Uncovering Timothy Dalton's Lost 3rd Bond Film

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  • @GuyWebz
    @GuyWebz ปีที่แล้ว +503

    I have a soft spot for Timothy Dalton as James Bond, he was a faithful embodiment of the true cold-blooded James Bond as per Ian Fleming’s original vision for the character. He was very much of a precursor to Daniel Craig in a way

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      💯

    • @jaymcd8577
      @jaymcd8577 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yea Dalton played it straight, Brosnon played it Rodger Moore style which made a nice segway back to a serious Bond again with Craig

    • @Mark-lj1dj
      @Mark-lj1dj ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Both of his are in my top 3 favourites. Never made a bad one. All other Bonds made at least one (except Lazenby)

    • @jinoziniosti5633
      @jinoziniosti5633 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Craigs a fine actor but his Bond movies are shite.

    • @zigbingham6086
      @zigbingham6086 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Licence to Kill is one of my favourite bond films.

  • @R1ch4d8
    @R1ch4d8 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    "I am now become part of a rather wonderful history". The way Dalton said that with real fondness and enthusiasm really warmed my heart.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Same here

    • @cinemaarts8795
      @cinemaarts8795 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Gotta give Dalton respect for turning down the role at first because he felt he was too young. His dedication to the character was very admirable.

    • @R1ch4d8
      @R1ch4d8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@cinemaarts8795 Aw absolutely. Genuinely putting the character first. And him a young, hungry actor looking for big opportunities too.

    • @markedlitz7703
      @markedlitz7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He is a wonderful ambassador of the series. He doesn't go on many chat shows to discuss it. But when he does, he does it with reverence.

    • @HandofOmega
      @HandofOmega 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      According to Sylvester McCoy (the seventh Doctor Who), he and Dalton were both young, out of work actors sharing a flat at one point! Then, their fortunes turned, and each wound up with one of THE most iconic roles in British fiction...😁

  • @H4is3nberg
    @H4is3nberg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dalton was an amazing Bond, way ahead of its time

  • @josemariamesa5460
    @josemariamesa5460 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I luv tim's take on bond,i relate 2 it. He also showed dramatic parts( in living daylights,he rambled his pain 2 mary'am dabo, while the following 1 was actually revenge plot,2 redeem his friend,& i love how Q joined him on the field,showing 2 fans his deep respect 4 bond.),he was a "relatable 2 all" sort of bond.

  • @shane5110
    @shane5110 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating!! This is the 1st time I've heard of this unused screenplay.

  • @SuperBrooklynite007
    @SuperBrooklynite007 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The sad part about daltons and brosnans run was they both need one more bond film… well here’s hoping cavill will be the next Bond

  • @Andrew-po8nt
    @Andrew-po8nt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OMG we were robbed of Elizabeth Hurley

  • @SmartFabian007
    @SmartFabian007 ปีที่แล้ว

    i had a wish like john glen and cubby, moore should have done 2 more bond, but, brosnas is the best choise after that, Dalton was ok and yes i wanted back in 1990 a third or evan a fourth one, but evan so i still loved to also se brosnan as james bond from -87 -08. Dalton could have done The proberty of a lady and Risico.

  • @jordansuazo9483
    @jordansuazo9483 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you make a video on the original script for Halloween 4 the return of Michael Myers.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m going to explore doing one or two Halloween themed videos for October. I’ll look into that one as a possibility.

    • @jordansuazo9483
      @jordansuazo9483 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Bulletsandblockbustersthanks 👍

  • @ericcorley1160
    @ericcorley1160 ปีที่แล้ว +684

    Nice video. Dalton's Bond films were ahead of their time. Fans didn't care for a serious Bond at the time. Skip 20 years later, and Fans loved the Daniel Craig Bond films.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Thanks and agreed. Fans I guess weren’t ready for it then.

    • @mikekaraoke
      @mikekaraoke ปีที่แล้ว +33

      You say that, but The Living Daylights + Licence to Kill were both hits at the box office, then rentals on VHS/Betamax + LaserDisc, and then later to buy etc so some were ready!

    • @ysthafellgynghori8423
      @ysthafellgynghori8423 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      The Living Daylights and Licence To Kill tanked at the box office. Stop rewriting history please. I'm a Bond fan and I hated the Daniel Craig films.

    • @gb1967.
      @gb1967. ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@ysthafellgynghori8423they did not tank, they may have been among the lower earning films of the series, but they both still made a fairly hefty profit, many tens of millions worldwide, bearing in mind this was 30 odd years ago, so when adjusted for inflation that figure would look pretty dam good

    • @rafaelfiallo4123
      @rafaelfiallo4123 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Craig isn't universally loved either....

  • @blowfishes
    @blowfishes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +300

    It amazes me how Dalton’s take on Bond was so many years ahead of its time. A different decade and he would be lauded for his portrayal. License to Kill is still my favourite Bond film to date, though many are extremely close.

    • @adriansherman3290
      @adriansherman3290 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought Roger Moore retired because they wanted to take the franchise in a different direction, and his age of course. Bond died after Tomorrow Never Dies.

    • @hafabee
      @hafabee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Licence to Kill is my favourite Bond movie as well. It's excellent 80's cheese and I love all the characters in it, most of all Dalton's portrayal of a James Bond gone rogue.

    • @bartsullivan4866
      @bartsullivan4866 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I really enjoyed both his films as Bond just to bad he didn't get 1 or 2 more before Brosnan.

    • @adriansherman3290
      @adriansherman3290 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dalton was a very good actor. If all had gone to plan he'd have had 2 more Bonds. As it was there was a 6 year hiatus. Living Daylights is like a modern FRWL.@@bartsullivan4866

    • @manoman0
      @manoman0 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Dalton? Best Bond ever. Hands down.

  • @Zamppa86
    @Zamppa86 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    That third Dalton Bond would have been a blast to see. Dalton is criminally underrated as a Bond actor, I really liked his much more serious minded and coldblooded style to play the character after the much more humoristic Moore version. Add Anthony Hopkins as the villain and that movie would definitely have been a big success.

    • @user-yl1xy5eg7b
      @user-yl1xy5eg7b ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely underrated. Definitely.

    • @markedlitz7703
      @markedlitz7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are actually two different versions of his third. One is an action comedy and the other is a techno thriller.

    • @MissR-hn8be
      @MissR-hn8be 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💯💯💯

    • @KimBailey-w2g
      @KimBailey-w2g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Missed opportunity😢

  • @afterhourscinema782
    @afterhourscinema782 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Imagine being offered the role of a lifetime and turning it down multiple times because you're too young and respect the character. Now THAT'S a dedicated actor.

  • @RichardM-kv4uu
    @RichardM-kv4uu ปีที่แล้ว +162

    I do wish we'd had another Dalton Bond film, but can't blame him for not wanting to do another 5! Great video as always!

