The fact that both the female host and female legal correspont casually referred to the illustration of 'a Cougar chasing young men,' is abhorrent and disgusting. This is literally part of the reason so many men have a hard time feeling bad for women who commit such acts while repeating a traumatic cycle. They are not young men, they are BOYS. What transpired us obviously much mmore than simply 'taking it too far.' This video clip was disgusting.
She used her allegedly abusive husband as her excuse to sexually abuse 15 year old boys? Wtaf is wrong with people. That smirk on her face in the mug shot says a lot. Lock her up.
I’m curious if the hubby knew she has this boy fetish, and maybe that’s why he kept telling her “their marriage will be over if she doesn’t come with him” 🤷♀️ but she is a creep!
I found out from someone who used to take those photos that they can't help it, and she explained that a lot of people just instinctually do that for pictures. It's just a Pavlov effect basically. She said they would snap back to being miserable most of the time.
@@kingjoseph5901This. These kind of people don’t just start doing this with strangers, they’ve done it before to “loved ones” and close friends and gradually become more bold each assault. Sickos.
Even her striking up conversation with them in a hot tub is inappropriate, talking to them about her marriage. It was inappropriate from the absolute second it began.
The content of the conversation was inappropriate but striking up a conversation with the kids isn't. But getting into a hot tub with them was also not ok.
Why is the host and the guest being so careful about the words they use to describe this woman? This isn’t “cougar mentality” it’s straight up predatory behavior and YES, she’s also a stalker! If this was a man it would be a simple conversation
same thing i said. it just goes to show how woman truly dont see these act like how it would be if it was man smh. no accountability when its woman doing these things
Yeaaa...This channel does that sometimes. I honestly gave up saying anything anymore, but it's annoying. There's another video they titled as a victim /minor having an affair with her foster dad...she was groomed and assaulted. Thats assault not an affair.
I totally agree with you gender biasness and double standards by the USA justice system again so what really the use of this age of consent law when it being used unfairly by the justice system against men 🤔
@@kingjoseph5901 For the longest time this behavior wasn't even illegal. Even if it was, it was swept under the rug, ignored, tolerated, or even praised.
@@scottcharney1091- no it wasn’t all you have to do is look up records of men who’ve gone to prison for the same thing. it’s a very long list now the sentencing might be shorter, but that’s because that’s a lot is written. In that case you go to your politicians through the ones you pass and make laws.
There is a difference between a 15 year old and a 7 year old. I have known 15 year old guys over 6 ft with a beard. And that's not even illegal in a lot of places. 18 isn't the universal age of adulthood.
15 year old is a man. Not a child. The number placed is arbitrary, and it is done so that older people do not abuse the young, but it doesnt diminish the fact that they are still men at that age.
@@davidmuller1958 Our brains don't stop growing until we're 23+ they are emotionally children. They will have major issues. They will wonder what's wrong with their lives. And this will be to blame for a lot of it. Trust me.
@danjquiroz yet somehow "children" have been going to war for millenia, and somehow we are still a strong species. Its only now we are limiting due studies. Wont change that we are animals still
@@davidmuller1958 15 years old are not men/women, that's a ridiculous thing to say, and you just sound suspicious to be honest. If you feel attracted to "men" (or "women") of 15 years old, you need help asap
I played hockey growing up...and I'll tell you first hand, women like this at her age are not rare when it comes to young boys who play hockey. As we were a team that traveled a lot, we were in hotels a lot. And the amount of older women that we just called 'Milfs' because any woman over 25, that's what they were to us at that age. These women would throw themselves, be vulgar...you name it. It was insane. But to us it was normal because it happened so much. Even me and a teammate of mine were staying with a guest family for a season in HS and the guest Mom of that family got us both secret gifts for Christmas. And those gifts were two matching male thongs, that she wanted us to wear for her. When I tell u this isn't uncommon.....its wild
Get real Milty! You KNOW you would have been all about it. Don't be jealous cause no one wanted you @ 15 😂 These dudes were those dudes... hockey studs who she got turned on by seeing them half naked I'd say don't hate the players, but these snitches embarrassed themselves after having their way. No honor, no class on their part
And the fact shes a mom herself makes this even more alarming! She's clearly a stalker too. She said she didn't know they didn't want her at the game. They tell her the games over and they lost but she went ahead and showed up anyway? No, it had nothing to do with her not realizing they didn't want her there....she was going anyway, regardless of what they wanted. She's a true narcissist! It's all about her and what she wants. Period.
Um,the guest just said,"younger men"!!!🤨These are NOT younger men,they are MINORS!!!!!😱Throw the book at the evil woman;she is a CRIMINAL!!!!!💯Hope she goes to jail for years!!!!💯She is a disgusting human being🤮&her husband should divorce her&get full custody of their kids.👍
Not saying the situation is the same, but when I was in youth group we went to Gatlinburg every winter. We had chaperones but once it was time to go to your rooms (curfew) we never saw them again until the morning. Usually only 4 adults max to watch over 20+ kids. We all would go back and forth to eachother's rooms and they had no idea. Only thing they did was just not room girls and boys in the same room.
I really want stats here. These True Crime videos make it really seem that we've been underestimating how often women do this for . . . basically all of history, which seems likely, but are there actual numbers? There seems to be a big increase in reporting lately.
I'm 34 and have a 15 year old son so YES this 38 year old is plenty old enough to be their mother, this lawyer needs to stop worrying about being offensive with her words and just come out with it
Realistically? Legally? Not much.... i think yall wanna convince yourself that we throw the book at male perps but we... dont. Its disgusting tbh. Most r*pists, regardless of gender, get away with it.
