“BLACK PEOPLE SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO CRUISE” | TRIGGER WARNING
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2022
- In recent Werks there have been 3 major brawls on board Cruise Ship. Due to all of them involving Black people many have that Black people shouldn’t Cruise. Let’s address it.
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My experience after 21 cruises is that as cruises have become less expensive, more and more people have realized the cost effectiveness of being on a moving resort. As that has happened, more and more people who didn’t go to charm school are cruising and bringing their lack of generalized manners with them. This includes people of all ethnic backgrounds and economic levels. I typically cruise in a suite, in an exclusive section of the ship. People with money can be just as classless as those with more modest incomes. Money doesn’t make you classy and poverty doesn’t make you classless. That’s all upbringing.
very well spoken
Great comment. My first cruise was on Carnival in 1992, it was geared towards young professionals and college aged (The Party Ship) not families. I had a blast. No problems with fighting - mostly people in their 20-30s starting their careers, meeting other like minded young adults and experiencing new things. It cost a lot more and no drink packages in those days.
This is the very best response to this mostly one sided video!!
Most of the crazy or nasty things I've since have come from people with money.
It cost nothing to be a great human being 🙌🏽I love cruising ❤️
And choices!
I’m a black women from an inner city NYC neighborhood that grew up on food stamps and section 8 and I really appreciate your take on the matter. Being black is not the sum of my existence nor do my traumas and misfortunes dictate my attitude towards life. Being black is not the most interesting thing about me nor do I feel the need to treat my racial identity as an accomplishment.
Let us be judged not by the color of our skin, but THE CONTENTS OF OUR CHARACTER!
Amen to that!
Please, really?
@@tonywood1969 Yes, really. Sold your own selves into slavery then have the narcissistic gall to accuse people with white skin of the deed after our godly constitution framed the very argument that freed you, to the tune of 650k dead in the civil war. Since that time you've done nothing but whine, complain, riot, loot, pillage, murder and destroy. Few of you have any mother/father family values and you vote marxist, baby killing demoncrat every single time. Obama was a gay, muslim communist, married to a man and to this day, not one black city on this earth is desirable to live in. Everybody owes you something and you've always got an excuse why you can't get along. Every single American is sick to s--- of you, but we can't say a damn thing lest we get fired from our job for talking truth. The only hope you insane people have is Jesus, but you even abuse Him - yell out loud by His name in church so you can get more free stuff but live like demons and attack attack, loot, riot, steal, lie and accuse the righteous rest of the week. I've seen your people ruin every good thing you come in contact with and we don't feel this way, 'because you black.' We know these things because it just so happens that these characteristics are exactly who and what blacks are. No nation on this earth is the better for you being there. You don't produce a damn thing. You make crappy art and you just basically seemed cursed. America has bent over backwards to assist and help and give to you, but at every turn, you are never satisfied. Dear God when will it end? Yes, please go back to where you came and leave us to make America great again. Of course you will not. Only by force or the power of God will you diminish like the orgs of Lord of the Rings. Knowing this, multitudes have simply moved away from you. Multitudes have relocated away from your Chicago, Atlanta, Columbia SC, etc. black hells and found jobs in areas that remain mostly white. It's the only way to live in peace and get away from your loud, obnoxious, emotional, zero honor, disruptive, hateful, hypocritical and aggressive behavior. So, you may ignore this statement, or worse, submit to be deleted on TH-cam, which actually just proves my point - you don't want open discourse of truth. You only want to invade, and destroy anyone who doesn't lick your boots and stroke your chip on the shoulder. SOLD YOUR OWN SELVES INTO SLAVERY, THEN HAVE THE NARCISSISTIC GALL TO ACCUSE PEOPLE WITH WHITE SKIN OF THE DEED AFTER OUR GODLY CONSTITUTION FRAMED THE VERY ARGUMENT THAT FREED YOU. MEANWHILE, NOT ONE BLACK CITY ON EARTH IS DESIRABLE TO LIVE IN. NOT ONE. LORD GOD YAWEH BLESS THIS MESSAGE AND BRING AMERICA BACK TO GREATNESS. SHOW US THE WAY TO RID OURSELVES OF THE ENEMY TO OUR CONSTITUTION AND RESTORE OUR ONCE GODLY, AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE. MAGA
@@tonywood1969 Yes, Sir. 🥰
You're a black woman. Not women
I grew up poor poor , no vacations , lots of trauma , but I know right from wrong . I know how to carry myself .
Perfectly and concisely said!
Not everybody knows how to act growing up in certain areas. Some people are just down right ignorant. You must have been taught better.
I’m willing to give grace if they can learn and change from this but, if you are constantly doing shit then nah you on ur own. And let’s not act like white lady Karen’s haven’t been ruining cruises either. 😂😂
Please don’t every be a product of a bad environment because every race
has underprivileged people of all races. It’s all how I act or react among
others. Some people of all races have no manners and are too loud. I
didn’t grow up poor at all, I grew up upper middle class background. We
went on vacation, reading books is the best thing we can always do. I hated
Disney, we went the second year it open. Black people need to do for
themselves and stop fighting each other, being so loud, do something
to better yourself. I’m going to say this and I know some of y’all going to
ago off on me. The guys on corners selling drugs, just imagine those same
guys cleaned up, different mind set, instead of selling drugs they’re selling
Products for some company and tops salesmen on top of it all. If you can
sell drugs you can sell anything..
Same
I agree, as a black woman sometimes I shake my head when people just don't know how to be civilized.
Must be a Black American thing
yt folks love when u Bw dying in student loan debt make comments like this😩
@@freshaziisfreshaziis5064 And blk men are dying from killing each other so…
@@sheelahales3834absolutely not
They treat the trip like its a bbq yard party at an uncle s house
For ANYONE who wants to fight on the cruise ships should be ban from all cruise lines. Press severed charges and huge fines.
I think rather than huge fines and permanent bans they should have court mandated therapy for 5 years and a 5 yr ban. People that get drunk /fight like this in public are people that are profoundly messed up and hurting. No one stable brawls, it takes an extraordinarily broken person.
@@olgaharris1103 How is getting therapy to work thru problems an excuse? Most people aren’t actually very good at self reflection and recognition of how to work thru issues especially those that grow-up in poverty/in trauma etc etc
Fortunately, the CEO of one of the major cruise lines announced a new policy issuing lifetime bans for anyone involved in an on-ship fight. a sensible move.
Maybe like a 5 year ban… people can change a lot in a few years.
Do you really think the cruise lines will ban these people the cruise lines are instigators overcrowded ships, get through your booze a disaster waiting to happen. Strange you do not get these fights on smaller cruise ships? Who is going to press charges, and who will they press charges with? These ships are foreign registered and literally get away with murder.
Well spoken brother. As a Black man myself from the hood, I still strive to teach my children how to conduct themselves at all times. We are about to embark on our 2nd cruise and I'm praying that we don't encounter any bad situations. I really wish people would be more mindful of others. Some people work hard and make many sacrifices to go on cruises , so we should do everything in our power to avoid ruining our own as well as everyone else's fun. If you encounter a hostile situation please, if possible, just walk away.
I'm a black man, and the lesson I learned is not to cruise in large groups. My wife and I have been cruising steady since 2012, and the only issue we had was when we went on a cruise in 2015 with a group of 14. There were too many disagreements, people showing up late, getting lost, not properly prepared, and arguments. No fights, fortunately ..... very close, though. So, no large groups .... especially inexperienced cruisers
Agree 100%, never cruise with a large group, its always catastrophic
💯
I so agree with this. Large groups are a recipe for disaster. ❤
I agree. We cruised with 16 family and friends once. Remember, I said only once haha
That’s a black thing. Not respecting agreements that have been made.