  • @willdobson7351
    @willdobson7351 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    "In a word - No" Absolute gold. Dalton was hugely underrated, and far more like the Fleming character than Rog or Pierce.

    • @prussianpolydactyl836
      @prussianpolydactyl836 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Licence To Kill is one of my 2 favourite Bond films. Can't really spit it with Diamonds Are Forever.

    • @jackwest3282
      @jackwest3282 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I always saw Roger Moore's Bond as the Adam West Batman of the James Bond series of Films. Cheesy goodness, that you just never took seriously, but also enjoyed all the eye candy he brought to the screen via the femme fatales as well as lovers of the character. Two different characters yet same level of cheesiness, when I go back and watch Moore's bond...I have expect him to start doing the Bat-toosey. lol

    • @markedlitz7703
      @markedlitz7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like that different actors bring different energy. It would grow stale if they were all cut from the same cloth.

    • @sporkfindus4777
      @sporkfindus4777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Roger Moore was fantastic

    • @YtuserSumone-rl6sw
      @YtuserSumone-rl6sw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Entertainment value, no.1: Roger Moore
      Close to original character, no.1: Timothy Dalton
      As interesting and with the depth of Barbie's Ken, no.1: Pierce Brosnan

  • @1967SPAWN
    @1967SPAWN ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Whenever I read a Bond nocel, its always Dalton I see in my mind. He nailed it. The problem is that the books and films became two separate entities with different expectations.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah many don’t realize this but a bunch of the iconic stuff from the movies was changed from the books

    • @AndyJay1985
      @AndyJay1985 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dalton said it best in the Everything or Nothing documentary, "This is terrible. I can't bring my 6 and 7 year olds to see this. Bond wasn't made for 6 and 7 year olds!"

    • @clodualdobbeojr5744
      @clodualdobbeojr5744 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Perhaps like a true theater actor, Dalton was challenged to bring Bond to what Fleming originally envisioned. But after decades of making Bond a super spy caricature, it was difficult for EON to create a serious, realistic spy thriller. Worse is that due to Brosnan's popularity ( everyone being familiar Brosnan's similar type of genre) there is an expectancy and urgency for Brosnan to succeed the Bond Connery and Moore has created.

    • @Norvik_-ug3ge
      @Norvik_-ug3ge ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@AndyJay1985That's true, in terms of the books, but the movies were marketed to those kids, and to teens as much as adult men. And the books were read by all too. I went to see Moonraker, aged 7, and loved it, for example. Fleming did not like his books being read by young boys and teens and wrote The Spy Who Loved Me novel deliberately as something they would hate, he thought. As an adult I see lots of things 'wrong' with James Bond as a character, and there's also the weirdness of making an early 1950s character, who is essentially still a pre war sort of person fit into the contemporary world. Bond looked so out of place in Harlem in Live and Let Die because that social history was totally absent from the Bond movies. I shall shut up now.😂

    • @simonbutterfield4860
      @simonbutterfield4860 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bulletsandblockbusters this! The scene in Licence to Kill where Bond finds Felix with the note saying "he disagreed with something that ate him" was lifted from the Live and Let Die book.

  • @rafaelsays175
    @rafaelsays175 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    Dalton is the best Bond so far and very true to Ian Fleming’s creation. Licence to Kill is seriously underrated.

    • @starsiegeplayer
      @starsiegeplayer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      License to Kill was what Man with the Golden Gun should have been.

    • @nathanjames1142
      @nathanjames1142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Love Dalton. His two films are in the five Bond films I'll still watch.

    • @jf_c137
      @jf_c137 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He's my favorite Bond: the tortured one.

    • @decimustv4257
      @decimustv4257 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What better than Connery? LOLLLLLLL are you real!!!! Dam I have seen some stupid comments in my life, but this one has to take the cake. LOL, Dam you are funny dude.

    • @rafaelsays175
      @rafaelsays175 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@decimustv4257 lol it's obvious you haven't read any of Ian Fleming's books. In fact, Fleming was appalled that Connery was selected and called him the opposite of Bond. Ps...read some books....it's good for you.

  • @markgarrison7722
    @markgarrison7722 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I always assumed Goldeneye was written with Dalton in mind, given its somewhat darker tone and the running theme of Bond starting to get older. Interesting to see what might have been.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      An early draft of goldeneye was for dalton.

    • @AnkitSingh-xl6pt
      @AnkitSingh-xl6pt ปีที่แล้ว +12

      GOLDENEYE was indeed written with Dalton in mind. The plot was much more darker and personal.
      The film's main antagonist was originally named Augustus Trevelyan, Bond's mentor when he was recruited into the MI:6 from the Navy. Trevelyan defected to the Soviet Union with secrets from the financial intelligence and just after the end of the Cold War he planned a cybernetic attack on the WTC in New York.
      Trevelyan in this script was originally meant to be played by Sir Anthony Hopkins

    • @markedlitz7703
      @markedlitz7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He needed another film to be better established for the general public.

    • @markedlitz7703
      @markedlitz7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There were many versions of GoldenEye. Some were written with Dalton in mind and some were written with a generic Bond in mind. With the understanding that the final decision would be made later. Cubby wanted Dalton. MGM wanted to start fresh.

  • @JulesFox
    @JulesFox ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Dalton is possibly my favourite Bond - I think with a third movie, Dalton would have broken the ice and make a fourth and fifth. It's our loss that the third Dalton movie was never made. This was a wonderful summary of the movie that "could have been". I really wish we could get a copy of this screenplay as well. I can't believe Dalton didn't want to do more.... what a shame. Brosnan did a great job with most of his movies... however some production aspects let him and the franchise down.

    • @mohammedashian8094
      @mohammedashian8094 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He did want to do only one more but cubby said you have to do more because of the time gap but he didn’t want to make that commitment because he didn’t want to overstay his welcome (unlike Roger who REALLY looked way out of place in the 80s) which honestly I applaud him for that and I would’ve done the same thing I would only do it for 3 movies and leave so it be something that I love doing and not that I have to do it because my contract says I have to

  • @brianegendorf2023
    @brianegendorf2023 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I never understood why people didn't like Timothy Dalton as Bond. I actually liked the idea of a grittier Bond. And in License to Kill he was brutal in his revenge quest. That was a side of Bond I was "all on board" for. The funny thing is, I was in Israel on vacation when the Living Daylights came out..and while everyone else on my tour went to Disengoff Street that day.. I went to see the movie, and loved it!

    • @nuntana2
      @nuntana2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was really good. Put him second to Craig.

    • @sleepinggorilla
      @sleepinggorilla 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      When I was a kid I did not understand Daltons take on Bond. Now License to Kill is one of my favorite Bond films and I wish Dalton had done more. Dalton in general is a great actor.

