I have been listening to this all this week. This has made me appreciate both Peter and Ben in ways that I never thought of previously. This documentary fleshed out nearly everyone involved.
Bogdanovich was all "I didn't do anything wrong because I was nice to them.... I wasn't rejecting anyone." On being asked if he thought any differently about his affairs with his lead actresses.
@@minx2528You can’t deny his brilliance as a director and deserved way better appreciation, but the way he never owns his mistakes and tries to find a convoluted excuse for everything is disturbing. Besides William Friedkin there was no other director so full of himself as Bogdanovich. Yes he was great. Yes he was an arrogant prick too, and that shows in every interview he did even decades after his prime (meaning public success, not talent -that he still got for the rest of his life-). Sorry, not sorry but Orson Welles might have been right with that second letter. And Billy Wilder was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT with his “champagne” quote hinting Bogdanovich’s huge hubris. I don’t believe a single word Peter said about Wilder’s reaction to the murder of Stratten.
Thank you for this series. I knew Peter and have heard many of these stories. It's terrific to think back on those days. I lived in Westwood and met Ben G. He introduced us in 1979. Peter turned me onto Robert Graves and Henry James. This podcast really means a lot to me. Not only is it a fascinating piece of film history, but it captures a tiny piece of my own. Please send Peter my love. I've fond memories of our time together.
I love Bogdanovich. His insights are good and his stories are not only entertaining but instructive and penetrating. I imagine it would have been fun knowing him all those years ago.
Mindy, that's really lovely. I have enormous respect for Peter, unfortunately I can't say I've had the pleasure of meeting him; I'm loving this podcast series, but I'm not sure I can handle what's coming in the next episode
A superb series; again, not only the subject and his frankness, but it's fascinating use of narrative, how each the story of each episode unfolds and the ability to secure the cooperation of other individuals speaking a lot about very personal interactions. Mr. Mankiewicz's sense of humour is evident; enjoy the theme music & use of sound effects; this is a very detailed, revealingp production.
Saint Jack is excellent cinema. The Premise of this movie is: "Here's a Pimp with a Conscience." How in the hell does that get pulled off? There was only one way. Get Ben Gazzara to play the pimp. He's terrific. And he's got a good screenplay--a little verbose but clever enough often enough to work. There's a great chemisty with his co-stars as well. You can tell that this was a totally functional project--this movie. And even though sordid shit is playing out in front of you (handled subtly--it's not in your face), and Gazzarra is the ringleader, you're hooked in and wondering: "now what is he going to do next?" The on-location Singapore setting was nice too--a Graham Greene atmosphere, colonialism, decay, and a pimp with a conscience.
A judge told me that there are three sides to a story: hers, his, and, somewhere in between, the truth. I cringe when I constantly hear women referred to as girls. There is nothing wrong with mechanics. After all, Peter drove cars or was driven in them. Good video.
There was a continuing downfall in Peter's life, which generally was of the younger blonde hair variety.. I often wonder what Peter's career/ films would have been like if he had stayed faithful/ married to Polly? 🤔
LIke Einstein's wife to Albert, the unknowable mystery of how much Polly contributed to Peter's success. But she was a drinker, which apparently hurt her in the end. Peter did not drink.
Maybe the movie Saint Jack is good, but why wouldn’t he do it with Newman or Beatty? They would have been good, it seems, he would have gotten a larger budget, etc. Seems like a dumb choice. Not sure why his ‘directing choices’ just went downhill so fast. And he obviously had some weird immaturity about women.
Watched a great Dick Cavett Show with Peter, Mel Brooks, Frank Capra and Robert Altman here on TH-cam...another classic. Thanks for citing the source for the clip here!
Oh, so he had an affair with the leading lady in his movie, Saint Jack? Largely, I have immense respect and sympathy for Peter but here I am really disappointed. He admits he was not in love with the woman in the movie, but yet he was willing to jeopardize/end another relationship. I'm not a director, or a man, so maybe I should try to have more understanding and empathy. Maybe some things are just impossible to resist, I don't know. Maybe he wanted out of the relationship with Cybill. Or maybe there are just some things I will never understand. I will say this though. Am I heartbroken that Cybill got exactly what she dished out to someone else? Actually, no. I am not.
I have been listening to this all this week. This has made me appreciate both Peter and Ben in ways that I never thought of previously. This documentary fleshed out nearly everyone involved.
Agree.
Beautiful, beautiful podcast, tender and honest.
I am totally hooked on this series! Awesome job.
Fantastic, in-depth podcast about a fascinating director.
Bogdanovich was all "I didn't do anything wrong because I was nice to them.... I wasn't rejecting anyone." On being asked if he thought any differently about his affairs with his lead actresses.
Right? His complaints about Hefner were basically a mirror of himself except that Hef never pretended to be a monogamous bf or husband..
@@minx2528You can’t deny his brilliance as a director and deserved way better appreciation, but the way he never owns his mistakes and tries to find a convoluted excuse for everything is disturbing. Besides William Friedkin there was no other director so full of himself as Bogdanovich. Yes he was great. Yes he was an arrogant prick too, and that shows in every interview he did even decades after his prime (meaning public success, not talent -that he still got for the rest of his life-).
