This has been so helpful. I recently downloaded 3ds Max 2021 for a photogrammetry assigment so I can try these improved tools and I am so happy that I found your video.
Amazing! I learned Zbrush mostly to do these things....Having these tools in Max will be fantastic. Thanks as always for the tips Eloi. Its appreciated and I'm always looking out for your videos!
excellent tutorial. Tons of useful infos and new modifiers I totally missed. Great. I was ready to abandon Max forever. But damn, this new Retopology modifier destroys every other auto retopo tool. The results are outstandingly close to what I'd do by manually retopologizing. Except here you get the result in seconds instead of days.
I consistently asked him to get the newer versions of max back to the robust improvmenets to the Chamfer modifier to see if he can make use of them and show us some tricks. H enever responds to the coments. His patreons need to ask him about this new retopo algorithms come to max
@@orphydiancg7759 He does reply sometimes. I myself reply every comment in my channel (about tyflow 3d max plugin) but it is a small channels so far. When I get 20-50k followers, things can get out of hand :) - Im still rocking max 2019, but 2021 seems big step forward with new Chamfer and now with build-in "quadmesh" / "ZRemesher"
I'm so excited! I've been retopo-ing a lot of old CAD data from clients all day, and it's REALLY useful. I get some errors of course, but mostly it's possible to massage the settings to get clean results even from really crappy CAD. Max is heading towards a very good place at the moment. Great video as usual Eloi, take care!
Hey, great video! Congratulations! My 3Ds Max (2021 and 2022) doesn't have this modifier (RETOPOLOGY), do I have to enable it somewhere? Or do you have to download some script or plugin? Thanks!
Thanks Ricardo. retopology was introduced in max 2022 as a separate installer (if you go to your autodeskapp you will see it there). From max 2023, its already included on the main max installation.
Thanks, this tutorial is very helpful. Just a note though, I've been playing with Retopology today on my own scanned models, and I like the results from QuadriFlow better than Reform especially when there's more polygon reduction involved. YMMV of course.
I saw your tutorial "Retopology in 3ds Max. Tips & Tricks" with great interest. Thanks a lot for this ! I have an important question for you - how do you fix the problem with the texture / UV's in the stork couple after using the modifiers "Pro Optimizer" and "Retopology". Your tips are excellent, but unfortunately I can't get any further. So I ask you for a little tutorial. thank you very much for that!
You can use or "project" modifier, or tyconform modifier (you can download this one for free, it comes with tyflow). And it projects uv data very well.
I love the fact that finally we need less programs to do the same type of job, save a lot of time and can improve the final result way more than before. As for the projection mapping that still fails to deliver a good result guess we will still need to use xnormal that it's free and does amazing job on projection the texture map on it
Yeah, I was as close as this-> . to switch to blender due to max being outdated but now in the recent two releases of 2020-2021, they changed the game again. good job Autodesk.
It's quite cool..... It's like zremesher in zrbush, but what would you do to cap the hole created by the retopology taht we can see at 16:31 for example ?
Excellent Autodesk. All I could do with Houdini 10 years ago. You gave people in 2021 8). And you left the old problems that have not been fixed for 20 years.
Yes sure. XD Houdini 10 years ago with a retopology like this one? Houdini with bloom in viewport? with PBR importers? Lets just say that the improved pathdeform in Houdini 18.5 its 5 times slower or more than the 3dsmax pathdeform. (Not starting here a useless debate here about what program is better, they cover different needs, but saying that the improvements on this version was available 10 years ago in houdini... its just not true, Houdini 10 years ago was even more focused in just procedural fx than now, and this uupdate of 3dsmax is more about modelling).
@@andvfx This was achieved by Houdini + Python 10 years ago! You can read the technical part. just google "Practical Quad Mesh Simplification EUROGRAPHICS 2010" I didn't say which program is better! I said that Autodesk "does not fix problems that are very many years old."
this should have been the first tool implemented in the software way back in the 90's or whatever it was when they made 3dsmax. i've never wanted anything more than this in this software.
Thank you for your video. It might be worth mentioning that the new modifier is extremely resource-hungry. On my i7-6820 2.7 GHz, 16 GB RAM machine, it can no longer be used for more than 50,000 polygons. Always waiting 15 minutes for the the message "IPOPT optimization failed". What kind of machine did you use for the video, maybe I need an upgrade? I think the poor performance is the reason that the tool has to be installed separately.