It’s important for people to have these conversations, respectfully.
The HUMAN “RACE” needs to DO BETTER 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Exactly, the past two years have just gotten worse . Everyone needs to stop being so shitty to one another .
People don't know how to treat each other. Wish everyone would show each other love.
Amen
Definitely!
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You spoke a lot of truth. No matter the skin tone or background we all need to do and be better human beings. ❤️🙋🏾♀️💯
That is so true a white Italian family got into several fights on Carnival in 2019 or 2018 theres videos of. Look around lots of videos of whites getting into fights on cruises. Ive met plenty of good black folks on cruises too.
well said
Very well said!
Agreed
@@beathumble2 Yep, when I heard about the fights on cruise ships, I never thought that one particular race was doing that. I was just thinking maybe young, drunk, college kids. That was my bias. I know that not all college aged kids act the fool, either, though. Btw, is Adler your last name? A relative of mine was married to a Don Adler who was on the Army during WW2.
I am a black man and I totally agree with this video. I appreciate you being honest and brave enough to make this. You have voiced what some of us are definitely thinking. Great video. Keep up the good work!
Absolutely agree with you. I just got off of a cruise a week ago and the entitlement that I saw was incredible. People treating the staff like trash , being impatient rude, and childish. Definitely need to do better
My friends son got told by a school counselor at his inner city elementary school that he’s “acting white” for being into SciFi, skateboarding, and for having a walk-on part in a ballet. The school counselor was concerned that he wasn’t embracing his culture. There’s no such thing as “acting white.” It’s really not fair to limit people and put them in boxes. Thank you for addressing this!
That's the dumbest shit I ever heard of lmao. He cant like video games, comics because of a culture? What kind of shit... They're literally saying he cant be himself to like these things because it didnt "fit" his "culture". That makes no sense. Especially in today's time. 1 more thing, HES A FREAKING KID!! As a black guy that was born in the 90s , people didn't care who I talked to, who i made friends with, what hobbies that I do, how I speak "English", listen to more than 1 genre of music ( yes I listened to metal music and that shit kicks ass). Omg hearing this, ain't no way in 2023 we have teachers worrying about what kids should be liking that are positive for a kid to do. Not for their "culture" you stupid... lol
Sounds like a nice kid. I hope that your friend can get out of that district.
She meant he isn't being a Thug so get with the program LOLOL NFL QB Russel Wilson was called out by other NFL players that he wasn;t "Black Enough" I guess basically cause he's not ghetto and he behaves like a civil human being?
Im black and latino and have experienced the same all my life. Never in school, but by uncles, aunts and people who meet me for the first time. Some mean it as a compliment, but is it?
This is very sad. In corporate America they use the phrase "imposter syndrome" instead of that other phrase "acting white". Why can't we be cultured and diverse?
Being well mannered, polite, and even tempered can take you a long way. Even if you have not had certain experiences due to your income. Money can’t buy you class!! I’ve seen poorly behaving rich people and poor people.
Yep! Money doesn't buy class!
Money can’t buy character!
sounds like anecdotal garbage, Poor people typically behave poorly and rich people (old money) behave with class just due to their lifestyle alone.
@@selfishbeats old money can be snobbish, while poor can be humble too. Bottom $$$ doesn’t guarantee good character.
Yup, we were poor growing up but my parents taught us to be kind to all. The "golden rule" was drilled into us from a young age. We were taught to respect all humans as we are all children of the same God.
I read an article where a black Jamaican lady who owned a hotel in Jamaica and was refusing to book African Americans in to her hotel because of their sense of entitlement and bad attitudes.
There are many reports lately of the rudeness and lack of manners black Americans at hotels in Jamaica. I saw this firsthand at the buffet at a resort in 2017 and 2018. I cringed everytime. One shouting at a chef as he was looking for food that was not served at that particular meal. This hotel owner has probably had some like that.
100% agree that it’s more of a socioeconomic issue more than a race issue. You’re a credit to your generation for bringing up a difficult topic and allowing it to discussed. Change happens through respectful open discourse. Unfortunately the respectful part is often forgotten
Isn't that usually the case? Ignorance & poverty go hand & hand!
I like what you said about a discussion.
How is the Tom a credit to anybody, but the white race he prefers??
@@gayleholmes9081Google Uncle Tom before you use his name as a negative, please.
I agree! It's not about race, more about how you're brought up and the environment you live in!
“You talk white/you sound white” is so ignorant and I’ve heard it a lot growing up from my fellow black classmates/family members and it was so stressful I felt like I had to change the way I talk. Telling people they sound white is so disrespectful and mentally draining like who the eff am i supposed to sound like. This was a great video that needed to be said and you said it in the most respectful way. I am a black woman and i totally agree.
My daughter, white and blond, was bullied in HS because she was "too white to be puertorrican" and "too puertorrican to be white". She got rejected by all racial groups.
@@jaypee5633 yea I’m half black and half filipino. I could never be enough for either race.
I’ve been called Oreo since high school not too long ago I was asked where I was from from another fellow black woman, because I sounded very proper and well rounded, and I’ve gotten comments like that before any questions like that before and explanations like that before because they’re always seem to be so surprised that a girl like me at my age by the way, I am like 21 talks the way I do talk
It’s probably just low self esteem and not having any sense of self worth. My wife is full Native American and grew up on the Navajo Nation which is one of the poorest areas of the US. She is successful and driven. She gets FAMILY members telling her she “acts White” because she is successful. The rich, liberal White, elitist media has been pushing this narrative since the 70’s to try to keep minorities down and reliant on government aide which in turn ensures their vote to keep these country club, career politicians on the left in power. The media (which is over 90% rich and White) is responsible for this bs narrative that if you are successful, we’ll spoken, and a minority, you are “acting White.” They are trying to instill this mindset.
Me too. Is so sad 😞.
I’m black and I appreciate you making this video! Refreshing, balanced perspective.
You're mixed
@@timopheim5479 So is Obama and he doesn't want to live near black people, either.
@@timopheim5479yep.
We're ALLL MUTTS!
Go trying to be too purebred? You get special afflictions from it.= Egyptian royalty, the English aristocracy, incest...
Not Good things.
Is good to be a Mutt. Wide gene pool!
aint no blackman with a yt bih, should be having a post like this😩
@@freshaziisfreshaziis5064 White women have respect. They don't bed down with tar babies.
Facts! And its so crazy to even have to expect people to behave with common decency everywhere. I am black and learned how to not always react to EVERYTHING, treat others with kindness, and just be HAPPY. Once that mindset kicked in, life is just more peaceful. IDK why someone (regardless of race) want to act like "a$$clowns" in public, let alone on a vacation. DO BETTER people.
IKR!! DECENCY!!
Thank you so much for speaking out loud and keeping it very real! You are 100% on point! We love your channel!
I am a Black woman from the hood who loves to travel. I went to public school, ate school lunch, at a time both my parents were addicted to crack. Lived in subsidized housing. I saw someone I know murder someone else as a teen while taking out the garbage. I could go on about the trauma in my life especially as a youth. No one can see that when they meet me. Yet so many do see my color and decide I am not worth getting to know.
Yes the fights are Black people. But it’s not playing victim to say that Black people live a different experience.