Sorry, not sorry but Orson Welles might have been right with that second letter. And Billy Wilder was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT with his “champagne” quote hinting Bogdanovich’s huge hubris. I don’t believe a single word Peter said about Wilder’s reaction to the murder of Stratten.
Well, the women he cheated on didn't feel like sex was more casual during that era.
Another excellent episode. A pleasure to listen to!
I think unfortunately Orson's relationship with Peter was a lot like many of Orsons relationships. Your useful until you arent useful anymore. Sad
very well put together ty!! ❤❤❤❤
Wonderful series.
I didn’t expect to like Peter as much as I do. He always gave me arrogant creeper vibes.
I agree. Peter was notorious for using people and, if you weren’t someone he could use to his advantage, you didn’t exist.
Thank you for this series. I knew Peter and have heard many of these stories. It's terrific to think back on those days. I lived in Westwood and met Ben G. He introduced us in 1979. Peter turned me onto Robert Graves and Henry James. This podcast really means a lot to me. Not only is it a fascinating piece of film history, but it captures a tiny piece of my own. Please send Peter my love. I've fond memories of our time together.
I love Bogdanovich. His insights are good and his stories are not only entertaining but instructive and penetrating. I imagine it would have been fun knowing him all those years ago.
Mindy, that's really lovely. I have enormous respect for Peter, unfortunately I can't say I've had the pleasure of meeting him; I'm loving this podcast series, but I'm not sure I can handle what's coming in the next episode
A superb series; again, not only the subject and his frankness, but it's fascinating use of narrative, how each the story of each episode unfolds and the ability to secure the cooperation of other individuals speaking a lot about very personal interactions. Mr. Mankiewicz's sense of humour is evident; enjoy the theme music & use of sound effects; this is a very detailed, revealingp production.
I'm enjoying Karina Longworth's series on Polly Platt.
Great taste. I am listening to it a second time. Such compelling people.
Same!! Karina did such an exemplary job!
Great interview.
Wow, there is a lot here about Peter’s life I didn’t know about. Very intriguing. Also, I’m going to seek out “Saint Jack”.
Saint Jack is excellent cinema.
The Premise of this movie is: "Here's a Pimp with a Conscience."
How in the hell does that get pulled off?
There was only one way. Get Ben Gazzara to play the pimp. He's terrific. And he's got a good screenplay--a little verbose but clever enough often enough to work. There's a great chemisty with his co-stars as well. You can tell that this was a totally functional project--this movie.
And even though sordid shit is playing out in front of you (handled subtly--it's not in your face), and Gazzarra is the ringleader, you're hooked in and wondering: "now what is he going to do next?"
The on-location Singapore setting was nice too--a Graham Greene atmosphere, colonialism, decay, and a pimp with a conscience.
A judge told me that there are three sides to a story: hers, his, and, somewhere in between, the truth. I cringe when I constantly hear women referred to as girls. There is nothing wrong with mechanics. After all, Peter drove cars or was driven in them. Good video.
There was a continuing downfall in Peter's life, which generally was of the younger blonde hair variety.. I often wonder what Peter's career/ films would have been like if he had stayed faithful/ married to Polly? 🤔
LIke Einstein's wife to Albert, the unknowable mystery of how much Polly contributed to Peter's success. But she was a drinker, which apparently hurt her in the end. Peter did not drink.
What’s the song at 4:00? Can’t find the trailer for the TLPS it’s apparently playing in anywhere.
Rest in peace Peter bogdanovich
Maybe the movie Saint Jack is good, but why wouldn’t he do it with Newman or Beatty? They would have been good, it seems, he would have gotten a larger budget, etc. Seems like a dumb choice.
Not sure why his ‘directing choices’ just went downhill so fast.
And he obviously had some weird immaturity about women.
I somehow doubt Newman or Beatty would've done the movie...
4:58 is a clip from a great episode of "Firing Line" where Buckley and Hefner discuss the Playboy Philosophy. th-cam.com/video/71B6hqEbbYQ/w-d-xo.html
Watched a great Dick Cavett Show with Peter, Mel Brooks, Frank Capra and Robert Altman here on TH-cam...another classic. Thanks for citing the source for the clip here!
The Buckley/ Hefner interview was the first time where I noticed Hef being nervous..😊
Oh, so he had an affair with the leading lady in his movie, Saint Jack? Largely, I have immense respect and sympathy for Peter but here I am really disappointed. He admits he was not in love with the woman in the movie, but yet he was willing to jeopardize/end another relationship. I'm not a director, or a man, so maybe I should try to have more understanding and empathy. Maybe some things are just impossible to resist, I don't know. Maybe he wanted out of the relationship with Cybill. Or maybe there are just some things I will never understand. I will say this though. Am I heartbroken that Cybill got exactly what she dished out to someone else? Actually, no. I am not.
So much utterly inconsequential tabloid gossip...
Shut up.
By definition a first hand account cannot constitute gossip.
That's what the public loves.