    • @thelostadventuresofjamesbo5182
      @thelostadventuresofjamesbo5182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think that has to do with when you were introduced to the films. People initially resisted Moore because he wasn't like Connery. Then they resisted Dalton because he wasn't Moore. But I'm with you. Dalton is great.

    • @philipgriffiths3106
      @philipgriffiths3106 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@thelostadventuresofjamesbo5182 I think you have said something that hits the nail on the head. I grew up with Roger Moore & struggled to appreciate Dalton until I was older. Then I found Moore's take almost childish compared to Dalton. Connery will always be on a pedestal with many, because he was the first but that doesn't mean he was really the best portrayal against the books. For me Craig & Dalton are the best portrayals, but Moore & Brosnan will be the best for those who rate the humour side over grit.
      So my rating would be Dalton & Craig in top spot, followed by Moore, Connery & Brosnan joint second. Then below that is Lazenby... in my view, way below.. great plot but I have never felt he portrayed the role well enough for either grit or humour

    • @winny8420
      @winny8420 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think one reason people weren't overjoyed with Dalton as Bond is because he wasn't womanizer like Connery & Bond only slept with one per each film, of course both his films were great. I suppose they had to tone down the sexual element of the films because of AIDS Epidemic at that time.

  • @chris56269
    @chris56269 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Dalton is probably my favourite Bond. Nothing against the other Bond actors, writers, directors or producers but Dalton's Bond was the first Bond that felt serious and had real depth, yes he could be charming but he was a dangerous man doing a dangerous job. I'd have loved to have seen more films with Dalton in the role.

    • @johnnyjensen8805
      @johnnyjensen8805 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agree

    • @rohanmarkjay
      @rohanmarkjay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Me too Dalton was far better than Brosnan in the role. If truth be said, Dalton and Lazenby were the best Bonds in the entire franchise because they were the only two actors who wanted to play Bond faithful to the Books. While the others decided to ditch the Bond of the Books. Dalton and Lazenby bravely decided to play the serious Bond of the Books knowing full well. Audiences might like the Books interpretation of Bond. Shame that Dalton and Lazenby only got few Bond movies to do.

    • @chris56269
      @chris56269 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rohanmarkjay I'll be completely honest. I own a few of the Bond books but have never found the time to read them. That said, I've had a lot of conversations with those that have and I've seen several video essays and I agree with you that Dalton definitely seems the closest to the books.
      I've never had a problem with books differing from what ends up on screen so long as it's entertaining and even though Dalton is my favourite, I like the Bond movies, they're often great entertainment.
      I really enjoyed Goldeneye and still want that to exist but I definitely wanted more Dalton.

  • @Curarkaig
    @Curarkaig ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I always felt Timothy Dalton was the best Bond of the pre-Craig era, the audience just wasn’t ready for his interpretation. I wish we got one more movie with Dalton but I wouldn’t have liked such a dramatic tonal shift as this script.

    • @fletchbg
      @fletchbg ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I agree. As a big fan of the two Dalton films, I'm glad this third film didnt get made considering how silly it sounds like it wouldve been. If we couldnt have gotten a third film with the same tone as the first two, dalton's legacy is best left standing on the two we got.

    • @KnifePhD73
      @KnifePhD73 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This script sounds wild af. I cannot even imagine Dalton getting caught up in such a mess.

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It would have been toned down in the filming and editing of it. After all, they filmed the magic carpet escape for Living Daylights, but cut it out of the final print.

    • @КурочкаКрашена
      @КурочкаКрашена ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think his two Bond entries are the best ones - I can't believe that Licence to Kill is the lowest grossing Bond film - it's easily one of the best. To think that Diamonds are Forever, Octopussy, Quantum of Solace and any of the Brosnan ones after Goldeneye did better than it is such a poor reflection of the cinema-going public.

    • @andybrady2964
      @andybrady2964 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LtK was a 15 certificate in UK. I had seen Moore's last 3 and TLD at the cinema but was too young to see this one. It's probably a big reason why the box office was lower and no other Bond has had 15 certificate before or since. It wasn't a family friendly film. The original cut was rated R for America, and even with editing of some violent scenes was still PG13. Dalton was awesome and I'm glad he didn't do what sounds like a very poor third film.

  • @jonathancampbell5231
    @jonathancampbell5231 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Licence to Kill suffered from a more adult rating as well as serious competition at the box office that summer (Batman, Leathal Weapon 2 etc), plus reportedly poor marketing on the part of a studio executive who didn't care for Bond, and that's the main reason it failed- a lot of fans have since come round and consider it one of the best Bond movies in terms of actual quality, and definitely the most intense.
    I'm glad this movie wasn't made to be honest- Dalton deserved a third movie, but this one sounded silly.

    • @JayTemple
      @JayTemple ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Viewed by itself as just A movie, Licence was a good movie. I just didn't care for it as an entry in the Bond film, precisely because he's not on a mission.

    • @fletchbg
      @fletchbg ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Oh he was on a mission all right, it just wasnt given to him by M.

    • @j.st.jamesesq.9599
      @j.st.jamesesq.9599 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I can attest to the lack of marketing for LTK . I worked at an ABC television affiliate in a major U.S. market that summer, and there were only 4 (4!) commercials that aired to promote the film. I don’t think the other movies released at the time hurt Bond’s chances for better success. Bond shouldn’t worry about “Batman,” or “Lethal Weapon,” etc. Those movies should worry about Bond.

    • @juliangrant9718
      @juliangrant9718 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The marketing was gross on License to Kill. I'm still sore about that photoshop poster. Minimal effort possible. Worst Bond poster to one of the best Bond films.

    • @juliangrant9718
      @juliangrant9718 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JayTemple he's on a personal mission. Mission of revenge. What makes it awesome is that he doesn't have MI6 at his disposal. He has to use his wits. And what makes it hard is how much Bond starts to respect the villains ideals on loyalty while MI6 kinda screwed him. He can identity with a scumbag.

  • @markedlitz7703
    @markedlitz7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    If you're curious to learn more , I wrote a book on this. It's called The Lost Adventures of James Bond. It covers Dalton's 3rd and 4th unmade Bond.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Whoa! Thats amazing. Thanks for sharing!

    • @thelostadventuresofjamesbo5182
      @thelostadventuresofjamesbo5182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      So many plans. They just scratched the surface of what they hoped to do with him!

    • @KimBailey-w2g
      @KimBailey-w2g หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How can I get this book I would like to read it

  • @mitrooper
    @mitrooper ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dalton will always be to ultimate Bond.

  • @bofo85
    @bofo85 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Damn shame we never got a third Bond film with Dalton. He was great as Bond and his films were ahead of its time. License To Kill is one of my favorite Bond movies

    • @thelostadventuresofjamesbo5182
      @thelostadventuresofjamesbo5182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They had plans for a third and a fourth!

