The way they set the wood posts directly in concrete looks convenient, neat, and easy to do. But what happens in 5 years when they've rotted through due to constant contact with moisture (yes, this happens even to treated timbers)? Then you have to figure out a new way to support your shed.
A simple solution would be to fill the hole completely to the top of the hole and then some extra. Then crown the concrete at the base of the post. #boom
You need the gravel, you don't need the 4x4. Just run your sonotubes to the same height above ground, and drop in a cheap steel concrete anchor on top after filling. No wood to decay. And if you spend a couple bucks more per anchor, you can get the ones that allow you to level with a wrench if you ever need to.
Suppose all that matters is that there is proper amount of support for your structure. Once your shed is sitting on top who will really notice imperfections of the foundation? This is my professional amateur opinion.
@@wvusmc if your structure is off by a whole 2 inches you aren't going to be able to build supports unless every single measured rafter and every 2x4 holding up your walls are cut at different lengths 🤣
1:47 As far as I heard recently the wood should not have contact with a concrete, because the wood will get moist and rotten due to the capillary action of the concrete.
Truth. I think as far as a small shed is concerned just build it on concrete blocks above ground and level as needed if needed. If people over think things nothing would ever get done. It’s a shed.
@@TJ-fe7rr I've never had one snap in any portion of framing a structure...joists, subfloor, walls, roofing, everything. I would think even if 1 did snap, you'd never know because the others stay in place, and having multiple snap is just a statistical non probability. Nails however, once they work out a little, they can keep working out farther as time goes by, which sucks for floors.
Maybe you should do a tutorial on how to use the two man auger. Better yet watch one for yourselves. It is not as easy as it looks in the video and people might think “hell I can do that” but end up injured.
FYI many DYI's simply strip sod and place the skids right on the soil. I don't think bearing capacity is a problem and they're willing to live with a little freeze thaw heave.
Some parts of shed construction are very similar to home construction. Home construction just has like 4 times as many steps because you need it air-tight, plumbing and ducting and electrical accommodations, drywall, etc.
WHY would you concrete posts into the ground as the main foundations, without treating them with a water proofer or fence post sleeves? They will simply ROT in 5 to 10 years.
Wouldn't it be better if you didn't put that first layer of concrete over the stone you compact at the bottom of the hole? I would think that when you surround the post at the bottom with more concrete, the bottom of the post would be all but sealed in concrete. Directly onto the compacted stone seems more logical for drainage.
I like your reply but honestly you just got to get rid of the wood you can even use a 6x6 concrete castings and make pretty much rounded4x4s off the footings
This was great, I have been researching "what's the best base for a garden shed?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Damkietor Nonpareil Dominion - (do a search on google ) ? It is a great exclusive guide for building better sheds and woodworking without the hard work. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my friend got amazing success with it.
If you don't want your shed slowly ripped apart by frost heave, you'll go below the frost line. The only thing you can do is you don't want to dig so deep is pour a concrete floating slab. It'll still move with frost heave but it will move the building with it and not destroy it. Either way you are going to be digging.
Of course Lowe's would include the most amount of stuff to buy in their instructional video. "Don't forget the gravel, or the post hole digger, and the brackets, and the kobalt gloves, and the guy standing out front with his tool belt and a lunch box slap full of cervezas."
I thought I could do this myself, I don't have to time to learn building codes. And my wife wants a tree house too? Why did she marry a computer geek again?
Just wonderful, I have been researching "what materials do i need to build a 12x12 shed?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Damkietor Nonpareil Dominion - (do a search on google ) ? It is a smashing one of a kind product for building better sheds and woodworking minus the hard work. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate got great success with it.
Winner of a video, I have been researching "how do you lay a foundation for a shed?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Damkietor Nonpareil Dominion - (just google it ) ? It is an awesome exclusive product for building better sheds and woodworking minus the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate got cool results with it.
lee91103 it was treated lumber, you can find full step-by-step details here: low.es/1UjZ7Rs . If you have air flow under the shed a vapor barrier shouldn't be necessary. Thanks for watching.
This is glorious, I have been researching "how do you prepare a base for a shed?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Damkietor Nonpareil Dominion - (search on google ) ? It is an awesome one of a kind guide for building better sheds and woodworking minus the hard work. Ive heard some awesome things about it and my m8 got cool success with it.