Nah baby girl, they aren't children. They're young men, chock full of test and ready to rock. It happens all the time, but most boys aren't snitching bicches like those fools
hahaha I completely agree. I didn't know, but one day i dated a woman, we were both around 35 at the time. She only used snapchat she told me, so she asked me to install it just to chat with her. Found it odd, but of course i was ignorant and naive, i'm a bit old fashioned :) Later I found out she was in a relationship. DUHHH :-D
i mean to a certain extent i guess; my mom has snapchat and she uses it to communicate w specific people aswell as its a place to save videos/pics. and in all honesty, snapchat wasnt meant for kids😂snapchat was literally meant for explicit adult activities.
Ehh not necessarily. I am 35 and while the only time i use snapchat is to let my toddler look at himself with a funny filter on but 90% of my peers have snap chat. Now what is weird to me is women my age acting 18 on social media like all the vulgar rap song quotes, crop tops and booty shorts (3 sizes too small), or obsessed with tik tok. Tik tok is more juvenile in my opinion. Like the comment above, snapchat wasn't meant for kids.
Gee, I wonder why she’s having problems in her marriage…? I wonder if this is enough for the husband to divorce her. I can’t believe she did this when her husband and kids were right in the same hotel! Not that it would be any better if it were somewhere else, it’s just even more surprising.
@@DeBotCherry I imagine in her mind she's "sexually liberated", not taking advantage of teenage boys too immature to recognize the gross power imbalance there. (Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against two consenting ADULTS getting involved, but these kids are well below the age of consent)
Unfortunately he's probably going to give her more chances. He was in that probable cause report remember? He saw her with the boys in the got tub and told her if she didn't get out then they were over, he left, came back later, gave her the same ultimatum a second time, then just went back upstairs by himself, I feel like he must not have much self respect. Edited to say that he probably already knew about the junior hockey player that she cheated on him with as well.
WTF is wrong with these women taking advantage of kids who more than likely have never had to deal with these types of feelings and emotions that she pressured on them. Lock her up. She is a sick woman.
I'm guessing for the kids, and they've probably been married for over 10 years. I'm guessing if they didn't have kids and it was a recent marriage he would have noped out of that relationship.
She thought these young boys would be an easy target but the rejection made her obsessive. She definitely deserves jail time. If she got what she wanted that night, most likely she would’ve left them alone after that. She’s more focused on them than her own family. 🤮
As a 16 yo , i got stalked by a 28 yo man , using violence he got what he wanted then it continued, threats ect , he got put away but i can't put away of what happened. It's a horror to live with .
Oh geez, I'm so sorry that happened to you, the assault and the violence. As men, I often think we don't put ourselves in women's shoes (well, not literally) and think about just how stressful it must be walking around having to question the intentions of every unknown man you encounter. I live in a college town, and am a fairly big guy, most people might find me intimidating, so if I'm walking and see a college girl I will specifically give her a wider berth (though not that it matters most of the time they're oblivious and staring at their phone).
eight months in jail?!!! That's it? If this were a man and girls he'd be sitting in prison for many years. Unbelievable. She will be out and do it again.
being 15, a boy and going through the physical experience with a friends mom, it wasn't a "traumatic" experience whatsoever... Now let's bring into the equation "LAW ENFORCEMENT / ATTORNEYS / COURT, etc..." Now the psychological and emotional issues are created... something that felt kinda strange and would have surely become a fading memory become a life changing event because police and lawyers entered the picture. what was only known to have happened between a few kids, and at worst a rumor among a few others became publicly known to the entire community those kids live in. So who's causing more damage to these young people? a mixed up housewife with a few hours of regrettable actions, or the over educated , morally deficient legal professionals who will subject the teens to hundreds of hours of confusing and embarrassing situations that will forever be connected to there subconscious sexually.
Yeah i also had an experience with a woman in her early 30s when I was 15 and I've always genuinely cherished that memory so much. It also gave me tons of confidence because I didn't feel like just another clueless kid my age that only experienced a woman through a computer screen.
This is a horrible crime. Those boys just lost their childhood, they will NEVER regain their innocence. Only deeply disturbed adults want to do things like this with little kids smh!
Maybe youth of today different but at 15 i was no kid. Left school Easter after i turned that age and by the end of the year was working' smoking. drinking in pubs. in bookie shops gambling on the horses., no longer a virgin as i lost that to a lady slightly younger than this one at a Christmas party in the office i was working. She was around 30 but i did not ask as it was not polite to as a lady such things back in the day . Still an experience i look back on with fond memories
@@johnbarlow4572 Your experience is definitely not the majority’s experience and really that’s called being a teenage delinquent (absolutely no offense meant), which is actually more rare. Of course, you rarely hear the stories of someone graduating and having a successful life because that path is expected/is very common. Getting into that type of lifestyle as a teenager bears repeated conscious or subconscious consequences later in life, especially as it relates to addiction, social dynamics, and maintaining healthy relationships.
Child/children??? No real child involved in this case… Btw, you have 100 ways and places to go to on the internet for finding what you are complaining about…but not this completely harmless channel. Truth is important and all said the most normal thing these days if you are a teacher and ask teenagers that age.
@@marcusantoniusAfterDarkNo real child??????? Wtf! If it was a guy going in to girl's rooms to do this would you feel the same way? You're exactly why I don't trust adults around my kids
Think about the hundreds of these a day, but the people just dont say anything. Teachers, mom, dads, coaches, its everywhere - they will just never be caught
This seems to be a real trend that I'm wondering if anyone is doing actual research on. Every case you hear about with a woman like this, it's "she absolutely would have gotten away with it, but her phone told on her." If it were 1992 she absolutely would have gotten away with it.