    • @YtuserSumone-rl6sw
      @YtuserSumone-rl6sw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What made it even more sad was the decision to make Plastic Piece Brosnan into James Bond.

  • @powerwagon1897
    @powerwagon1897 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Dalton has always been my favorite Bond......would love to have seen more 007 movies with him

  • @Embur12
    @Embur12 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Brosnan getting older and not looking like a skinny kid was perfect, plus he got the Golden Eye script which is one of the best plots in the series. I liked Timothy Dalton and thought he did a great job as Bond.

    • @southlondon86
      @southlondon86 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When did he look like a skinny kid in the Remington era?

    • @Embur12
      @Embur12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @southlondonguy1986 The entire run on the show, he was maybe a size 42 jacket.

    • @SyndicateSuperman
      @SyndicateSuperman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brosnan actually was both the lightest and heaviest actor (body weight wise) during his time as Bond. He weighed 165 lbs during GoldenEye and 225 lbs during Die Another Day.

  • @ahlads
    @ahlads ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love Roger Moore and Timothy Daltons Bond movies because I grew up in that era. I think that's the key to everyone's favourite Bond.

  • @TrentPruitt1997
    @TrentPruitt1997 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nice work, now could you do George Lazenby’s Diamonds Are Forever?

  • @davidgifford8112
    @davidgifford8112 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you’re a purist (read at least a few Fleming novels) Dalton got closest to Bond as portrayed in the books. “Property of a Lady” was also a genuine Fleming story, which makes it authentic to me. As such I would have liked to seen it with Dalton. Bronson never felt right, simply not dark or ruthless enough for me!

  • @cp070476
    @cp070476 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Solid Bond. Timothy was class! Deadly serious, a change from Rogers comedy Bond.

  • @iansands8607
    @iansands8607 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    2 or 3 more Bond films with Timothy Dalton would have been great, he was the perfect as James Bond.

    • @cooperwolfe5478
      @cooperwolfe5478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. Honestly he’s my favorite Bond and i find it said that it took people a long time to realize how great he was as Bond.

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Three would have been stretching it. He was 43 when he made Licence to Kill. He'd have been 48 making 17/Property. At a two year gap between films that would have made him 52 come film 19, which is Roger Moore territory for FYEO, Octopussy and Dalton would have wanted to steer well clear of comparisons to A View to a Kill.

    • @ER1CwC
      @ER1CwC ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ⁠@@cooperwolfe5478 I think Dalton was weighed down by the fans’ attachment to (what I see as the ridiculous) Roger Moore formula. My father came of age during the Roger Moore generation, and the general complaint I have heard amounts to “Dalton was not Moore - not confident, nonchalant, and suave enough.” There was also a complaint that the post-Cold War villains were not strong enough. My father loves the Brosnan Bond films because (I think) they effectively amount to the Roger Moore Era Part II. I hate both Moore eras.

    • @KimBailey-w2g
      @KimBailey-w2g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ER1CwC and the only reason why that more of a longer run is because he knew I in Fleming and broccoli and in my opinion, they should put their foot down and said no I mean 14 years is too much and you’re right about Brosnan

  • @Saltybuher
    @Saltybuher ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love Dalton’s speech patterns and voice. A great Bond.

  • @JAY-JAY74
    @JAY-JAY74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I loved Dalton’s Bond because it was believable. The intensity of his acting and the storyline made his movies timeless.

  • @chaddelk3605
    @chaddelk3605 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Timothy Dalton's take on James Bond is more appreciated now than in the late 1980s.

    • @kennyj43
      @kennyj43 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. I've always thought it was a pity that he did not get any more. This video explains why that did not happen but I think Dalton had the right approach to playing the character, and I think he did great job in both films. I guess he was ahead of his time because Daniel Craig's approach is quite similar, and properly celebrated for it, and I think he, too, is a terrific Bond, despite being blonde :)

  • @CRITTERBUSTERS
    @CRITTERBUSTERS ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Timothy Dalton was a brilliant bond and his films stand the test of time better than most of Moore and Brosnan’s films. The third Dalton film had two completed scripts, one that was more comedic and another that was serious but not as serious as Licence to Kill. The latter one was written by Michael G Wilson and Alphonse Ruggerio, this one was the one I feel would’ve been the one that got the balance right and Dalton would’ve probably went out with a warmer reception. At least now he gets the credit he deserves.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯

    • @fletchbg
      @fletchbg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That Wilson/Ruggerio script I wouldve liked to have seen made, but it was good they didnt try to get 6 or 7 entries out of Dalton like they did with Moore.

    • @CRITTERBUSTERS
      @CRITTERBUSTERS ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fletchbg
      Dalton should’ve gotten 2 more or at the very least 1 more, it would’ve been a tidy trilogy. Upon reading the outline that Ruggerio wrote
      I am convinced it would’ve been great, maybe they could’ve dropped the idea of the female cyborg and it would’ve been perfect.

    • @CRITTERBUSTERS
      @CRITTERBUSTERS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MagicCarpetRideShareProject
      Yeah, in a way both Dalton and Brosnan were kinda wasted in different ways. Dalton was given a raw deal with his contract and Brosnan was given a bad deal with his scripts.

  • @richardsculley67
    @richardsculley67 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Watched Licence to Kill recently and you realise now how good Dalton was and how good that film was

    • @KimBailey-w2g
      @KimBailey-w2g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s just sad that now he’s getting the recognition that he deserves when he should’ve got a long time ago and as I say I’ve seen it recently and it is a Jem of a film. I would’ve loved to of seen another movie out of him, but it is what it is and when I watched it again, I was literally in tears because right then and there there is our bond.

  • @ractsninjas
    @ractsninjas ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Dalton was a great bond. License to kill was great!

  • @roderick8167
    @roderick8167 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow I thought Die Another Day was goofy but this unmade movie Property of a Lady sounds just as goofy if not more than Die Another Day and that's saying something 😂, also I didn't know Pierce Brosnan was almost Bond long before Goldeneye I found this very interesting too

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, that’s probably because many of these ideas were reused for die another day. Earlier versions of this script also had more robots and goofy tech stuff too. Bullet dodged!

    • @roderick8167
      @roderick8167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bulletsandblockbusters yeah we all dodged a major bullet Lol

  • @big_lolo_01
    @big_lolo_01 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Im glad we got Goldeneye over this movie. It doesnt seem like it would have been as good of a movie as we got. It also seems that it also over corrected Daltons seriousness by leaning into comedy too much.