Winner of a video, I have been researching "how much does it cost to build a 16x16 shed?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Damkietor Nonpareil Dominion - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? It is an awesome exclusive product for building better sheds and woodworking minus the hard work. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my mate got excellent results with it.
Wrong !!! we don't put plywood flush to the edges ... we recess it below the outside timber frame !!! (from a structural Engineer !) This will protect the plywood, while the outside timber frame should be moisture resistant!!!
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lowe's is right......you could......a tiny house for sure......but check the local building codes......some are 120, 200 and some 240 to 300 sq. ft....some cities consider it temporary, if it's not on a foundation, and as long as you're under the max sq. ft. for the area, and hook no utilities, (i.e., a shed, carport, extra garage), they can't do much....some places, if you pour an 8 x 8 or 10 x 12 slab, even for a garden shed, or a greenhouse, they consider it permanent, and then you fall under code rules, even if no utilities are hooked to it.....just check the codes for your area.....where I'm at, a three sided, dirt floor carport is legal, but not one with a concrete slab, even though it only has three sides, is only legal with a permit....
Guys I found a website on which more then 12000 sheds plans available I am learning so much on their. the website is www.fb.com/BuildingShed/?sk=app_337680106275807 all you guys should try it
Y'all make it sound so difficult all you need is 200 nails. 6 steel metal brackets. 6 4by4s. 5 sheets of tin sideing. 6 wood pallets made of pressure treated wood. 5 8by10 3inch thick pressure treated plywood boards. 1 10by10 3inch thick pressure treated plywood board and you can make a perfect shad all under $80
If you put it too close to the ground it will rot. You're supposed to lift it up high enough where critters won't want to stay under there because it's not sheltered enough. That's like what you're supposed to do. But then you'd have your shed like two feet in the air lol
Don’t follow these guidelines. You can do the same thing all with concrete without the need for submerged posts. In fact, it’s actually way easier and will last a lifetime.
This is a recipe for rats, skunks, ground hogs.. You should always make a concrete footer and slab, check your building codes, in Michigan This is illegal....
For a shed, you don't need to work under it. No plumbing or any thing else to work on. Rot will work on those wood posts with dirt against their sides though.
You are the best at showing,the how to do it yourself projects. Thank you 🙏
The way they set the wood posts directly in concrete looks convenient, neat, and easy to do. But what happens in 5 years when they've rotted through due to constant contact with moisture (yes, this happens even to treated timbers)? Then you have to figure out a new way to support your shed.
This is sort of dumb. Run the sono-tubes to the same level and add anchor bolts to the top of the pier and avoid the 4x4 post completely.
A simple solution would be to fill the hole completely to the top of the hole and then some extra. Then crown the concrete at the base of the post. #boom
@@kylevandyke840 You can also put pitch on the 4x4 that goes underground
Just wrap them with DPC membrane
That is what I thought too. They shouldn't let wood touch dirt but I'm not a handyman and never build anything before
You need the gravel, you don't need the 4x4.
Just run your sonotubes to the same height above ground, and drop in a cheap steel concrete anchor on top after filling.
No wood to decay.
And if you spend a couple bucks more per anchor, you can get the ones that allow you to level with a wrench if you ever need to.
Nice video!
I built a shed foundation over the weekend and attached the flooring only to find out that it is not square by 2 inches. Is life over?
Suppose all that matters is that there is proper amount of support for your structure. Once your shed is sitting on top who will really notice imperfections of the foundation?
This is my professional amateur opinion.
wvusmc learn to read. The floor is not square by 2 inches
Do you mean square on the horizontal or square on the vertical?
@@wvusmc if your structure is off by a whole 2 inches you aren't going to be able to build supports unless every single measured rafter and every 2x4 holding up your walls are cut at different lengths 🤣
1:47 As far as I heard recently the wood should not have contact with a concrete, because the wood will get moist and rotten due to the capillary action of the concrete.
Truth. I think as far as a small shed is concerned just build it on concrete blocks above ground and level as needed if needed. If people over think things nothing would ever get done. It’s a shed.