Im shocked they both described that night as "taking it too far" .......uumm what? excuse me ladies could you take a seat? 🧐 chris hansen and lawandcrime need another collab
I don't believe she's afraid of her husband. No person who is afraid of a spouse beating them will blatantly be flirting with anyone LET ALONE CHILDREN in front of said spouse. She only said he beats her to gain their sympathy so she could weasel her way in to abuse them.
She’s married but cheats repeatedly, go off on a weekend with her husband but he can’t keep her away from the kiddie pool. I hope he’s divorced her. She’s trouble. The boys knew better for sure and brought a negative light on their team.
Hey women of this Chanel, will you be talking about it in this way if it was a nasty adult male doing this to teen girls? Why so biased?! 😡 that’s not equality
Lol what are you talking about? There talking about actual events that happened. You're mad they arent talking about a hypothetical situation that did not happen?
15 is too young and yes this is abuse.... However, in the 1970-80s the entire team would have chanted their names while the coach drank a beer and puffed a Marlboro red. Elvis was known to date girls as young as 13 and my Grandma still has a picture of him in her bedroom.
I remember always being scared of having a daughter bc of the need to protect her from a perverted man. But it’s these disgusting unhinged abusive manipulating narcissistic women that we have to worry about in regard to our sons. While doing this on vacation with her family is insane! & having children their ages is beyond me!! Throw away the key. I bet you she’s crying for her husband back.
I agree. She's talking about cougar and young men. They are teenagers!!! If it was reversed, they wouldn't be saying how he was having problems in his marriage!!! WTH!!!
@@MrsCarmen She wasn't defending her though. What she was doing was approaching it as how a trial lawyer would (which she is). She's talking about the psychology of these female predators who try to reason their actions based on a "cougar mentality". She even explicitly says that these women have narcissistic and sociopathic personalities and characteristics as specified in the DSM-5. She even adds that this behavior is not something a normal, well-adjusted person would do. Apparently, comprehension is not your strong suit.
She wasn't defending her though. What she was doing was approaching it as how a trial lawyer would (which she is). She's talking about the psychology of these female predators who try to reason their actions based on a "cougar mentality". She even explicitly says that these women have narcissistic personalities and characteristics as specified in the DSM-5. Apparently, comprehension is not your strong suit.
Not blaming anyone but her but aren’t these traveling minors/sports kids supposed to have an adult chaperone or something? If not then they should start doing that now for sure!
They are misapplying it too. I've only heard coworkers use that term when describing a weekend spent relaxing at home on the couch, as in "stay" at home.
Yep, a pathetic breed who would've had developmental issues regarding emotional maturity. Thinking that Toxic masculinity is being an Alpha Male. Rushing to grow up leads to being stunted when you are grown....
In Europe 13 countries have a age of consent of 14 years, Including Portugal, Italy, Germany etc. 8 European countries have consent age of 15 years old. Almost all the rest are 16 and 17.
Americans seem to have a problem deciding when you stop being a child and capable of making decisions for yourself .with the different ages of consent . Places like Florida where its 18 is ridiculous
@@johnbarlow4572we all know people are generally immature and poor decision makers until at least well into their twenties. The frontal lobe isn’t even done developing yet until 20s. Teens shouldn’t be sleeping with adults. The power dynamic is totally unequal.
Americans are crazy when it comes to this. Especially in these cases, where it's just a woman and a younger man. They literally think these "victims" will be "traumatized" be getting a blow job.
A 39 year old wife and mother would would assault a 15 year old at a hotel WHILE HER HUSBAND AND CHILDREN ARE STAYING THERE is mentally deranged with zero shame.
She's one year older than me and she... She what? Those boys are babies and should be protected. I don't care what's happening to her. Those are children.
The conversation would be completely different if the perp was a man, and the book would be thrown at him. She gets a sweetheart plea and less jail time. The legal double standard is as disgusting as this woman!
I definitely was attracted to adults. I had my son @ 16. His mom was 20. I went on vacation when i was 16 and slept with a 28 year old in her hotel room (she thought i was 21) while her friend (around the same age) was in the room.. but i was pretty much grown @ 16. I was doing all adult things and took care of adult responsibilities. But one that i do regret though, again @ 16 my uncles wife sent her friend in the room to sleep with me while we were both drunk and partying and she was like 40. im not saying its right. I think it affects teenagers differently. It didn't affect me at all. That's what i wanted at the time.
Girls and boys ARE different no matter how much modern culture tries to say otherwise. The woman is sick and should be in trouble but “bury her under jail “ mentality has gone too far.
Never heard an attorney say the words “You know” so much lol I could imagine her in court now “Well, You know members of the court and you know judge my client is innocent you know!” 😂
Lol. I think its generational nowadays the world wants to show equality in depravity even if the kid took full advantage of the lady before throwing her under the bus. Hockey players are very large testosterone filled dudes who could easily control the dynamic sexually.
If she was single i would say yes but not a married woman with an irate husband who could turn up at any moment . Valued my life to much to get involved in that sort of thing.
Exactly! It was a different way of thinking back in the day. It wouldn't have mattered if she was married or not. That's what we dreamed about in the 80's and 90's
3rd degree and 4th degree?! EIGHT MONTHS????!!! This all was so awful, so blatant and soooo distructive. How is she only going to get 8 months?! If this was a man with three minor girls- decades in jail, and she gets 8 months?!
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The fact that both the female host and female legal correspont casually referred to the illustration of 'a Cougar chasing young men,' is abhorrent and disgusting. This is literally part of the reason so many men have a hard time feeling bad for women who commit such acts while repeating a traumatic cycle. They are not young men, they are BOYS. What transpired us obviously much mmore than simply 'taking it too far.' This video clip was disgusting.