  • @cinemaarts8795
    @cinemaarts8795 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I would've loved to see Timothy Dalton in a straight-up adaptation of an Ian Flemming book. As much as I appreciate what he tried to do, I feel that Dalton came in too little too late, the audience (and I get the sense the people behind the scenes) weren't ready for a gritty Bond at the time.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or possibly too early

    • @cinemaarts8795
      @cinemaarts8795 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Bulletsandblockbusters I meant Dalton's age when I said too late.

    • @markedlitz7703
      @markedlitz7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His fourth film would have been pure Fleming. Not an adaptation but clearly inspired.

  • @BezoRazo
    @BezoRazo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Based on his Bond performances, I used to think that Timothy Dalton just couldn't do comedy, but that opinion changed when I saw him many years later in Hot Fuzz :)

  • @johnwells5414
    @johnwells5414 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Timothy Dalton was always a favorite of mine! If a View to a Kill was his first Bond film it would have been a much better movie!

    • @user-si9fx4xb6v
      @user-si9fx4xb6v ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, if Timothy Dalton had become James Bond sooner, and Licence To Kill was his third movie I think that audiences would have warmed up to him.

    • @jimmydyne
      @jimmydyne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Lewis Collins should have been Bond for VTAK.

  • @robertbeckman2054
    @robertbeckman2054 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At the time Pierce Brosnan seemed like a wonderful, refreshing choice (I don’t share this sentiment). However, in hindsight he became the most milk toast of all the bonds, and Timothy Dalton the most underrated. A film that should have been…

    • @partyboi8773
      @partyboi8773 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, I agree. Brosnan was never as funny as Moore, not as charismatic as Connery, and not as hard-edged as Craig or Dalton. He was a kind of lukewarm hybrid of all those.

    • @awavey
      @awavey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought Brosnan was excellent in Goldeneye, I think the quality of the scripts thereafter went downhill and he was lumbered with some pretty awful films. Dalton is underrated, though I think Licence to Kill pushes the limits of what a Bond film should be

  • @Des_Zee
    @Des_Zee ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video. Having grown up watching the Roger Moore Bond films, they were starting to get a little silly and goofy so the Dalton films seemed to bring them back to a more serious tone. I love both Dalton Bond films with 'Licence to Kill' being my favorite.

  • @basscot17
    @basscot17 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thanks for the video! I do want to point out some errors: the movie was never going to be called Property of a lady, that's just an internet myth.
    Secondly, this screenplay is the first version of a 3rd Dalton movie. However, they scrapped this script and started doing a completely new one which turned into Goldeneye. Goldeneye was originally meant to feature Dalton. Officially, Dalton deopped out by early 1994, and Brosnan was hired 2 months later in April 1994.
    The Bond of Goldeneye certainly has many tropes of Dalton's version, even if Goldeneye is slightly more outlandish than License to kill

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks! And you’re absolutely right which is why in the video I made a point to say “tentatively” titled as they were throwing around a bunch of different titles at the time and certainly hadn’t settled on one. And the story I discuss in the film is the third draft of Bond 17 that would’ve been made before the production stalled due to legal disputes. When things picked up again they began developing what would become the GoldenEye script.

    • @basscot17
      @basscot17 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Bulletsandblockbusters fair! It's very hard to condense an unmade movie to 10 minutes and I understand the need to explain things concisely, I appreciate what you guys are doing

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% and thank you!!!

    • @nick6var
      @nick6var ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@BulletsandblockbustersI do remember that there was a delay in Goldeneye's production due to similarities between the script and True Lies. Was this true? Maybe there's enough material for another video.
      Great job!

    • @davidjames579
      @davidjames579 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@nick6var Seeing the True Lies clip here as Bond uses the jet to kill the villain in a skyscraper makes me wonder if that would also have been in GoldenEye.

  • @Laukki
    @Laukki ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dalton 🤩 my absolute favourite! He truly was ahead of his time and should have had at least one picture more like in his contract but in these days I'm just glad he did at least two, which are excellent 👌 thx for this video!

  • @edwardlees4585
    @edwardlees4585 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I believe Dalton was the best, was the closest to Fleming's vision and sadly underrated.

  • @dustingmyguitars
    @dustingmyguitars ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dalton is my favorite Bond!! Intimidating and charming at the same time

    • @chloeirnes
      @chloeirnes ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Me, too! He was and still is the best Bond! Looking forward to seeing who is next!

  • @ezravanmelle4333
    @ezravanmelle4333 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Don't get me wrong, GoldenEye is great, but Dalton's portrayal of Bond is overall the closest to Ian Fleming's creation, and it would have been wonderful to see a few more films in the style of License to Kill.

  • @thereismoretothestory
    @thereismoretothestory 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent video. As a fan of the books I enjoyed Dalton's darker take on the character and felt it was closer to Fleming's concept. Some of the humor in the Moore series had almost become too cartoony. I was very disappointed when Dalton didn't come back, but now that I know the circumstances, I fully understand why he didn't. Having said that, I would not be at all put off if he came to the role as an old Bond, dealing with the effects of age. They could even take the humor of the age further by casting an older actress - someone in their sixties - as a "Bond girl".
    I would love to see them take the series back to Bond's origins, being recruited out of the Navy following world war 2, and have it take place in the fifties. It would also give them a chance to give smaller origin stories to both Q and M. Doing this would give the character of Bond the opportunity to be awed by the technology he is going to be using.

    • @markedlitz7703
      @markedlitz7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The origin story idea was floated for Dalton's first. If you're curious, I get into it for my book The Lost Adventures of James Bond.

  • @zacharyburau6657
    @zacharyburau6657 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good video, was curious if you’d do a bond video. Not sure if you’d ever do comedies but I remember reading they almost did a wedding crashers 2, Vince vaugh and owen Wilson were competing against Daniel Craig to crash weddings, might be an interesting video

  • @Aspectus
    @Aspectus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So many people feel they need to choose a favorite Bond. I feel lucky to see so many wonderful interpretations of Bond.

  • @JLvatron
    @JLvatron 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I loved Living Daylights, the main cast and theme song were spot on.
    But License to Kill was too sad, with Felix and Teri from 3’s Company.
    I think Property of a Lady would have been a great Timothy film.

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Timothy Dalton is the most underrated James Bond, and I would have loved to see him get a third film, especially if Anthony Hopkins was the villain... at least we got Pierce Brosnan in Goldeneye, not a bad substitute

  • @Profvanhelsing1972
    @Profvanhelsing1972 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like the two Dalton films that we got. I think he would have been great in For Your Eyes Only and reworked versions of the 80s Moore films. I also would have loved Dalton in Goldeneye.
    I rather have the two films that we got than a jokier proto-Brosnan era film with some notes of Lethal Weapon.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here

    • @AndyJay1985
      @AndyJay1985 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly. I would have loved Dalton or even Pierce Brosnan in a View to a Kill.