I just went to Essence festival in New Orleans and I felt the safest I have ever felt in a long time. The city was full of Black people. I never saw anything to the Carnival fight. I do believe class has something to do with it also. Also when people are abused there are consequences to that abuse. People are effected by violence. That is not to say people are victims. It is to say that reality is what reality is and how can things get better if we can’t acknowledge what it is wrong. How did we get here??
How do we fix it?
It’s not by segregation but wisdom and most important understanding.
Preach, Jae, preach…well said
I am a White woman and I think we lived very similar lives. My parents were Crack heads too (and still are). I don't speak to either of them because I always wanted a better life than they had. I now own my own home and have been married for 23 years. I don't think your race means you have different experiences. I think we all have our own trials.
Agreed, yes that's a good question. I came from the same background. I know it's not all black people fighting on these ships but the videos give the appearance that it is and because of that we people of color are judged. Yes how do we fix this issue?
I'm 65. I remember segregation, the fights, and the really nasty parts of desegregation. I would swear that my relatives would have sheets hanging in the closet. I didn't understand it then, I still don't. You are a person, just like me. We had different backgrounds and I learned respect. Our senior class in high school had the first black president in the school's history. We had been through fights the years past and our group was determined to end it. How? By talking. By respect. And by getting to know each other and care about each other.
I think that the respect is a lot of it, there's a big lack of respect out there right now. It makes me sad to see the things happening and being said, I keep thinking "didn't we go through this before? Doesn't anyone remember how it was and want to do better?" We have to start by reaching out and taking personal responsibility for our actions, talk. Make friends. And don't assume anything about the other person by way of their dress, color, hair, car, or any other thing. Start with "hi".
And I would love to meet you someday, Jae. I'll be the crazy grandmother in the wheelchair with the green and purple (or some other color) who writes vampire novels and sometimes has a baby werewolf doll with me (at conventions and signings anyway.)
@@tenngirl1976 a person of colour living in a majority white definitely has a different experience. Institutional racism, regular racism on a higher level than us white people receive it, police brutality. The list goes on. Not the same experience. Especially if you’re in the US, there’s so many documentaries there’s no good reason for anyone to actually believe this.
I agree to a Certain degree. I actually feel more embarrassed and feel like I’m being judged by actions of others and I think that is what has me upset the most!
As a black man, I definitely understand you man. Ish is sad dude 😞.
As a white woman. I judge everyone on their character not their skin color. And it’s sad in the world today that we cannot come together as one family under God. The US needs the so badly. You have trash is every culture & society. But your character is the only thing you have and the people who do not see that is stupid. Just saying.
I'm ashamed by how sensitive some people are 😉 I know it sounds strange, but it wasn't until I was grown up and in my 20s that I realized that the racism I had faced in my youth was normal. Yes, it was normal. Not acceptable, but the fact is that racism is like slavery. Everyone "knows" it only existed in the West. Until they leave America and explore the whole world. Look at history. Even the word slave itself comes from the European "Slavic" people, the Slavs.
Every place has racism. Everyone has ancestors who were enslaved - even white slaves!
No one can hand on heart claim they have never said a racist word, or never had a racist thought at some point. If you're honest, you probably have laughed at a few jokes in secret that you wouldn't want others to know about.
It's just part of the human condition. I love all people - even those who hate me because of my race. Because, and this is the Great thing - who cares?
Who cares if some people hate me because of my skin? It doesn't affect me at all. So why care?
And if everyone has at some point laughed at a joke about race (and don't pretend you haven't), why should I pretend I'm some morally perfect being and those who laugh at such jokes should be ashamed?
It's just part of the human condition. We are all fallen. Embrace all people. Very very few people will judge you.
You are far more likely to be judged over your choice in shoes and clothing than over your skin colour.
To the woman who says the word slave came from Slavic. I have to disagree. I am Slovak snd went there. I did not see even 1 person of color in the entire country. People of color were not stupid enough to ever go there!!! So I have hard time believing that. My grandma lived there til she was 18 & first time she saw a black oerson was in the US & this man was a police officer who helped her find her way to her aunts. So we were never raised in any way if rasicm thankfully.
@@mookiesullivan344 😳 you have literally got to be joking me! You have got so little concept of history. People of all kinds have been slaves. Including the Slavic people
As a member of a dysfunctional family I know what it's like to deal with people who are easily triggered by just about anything and can turn any vacation or family event into hell. And it's sad that people criticize you when you try to rise above that, like in your case. I'm glad you say it like it is 👍🏻👍🏻
Can't love this enough.
It was definitely a pleasure meeting and speaking with you on the Celebrity Reflection cruise on February 17, 2024.
I’m black and what you said I agree 💯. I’m actually get personally embarrassed when I see our own can’t control themselves.
Same here.
don't worry, you'll always have english tourists to compete with
@@maxmustermann-zx9yq 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm black too and we have to hold each other accountable. I agree with what he's saying too. Cruising is fun, did it for the first time not long ago, will be back.
@@starlaks588 You think it is a race issue and not a people issue? One person or a few does not paint the entire race.
Thank you Jay for addressing the elephant on the ship. The code of conduct, the culture, and the peaceful interactions between guests need to improve. No slobs and no snobs. Great video Jay!
If you want to hear about white people behaving badly listen to Cruising with Wheels on TH-cam. Frank tells amazing stories of loonies at sea. It is a character issue, not a race issue.
@@debrajenkins2598 he doesn't understand that. He will degrade black woman until kingdom come. I've seen a lot of white ppl act a fool at grocery stores & ballparks and nobody talks about it cause it doesn't fit a narrative
Hi @Tim Rodgers Interesting you mentioned "elephant in the room"; I've been talking about it since the 1st fight J posted. I already knew how it was going to be perceived, so I was pissed.
@@Ms.Opinionated m
No slobs or snobs thats going to be one empty ship.
Thank you for sharing your perspective...it needs to be heard and respected.
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you broaching this topic. It’s a hot button issue for sure, and to your point, that’s because we all need to do better. You’re a million percent correct in your ability to speak on the subject, which people like me from backgrounds other than yours can’t from first-hand experience. I grew up in a poor community, and I’m white, and I know how my community can behave at its worst in troublesome situations. I absolutely applaud your approach to broaching this topic from your own experience while making salient points about other social groups as well. Your perspective carries clout, and it gives permission to others to bring their constructive experiences to bear.
I’ve been fortunate to live in some far more diverse communities, and travel broadly from the largely white rural community I grew up in. I feel like you and I can share a sentiment that the world is so much larger than that, that we all have a place in it, and many people aren’t as well prepared to abide by the expectations that environments such as cruises introduce.
Thank you for putting yourself out there once again to make the point that we have more in common than not, and that behavior is rooted in so much more than the color of someone’s skin.
I’m from the sticks in rural Nor Cal (see also: “state of Jefferson”), but as I’ve had the privilege of exploring more of the world, it’s people who look like me that are more often the reason I cringe than people who do not.
I’ve lived in Sacramento, Oakland, NYC, SF, etc… and I crave the diversity those environments afforded me. Yet in my 40+ years on this planet, the people who have caused me the most harm have looked just like me, while the people who given me the most joy have not.
"Yet in my 40+ years on this planet, the people who have caused me the most harm have looked just like me, while the people who given me the most joy have not." I love this. Thank you.
As a white male in my early 50's growing up in Canada I don't have your frame of reference. I was raised to not judge people by their race or the colour of their skin and to judge them by their actions. I have seen bad behavior by people of many races and it has nothing to do with the colour of their skin. Thank you for your honesty and for being a great human.