She used her allegedly abusive husband as her excuse to sexually abuse 15 year old boys? Wtaf is wrong with people. That smirk on her face in the mug shot says a lot. Lock her up.
She's smirking because she knows she might get away with it.
@@applejuicejunkie316, 8 months in jail?? I'd say she definitely got away with it. A man wouldn't get that sweet a deal.
I’m curious if the hubby knew she has this boy fetish, and maybe that’s why he kept telling her “their marriage will be over if she doesn’t come with him” 🤷♀️ but she is a creep!
@@bonusbaby801a man would have got 20 years..
I found out from someone who used to take those photos that they can't help it, and she explained that a lot of people just instinctually do that for pictures. It's just a Pavlov effect basically. She said they would snap back to being miserable most of the time.
The fact she’s a mom makes this even more messed up. She has no respect for herself or anyone.
Wasn’t her husband in the vicinity ?? 😫😫
@@tmcurlyher husband and her kids were staying in the same building /hotel
Makes you wonder what she's done to her own kids. Gross
@@kingjoseph5901This. These kind of people don’t just start doing this with strangers, they’ve done it before to “loved ones” and close friends and gradually become more bold each assault. Sickos.
and where tf were the boys' parents??? so many questions!!!
If it was a man, there would be no question about jail time.
Then he would get shanked in prison
She needs 20 years in prison.
Because its different. Shes way too hot for it to ever be a traumatic experience.
Stop whining. Every video with a female, this comment gets posted.
@@panushjo because its true and its wrong!
Even her striking up conversation with them in a hot tub is inappropriate, talking to them about her marriage. It was inappropriate from the absolute second it began.
She was grooming them. She wanted to hookup and get sympathy. If this was a dude and highschool girls, dude would be in prison already.
I never would've gotten in that hot tub.
Yup. I could literally have any interest in that at all!!!! SMH she’s nasty
That's probably why her husband said "come up to the room or the marriage is over"
The content of the conversation was inappropriate but striking up a conversation with the kids isn't. But getting into a hot tub with them was also not ok.
Why is the host and the guest being so careful about the words they use to describe this woman? This isn’t “cougar mentality” it’s straight up predatory behavior and YES, she’s also a stalker! If this was a man it would be a simple conversation
same thing i said. it just goes to show how woman truly dont see these act like how it would be if it was man smh. no accountability when its woman doing these things
Gender discrimination. They're sexist.
Apparently TH-cam nukes videos and channels who mention the actual words. "You’re young enough to be my kids" ew ew ew jail forever
Yeaaa...This channel does that sometimes. I honestly gave up saying anything anymore, but it's annoying. There's another video they titled as a victim /minor having an affair with her foster dad...she was groomed and assaulted. Thats assault not an affair.
She’s a predatory. Even if the kids wanted it, she’s a grown woman and should say “NO.”
Of course she barely gets a slap on the wrist. Here we go with the double standards in the court system again.
I totally agree with you gender biasness and double standards by the USA justice system again so what really the use of this age of consent law when it being used unfairly by the justice system against men 🤔
This is why we have a big problem with the modern woman in America. No accountability or consequences.
@@kingjoseph5901 For the longest time this behavior wasn't even illegal. Even if it was, it was swept under the rug, ignored, tolerated, or even praised.
@@scottcharney1091- no it wasn’t all you have to do is look up records of men who’ve gone to prison for the same thing. it’s a very long list now the sentencing might be shorter, but that’s because that’s a lot is written. In that case you go to your politicians through the ones you pass and make laws.
Who is in charge of designing the justice system? Who wrote the original laws? That would be men wouldn’t it?
I'm never gonna understand an adult looking at a child in that manner 🤢🤮
There is a difference between a 15 year old and a 7 year old. I have known 15 year old guys over 6 ft with a beard. And that's not even illegal in a lot of places. 18 isn't the universal age of adulthood.
15 year old is a man. Not a child. The number placed is arbitrary, and it is done so that older people do not abuse the young, but it doesnt diminish the fact that they are still men at that age.
@@davidmuller1958 Our brains don't stop growing until we're 23+ they are emotionally children. They will have major issues. They will wonder what's wrong with their lives. And this will be to blame for a lot of it. Trust me.
@danjquiroz yet somehow "children" have been going to war for millenia, and somehow we are still a strong species. Its only now we are limiting due studies. Wont change that we are animals still
@@davidmuller1958 15 years old are not men/women, that's a ridiculous thing to say, and you just sound suspicious to be honest. If you feel attracted to "men" (or "women") of 15 years old, you need help asap
A junior is really 16-17 not 18-20. She was literally bragging to them about having just hooked up with a kid
On purpose I bet
College junior
Junior Hockey = 16-20
@@maxross5542no, 15
I played hockey growing up...and I'll tell you first hand, women like this at her age are not rare when it comes to young boys who play hockey.
As we were a team that traveled a lot, we were in hotels a lot. And the amount of older women that we just called 'Milfs' because any woman over 25, that's what they were to us at that age.
These women would throw themselves, be vulgar...you name it. It was insane. But to us it was normal because it happened so much.
Even me and a teammate of mine were staying with a guest family for a season in HS and the guest Mom of that family got us both secret gifts for Christmas. And those gifts were two matching male thongs, that she wanted us to wear for her.
When I tell u this isn't uncommon.....its wild
Evil stuff. GROSS. TALKING ABOUT HER KIDS IN BED WITH TWO BOYS. Disgusting. Throw that book at her.
