixteen when it ended so this second watch through was a lot more thought provoking). So many people in show who's motives and tactics are questionable in the loyalty department, but each one of them with glaring flaw in character or reasoning made it such a great second watch. You captured Junior perfectly, enough wisdom and clout due to being round the block a few times, but his insecurities around his self-image and frustration at playing second fiddle for so long really did take him out the running for boss. Will be subbing and watching the rest in the background while I work from home.
I always wondered if Richie was REALLY loyal to Junior. What exactly was his plan? To kill Tony & take over as boss or to kill Tony & hand over the power to Junior making him the official boss & not just a lightening rod?
Jr was better off in the consigliere position then as boss. He gives great old school advice you only get from that generation and less pressure and doesn’t have to make the final decision.
If instead of Ritchie, Junior went to Barisi, we probably would have a totally different outcome. It does make sense to Junior to avoid compromising himself in such move, however, Ritchie is good with intimidation, not persuasion. I mean, was.
Its simple some people are natural leaders some are not. A good leader is hard to find. Junior is best as an underboss,consiglerri,or captain. He is quick to x people out.
Your deep insight and interpretation about the reason behind Albert's rejection is great. If Jr. could have seen this, he wouldn't give the entire thing up just for a tiny bit of % of profit from Tony. Like what he told Tony in a joke about bulls, "he could have fucked them all".
He was more like Sonny Corleone but his downfall is he wasn’t street & didn’t know how to maneuver & was loud with his moves & choices he was oblivious to many things & people knew how much he wanted to be involve
Even though we all truly know that Junior was the one that didn't have the makings of a varsity athlete... He could have gone places had he not had such insecurity problems. And he doubted himself frequently. I mean Jesus Christ he would go to Livia for advice. He had the capability of maintaining a cool head I mean we saw him do it plenty of times throughout all six seasons. He definitely had the aura about him of being somebody way up the food chain in organized crime. He also had plenty of influence on others in New York at one point. But his insecurities and The sopranos selfishness and The sopranos righteousness prevented him from truly ever becoming the actual boss. He only obtained it in name only and he's the one that the feds were targeting. Had he been paying more attention and had he been better to all the crews in general... He would have known a lot more than he did. He got what was coming to him at the end. Dying a lonely old man not remembering shit only coming in and out of it from time to time. I'm trying to find the 48 laws of power numbers 10 through whatever but I only can find the first nine... Are there more than that that have been produced by you? At any rate thanks again for a wonderful video. As always they are all very well thought out and executed. 🔥🇺🇸
How Machiavellian was Livia
Excellent suggestion, can't wait to see that!
“You were the real gangsta Ma”-Tony Soprano
@@mysteryjunkie9808 “I Dunno watch yurr talkin about!”
Yes, that will be awesome!! She seemed like the best gangster on the show!!
Great pick
Slippery best describes him. He was knowledgeable, but his insecurities was his downfall.
That one’s a slippery fuch, him and those big fish lips of his…
man is driven in total by his insecurities
Like most men, look what happens to most celebrities when they hit the top. Like Frank said in Scarface Chicas,flash, champagne,flash they don't last !
Junior was one of the best characters on the show. His weaknesses are what made him interesting, and much more based on the realities of human nature, than the glorified images we have of most gangsters.
2:25 is a testament to the writers and their use of words within the dialogue. I remember this episode and looked up what a Ghibelline was. Basically a member of the aristocracy in Northern Italy that supported the Holy Roman emperor (German) and contributed to the strife of the citizens in Northern Italy. It shows that Junior knows his history and used a term from that history to describe an outsider that the crew didn't initially respect.
It is actually the opposite in my opinion. He probably only picked the term Ghibelline up because someone else used it talking to him before. Remember the first season when he didn't even know who Augustus Ceasar (Octavian) was? He asks Tony, "is that the one they stabbed in the back?" Which clearly shows he has no idea about Roman history. If you don't know who Octavian is, which is a beginner history thing for anyone claiming to be of Italian heritage, i don't think you know your history at all.
@@alihandemiral7049 this is a different time period he said Holy Roman Empire. And has nothing to do with the Roman Empire. So Jr not knowing Roman history doesn’t mean he doesn’t know any other period of history after that
@@JL-rx7ou While it's true that actual historians do specialize in various fields and subfields, cultures and periods, Augustus and Julius Caesar are grade school history. Not evening having a surface-level understanding of either speaks toward a lack of interest in history in general.
Ask the common person in the street about either or and they won't be able to tell you more than Cesar got stabbed or think that Cesar was an emperor@@slizzysluzzer
He was exactly Sun Tazoo the Chinese prince Matchabellie
Quasimodo predicted it.