@@ericzenzel7447 but what about winter time and would the ground become unlevel over time?
@@mindfulmagician7550even if the ground became unlevel you can shim concrete blocks easily
Tip: Use screws instead of nails. It will last longer and won't squeak, ever.
Don't screws snap, especially on windy days. I think that's why most use nails
@@TJ-fe7rr I've never had one snap in any portion of framing a structure...joists, subfloor, walls, roofing, everything. I would think even if 1 did snap, you'd never know because the others stay in place, and having multiple snap is just a statistical non probability. Nails however, once they work out a little, they can keep working out farther as time goes by, which sucks for floors.
@@douglasgoldstein8990 thanks for telling me
Just use some grk and no problem there
You have to use nails. That's the code. 2 nails for 2x4, 3 for 2x6 and so on. Anything structural should go with nails not screws.
Hi, what's the dimension of the shed base?
So after you make the foundation is it ok to add gravel underneath animals like ground hog from making a home
Why doesn't lowes have that kind of pressure treated lumber in Las Vegas?
Did they discuss what kind of wood or how to keep it all from rotting… like the ply wood?
watching this in 2020, it hurts to watch him cut off all of that pressure-treated 4x4.
Am from the future. Wood prices are better, but we are also on the verge of a nuclear war. Anywho, good talking.
Watching in 2024 hurts twice as much now
Looks like a nice 2' cut off 😮
Pressure treated 4x4x8s are only 10. It’s really not that much waste
@@Raeannpowellit was a lot of wasted money in 2020 and 2021.
Common mistake: Posts shouldn't be directly in holes. Should be on top of pillars. Direct contact with environment eventually cause roten and decay.
Agree!
Yep - it's exactly why a few of my fence posts need replacement this spring.
Maybe you should do a tutorial on how to use the two man auger. Better yet watch one for yourselves. It is not as easy as it looks in the video and people might think “hell I can do that” but end up injured.
If you installed 4x4 wood post and secured with concrete cement, will it be deteriorated in the near future?
Yes. Wood may rot.
0:44 How long is five feet exactly? 😅
Why the overhang? Airflow?
FYI many DYI's simply strip sod and place the skids right on the soil. I don't think bearing capacity is a problem and they're willing to live with a little freeze thaw heave.
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FYI many people do all kinds of things that "work" but doesn't mean they are right. You don't sound like a carpenter talking like this.
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Great video. Funny how even in a Lowes commercial they can't find a non-warped piece of plywood. But on a serious note, very informative
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build a house like this video and it won't be long until you realize you can't under it to work.....lol...
Some parts of shed construction are very similar to home construction. Home construction just has like 4 times as many steps because you need it air-tight, plumbing and ducting and electrical accommodations, drywall, etc.
WHY would you concrete posts into the ground as the main foundations, without treating them with a water proofer or fence post sleeves?
They will simply ROT in 5 to 10 years.
Should the plywood flooring be pressure treated?
Yes
Wouldn't it be better if you didn't put that first layer of concrete over the stone you compact at the bottom of the hole? I would think that when you surround the post at the bottom with more concrete, the bottom of the post would be all but sealed in concrete. Directly onto the compacted stone seems more logical for drainage.
might be cheaper to pour a concrete pad.
I like your reply but honestly you just got to get rid of the wood you can even use a 6x6 concrete castings and make pretty much rounded4x4s off the footings
Do you have an estimate on how much it cost you to build that. I know it will be different but so I can get an idea?
No.
Loving how the upright was moving at 2.07 when he was hammering the nails in 😂
Andy Peel came just for this comment
This was great, I have been researching "what's the best base for a garden shed?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Damkietor Nonpareil Dominion - (do a search on google ) ? It is a great exclusive guide for building better sheds and woodworking without the hard work. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my friend got amazing success with it.
Those holes were dug with an gas powered post hole digger/auger; not with a hand-held post hole digger as shown in the video.
Bold of you to assume those 4x4 posts won't rot in the years to come.
Best to avoid that method all together imo
Fantastic job! Super clear and easy!
building a 14x40 garage shed and looking to find out what concrete is used for the footers
standard concrete, nothing special....
Aren't those wood post just gonna rot in the concrete?