  • @philipgreen8227
    @philipgreen8227 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He was a great bond unfortunately the general public was not ready
    He has one of the best reveals of a bond in daylights
    Its a shame

  • @TheUltramarine762
    @TheUltramarine762 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Timothy Dalton was my favourite Bond, his films were much more grounded, darker and felt real. Too bad he never got to play another Bond film, but the script for this one sounds so goofy and Roger Moore style that I dont think Dalton could have pulled it off anyway. Him suddenly becoming a goofball in a totally bizarre and unrealistic plot from a darker, violent and more dynamic Bond with more realistic storylines would have also been awkward. But to date, Dalton's portrayal remains the best one.

  • @johnclements6070
    @johnclements6070 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My personal favourite Bond. I've read and own all the original Fleming books and TD was the most accurate and cold.

    • @partyboi8773
      @partyboi8773 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, seems like a a lot of people who have read the books (myself included) prefer Dalton's Bond over any of the others.

  • @partyboi8773
    @partyboi8773 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dalton's Bond movies aren't my favorite Bond movies, but Dalton is my all-time favorite Bond. I think he captured the character better than anyone ever has, even though the scripts he had to work with weren't the best. The Living Daylights mainly suffered from having an unmemorable, uninteresting villain; he needed a Goldfinger or a Blofeld to play against, or a Jaws/Oddjob/Red Grant, and without the sparks of that type of clash he couldn't truly shine. The opening teaser of Living Daylights is probably my favorite part of the film, and maybe my favorite of all the Bond opening sequences. As for Brosnan, he's charming as hell, but when he's playing the harder-edged, scenes, to me he always feels like an actor trying to play a tough guy. When Dalton plays those scenes, I find the look in his eye utterly convincing. Dalton's Bond really was ahead of its time, laying the groundwork for the more hard-edged Bourne movies which then paved the way for Daniel Craig's grittier Bond. But during Dalton's era, audiences and critics were used to the cartoonish Roger Moore 007, or other more over-the-top 80s action heroes, and just weren't ready for it.

  • @flashtheoriginal
    @flashtheoriginal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You state Licence to Kill (the most realistically violent Bond at that point) produced low profits adjusted for prevailing high inflation. Yes, it did at the time; because Dalton was dragging Bond out of expensive buffoonery into the genre of a dark, hardened, driven, killer. The Bond audience was looking for gadgets, big budget sensationalism and fun....but they got solid acting, plot and drama.
    I loved Dalton as 007. Born to play it, in the way Fleming had written the character.
    Casino Royale still stands as the best Bond movie, the best debut, with DC as the best Bond, but The Living Daylights is up there with the best of them all

  • @Anthonycheesman33
    @Anthonycheesman33 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I still wish he got a third bond movie . This movie sounded interesting anthony Hopkins as a Bond villain would have been amazing

  • @samuelmoulds1016
    @samuelmoulds1016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    yeah, I liked George playing James Bond. he had no acting experience, and he gave a new refreshing Bond, while I 'pined the loss' of Sean. still can't figure out why he left the 'Bond Franchise'! especially after I saw the first movie he stared in after leaving James Bond 007.

  • @j.st.jamesesq.9599
    @j.st.jamesesq.9599 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is an excellent report. I’ve read Broccoli’s autobiography and this video is factually correct. (btw… Dalton’s Bond movies didn’t do well at the box office because the director, John Glen, was a third-rate director). He had also directed the 3 previous Bond films to Dalton’s, and the series had grown stale by then.)

    • @lukasnummer1
      @lukasnummer1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      John Glen is absolutely perfect for Bond, and I would even bring him back now. Richard Maibaum called Glen the "greatest action director in the world".

  • @blowfishes
    @blowfishes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would love Dalton to return as the villain in a very gritty and intelligent Bond film. Hell, the whole Hong Kong concept could be brought back. I know they have already done the previous 00-Agent goes rogue in Goldeneye and Skyfall, but a truly calculating villain who despite having his plans foiled, manages to escape and continue to plan to destroy the Bond character would be perfect.

  • @RltchieI
    @RltchieI ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As I understand it Dalton was approached before Brosnan for what would be The Living Daylights but was tied up filming Brenda Starr so had to turn it down. They then approached Brosnan & upon agreeing to take the roll his contract for Remington was reactivated at which point Cubby said “Remington Steele will not be James Bond”. Dalton was approached again and by this time he had finished work on Brenda Starr and was now available. This plus the previous several approaches made for Dalton dating back late 60s would suggest he was the first choice not Brosnan. Brosnan started well, but then regressed to the more cheesy Moore era. Craig started well & then appeared to get turned into a pouting castrated PC generic agent and not Bond. Skyfall was the last Bond I watched and bar the character names it was just a secret agent movie with no real resemblance to the character created by Fleming. Dalton will always be my favourite Bond & I will always feel it was the greatest shame of the franchise that he only did two movies. That photo from Cannes 1990 with the large frontage pierce on the Carlton hotel saying “Dalton would return as 007 in the 17th James Bond coming summer 91” is a reminder of what could have been. I have a feeling future Bond films are going to be made for a very different target audience.

  • @FloridaTrailStompers
    @FloridaTrailStompers ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video. Just watched both Dalton films this past week. Still love them. Always wanted more from Dalton. Never knew there was a 3rd one in the works. Hoping the filmmakers go back to the original “universe” of Bond and not do another reset.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! Rumour has it Nolan is going to do a period piece

    • @Norvik_-ug3ge
      @Norvik_-ug3ge ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't know if you have read the Anthony Horowitz Bond continuation novels, but he said when interviewed about his last book, that he would like to see the Bond movies remade but set in their original time period. Interesting, but I don't think it will happen.

    • @FloridaTrailStompers
      @FloridaTrailStompers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Norvik_-ug3ge yeah don’t think it will happen too. I’m a huge fan of the franchise. I accepted Daniel Craig, and I understand why Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson went the route they did. Cheesy as it would be, and a slap to intelligence and the movie going audience, they could open up the next Bond as he was doing a VR training and the last 5 films were training materials and he failed the training by dying. Wishful thinking. So the filmmakers have two ways of going, well they could go three ways, but two are their only options now, one, have a new 007, James Bond is now a “code name.” That would carry on the Daniel Craig timeline. Two, totally reboot the franchise, again. New timeline, new Bond altogether. Or three, make it like these 5 movies were part of a VR training and reestablish the original timeline, or four, just ignore these 5 movies altogether and pick up from Brosnan’s timeline or Bond, but with a new actor in place.
      All just my two cents

  • @michaelburke7978
    @michaelburke7978 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In a perfect world, we would've gotten a Dalton movie in 1991 and 1993 before Goldeneye in 1995.
    Still, Goldeneye is actually a Dalton movie, as the script was penned for him. He was close to returning but left around early '94, as he just wanted to do only 1 more; he was told he can't just come back to do only 1, especially after a 6 year haitus. I can understand both sides to this.
    I love Pierce as much as the next fan, but its such a shame Dalton couldn't have his magnum opus and go out with a bang. He would've knocked it out of the park.
    Plain and simple, Dalton was robbed, and so were we, all because of a stupid lawsuit that dragged out.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. I feel his films never really found their footing. He deserved a great bond movie.