Even Nicole Machiavelli wasn't Machiavellian. Junior reminds me of Nicolo, a failed public official who could write a book on power and strategies. Nicolo died in poverty and retired into obscurity, somewhat like we see Junior.
I was actually thinking about doing a "How Machiavellian was Machiavelli?" hahaha
Damn, he retired into obscurity after he was already dead of poverty, hell of a way to go.
I suppose he learned from a lot of mistakes.
Most of the guys who actually get into power wouldn't write a book on how they did it, why show off the real good strategies?
I didn't like how Junior was portrayed in Many Saints, because I think his insight to the game was unparalleled in the the Sopranos. Also, is it fair to call him insecure if he was actually right about being undermined by the captains, and their crew i.e. Brendan and Chris? He was just super old school, and some of the shit that went on in the family wouldn't have cut it in his day, as we saw when he in principle agreed with Johnny Sack's beef with Ralph. He was by far my favourite character in the Sopranos.
Still haven't seen Many Saints but do you think part of it might just be him getting wiser through the years leading up to The Sopranos?
@@Ryan-ts9pi If that was it, then the scenes were overshadowed by the copious amounts of scenes of the blacks vs mob/Italian-Americans.
They went overboard in Saints but he was still insecure in the show. Like remember when Johnny Sac and Tony were able to manipulate him easily just by complimenting him? I think he was wise but he was just better at offering advice than he was at actually being in charge
I agree with you on this one.
That’s why tony didn’t take him out cause he needed his old school advice
“what do you want a boutonniere”
Mr Magoo was sharp as a fucking cue-ball
Your Frank Lucas line was perfect and I never noticed it until now, damn that's good!!
He said it best there is no answer to being the boss. Sometimes it's smooth sailing and sometimes you hit the rocks.
The Prince Ch 21: "Never let any government imagine that it can choose perfectly safe courses; rather let it expect to have to take very doubtful ones"
@@bullywhispers9544 Yeah remember there are known unknowns and unknown knowns: The Boondooks . Society is run by things being stable a lassiez-faire policy yet the world changes.
Well thought out. You're a modern day Walt Whitman.
Very allegorical!
@@JangianTV The sacred and the propane
Can we have one of these episodes on Janice? She was always working an angle
But they all fail lol
She was not really an aspiring leader. She was just scheming for petty cash.
How Machiavellian was Yo-yo Mendez next, can’t wait 🪀
Pass me the red peppers.
Great vid knowing even a few minutes in.
Thank you!
@@bullywhispers9544 right the fuck on g
Love this series!
Sharp analysis. Great video, thank you.
I'm in awe of Junior's machiavellianism.
Great stuff man looking forward to the Vito video after this one!!
Glad you like it! They will keep coming
He will never rise above being the Captian of the good ship lollipop.
He did look like frank lucas!
Like this video. Will be catching up with the rest as I just finished the series for the second time (Haven't watched it since it originally aired...I was sixteen when it ended so this second watch through was a lot more thought provoking). So many people in show who's motives and tactics are questionable in the loyalty department, but each one of them with glaring flaw in character or reasoning made it such a great second watch. You captured Junior perfectly, enough wisdom and clout due to being round the block a few times, but his insecurities around his self-image and frustration at playing second fiddle for so long really did take him out the running for boss. Will be subbing and watching the rest in the background while I work from home.
How machiavellian was David Chase?
To bad he ain't got the makings of a varsity athlete
Tony with small hands of his
I’ve been looking forward to this
He absolutely was *NOT* content living in Johnny Boys shadow..... I mean madonne! His little brudder fer chrissakes!
Richie could’ve been a perfect #2 but you’re forgetting he couldn’t sell it
Love these keep going
That Machiavellian Mummy Mr Magoo
I always wondered if Richie was REALLY loyal to Junior. What exactly was his plan? To kill Tony & take over as boss or to kill Tony & hand over the power to Junior making him the official boss & not just a lightening rod?
Probably a Carmine-John situation since he did cooperate with Junior to make money, like the coke routes
Never thought Richie would have been a good #2 for Jr. Good insight.
Nice job Bro, totally liked it.
Can you make a video about what would be the aftermath of the Soprano / New Jersey Crime Family if Tony had been indeed murdered?
Paulie would be Boss and everbody would rob him blind but would be scared of what a psycho killer he is.
9:06 Frank Lucas hahahaha 🤣
Good job 👏👏
Junior is the old romantic sensitive unintentially funny gangster
Jr was better off in the consigliere position then as boss. He gives great old school advice you only get from that generation and less pressure and doesn’t have to make the final decision.
Spicy episode!
Did you say Junior killed Chris's father @ 3:37? How do we know that?