I totally agree and made a similar comment earlier.....I could care less of people's color/ethnicities. It's how you present yourself and treat others and you should expect to be treated back accordingly......we all need to do better.....not sure how/when we get there though
Exactly, I have seen it all races.
Sadly, it's just an American thing! People carry so many past burdens from history that they are unable to let go. So anytime, you have a large groups of people with biases and prejudices which bubbles over when opposing views collide. It's tragic and wish people treat each other respectfully.
Douglas, what is your exposure to other races?
@@glenarledge1825 I live the the Lower Mainland of British Columbia, Canada which has people from every country in the world living here. My sister is married to a Man from India, my step brother is married to women who is from China. I work with people from Canada, India, Philippines, China, Caribbean, Mexico and Fiji. I would say that I have a lot of exposure to races and cultures other than my mine with my parents from England & Russia.
In my life I have been on a cruise ship twice. What bothers me is that I am sure that these types of things have happened many times over and black people weren't involved. Not once have I ever heard someone say maybe white people don't need to go on cruises. As a black man I get sick and tired of people acting as if something has never happened before until black people are involved. I wish the foolishness would just stop. There will always be things happening on a cruise ship because that's the unpredictable nature of people. I will be happy when it will be addressed as such and not a white, black, or any other race issue.
I've been on several cruises, the only time I've seen people about to fight was during a football game, 2 white guys, one was a Bears fan and the other was a Packers fan.
It's Happened More than You know...with other People of Race. Trust Me. I've cruised Alot
I couldn’t agree with you more Terrell…
Society is always typing to point fingers at people of color like the other side is perfect SMH. If there’s only these 3 or 4 situations that happened with people of color WELL! Then I think we’re doing AWESOME! Ijs
Well said.,I wonder if he'll be making a video about the whites behaving badly????
@@emperessdivine3617nope
Your candor is appreciated. There is always a small subset of people in every race and culture that lack the childhood training and maturity to behave properly.
All of my friends was always astonished by how my dad’s side of the family was so huge & never had drama at family events. My grandma has 7 children, 24 grandchildren & 15 great grandchildren. We just got off of a cruise. Going on another 1 in March together. November 2024 we’ll be on a Cousin’s cruise (18 and up only cousins😆)
We’ve always taken family vacations every year. No drama.
I agree with you can't put every black person in the same class. I've been cruising for 20yrs and never was involved in anything like this. Ignorance comes in all shades.
But most issues recently that causing trouble in cruises are mostly black unfortunately 😕
I like that phrase. Ignorance comes in all shades. 👍
What is the proportion of the culprits though?
@@ValMarty so... That's has nothing to do with me.
@@tilasole3252 That is a good question! Perhaps it is that incidents involving certain groups of people are publicized more frequently than incidents involving other groups of people. Trust me, there have been fights involving people of other races on cruise ships.
It’s so sad, this entire situation. As a very proud Black woman, raised by my parents to respect myself and others and NOT ACT A F**KING FOOL IN PUBLIC!!! The ONLY way I will lay hands on anyone is if they put mangey hands on my grandsons. Do that, and lights out.
Well Ms. Angelica Shield I was raised the same way, White peoples act up to. When I start Cruising in 1983 a white couple ask me where I get money to go on a cruise?????.
@@carolyngardner4999 seriously they asked you where you get the money to go on a cruise? That shocks me, it's none of their damn business , i see peoples hearts we all bleed we need to get along have a great time not be that way. I was raised middle class and always treated others way I want to be treated, moved to long beach ca had friends in compton went to dinner at friends relatives house never saw who was white black asian I never cared to hear this crap is horrible disrespecting another person in my book is sad sinful. You have a Blessed day and those idiots who say that crap ignore them ...idiots they are....they are no better than any of us.
@@carolyngardner4999 I'm white and have been asked that just because of the way I dressed , then laughed at . I don't own fancy clothes like they do . If you ever decide to take another cruise and someone makes a rude comment , report them and hopefully they will be removed from boarding .
@@carolyngardner4999 Lord, ignorance to the tenth power. Black people do have jobs, wealth, class and most importantly HOME DAMNED TRAINING!!! My husband and I are taking our two grandsons on HARMONY of the SEAS in October. Even they, at 10 and 7 have home training not to act a fool in public, mainly because they know me and I will get in that ass.
@@carolyngardner4999 you're upset at an entire group of people with a particular skintone over an incident that happened 39 years ago?
This is a topic that needed to be addressed. You did a great job of giving your viewpoint. When you respect yourself, you will in turn respect others...and it's that simple. I want to go on a cruise this year, but I will be careful to chose the right one. Thanks for the videos you've shared.
I would like you to know that I am a black woman, and I am truly blessed that you were out in the public eye conducting yourself as a young man not a black man, but as a young man and I think you for that, and yes, all races need to know how to act wherever they go and conduct themselves. I enjoy watching your videos. They are very uplifting and I like the honesty that you, Brain, may God be with you each and every day and thank you for being You.
Speaking as a black woman from the hood (South Bronx), I am so glad you chose to post a video about this and I feel you hit the nail right on the head. As a people we need to do better. No excuses, no victimizing ourselves, just do better. Seeing this made me feel so ashamed. You were brave, I didn't dare touch the comment section. My family and I just took our first cruise ever with RC on 7/1. Impoverished or not, we deserve the opportunity to have beautiful experiences. However, behavior like this is never ok. Paraphrasing what you said, unless someone slapped yo momma (😂🤦🏾♀️) there is no reason to show out like this.
And how was your first cruise ?
Yes, I want to know how was your first cruise? I hope you had the time of your lives!!
@@markw639 It was AMAZING! Thank you for asking. There was so much to do and see. We tried new foods, we snorkeled, saw a couple of shows; it was really great. We did a 3 night just to see how we would all tolerate being on the water overnight. Everyone was just fine. Our next cruise will definitely be a longer one.
@@tiffanycoach-brown3869 so glad you enjoyed it. My husband tolerates my love of cruising. He gets the patches behind the ear. We discovered on our honeymoon that she gets seasick on large ships.
@@sjplummer1 We definitely did! I can't wait to do it again. Planning one for just me and hubby as we speak, lol. We'll do a longer cruise with the kids next time though. There was so much to do for just 3 nights. It was a good introduction to the world of cruising though.
I’ve gotten a lot more tense around large crowds. I feel like society as a whole has left behind a lot of curtesy and kindness. It’s all “every man for themselves” these days :( it’s awful
I have noticed that since the pandemic people are in general engaging in bad behavior. I see it on the news where people are treating others poorly. Its so sad that we have become a nation known for bad behavior
Greed has set in, and these ships are becoming larger. Just thought of taking a cruise triggers the anxiety in me. I have never been on a cruise, and I am losing the desire for one. 😫🤷♀️
I’m definitely EMBARRASSED of how some of US act. My family and I planned a cruise for spring break and we will have our children on the ship. We want our children to experience a good time not have to look at ppl of our kind fighting on a vacation. When it’s suppose to be about family and having fun. 🙏🏾🙏🏾 Great video
“Do people need to do better? Yes!” You are a remarkable man and I am grateful to learn from you! Thank you.
It's not about race; it's about culture.
anyone with common sense knows this. Sad that he doesnt.