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@@HandlewasNo 🤮🤮🤮
The husband was abusing her...
Get real Milty! You KNOW you would have been all about it. Don't be jealous cause no one wanted you @ 15 😂
These dudes were those dudes... hockey studs who she got turned on by seeing them half naked
I'd say don't hate the players, but these snitches embarrassed themselves after having their way. No honor, no class on their part
And that's an excuse to abuse people???@@godhg9694
Disgusting on all levels, this woman is dangerous after & should not be allowed around minors
And the fact shes a mom herself makes this even more alarming! She's clearly a stalker too. She said she didn't know they didn't want her at the game. They tell her the games over and they lost but she went ahead and showed up anyway? No, it had nothing to do with her not realizing they didn't want her there....she was going anyway, regardless of what they wanted. She's a true narcissist! It's all about her and what she wants. Period.
Um,the guest just said,"younger men"!!!🤨These are NOT younger men,they are MINORS!!!!!😱Throw the book at the evil woman;she is a CRIMINAL!!!!!💯Hope she goes to jail for years!!!!💯She is a disgusting human being🤮&her husband should divorce her&get full custody of their kids.👍
Right?! They are KIDS! 😠
If the victim was a girl, people wouldn’t be saying “young woman.”
I’m glad someone said it
@@renny6151 exactly
Thank you
Where were the chaperones for the hockey team?
Maybe getting drunk and cheating with each other? 🤷🏻♂️
Not saying the situation is the same, but when I was in youth group we went to Gatlinburg every winter. We had chaperones but once it was time to go to your rooms (curfew) we never saw them again until the morning. Usually only 4 adults max to watch over 20+ kids. We all would go back and forth to eachother's rooms and they had no idea. Only thing they did was just not room girls and boys in the same room.
At the bar
i mean i doubt the chaperones would be sleeping in the same room with the boys in a hotel setting.
@@444fettythat could be inappropriate in and of itself
A man who did this would be under the jail.
I really want stats here. These True Crime videos make it really seem that we've been underestimating how often women do this for . . . basically all of history, which seems likely, but are there actual numbers? There seems to be a big increase in reporting lately.
I'm 34 and have a 15 year old son so YES this 38 year old is plenty old enough to be their mother, this lawyer needs to stop worrying about being offensive with her words and just come out with it
18 and 38 year old is not much of difference. I knew what I was doing as 18 year old dude, c'mon now.
@Qaranwadani1993 these KIDS were 15, not 18. That's why it's a crime, 18 would be an adult but 15 is TOTALLY different
You had a kid at 19?
@@Qaranwadani1993
You mean 18 and 37
@@surpriseimblack yes I did
Imagine if this was a man dealing with 3 15yo girls. What would have happened to him?
Imagine if it where a man 3 15year old boys 🤔
Realistically? Legally? Not much.... i think yall wanna convince yourself that we throw the book at male perps but we... dont. Its disgusting tbh. Most r*pists, regardless of gender, get away with it.
Bottom line...She thought because these boys lived all the way in Colorado, she would get away with it.
She is my age. This is absolutely disgusting. Get some self-confidence, and some therapy and you won't need admiration from literal children.
Lol.I don't think she was looking for admiration.She was missing her teen years.
Nah baby girl, they aren't children. They're young men, chock full of test and ready to rock. It happens all the time, but most boys aren't snitching bicches like those fools
At least they weren't prepubescent but still 😲
Any adult over the age of 35 who has Snapchat is a red flag.
Snapchat in and of itself is a red flag. Trashiest app of all time second to tinder.
Oh i have some of that😂
hahaha I completely agree. I didn't know, but one day i dated a woman, we were both around 35 at the time. She only used snapchat she told me, so she asked me to install it just to chat with her. Found it odd, but of course i was ignorant and naive, i'm a bit old fashioned :) Later I found out she was in a relationship. DUHHH :-D
i mean to a certain extent i guess; my mom has snapchat and she uses it to communicate w specific people aswell as its a place to save videos/pics.
and in all honesty, snapchat wasnt meant for kids😂snapchat was literally meant for explicit adult activities.
Ehh not necessarily. I am 35 and while the only time i use snapchat is to let my toddler look at himself with a funny filter on but 90% of my peers have snap chat. Now what is weird to me is women my age acting 18 on social media like all the vulgar rap song quotes, crop tops and booty shorts (3 sizes too small), or obsessed with tik tok. Tik tok is more juvenile in my opinion. Like the comment above, snapchat wasn't meant for kids.
Gee, I wonder why she’s having problems in her marriage…? I wonder if this is enough for the husband to divorce her.
I can’t believe she did this when her husband and kids were right in the same hotel! Not that it would be any better if it were somewhere else, it’s just even more surprising.
*even more disgusting
Hope her husband takes the kids away from her. She is a creep and gross
her husband doent dare divorce her. the courts will award her everything he owns.
@@DeBotCherry I imagine in her mind she's "sexually liberated", not taking advantage of teenage boys too immature to recognize the gross power imbalance there. (Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against two consenting ADULTS getting involved, but these kids are well below the age of consent)
Unfortunately he's probably going to give her more chances. He was in that probable cause report remember? He saw her with the boys in the got tub and told her if she didn't get out then they were over, he left, came back later, gave her the same ultimatum a second time, then just went back upstairs by himself, I feel like he must not have much self respect. Edited to say that he probably already knew about the junior hockey player that she cheated on him with as well.
WTF is wrong with these women taking advantage of kids who more than likely have never had to deal with these types of feelings and emotions that she pressured on them.
Lock her up. She is a sick woman.