Put concrete above grade. Won't have to deal with rot caused by the dirt.
In Florida you have to 15 feet away from fence
Those buried post will rot, the pressure treated lumber we have today is not what we had 20yrs ago
MD Harris k
yes and a waste of money
They don't want the post to last too long. They're in the business of selling post..
MD Harris I would use 8in ceder post or trees
MD Harris Yeah, just use cinder blocks. Thats what I did and it works perfect. Had a shed built 30 years ago on cinders with no issues.
With the frost line depth here, I mind as well build a basement for my shed lol
Right...My frost line per code is 48". That is insane if I have to go 12" below that! 5" plus clearance on top? That doesn't even sound sensible.
If you don't want your shed slowly ripped apart by frost heave, you'll go below the frost line. The only thing you can do is you don't want to dig so deep is pour a concrete floating slab. It'll still move with frost heave but it will move the building with it and not destroy it. Either way you are going to be digging.
@@kiiiburn your whole post is gonna be in the ground lol
Of course Lowe's would include the most amount of stuff to buy in their instructional video. "Don't forget the gravel, or the post hole digger, and the brackets, and the kobalt gloves, and the guy standing out front with his tool belt and a lunch box slap full of cervezas."
Hahaha
Where can I buy the guy standing out front with his tool belt?
Well, of course. They are producing a video that you can watch for free, they want some kind of return or there would be no point for them.
What a miserable bastard. I guess Chris works for free.
It's almost like they are in business to make money...
Informative, short and concise, thanks!
and stupid
I thought I could do this myself, I don't have to time to learn building codes. And my wife wants a tree house too? Why did she marry a computer geek again?
im a computer geek too, but I am building a shed. If I can do it, you can too! lol
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Just wonderful, I have been researching "what materials do i need to build a 12x12 shed?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Damkietor Nonpareil Dominion - (do a search on google ) ? It is a smashing one of a kind product for building better sheds and woodworking minus the hard work. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate got great success with it.
Winner of a video, I have been researching "how do you lay a foundation for a shed?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Damkietor Nonpareil Dominion - (just google it ) ? It is an awesome exclusive product for building better sheds and woodworking minus the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate got cool results with it.
@@colour2690 Your comment is fairly identical to the one above it. What should that tell me?
My goodness its a shed, complete overkill lol. I built my shed frame on pressure treated 4 x 4s on 6 patio stones, done.
Back to basics... Thanks for sharing!
Emmy Braxtly
no need for a vapor barrier under the shed ?....didn't look like pressure treated plywood
lee91103 it was treated lumber, you can find full step-by-step details here: low.es/1UjZ7Rs . If you have air flow under the shed a vapor barrier shouldn't be necessary. Thanks for watching.
and used 2X4 instead of 2X6
good job
no not a good job
great
Beauty
I just got railroad ties and put my shed on those 🤷 works lol
That was F'n beautiful!
no awfu;l simply awful poor craftsmanship
This is glorious, I have been researching "how do you prepare a base for a shed?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Damkietor Nonpareil Dominion - (search on google ) ? It is an awesome one of a kind guide for building better sheds and woodworking minus the hard work. Ive heard some awesome things about it and my m8 got cool success with it.
Winner of a video, I have been researching "how much does it cost to build a 16x16 shed?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Damkietor Nonpareil Dominion - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? It is an awesome exclusive product for building better sheds and woodworking minus the hard work. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my mate got excellent results with it.
Why did you leave the overhang
Wrong !!! we don't put plywood flush to the edges ... we recess it below the outside timber frame !!! (from a structural Engineer !) This will protect the plywood, while the outside timber frame should be moisture resistant!!!
That'd be a $5000 shed with todays lumber prices
In this time, a 2x4 has dropped in price from $9 down to $3.
@@Photologistic Good deal, ours are still closer to 4.50. But I remember 1.80. Those were the days a whopping 2 years ago.. lol
I wanted to learn this when I was young. My school did not teach me how to build stuff, how to work on cars, and how to find a handyman to marry.
Didn't teach anyone how to do these things. Gotta get out in the world and learn them on your own.