@@dionanthonymusic9279 don't understand your comment. It's like we watched two completely different videos... unless you based it on the title of the video and not the content of his words
What culture?
theres no culture called ghetto last time I checked... and ghetto applies to all races/cultures. Ghetto are behavior patterns based on the environment and people you are around. so if u live in the ghetto and are surrounded by ghetto people, then most likely you will be ghetto EVERYWHERE... u r a product of your environment, most of the time
@@vc7131 Funny Factoid;
Read Thomas Sowell's book Black Rednecks and White Liberals
Sowell's thesis "black ghetto" culture that too many blacks take pride in (keeping it real) originates in the dysfunctional white southern redneck culture, which was prominent in the antebellum South. That culture came from the "Cracker culture" of Welsh, Highland Scots, Ulster Scots, and border English or "North Britons," who emigrated from the more lawless border regions of Britain in the eighteenth century. That includes the ignorant-sounding "ebonics" Go to the working class parts of the UK, and they have the same self-destructive culture of poor blacks and whites in the US. I do not pretend to share the predominant worldview of the black voter. I'm an American FULL STOP. I share similar skin tone but that is not enough for me to have an allegiance to the "black community" outside of I hope folks can do better.
Evil, disrespectful, and lawless people will cause trouble everywhere they go.
Facts.
Well done! It's difficult to have tackled this issue and you did a great job!
I am a black woman and I just got back from a cruise. I feel the same way as you, Mr. Shiplife. The black people seem to need vacation therapy or coaching about how to act on a cruise ship. I saw a lot of gossiping. They were looking at people up, down and sideways and passing judgements. This was mostly the women. First of all, you are supposed to be on vacation to enjoy YOURSELF, and not worry about anybody else. Second, you don't know any of these people and you never know who you might need to help you in an emergency so why would you want to slight anybody?
You're seeing a very, very small segment of the cruising community when videos like this are posted. This happens to people of all colors and backgrounds. It doesn't matter where they came from.
This was important. I hope you’re feedback is more positive than you expected. I’m sad to see society as a whole very angry and easily riled. It’s frightening to me and gives me concern when in large crowds of any type.
I am going on my first cruise in about 2 weeks and I didn’t even consider bad behavior such as this on a cruise. Thank you for this!!
I was on a Carnival cruise a month ago and there were a few fights. And yes, it was us.
From my own travel experience as a Mexican a lot of issues come from going out of your comfort zone, novel and challenging environments, fatigue and fear of embarrassment. I was in the middle of London bickering with my sister over where a bus stop is because we were struggling with a heavy schedule and a difficult bus system etc. You have all these things converge and it gets wild. We also grew up extremely disadvantaged and lived in our truck for 3 yrs in California due to housing prices and we lived in many trailers in our small home town. Over the years with experience we have become better travelers and plan things out in a more realistic way. It takes all people as the saying goes. Oh I had years of speech therapy and do not sound Mexican so I can relate to that as well.
Dude, I owe you a big apology. I was judgmental towards you last year on one of your videos. I totally understand where you are coming from regarding this touchy subject. And as a black man myself who loves to cruise (just came off the CARIBBEAN PRINCESS), I get what you’re saying. My parents were unable to afford to take my brother and I on a cruise and back then, I accepted the fact that they wouldn’t be able to. So many of our people are the first ones to earn decent salaries that allow us to take swank vacations. I was on the CARNIVAL MAGIC in August 2019 and some of the younger passengers (black teens) were dancing inappropriately on the Lido Deck. In front of older people and kids. The DJ had to stop the music for a minute to ask them to stop with the dirty dancing. I’ve also seen white kids on the CARNIVAL VICTORY (now RADIANCE) in 2001 behaving badly and the crew had to physically handle them. Sometimes I think that it’s just American culture nowadays.
And I have also been accused of trying to be white because of the way I speak and behave. You do you. Not that you need to hear that- you seem to be very confident and you don’t seek outside validation from anyone! 👍
Now I’m done ranting and I’m subscribing to this channel. Happy cruising!
I know it's been a months since you made this comment and you may have even forgotten about this whole video. I just wanted to say that I find it admirable that you were able to apologize for your judgement toward this gentleman and then proceed to find some common ground. So many people just simply cannot say they are sorry about anything. This man didn't even know how you felt and you still acknowledged you were wrong and apologized. That's really admirable and a great example. I can I just say that your Grammer, punctuation and all that were a pleasure to read. My husband never punctuates and it drives me insane lol! Great comment!
Well said!
Cruises are the cheapest vacations tho
@@niyab5649 When you take into consideration that most things like food, entertainment, service, use of lovely facilities are included, yes cruises can be the most economical way to travel. It depends on how much you spend on your cabin (suites usually cost way more than cabins), your travel, and any extra expenses like shore excursions, photographs, spa services and of course, alcohol! If you are not careful, money can quickly add up on a cruise.
Love this comment. I hate in that in todays world everything has to be stereotypical or raciest.
I'm a Black professional who saved lives when I'm not on vacation, who loves to do cruises. I've never been poor, went to private schools and never wanted for anything. On my last cruise out of California a Caucasian man shoved me in the cashier's line at the casino, looked at me at stated, "what?", like he wanted to start something. I walked back in front of him, stated to the cashier, "he jumped the line", and proceeded to take care of my business. Lots of people, regardless of their nationality in the pass 6 years gave lost of their everloving minds. The pandemic, not to mention blatant, hateful, disrespectful people have been running amok and many face no repercussions for their actions. As long as I can pay for my cruises, I'm going. SCOTUS hasn't taken that away from me yet! IJS
As a white woman......or better yet, a woman in general, had I seen him do that to you, I would've been said something to him about the way he was treating a woman. Not skin color. A woman. The idiot was probably drunk, not that it excuses his rudeness. I'm sorry he did that to you. No man, no matter what color, should do that to a woman. I'm glad you handled it like you did. He could've gotten in a lot of trouble for assaulting you and he probably didn't even realize it.
This is sad and I’m sorry you went through that! This world is a crazy place!
Baby murderer.
I WOULD HAEV PRESSED CHARGES FOR ASSAULT
I'm black and I am embarrassed by the behavior of other black people in public. I'm secure in my skin but I hate to see people who act out.