Women have been left unchecked with consequences for over 50 years this is the result they go after kids since it's a forbidden fruit
That messed how she said "youre young enough to be my kid" and slept with them anyways.
How does she do this with zero shame. Disgusting
Why would the husband give her a second chance.
Weak men have lead to this
I'm guessing for the kids, and they've probably been married for over 10 years. I'm guessing if they didn't have kids and it was a recent marriage he would have noped out of that relationship.
Because was abusive...that's why he felt guilty
i don’t know if i believe that he was abusive, she’s the only source of this information that was presented.
no alimony for her lol
She thought these young boys would be an easy target but the rejection made her obsessive. She definitely deserves jail time. If she got what she wanted that night, most likely she would’ve left them alone after that. She’s more focused on them than her own family. 🤮
Ditto creepos preying on criminally young girls...they automatically assume the attention/what they have to offer will be very lucrative.
"The rejection made her obsessive" is scary af.
@@nineteen96 I know 😳
Except max 8 months does make them a very EASY target! 8 months!!!
@@sillysnaps she’ll be back at it again I’m sure
You spelled ‘predatory’ wrong. She’s way more than creepy.
They look alike !!
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as a young male...why in the heck would u snitch about getting with an older woman?? lmao
That's the youth of today for you .
RIGHT. Bit zezty
She's disgusting and should be locked up. Disgrace of a mother.
Sick woman!!!
She was going to get some that night no matter who was in that pool it just happened to be them kids
Anyone but Stan, at least.
Wow, what happened? Your wife’s boyfriend’s name is stan
This is sickening 🤮 🤢
No is not
In the 1980’s there would be a lot of kids walking through her neighborhood with hockey gear on…
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As a 16 yo , i got stalked by a 28 yo man , using violence he got what he wanted then it continued, threats ect , he got put away but i can't put away of what happened. It's a horror to live with .
Oh geez, I'm so sorry that happened to you, the assault and the violence. As men, I often think we don't put ourselves in women's shoes (well, not literally) and think about just how stressful it must be walking around having to question the intentions of every unknown man you encounter. I live in a college town, and am a fairly big guy, most people might find me intimidating, so if I'm walking and see a college girl I will specifically give her a wider berth (though not that it matters most of the time they're oblivious and staring at their phone).
How are you doing now
It's different. Every boy from the age of 15 dreams of keks with an adult woman like this.
why does she keep calling them younger men. they where kids.
Children
@@steveo3831 Not children, say post-pubescent adolescents.
@@lembas.Creep
aggressive athletes
Her husband is the victim here.
The two 15 year old boys, her children, and her husband are all victims.
Or in on it
Now that she is a felon and cant vote anyway, orange you glad she could vote to cancel out all of her husbands candidates?
@@pimplecentralI'm not sure if she's been convicted but if she's not she could still vote while still waiting for her trial or sentencing
Naw. Usually I feel bad for the spouses here but sounds like this dude sucks. I feel bad for their kids
eight months in jail?!!! That's it? If this were a man and girls he'd be sitting in prison for many years. Unbelievable. She will be out and do it again.
being 15, a boy and going through the physical experience with a friends mom, it wasn't a "traumatic" experience whatsoever... Now let's bring into the equation "LAW ENFORCEMENT / ATTORNEYS / COURT, etc..." Now the psychological and emotional issues are created... something that felt kinda strange and would have surely become a fading memory become a life changing event because police and lawyers entered the picture. what was only known to have happened between a few kids, and at worst a rumor among a few others became publicly known to the entire community those kids live in.
So who's causing more damage to these young people? a mixed up housewife with a few hours of regrettable actions, or the over educated , morally deficient legal professionals who will subject the teens to hundreds of hours of confusing and embarrassing situations that will forever be connected to there subconscious sexually.
Exactly
I hadn’t thought of it that way.. I think you are probably right! At least in some situations.
Yeah i also had an experience with a woman in her early 30s when I was 15 and I've always genuinely cherished that memory so much. It also gave me tons of confidence because I didn't feel like just another clueless kid my age that only experienced a woman through a computer screen.
People don’t want to admit these days, but men and women, girls and boys are different and they are wired different
Watch the film "Summer Of 42".
A total disgrace to her family and parents.A man accused of such crimes would be sent away for decades and so should she
This is a horrible crime. Those boys just lost their childhood, they will NEVER regain their innocence. Only deeply disturbed adults want to do things like this with little kids smh!
Maybe youth of today different but at 15 i was no kid. Left school Easter after i turned that age and by the end of the year was working' smoking. drinking in pubs. in bookie shops gambling on the horses., no longer a virgin as i lost that to a lady slightly younger than this one at a Christmas party in the office i was working. She was around 30 but i did not ask as it was not polite to as a lady such things back in the day . Still an experience i look back on with fond memories
Same @@johnbarlow4572
@@johnbarlow4572 Your experience is definitely not the majority’s experience and really that’s called being a teenage delinquent (absolutely no offense meant), which is actually more rare. Of course, you rarely hear the stories of someone graduating and having a successful life because that path is expected/is very common. Getting into that type of lifestyle as a teenager bears repeated conscious or subconscious consequences later in life, especially as it relates to addiction, social dynamics, and maintaining healthy relationships.
Getting kind of creepy with the specific descriptions of what happened to children, it's like this channel wants to feed chld predators fantasies....
I agree with you
I was thinking the same thing. Way too many graphic details. I’m actually surprised TH-cam is allowing it. Other channels get punished for less.