    • @ΜακηςΛ-ε5ρ
      @ΜακηςΛ-ε5ρ ปีที่แล้ว

      In another perfect world, Dalton play in ''A View to a Kill'' and in a fourth in 1992 to the celebration 30 years Bond films.

  • @HGates-hl4eq
    @HGates-hl4eq ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dalton was Craig's Bond before Craig. Love Dalton's movies.

  • @30AndHatingIt
    @30AndHatingIt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish Dalton got his final film, and then Goldeneye went ahead as planned with Pierce. It feels like a missing part of history at this point, it should’ve happened.

  • @chheinrich8486
    @chheinrich8486 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do a Video on the original tristar godzilla script from 1994 by the speed director

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ll look into it

    • @chheinrich8486
      @chheinrich8486 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bulletsandblockbusters i at least had a far lore faithfull godzilla Design 🤣

  • @mikligardur9104
    @mikligardur9104 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dalton has grown on me and really think he should have gotten more movies. Personally felt he should have started earlier like in A View to A Kill(Roger was just too old for active 00 agent) followed up with his 2 movies plus one more at least so 4 movies.

  • @sporkfindus4777
    @sporkfindus4777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Actually, despite Dalton and Brosnan having different acting backgrounds, approaches to the character and styles, they seem somehow interchangeable in some ways. Brosnan is a little younger than Dalton, but I think they could've made each other's films.

  • @naughtydog1617
    @naughtydog1617 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I see many TH-camrs either neglect to mention or they JUST DON'T KNOW that GoldenEye was actually made FOR Dalton. They wrote everything with him in mind. Why do you think Pierce acts the most serious in GoldenEye compared to his other 3 films? Because that's how Dalton played him. And why do you think GoldenEye is the most violent compared to Pierce's other 3 films? Because that's how Dalton rolled, especially after LTK. I could point out many moments in GoldenEye where you would go: "Yeah, that's something only DALTON would do all right!" So, GoldenEye was SUPPOSED to be Dalton's 3rd film after the 6 year hiatus.

    • @michaelburke7978
      @michaelburke7978 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right? Dalton was really close to starring in Goldeneye, and left around Q1 of 1994. He just wanted to do Goldeneye and go out on a high note, but he was told that he can't just come back to do only 1 movie, especially after a 6 year hiatus.

    • @markedlitz7703
      @markedlitz7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There were several unmade Daltons. This video shows one. Another was a techno thriller. Another was an origin story.

  • @DummyYEEEAAHHHHH
    @DummyYEEEAAHHHHH ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Timothy Dalton is my number 3 Bond....License to Kill is a very dark noir film... very underrated in my book

  • @thewierddood
    @thewierddood ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should do one on 21 Jumpstreet and Men jn Black cross over movie

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s my dream movie. It’s on my list but not sure enough info ever leaked about it to do a video on.

    • @davidjames579
      @davidjames579 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bulletsandblockbusters Sony had a thing for crossovers. They also considered doing a Barbie crossover with He-Man, and a Men In Black crossover with Ghostbusters!

  • @scottpage3133
    @scottpage3133 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I personally thought Timothy Dalton was a brilliant bond, bond is a stone cold killer full stop and he played that perfectly in my opinion.

  • @reznik232
    @reznik232 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't know if it's your way of describing things mate but every one of your videos since day one makes the "what could have been" sound so much more interesting than what we actually got!

  • @ianbeale2527
    @ianbeale2527 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I liked Dalton's portrayal of Bond. I just didn't like the films themselves. To me they didn't feel like "Bond" movies. More like cheap Hollywood knock offs . The cinematography just seemed off.Like they were made by someone who did tv action series like the A Team and had no real vested interest in , or real knowledge of the Bond franchise.I really wish Dalton had made a couple more Bond movies though, with better scripts and more interesting plot-lines.
    But that's just my opinion, so it ain't worth anything.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I agree. The production values and direction of both films felt cheap.

  • @asifkhan4822
    @asifkhan4822 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video of what could have been with Dalton's final Bond movie. Timothy Dalton provided the template for the serious Bond as played by Daniel Craig many years later. But Audiences weaned on the Roger Moore years just weren't ready for it in the 1980's. How ironic that audiences tastes changed when Craig played Bond as they were now ready for a more serious take on the character. Dalton was years ahead of his time, the fact that Dalton did want to reprise the role for a 3rd dispels the myth for years that it was because his contract was up and the legal dispute holding the film meant he wasn't interested. Dalton revealed recently years later in 2017 or 2018 that when he said he'd like to return that Cubby told him he would have to commit to 4-6 films at it had been to long a gap since 1989's Licence to Kill. This is what really turned Dalton off and he declined the offer to return leading the door open for Pierce Brosnan, who was originally the leading candidate to replace Moore initially but lost out because CBS producers renewed their 60 day option on his show Remington Steele

  • @jamesrael9557
    @jamesrael9557 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really great visual accompaniment to your description of the proposed film. A++

  • @gungfugilman9529
    @gungfugilman9529 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's a shame Dalton didn't get a trilogy he was really good in the role.

  • @Mark-lj1dj
    @Mark-lj1dj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:25 Hopkins as Trevelyan 😨 I really can't picture that. It would have been a very different character. Sir Anthony is great but he was never really an athletic actor. Sean Bean was perfect in Goldeneye 👌

    • @markedlitz7703
      @markedlitz7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was another version. A sort of prequel where Bond would have been paired with a senior agent. If you're curious, check out The Lost Adventures of James Bond. My book about unmade and forgotten Bond.

  • @BilSande4
    @BilSande4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was a big fan of Dalton's Bond. I never really liked all the corny stuff from the older movies. Dalton played the character more serious and grounded, and I thought that was the right way to go. I guess that's why my favorite James Bond films are the ones with Daniel Craig. But after those, License to Kill and Living Daylights are my favorite Bond movies. It's too bad Dalton didn't want to continue in the role. Because once Pierce Brosnan took over, the movies went back to the silly over the top corniness, like Bond wind surfing a tidal wave. Cringe.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought goldeneye struck a good balance of humor and seriousness. They got progressively sillier tho until die another day which was awful.

    • @joergzabbee3921
      @joergzabbee3921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here. Brosnan in my eyes was just a hollow Plastic-Dandy-Bond.