You know. Sometimes I forget how nice it is to have the perspective of treating people as individuals, instead of groups. I do really think that's one of the biggest problems in this day and age and I often lament how many times people that would get along well don't because of all these preconceptions, racial, gender, clothing, etc. It's always refreshing to hear a perspective like this because even though the world seems to get more and more combative and divisive every day, it's good to remember that we don't have to act that way. Sometimes, I swear, it just gets depressing the number of times I've realized where the stereotypes have held me back and I'm sure they hold other people back. I've lost friends (or at least people that I thought were friends), family, lots of people because of statements about the "group" that I "belong" to and I don't even think that I have it that bad in that department. I just think the world is getting infected with a sick mindset. No one knows how to respect anyone anymore. I just think that we should all try and deprogram ourselves and treat people as blank slates until we get to know them. I get so tired of the qualifying language that you often hear people say, "well, as a white man, ..." or "as a person of color..." or whatever group someone wants to identify with. I understand why people would use those qualifying statements for certain political or societal conversations, but half the time, it's about what they like/dislike or how they feel. I find this very disturbing and try to avoid it whenever I can because I believe it's your personality and experiences that define who you are, not other people's personalities or experiences. I just want to speak to people, not monolithic representations of vast groups that no one person could ever truly understand. I often find that there's some weird robotic need for categorization among people now that kind of makes them try to not think, speak, or act for themselves and also causes them to try to re-interpret the lens of individuals, their actions, their choices, and their worth through the eyes of whatever group they belong to. I'm not even always saying that they do this in a bad ways. A lot of times there are a lot of positive stereotypes, too, but it just disconnects people. I know many of the conversations that people have had they for some reason assumed that I was wealthy because I was white, and I think this is probably one of the more positive things that someone could assume about a person. That being said, there's still a hollowness and an emptiness behind it, whether the assumption is positive or negative, because you are dealing with someone who doesn't actually want to get to know you and have ideas in their head about who they think you are that prevent that from happening. I'm really hoping we can turn the ship around, to be honest. I'd just rather have better interactions with everyone without going through the social programming of assumptions, and while I freely admit I don't have all the answers for all of society's problems, I'm not a politician and I'm not trying to save the world, unlike most people these days. I just think that the best way that we can all live our lives is to ignore these labels and live life based on our own experiences and treat people based on our experiences with them. Maybe I'm just naive, but I really do think that by being open to each other, we'll discover more friendships, opportunities, and have more good experiences to help make the world a better place. Sometimes I think that people are so focused on how other people are acting that they never actually bring any change about in the world because they never focused on how they acted. No matter how much they claim they want it. Far more good will be done in the world by the way you interact with people than how you choose to tell others to live. Still, it is a sad conversation to even need to have and I think that you really handled it with class and I appreciate the perspective in this video! One of my favorite quotes ever has stuck with me since I was a kid from the Iron Giant, "you are who you choose to be." As such, I don't choose to be white, I don't choose to be male, and I don't really want to be treated that way because it wasn't ever really a part of who I am, just the body I inhabit. I think the world could fix a lot of its problems if everyone tried to live that way and see people that way. I know it's probably not going to change, but that's the only way it ever really seems to get any better.
As a crew member currently onboard a ship, the crazy things that come out of these guests mouths is UNREAL!!
There's a lot of African-Americans that cruise and have not won problem aboard a cruise ship so do not blame a whole ethnicity for the actions of a few
@@elizabethjackson This is very true. Similar to not blaming the current generation of caucasians for what was done in the past by what was probably not even our ancestors.
I have black friends and colleagues. But they were all born and raised in Africa.
And they more respectful and humble than the average American.
🙄🙄🙄
Great video, and continued success. You are a great example for people of any color. Keep up the good work.
Well said as a black woman, I love the way you put the video together because not all Black people are the same just like other races aren’t the same and you can’t group us into one box, what someone does doesn’t make it relevant to every single person in that race, I have been on plenty of cruises with my family and friends, and never had any issues and will continue to cruise as well. Drama free
I have met a lot of lovely people of all races on cruises, and they have all been on Carnival.
Well said, we all need to do better. It's not about race but being decent human beings and learning to be in control of our emotions no matter who we are or the color of our skin. We as humans need to stop categorizing others. God made us all, let's respect one another and enjoy the journey wherever it may Sail us!!!
@@jacquelynbellinger7915 100%. Here in Australia, our kids (white) are brought up these days to be so bloody entitled. No respect at all. No manners at all. It is terrible. We went to our local Hungry Jacks recently and the white girl who served me was so bloody rude. Not one HELLO or HOW ARE YOU, THANK YOU, NOTHING. I had the drinks shoved out the window at me. Not one word was spoken by this bloody girl. I was then left in the drive thru for 10 minutes waiting with not one explanation or apology for the delay. So when she finally came with my order and just shoved it at me and turned away, I actuallycalled her back and pulled her up on her lack of customer service and lack of manners when serving customers and told her if I was her boss, she would not have a job. Then we went to our local McDonalds and there was this black girl serving, who was also the manager and she was so lovely. Very polite, helpful and a pleasure to be served by. I commented on her great service and told her that she needs to go up to Hungry Jacks and teach their staff how to interact with their customers and how to actually give service. I am white and married to a black man (Nigerian) for 15 years. People are very quick to judge black people, but honestly, WHITE PEOPLE disgust me in our country, Australia. We have turned into the most arrogant, self entitled shit heads in the world. Australia is totally "F***ED" which is very sad to say.
@@jacquelynbellinger7915 Amen! Humans in general need to do better.
@@MicheeeeeObiMrs Once at McDonald's, I stood back from the register, looking over the menu. The young black girl behind the counter asked me "Are you just gonna stand there or are you gonna order something?". She nearly got her ass beat, but I made the smart decision to walk away. My point? I don't blame all black kids for that rude little shit. That's the point the OG commenter AND the poster of this video was trying to make, that you can't blame a whole for the few. Went right over your head, though.
Stereotypes are low vibrational to say the least. Ignorance comes in ALL ethnicities, EVERY.SINGLE.ONE. You add youth, closed quarters, and liquor, violence, be it physical or intimate, are sure to follow unless it is checked quickly. Cruise ships are what needs to do better with security, period. I am a middle aged so called Black woman and one of the first cruises I went on in my 30s a young white female was sitting on the steps, with no pants or underwear on, clearly had been violated, and none of her “white “ friends were around to help her. She was obviously drunk and it was my “Black” friends and myself who got her safely to security. And for the record according to her her assailant was white. Does that mean ALL white young men are female violators? OF COURSE NOT! My point is ignorance is as individual as finger prints. I don’t want to be around this stuff no matter what ethnicity is the perpetrator. People know how to act appropriately when they know they will be handled appropriately. I will pay more for a ship that has the correct amount of security to deal with issues like these that happen on board.
Well said!
Agree whole heartedly . Specifically how does the cruise ship security improve ? Should they carry stun guns so they are more threatening and perhaps then head off problems before they start ?
How about everyone give there thumb print before boarding and match it to passport. Then if someone is banned for life it has a real consequences. Or possibly it stops wanted criminals from boarding in the first place. It definitely would let people know their actions on bourd would still follow them ( hopefully for life )
Would you give your thumb print boarding ?
BTW, I have discussed this issue with Carnival and Royal Captains as well as M. Bailey . They really liked the idea, but were afraid passengers would not.
Totally agree. We'll said.
@@lawjones2177 More and more terminals are doing facial recognition for the security scans now. That will absolutely give them the ability to industry-wide bans and even cross reference with no-fly lists.
Be careful out there folks - if you want to a A-hat that can really follow you around these days. Some of y'all can't fly anymore because you threw an tantrum over masks - and that can easily carry over to cruising too if the lines they decide they don't want headaches on board.
Thank you!!!!!!!
Certain black people shouldn't cruise. We are not ALL the same. I myself would rather be around an International crowd.
Thank you so much for sharing on this topic!!
Why would he think he would catch flack for this video? He came at this from a solid perspective, and gave a nice calm honest perspective. Very nice video!
We need more people like you who can talk openly and honestly about things like this! Peace!
It won't help. Rich white liberals and the media will shut you up and/or degrade you.
My wife and I noticed the subtle changes that were happening with Carnival cruises. We have switched over to celebrity. We keep trying to get away from the ghetto. And the ghetto keeps following us.
You did a good job explaining this and as a white person I have seen white people that embarrassed me by their actions. The society we live in has a lack of respect for people, places and their actions, I enjoy what you do with these reports. God Bless You!
It’s a shame!!! I am black myself and to see people acting like idiots doesn’t matter what color is mortifying. I agree that the trouble makers should be arrested, dropped off at the next port and be banned for life. This is just ridiculous!!! Who go on a vacation to fight?!!!!