Child/children??? No real child involved in this case…
Btw, you have 100 ways and places to go to on the internet for finding what you are complaining about…but not this completely harmless channel. Truth is important and all said the most normal thing these days if you are a teacher and ask teenagers that age.
usually the affidavits arent so graphic on this channel. but i thought the same but it also gives u more information🤷🏽♀️
@@marcusantoniusAfterDarkNo real child??????? Wtf! If it was a guy going in to girl's rooms to do this would you feel the same way? You're exactly why I don't trust adults around my kids
Anything less than 20 years in prison is an injustice.
Women always get off lightly with a minimal sentence and / or probation……men on the other hand…..
Think about the hundreds of these a day, but the people just dont say anything. Teachers, mom, dads, coaches, its everywhere - they will just never be caught
The scary part is if she doesn’t add them on Snapchat and just leaves afterwards she would get away with it!
Imagine how many already have gotten away with it.
This seems to be a real trend that I'm wondering if anyone is doing actual research on. Every case you hear about with a woman like this, it's "she absolutely would have gotten away with it, but her phone told on her." If it were 1992 she absolutely would have gotten away with it.
Iam not familiar with the law in usa but i saw men get longer prison sentences and treated seriously. Where is the equality?
A maximum of 8 months behind bars……wtf? Wreaks of double standards.
I’m blinded by the headlights 😂😂😂
Im shocked they both described that night as "taking it too far" .......uumm what? excuse me ladies could you take a seat? 🧐 chris hansen and lawandcrime need another collab
Ahhh yes, every teenage boys fantasy....
I don't believe she's afraid of her husband. No person who is afraid of a spouse beating them will blatantly be flirting with anyone LET ALONE CHILDREN in front of said spouse.
She only said he beats her to gain their sympathy so she could weasel her way in to abuse them.
All she had to do was take the ring of and give them the come on and they would have done the same thing
She’s married but cheats repeatedly, go off on a weekend with her husband but he can’t keep her away from the kiddie pool. I hope he’s divorced her. She’s trouble. The boys knew better for sure and brought a negative light on their team.
This woman is disgusting, she deserves jail time
Hey women of this Chanel, will you be talking about it in this way if it was a nasty adult male doing this to teen girls? Why so biased?! 😡 that’s not equality
Who is defending her exactly, except the creepy guy I've scolded in another comment.
Lol what are you talking about? There talking about actual events that happened. You're mad they arent talking about a hypothetical situation that did not happen?
All the women here are condemning her. What do you mean?
@Robin-xt7yo I don't want women to be put in prison for handing out blow jobs, and I'm a man. Haven't seen a woman defending her here.
You can't force a b job or sesx on a male the same was a female
Sick woman , so gross😮
I know...I love her.
15 is too young and yes this is abuse.... However, in the 1970-80s the entire team would have chanted their names while the coach drank a beer and puffed a Marlboro red. Elvis was known to date girls as young as 13 and my Grandma still has a picture of him in her bedroom.
I mean.. back then people did a bunch of f*cked up things. Not really the type of thing we should aspire too
She's 38, the kids are 15 and this lawyer says they are almost half her age? Your math isn't mathing, mam.
Age was not the thing that would have made it a non starter for me in my teems . Its the fact she is married that would have done that.
I remember always being scared of having a daughter bc of the need to protect her from a perverted man. But it’s these disgusting unhinged abusive manipulating narcissistic women that we have to worry about in regard to our sons. While doing this on vacation with her family is insane! & having children their ages is beyond me!! Throw away the key. I bet you she’s crying for her husband back.
that lawyer throwing out every buzz word she could think of made me stop watching this video. not everything is narcissism.
This woman with the glasses sounds like she defending her. Sick.
I agree. She's talking about cougar and young men. They are teenagers!!! If it was reversed, they wouldn't be saying how he was having problems in his marriage!!! WTH!!!
@@MrsCarmen We have a gynocentric society
Yeah and her eye brows have a constant surprised look lol
@@MrsCarmen She wasn't defending her though. What she was doing was approaching it as how a trial lawyer would (which she is). She's talking about the psychology of these female predators who try to reason their actions based on a "cougar mentality". She even explicitly says that these women have narcissistic and sociopathic personalities and characteristics as specified in the DSM-5. She even adds that this behavior is not something a normal, well-adjusted person would do. Apparently, comprehension is not your strong suit.
She wasn't defending her though. What she was doing was approaching it as how a trial lawyer would (which she is). She's talking about the psychology of these female predators who try to reason their actions based on a "cougar mentality". She even explicitly says that these women have narcissistic personalities and characteristics as specified in the DSM-5. Apparently, comprehension is not your strong suit.
Not blaming anyone but her but aren’t these traveling minors/sports kids supposed to have an adult chaperone or something? If not then they should start doing that now for sure!
I think the cougars should leave the kids alone. Shouldn't have to worry about some milf touching your children while their in the pool
"Staycation" is the stupidest word I've heard in a really long time.
Outside the context of a joke, I think that warrents at least some incarceration.
They are misapplying it too. I've only heard coworkers use that term when describing a weekend spent relaxing at home on the couch, as in "stay" at home.
Gaslighter extra Narcissist
I’ve never understood the desire to get into the mind of a person who does something terrible. They’re just bad and they need to go away. That’s it.
That doesn't come out to a very interesting show. You wouldn't be watching it.
@@MeneTekelUpharsin True
Not gonna lie, if this happened to me when I was 15, I wouldn’t have said anything. Maybe aim a different breed.
Yeah, deranged and immature,
16 is legal in some states.
Yep, a pathetic breed who would've had developmental issues regarding emotional maturity. Thinking that Toxic masculinity is being an Alpha Male. Rushing to grow up leads to being stunted when you are grown....