    • @JRRob3wn
      @JRRob3wn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joergzabbee3921Brosnan’s Bond had no edge or menace IMO. Even Moore’s Bond could flip from goofy to steely cold killer in the blink of an eye. Brosnan just couldn’t capture that. Goldeneye is overall great, but I find the early 90’s women’s lib routine that was shoehorned into it to be embarrassing. Of the Brosnan films it’s the only one I rewatch though, the rest are pretty forgettable IMO.

  • @nelsonhibbert5267
    @nelsonhibbert5267 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought Timothy Dalton was great. He was terrific as the guy that lived in a tree in Flash Gordon and carried out those weird wanking type initiations.

    • @user-yl1xy5eg7b
      @user-yl1xy5eg7b ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that Dalton was underrated. I was almost saddened to see him in Hot Fuzz, until he showed a blend of comic menace that I have never seen before or since.

  • @Statsy10
    @Statsy10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think Dalton was underrated. The Living Daylights is actually an excellent movie, though I remember License to Kill being pretty underwhelming. Interestingly, I once saw an episode of Charlie's Angels with Dalton as the guest star, playing a suave jewel thief. This portrayal was prime Bond and I have to think it's something the producers once came across to put his name on the list in the first place.

  • @nickslade3978
    @nickslade3978 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brosnan could be as cold and convincing a killer as Dalton when allowed to be. His kills in TND, TWINE and especially in The Fourth Protocol confirm this.

  • @dc8rdecoded
    @dc8rdecoded ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! The only thing is that I recall reading that Dalton was asked before Brosnan was, he said no, they went for Brosnan, the Remington Steele fiasco happened and we landed where we were.
    While the hiatus prevented us from having another Dalton film, I think it helped revitalize Bond for the modern era as the crew was still the same one that made the Moore films, so fresh blood was needed all over the production, which enabled Goldeneye to succeed.

  • @adriantownsend2317
    @adriantownsend2317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ... Craig's era feels more like a facile soap, with the story arc something the producers felt they needed to not only get audiences invested in the characters but to get them coming back to the cinema to see how it played out. I found it particularly difficult to warm to his Bond and feel that no movie in his era can stand alone. Timothy's Bond was fresh and exciting after Roger Moore's era and although I feel if The Property of a Lady had been filmed, the comedy elements needed to be toned down (monster truck chase!) However I would have preferred this to the rather po-faced Daniel Mr No Gadgets Craig era!

  • @Sp33gan
    @Sp33gan ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Having read (and still have) the original Ian Fleming novels, I loved Timothy Dalton's Bond. Part of the problem, to me, is that the writing was still trying to show Bond as the goofy comedy version of Roger Moore. Looking further back to the best Bond of all, Sean Connery would put out funny one-liners but never stooped to the low comedy the Moore movies did. To me, Dalton was a return to who James Bond really is, a ruthless spy who did what he needed to do to get the job done, yet still maintained enough of a lighter tone to entertain.
    As for Brosnan, while I loved him in some of his early movies, I hated Remington Steele and felt cheated when he was cast as Bond. He wasn't bad, but he never thrilled me. That said, Brosnan got what Dalton didn't get - better writing.
    I saw the first Daniel Craig one. The heavy violence without the humour made him just another action hero, and the retroactive rewriting of the the main series' characters left me cold. I've never watched another Bond film since. Never even been tempted.

    • @nihits
      @nihits ปีที่แล้ว

      watch diamonds are forever

    • @Sp33gan
      @Sp33gan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nihits I first saw it as part of an all night Bond showing at a drive-in theatre way back around 1974. It's far from Connery's best but I honestly don't think his heart was into the movie as he'd already quit being Bond once before. And, yeah, the writing isn't great in that one. The book is a lot better.

    • @cityhunter557
      @cityhunter557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here
      ....my father is diehard bond fan but dont like craig how much he does action

    • @Sp33gan
      @Sp33gan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cityhunter557 I agree with your father. Not to personally knock against Craig, but modern moves have generally become more dependent on CGI and action and far less on story, plot and character development. Not a great trade in my humble opinion.

  • @changbeerbeer
    @changbeerbeer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, a lot info I never knew! I always liked Timothy Dalton as Bond, maybe because The Living Daylights was the first Bond movie I ever saw, but thought he played a great roll, thought his second bond appearance wasn’t the best script and not Timothy’s fault! You have my sub! 👌

  • @bechak2001
    @bechak2001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait a minute in actuality, Dalton actually played 2 non James Bond characters 1 in Cornetto 2 - Hot Fuzz as Simon Skinner, who he was killed later on the second role is actually a superhero origin prototype story as Sinclair Neville in Cliff Secord aka Rocketeer 1.

  • @solmann8441
    @solmann8441 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He was a great 007. I liked both of his movies. Too bad he didn’t continue.

  • @buddylove346
    @buddylove346 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good job on the video and that's coming from a BIG 007 Bond fan who's name is James.

  • @johnpittsii7524
    @johnpittsii7524 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always ❤ Timonthy Dalton as James Bond

  • @andyharman3022
    @andyharman3022 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Living Daylights was panned because Dalton's portrayal was seen as too smarmy.
    License To Kill I think was much better, and Dalton played Bond with a much harder edge.
    I would have gone to a third Dalton Bond film. But I was still carrying a 5-year-old disappointment that Brosnan hadn't been cast in the role.
    It's interesting that Cubby Broccoli met Brosnan on the set of For Your Eyes Only. This would be because Brosnan's wife Cassandra Harris was in the movie (the Contessa). I was surprised that Brosnan's Bond had such a hard edge. I expected him to play the role with the same savior faire that he had played in Remington Steele. My favorite Bond with Pierce is Tomorrow Never Dies. (Please don't mention Die Another Day.
    I completely lost interest in Bond movies with Daniel Craig.

  • @NorthWay_no
    @NorthWay_no 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Am I all alone for liking George Lazenby? IMO Daniel Craig was too old for his last Bond, but they certainly tailored the film around that. In hindsight, Moore should probably have bailed a film or two, though I liked Octopussy even if I can't put my finger on why.

  • @andrewoldham3675
    @andrewoldham3675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, the more I think about Project: 007 (the new Bond game currently in development from Hitman creator IO Interactive), instead of that "origin story" they keep advertising (as we already got a Bond origin story in 2006 with Casino Royale) why not retool it to be an original 007 adventure and have Dalton come back to voice the role? His voice hasn't aged THAT MUCH, so we wouldn't have the situation of Sean Connery's obviously aged voice in the From Russia With Love video game adaptation, and Dalton could finally get and overdue due as 007. ESPECIALLY since Dalton's portrayal has gotten a lot of retroactive praise from younger modern Bond fans like myself.

  • @ΜακηςΛ-ε5ρ
    @ΜακηςΛ-ε5ρ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dalton should have play in ''A View to a Kill''.