Very well spoken Jay. I’m very proud of your bravery to tackle this difficult subject. I’ll admit, I dropped my head in shame as I viewed all the fight videos. My only thought was “not us again”. I would never want to ever associate with any of those people, let alone cruise with them and I’m black. Just the idea that people would judge our culture because of those idiots made me very angry and disappointed. Thank you for your prospective because it reminded me that there are good and bad people in every nationality and racist will always generalize people of color no matter what happens.
There are good & bad in ALL races. Be proud of you, I am! I wouldn't want to cruise with them either, I don't like drama & fighting! However, there will usually be a fight on most ships, folks just don't bring out their phones quick enough to record.....seen many times, but they get broken up before "security" gets there. Just be the "best you", that you can/want to be. I think Jay did a fantastic job in this video!
Babe! Most all of us feel the same way! Always be kind to others.
Yes I have definitely made that same comment it can be disturbing because we know there are nice generous and respectful people and this not a good representation so yes I tend to drop my head at times too
Very well said. I couldn't have said it better myself ❤️❤️❤️❤️
It only recently been "us" guess that's why it is news. Some people really don't want "us" on the ship at all.
I avoid that cruise line due to the classless behavior. I’ll gladly pay more to avoid the brawls and general low class environment
Gotta appreciate your transparency and courage to speak on these topics…been rocking with u since the days of the Dilla intro! 💯💯
The conversation needed to happen and thank you for being the one to say it! Social graces and etiquettes are learned behaviors. Yes many of us came from humble beginnings but there are many who took the time to learn how to present themselves better, speak better, behave in a way that is more socially acceptable. That doesn't mean we forgot where we came from. I have for much of my life been accused of "speaking white" or asked where I was from because of my diction and language skills. I hail from East Baltimore, Maryland and proud of it but I don't carry that as some badge of honor or disgrace. I have learned that I love the finer things in life and I pursue them. That isn't acting white. I have found myself in circles with the highly educated and they can be just as ignorant and crass as a kid from East Baltimore. So I repeat social graces and etiquettes are learned if you choose to direct your life on that path. Just because I'm from the hood doesn't mean I'm doing HOOD Shhh all the time and just because someone holds multiple degrees or comes from money doesn't make them better than me or more socially acceptable. My mom always said act like you have some sense out in these streets and don't embarrass me! I ran with that. A whole lot of other folks need that lesson. Stop acting like you don't have sense and embarrassing the folks that raised you to do better and be better. It's a choice!
I agree with a lot of what you're saying. But not having learned social graces? Some of the stuff I have seen just goes without saying. It doesn't need to be taught. Things like yelling cuss words in front of kids, throwing cups of soda across the restaurant, stealing, cutting the line, constantly acting rude to strangers, grown people screaming on the bus about small matters or slight annoyances. Do people really need to be sat down and taught that these things are wrong?
@@StopMakingEveryoneDumb it's reactive behavior practiced in a hostile environment all of ones life. Most likely from abusive and broken families where abuse is normal child rearing. People on edge not realizing they have PTSD. Prepared for battle to defend themselves in violence for no reason anymore. I have a sister who is always just waiting to be criticized with a chip on her shoulder. Ask her why she is always so angry and everything she said sounds like she is arguing and she will get defensive. She has been on guard so long she doesn't know what it would feel like to not be on guard. Expecting that everyone is out to get her or take her dignity or some part of who she is away from her. So, yes, they know it's wrong on some level but it has been the norm all their lives. Triggered people are in places of insanity for that moment. Sadly, it's no longer exclusive to poor but I see it now more then ever even in wealthy people. Just say a political name they hate and they go crazy and will throw things and curse and fight in front of children.or anyone. A distorted self defense program.
Generally, I avoid cheap things because there is a higher possibility of "cheap" people being around and that's regardless of color. When I saw you were taking that cheapest cruise I knew there would be nonsense lol. But we as Black people do need to do better and need to call eachother out on our bs without being labeled a c**n. I'm glad you made this video.
PREACH
REGARDLESS OF COLOR-thank you
You nailed it.
Same
People need to be called out regardless of their skin color. We need to take the skin color out of our conversations and just start calling bad people out.
You are being very truthful. Yes black folks in general need to behave better on cruise ships and everyone!!
Sorry. Everywhere
I’m black and have been cruising since I was 7. I’ve been on 11 cruises so far (12 in October). I personally have never experienced any type of drama on cruises. Probably because I tend to avoid those low cost cruises with Tom, Dick & Harry. Thank you for making this video because the black community does need to be held accountable for their poor decisions, but also I’ve seen a lot of ratchet white people from no where Kentucky on cruises that also need to get their act together. Some people just aren’t used to anything and I cant stand when they act entitled.
The internet makes everything look evil and always, but in reality, like you after 20+ cruises I have seem very few criminal acts.
So basically he said.... Most fights on cruise ships are caused by black people. Yet that doesn't mean all black people shouldn't sail. The first part is all the honesty you need.
I totally agree!!!
Being Black myself I mentioned in the comments that it's "Us again". Simply to identify the shame I feel when I see "Us acting foolishly". "Us" doesn't mean ALL of us. Maybe I'm to blame for using the "Us" in my statements...I am simply taking ownership for the matching skin color NOT the foolishness. In relationships we should be careful when using "all inclusive statements". In particular the statements: YOU ALWAYS and YOU NEVER😂. So you're right Jay it's never all of US, no matter the color or nationality. And yes we need to do better.💯.
Unfortunately we often let the worst of “us” define us. That goes for just about anything…race, sex, nationality, and even profession. I honestly believe that 95% of all people are awesome if you get to talk to and get to know them. However that 5% is who creates the divisions and stereotypes
I agree 100%!
I relate to what you are saying… from another group perspective… being a Christian… and you see others from the group do and say things which are simply shameful and reflect badly on the larger group… I feel some responsibility to try and make better their actions even though I/we as a whole did nothing wrong. Its always the few bad stories that circulate. Wish we were better as humans insisting on circulating the more realistic picture. People are inherently good and try to do good and if we focus on highlighting those stories we will be a much more unified society in shutting down those few who have not gotten with the “treat others the way you want to be treated” mentality!
I'm a white man living in Missouri. Unfortunately I'm very used to rolling my eyes and saying "it's us again".
No, people who do wrong need to do better!!!!!! White, black, brown, pink !!!!!! It does not matter the COLOR!!!!!!!
Love your videos Jay. Not because you are black or in spite of you being black. I love them because you are real, relatable and seem like a nice person. Ignore the haters if you can. There are many more of us who would love to be on the same cruise with you than those that wouldn’t. Unfortunately the haters are more loud and obnoxious so you hear them over us. How boring would cruising be with only a bunch of over 60 white people like my husband and me? Nope, everyone should be welcome.
Agree
SL: Excellent discussion on this topic. You have a great channel, keep up your good work!
Brother, This subject needs to be discussed more. I am so glad that you brought this to light and I applaud you for this video. I have been in several environments where things didn't go well involving some of "our" people. And again, I state that they are a product of their environment. But once we know better, we should do better. Thanks again and I look forward to more discussion on the topic.
Thank you for addressing this, it is an uncomfortable discussion. I took my 11 year old on his first cruise this past November on the Conquest. I had to call security because there was a bloody fight outside our room at 2:30am. On another occasion there was a moment in the elevator that was a bit scary, so it was a disappointment. I noticed the bad behavior happening with both races, and it was a disappointment. Some people can’t handle their alcohol.