@@DarthOblivious7891ok viiiiirrrgiiin😂
that would have been the score of a lifetime bro me and my friends woulda been hype lol
The boys knew exactly what they were doing.. now they acting "all innocent" gtfoh😅
There is no way she assaulted anyone. She changed someone's life.
39 and on a staycation with her family. Tragic.
If this was a man and they were 15 year old girls this would be wayyyyy more serious.
Forcing a key into a lock is worse than leaving a lock open for all and sunder.
She has a long line of yet to be named victims. WITHOUT question.
They do not want to be named.
Those poor traumatized jocks. How will they ever recover from the best weekend of their lives...😂😂
@@surpriseimblack dream come true
@@markecarandangmen like you is the reason why male victims never recover
In Europe 13 countries have a age of consent of 14 years, Including Portugal, Italy, Germany etc. 8 European countries have consent age of 15 years old. Almost all the rest are 16 and 17.
Americans seem to have a problem deciding when you stop being a child and capable of making decisions for yourself .with the different ages of consent . Places like Florida where its 18 is ridiculous
We’re not in Europe
@@johnbarlow4572we all know people are generally immature and poor decision makers until at least well into their twenties. The frontal lobe isn’t even done developing yet until 20s. Teens shouldn’t be sleeping with adults. The power dynamic is totally unequal.
Americans are crazy when it comes to this. Especially in these cases, where it's just a woman and a younger man. They literally think these "victims" will be "traumatized" be getting a blow job.
That is why those countries have a high case of ped0s
Dang they’re airing it all out 🤮 embarrassing 😳😭
A 39 year old wife and mother would would assault a 15 year old at a hotel WHILE HER HUSBAND AND CHILDREN ARE STAYING THERE is mentally deranged with zero shame.
She's one year older than me and she... She what?
Those boys are babies and should be protected. I don't care what's happening to her. Those are children.
Babies haven't been through puberty, stop infantilizing people that aren't infants.
Tell me about your experience as a teenager male😂
The conversation would be completely different if the perp was a man, and the book would be thrown at him. She gets a sweetheart plea and less jail time. The legal double standard is as disgusting as this woman!
Her exhusband's lawyer myst be so happy about this. Lol
Poor kids
She need jail time and her kids taken away. period.
Wow what a sick and evil woman.
I definitely was attracted to adults. I had my son @ 16. His mom was 20. I went on vacation when i was 16 and slept with a 28 year old in her hotel room (she thought i was 21) while her friend (around the same age) was in the room.. but i was pretty much grown @ 16. I was doing all adult things and took care of adult responsibilities. But one that i do regret though, again @ 16 my uncles wife sent her friend in the room to sleep with me while we were both drunk and partying and she was like 40. im not saying its right. I think it affects teenagers differently. It didn't affect me at all. That's what i wanted at the time.
Victims??
17 boy is a young man,17 girl is a kid, double standard
Yes that's called culture
The thing is they are both kids. And i hear people describe teenage girls as young women ALL the time. So i dont get your point tbh.
@@trollingmermaids well, that's too bad.
Girls and boys ARE different no matter how much modern culture tries to say otherwise. The woman is sick and should be in trouble but “bury her under jail “ mentality has gone too far.
@jammiesimb311 what? Girls mature faster if anything. What are you talking about?
Court system is a joke when it’s women caught doing this.
I can’t believe the kid snitched.
Ok groomer
Satan's bots
Lmao
Snitches get stitches.
@@brandih8972No seriously, what punks
Them boys soft for snitching…
found the pedohpile
@@baconblaster6422naw fr
"they not like us". Hate the song but true lol
@@markecarandangNah bro, most of us would never do that either. We disown punnks like that
i wish i woulda lived this in my teens
Electric Chair
For the kid who snitched or...who?
Yeah for the punk who told!
What kind of like is ‘You have a 38 year old woman in your bed.’ So freaking weird.
One who knows how the male mind works
@@Guitar_Wolf Bruh, I am one with the male mind, it was the part about her being 38 that she somehow thought made it more attractive
Never heard an attorney say the words “You know” so much lol I could imagine her in court now “Well, You know members of the court and you know judge my client is innocent you know!” 😂
Back when I was in high school, these boys would’ve been hailed as heroic studs
Lol. I think its generational nowadays the world wants to show equality in depravity even if the kid took full advantage of the lady before throwing her under the bus. Hockey players are very large testosterone filled dudes who could easily control the dynamic sexually.
Well that’s one way to end your troubled marriage…
I do NOT understand these women!!!!
No, you don't understand men and how our minds work at that age
Your guest lawyer sounds very strange. Her speach is all jumbled up and stuttered. Is she ok?
i wish she would’ve found me 😐
If that was me she would have stayed all night in my hotel bed.
If she was single i would say yes but not a married woman with an irate husband who could turn up at any moment . Valued my life to much to get involved in that sort of thing.
Exactly! It was a different way of thinking back in the day. It wouldn't have mattered if she was married or not. That's what we dreamed about in the 80's and 90's
Where were these moms when I was 17..should have played hockey instead of baseball.
Everywhere, just they were not in to you
@@Forty_six_and_two that’s a great comeback..lol
Of course her husband “hits her”. They always become victims when they’re caught.
Men hitting is common behavior.
She needs to be put under the jail.
The woman in the glasses gave one of the worst perspectives I've ever seen. Barely could out a sentence together.
This made me physically sick.
3rd degree and 4th degree?! EIGHT MONTHS????!!! This all was so awful, so blatant and soooo distructive. How is she only going to get 8 months?! If this was a man with three minor girls- decades in jail, and she gets 8 months?!
Where were all these dream makers when I was playing youth sports?
Where are all of these women coming from?