Very good
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very bad
Those post holes were not dug by hand lol
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Certainly not in CT. We don't buy a lot of post hole diggers. lol.
the best part
those are kind of 16" centre, but not the way I would frame a wall 16" centre. going to run in to problems when decking
yes
This seems overkill for a shed.
That’s because it is.
Great
Kirtan Singh up
WHAT KEEPS IT FROM BLOWING AWAY?????
it weighs a lot...
All the question marks anchor it into the ground.
Wooden posts in the ground rot away. There are better options.
I like "build the frame according to the instructions..." I thought this was supposed to be the instructions?
Building the frame is easy. Setting up runners is sometimes the challenging part.
HE PUT that one THING BACKWARDS UP! He then Dropped the Rop!
Huh?
you left out a very important part==waterproofing from moisture under the floor.
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What's the best way to do that?
Our frost line is 42 inches. So we have to go the extra mile.
Bro what r u doing use stirrups into concrete footing dont directly concrete the wood its gonna rot from mositure
Could you build a house on this?
You'd need to check your local codes on that one. Tiny house, maybe :)
lowe's is right......you could......a tiny house for sure......but check the local building codes......some are 120, 200 and some 240 to 300 sq. ft....some cities consider it temporary, if it's not on a foundation, and as long as you're under the max sq. ft. for the area, and hook no utilities, (i.e., a shed, carport, extra garage), they can't do much....some places, if you pour an 8 x 8 or 10 x 12 slab, even for a garden shed, or a greenhouse, they consider it permanent, and then you fall under code rules, even if no utilities are hooked to it.....just check the codes for your area.....where I'm at, a three sided, dirt floor carport is legal, but not one with a concrete slab, even though it only has three sides, is only legal with a permit....
too much excitement going on felt like a disco
that shed is my gaming setup
Guys I found a website on which more then 12000 sheds plans available
I am learning so much on their. the website is www.fb.com/BuildingShed/?sk=app_337680106275807 all you guys should try it
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no u
wtf you everywhere
Y'all make it sound so difficult all you need is 200 nails. 6 steel metal brackets. 6 4by4s. 5 sheets of tin sideing. 6 wood pallets made of pressure treated wood. 5 8by10 3inch thick pressure treated plywood boards. 1 10by10 3inch thick pressure treated plywood board and you can make a perfect shad all under $80
That sounds Iike a hell of a bargain build. What dimensions did you use? I need to build one ASAP
A sheet of plywood is $30-40, and 6 will get you a 4' x 4' x 8' shed.
I pay 8 dollers for a 8by10 plywood sheet
Concrete on wood. Garauntee to rot. Great start.
I wish they could show us a foundation that won't allow any animals or creatures under the sheds. Something much more simple please?
If you put it too close to the ground it will rot. You're supposed to lift it up high enough where critters won't want to stay under there because it's not sheltered enough. That's like what you're supposed to do. But then you'd have your shed like two feet in the air lol
The music is annoying. It needs to be janglier.
Ahh, look at all that spam below.
I watching tutorials that has music playing in the background.
Very fast video.. slow down please...
Post Malone
this is not how they built my foundation to my she on 6/6/18!!! They used leveling blocks.
What part of the country do you live?
better off that way
Don’t follow these guidelines. You can do the same thing all with concrete without the need for submerged posts. In fact, it’s actually way easier and will last a lifetime.
Mother in law ADU no lights plumbing insulation screens ant Hill and termites. Mosquitos
Oil
This video is about a shed. Not a house.
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Concrete duh 😹
duh??????
This is a recipe for rats, skunks, ground hogs.. You should always make a concrete footer and slab, check your building codes, in Michigan This is illegal....
building any building like this you cannot get under to work is stupid....
For a shed, you don't need to work under it. No plumbing or any thing else to work on. Rot will work on those wood posts with dirt against their sides though.
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Thats one weak ass floor. You can just hear the creaking that floor will make in a couple of years. and NOBODY likes creaky floors
its a shed lmao
Why the hell are you using screws to secure the frame? How stupid.
Screws don't work loose as bad or as quick as nails and you can (should) use coated decking screws.
BRACKETS ARE FOR WIMPS THEY RUST AND DONT LAST
THIS IS NOT NECESSARY AND COST MORE $$