Watch The Saints
I was thinking same thing, then I realized I never seen Saint of NJ
Great video 🤙🏽
What about sun tazoo the Chinese mathciabelli
If instead of Ritchie, Junior went to Barisi, we probably would have a totally different outcome.
It does make sense to Junior to avoid compromising himself in such move, however, Ritchie is good with intimidation, not persuasion. I mean, was.
Pretty please, How Machiavellian was Michael Corleone? Grazie.
Its simple some people are natural leaders some are not. A good leader is hard to find. Junior is best as an underboss,consiglerri,or captain. He is quick to x people out.
He's more like Larry David then Machoabelly.
You know... Quasimodo predicted all of this.
Your deep insight and interpretation about the reason behind Albert's rejection is great. If Jr. could have seen this, he wouldn't give the entire thing up just for a tiny bit of % of profit from Tony. Like what he told Tony in a joke about bulls, "he could have fucked them all".
You steer the ship the best you can.
Tbh I think Junior was a bit of a moron. Thought way too much of himself and was a terrible leader that let his emotions rule his decisions.
YEAH!!! this is the exact one I wanted to see. 😍
Or as Paulie would say "Prince Matchabelli"...giggles, who remembers Wind Song perfume?
Lol that face of Junior needs to be made into a tshirt lol.
More importantly how hilarious was Junior?
What? Are you talking about the part where he was talking nonsense, or the part where livia played him like a f@cking child.
Half a f*ckin’ tray in there!!
The courtroom sketch lmfao
Hey love the content if you ever run out of ideas I would love to see you breakdown some of the most popular episodes
How Machiavellian was carmine jr
The stupidest thing he did was get rid of his girlfriend.
Didn't know I would get Many Saints spoilers here. So much for watching these.
Frank Lucas at the meeting lmao 🤔😳😁😆😅
The blind crew that saw people's heads off shit they were creepy as hell but those dogs still hunt.
genius
Excellent Analysis and Insight! Very Good content, you must’ve been at the top of your fucking class haha
HOW MACHIAVELLIAN
IS DEEZ NUTZ!
If a dog you love catches rabies, you put it down.
I was here ! It’s a joke !
The other channel needs a Succession cast ranking
Do Tony. You might as well just get it out of the way lmfao
How Machiavellian was Emperor Palpatine?
Ever considered a Hyman Roth / Emilio Barzini episode??
Basically junior to be leader isn't someone you want but as a number 2 or adviser then Yes
I need more
Another episode is set to release tomorrow morning
if power is delegating resources and resolving conflicts then junior was terrible leader. no man eats alone, especially in the mafia.
How Machiavellian was Carmela
Christopher could have had it all. Fucking drugs,man....
Wow I didn’t know Junior killed Christopher’s dad.
Spoiler...did he really? (Fr question)
How Machiavellian was Jackie Aprile Jr.?
He was more like Sonny Corleone but his downfall is he wasn’t street & didn’t know how to maneuver & was loud with his moves & choices he was oblivious to many things & people knew how much he wanted to be involve
How Machiavellian was Christopher
He wasn’t Machiavellian at all he didn’t poses those traits
What I'm wondering is how machiavian was Vito's brother. After all , he sand bagged Tony. There needs to be a video on this
Once junior lost mikey p he was done
He never had the makings of a Varsity Machiavellian….
What kind of likeness is this?
short answer he wasnt lol
Where are you man??
Episode set to release tomorrow morning and another later this week
Also the many saints was terrible
Junior that slipper f...
Why would you fragment your small audience by making another channel that does the same shtick but with a different show?
Pardon my ignorance, but this is a serious question: which other channel?
He was a hater and a weirdo.
Try not to start most sentences with “now”
No need for it
Juniour n ralph where my favourites in sopranoes crissie had his moments n jonny sacs but juniour was great a true O.G. 👍🏿 👌🏻
Even though we all truly know that Junior was the one that didn't have the makings of a varsity athlete... He could have gone places had he not had such insecurity problems. And he doubted himself frequently. I mean Jesus Christ he would go to Livia for advice.
He had the capability of maintaining a cool head I mean we saw him do it plenty of times throughout all six seasons.
He definitely had the aura about him of being somebody way up the food chain in organized crime.
He also had plenty of influence on others in New York at one point.
But his insecurities and The sopranos selfishness and The sopranos righteousness prevented him from truly ever becoming the actual boss. He only obtained it in name only and he's the one that the feds were targeting.
Had he been paying more attention and had he been better to all the crews in general... He would have known a lot more than he did. He got what was coming to him at the end. Dying a lonely old man not remembering shit only coming in and out of it from time to time.
I'm trying to find the 48 laws of power numbers 10 through whatever but I only can find the first nine... Are there more than that that have been produced by you?
At any rate thanks again for a wonderful video. As always they are all very well thought out and executed. 🔥🇺🇸