I am a bit concerned, and confused by what you mean when you say “both” races. Surely you can’t be so sadly mistaken to think there are only 2 races of people? What did you mean?
@@DriftWizard750 great point, thanks for pointing that out, this was my mistake. It came off wrong, I apologize. I am aware of more than two races, as my family is Arab. The issues I saw on this cruise happened with Caucasian and African Americans, this is what I meant. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I did not mean to offend anyone.
@@DaisyGirl007 no worries, my apologies. Thanks for responding.
Fingers 🤞 crossed. I will sail the Conquest this month. My recent cruise on the Sunrise in November...it was all races being hostile and aggressive.
@@DaisyGirl007 Shuttup fool
When you see people as groups, we all lose! We need to see people as individuals!
except when it relates to russians and chinese.
Tell that the CRT mob.
Those two sentences are very profound and so so insightful and accurate. I agree, wholeheartedly!
What a silly comment, it's groups (not individuals) that effect everybody else. In the UK only 3% of the population is black, yet they commit 80% of all street crimes, and you don't want to see them as a group. It's soft touches like you that has enabled groups like this to turn our country to shit. Nobody is saying all people within a certain group are bad, but to ignore basic statistics is just plain dumb.
@@JenAmazed42 You literally think groups of people that show behavioral traits and indifference to everyone else, should be seen as individuals, are you completely MAD.
Thanks for addressing this. It had to be a struggle for you to decide to talk about this. Glad you did.
There is no “acting white”
There is only acting educated, or acting ignorant.
It's incredibly frustrating and infuriating how the subtle and overt racism people not have but openly share in YT comments continues to permeate. Thanks for shining a light on this topic.
I 100% agree… Thank you for watching Matt!🙏🏾⚓️
I'm Black and come from humble beginnings also and I was taught how to properly conduct myself in public... It's been my experience that people who behave this way, like to travel in groups
You handled this topic excellently, truth can be hard to hear at times and you got the point across with grace. You are so right, people no matter who you are, we have to do better!
I totally agree. I saw a video where two of our black women started fighting on a plane. The white pilot came out to break them up and ended up hitting one of the women. A lot of commentors said he shouldn't have put his hands on her. But my take on it was that if these women hadn't been acting a fool in public, he would have never been involved. A lot of people cussed me out for my opinion, but I still stand by it. If you don't know how to act, stay home!!!
Spot on and well said. EVERYONE needs to do better. I have been on 33 cruises and thankfully have not had to encounter those kinds of situations on any of my cruises or be involved personally. Thankfully, this isn't a normal thing that happens.
J, I completely understand and support your comments. As an African-American businesswoman, my head drops when our people are caught in these situations and make the news. It’s uncomfortable and makes all of us look bad! And yes all ethnic groups have circumstances when ethnic shame is on full display. Your comments and terminology including “humble beginnings,” help shape the perspective that create these unfortunate situations. Keep up the great work and good luck with your cruise and travel career path.
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Does every mass and school shooter being white make white people look bad? How about all the preist molesting kids?
Try not to take the negative actions of black people as your personal burden to bear...Think. Jan 6, school shootings, wars etc, etc...do white people feel the same when major atrocities are committed by their own? Its not personal.
Do you think white people think the same thing when they see other people acting a fool? They don’t, so you shouldn’t either. We don’t have a damn thing to prove to anyone else as a community. Just worry about yourself.
@@andrewDaMack EXACTLY!!!
Exactly
It is my understanding that I and my black-Mexican son (8) should never feel inferior to NO ONE. As he grows I continue to tell and teach him about our world and what NOT to do. We began our cruising journey about two years ago and I make sure to show him right/wrong as best as I can.
I too come from great humblings and I was the second I my family to get a grad degree. I’ve also been called “whitey” wannabe because of how I speak, interpret or see things differently.
I know who the bump I am, as you, so I feel the pain.
We were dirt poor in Opalocka, Fl but we (siblings and I) had the tenacity and drive to make a difference.
Thank you, this shit needs to be talked about.
And our counterparts are not exempt, some of their behavior it’s off the hook as well but they get passes more than us. 🥴😘
Keep it moving!
Yes, this topic needed to be addressed. One of the things that bother me is that people seem to assume all black people like rap.
Hi Jay, being a 65 year old white woman, who is still in the lower income bracket. I never thought of someone of color different than me. I believe that you are you I am me. I treat you as I would like to be treated. Thank you for your time enlightening me. I have been able to cruise because I worked hard and saved my money. I figured everyone did that too. Enjoy your life!! You have worked hard for it and I respect that.
Bruh! I'm blackty, black black and you're on POINT! I pray and wish that my people would conduct themselves NOT for any other demographic but for our self culture. We are so talented , well educated , there's nothing we can't accomplish ( it's been proven) except banning together or showing this world we're UNIFIED but obviously we rather show our azz. Good content and salute.
That first line! 😂💀
Ty stop trying to be racist
Banning?? I think you mean, "banding"...yes?
@@blaineedwards8078 Yes..but you got the point....yes?
Stay black on CB4
I enjoy your content and appreciate you sharing your dxperiences with us. I admire how ppl can make videos, exposing themselves to all the ppl with access to the content. It is always amazing to see hio ppl move forward thru life, embracing and enduring, regardless of their originating circumsrances. Thanks for the inspiration. 😊
I’m new to your channel and you seem to be nailing your topics. Fascinating. Thank you!
I agree wholeheartedly. I am a Black Woman. I’m college educated and grew up poor. The fact that you have to even address this from a race point of view is sad. I deal with so much racism on a daily basis that I’m numb to it. There have been several brawls on ships over the years involving white ppl, so for anyone to make this generalization it is sick. P.S using proper grammer is not “speaking white,” it’s being educated and professional.
This is absurd crazy people comes in all colors I’m white and we have crazy people too
Thank you for pointing out that proper grammar isn’t “speaking white.” There’s a way we speak to strangers and a way we speak to close friends/family. Being professional in a professional or a formal setting shows education & intelligence, not race or even culture.
I'm so glad that you spoke on this topic. I do think when something seems to be an "us" issue that needs to be addressed "in house." I have not taken my first cruise yet (Feb 2023) but my guilty pleasure is fine dining and why I have not witnessed any physical altercations in these environments, I have witnessed some of my people not knowing how to "read the room" to understand that certain environments don't call for certain behaviors. To your point, poverty causes such limited exposure to different environments/experiences. That coupled with lack of conflict resolution skills (depending on the age group could have been learned via reality TV) is a recipe for disaster. While these things shouldn't seem like an excuse, it is a factor and I'm glad you pointed it out so I can be careful of my judgment of others. My mom always told me to not assume that everyone was raised the same and taught to know better because you don't know if they come from which speaks to what you said about people being raised and trauma. I honestly think this needs to be a more robust conversation and I would love to see other content creators share their thoughts but this was definitely a much-needed conversation for all audiences. Good job Jay!
"Read the Room" Love it!
Your income has nothing to do with your manners, neither does your race.
Great video my guy... great perspective, honest , truthful and needed...
Jay, I agree with you 100%. Everyone can do better, but as we all know the spotlight is always on us. Always keep speaking your truth.
Thank you! I am a 70+ year old white man. I couldn’t say all the intuitive things you presented in your video because I am white and would be labeled a racist. Our country seems to sensationalize black vs black problems. Listening from a self educated American that is also black is terrific! To bad your voice does not go on national television over and over!
I am a black woman and agree with your take on this topic. The balance, in my opinion, was rare and refreshing.
Man I love your videos and your great content