It works pretty good on my old laptop. its a 4 cores 2.2Ghz i7, with a gtx 960M, and 32 gb of ram. Its already 5 years old laptop. If it fails normally its for a bad topology or problems detecting hard edges. First thing you should do is run a mesh cleaning modifier, then prooptimize to your target resolution, and run retopology with detect hard edges off.
in 2022 it comes as a separate installer. you will found it in your autodesk install app. in 2023 and forward it comes included with the basic installation.
A very cool update. Thank you very much for the helpful tutorial! Do not tell me, maybe there is a link or resource where you can look at Flowline. Is it a standalone application or as a big studio plug-in built into 3D studio max?
@@andvfx Looking at the level of realism, one gets the impression that the instrument is ahead of the rest for many years to come. It may be lucky to see him on some podcast someday) Everything mysterious tempts intolerably, heh))
If the point is to create a lowpoly version, the algorithm on the retopology will be faster if has something closer to the target, than lets say, needing to evaluate a 15M poly scan to create finally a 10K model.
I'm quite new to 3DS max and I can't seem to figure out why I can't see faces and edges once I add modifiers to my mesh? The only time I can see the faces is when I'm on the editable mesh modifier after hitting select by element.
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I just did some research and the answer is : YES - Go to Autodesk website - Log in with your account - Click on your profil in the top-right corner - In "my account" section > select : "Products and Services" > - In the list, you must develop the 3ds Max band by clicking on it or by clicking the ">" button (located on the left of 3ds Max Logo) - At the bottom, look for and select "Updates and extensions" - Scroll and download : Autodesk® Retopology Tools v1.0.0 for 3ds Max® 2021 - ENJOY
For me the subdivide modifier set to adaptive curvature takes like 45 minutes(sometimes 3Ds Max even crashes) to subdivide a 8k polygon mesh. Its not useable for me on a ryzen 3700x
Buenas quisiera saber si hay alguna forma de escoger la retopologia, ya que cuando uso el modificador las costuras hechas con el uvwrap se pierden y cuando lo llevo a substance painter no reconoce el modelo HP para coger las normales. Saludos
JORGE luis No se si entiendo la pregunta. Por un lado no se porque substance painter no reconoceria el modelo hipoly por perder las uvs. No uso substance, pero diria que puedes seleccionar manualmente cual es el modelo hipoly,no? Por otro lado, ahora mismo las uvs se pierden, en el video enseño como reproyectar uvs. Finalmente, si quieres hay la opcion que retopology tenga encuenta las seams de las uvs, para crear la nueva malla, cosa que puede ir bien si jecesitas reproyectar uvs sin distorciones en los seams.
![Retopology in 3DS Max [Tutorial]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/o8W4aMqiY68/mqdefault.jpg)
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I’m only using 3ds max since 3 months and it’s just getting better and better ! Thank you for this complete update!
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This is a good alternative for quad remesh
The fact that its in the mod stack sells it for me.
This has been so helpful. I recently downloaded 3ds Max 2021 for a photogrammetry assigment so I can try these improved tools and I am so happy that I found your video.
Just when I think I'm finally out, Autodesk drag me back in.
Why? You have this in ofter software and 3ds max is horrible expensive. Greedy Company
Im moving to "Blender " After 12 years of using max and vray
Blender seems more expensive if you think of add-ons though.
blender is half assed software & slow as heck not to mention all the weird shit it has.
@@arsb7534 blender is free for a reason
Muy bueno el Projection para rescatar las UVs luego de Retopology! Mil gracias Eloi!!!
Si usas el nuevo max ya no hace falta. Solo checkea las uvs en retopology y las mantiene!
@@andvfx Mejor aun! Acabo de probarlo y funciona. Muchísimas gracias una vez más! :)
Amazing! I learned Zbrush mostly to do these things....Having these tools in Max will be fantastic. Thanks as always for the tips Eloi. Its appreciated and I'm always looking out for your videos!
Just Amazing!! so many hidden gems in one tutorial .... Gracias!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
excellent tutorial. Tons of useful infos and new modifiers I totally missed. Great.
I was ready to abandon Max forever. But damn, this new Retopology modifier destroys every other auto retopo tool. The results are outstandingly close to what I'd do by manually retopologizing. Except here you get the result in seconds instead of days.
Thanks Eloi, Wonderful tutorial i thought in these world full of blender people i wont find 3ds max people they seem to exist lmao
Thank you Eloi! Better late than never. Great and long waited addition! Let's see what Arrimus 3d will do now :)
I consistently asked him to get the newer versions of max back to the robust improvmenets to the Chamfer modifier to see if he can make use of them and show us some tricks. H enever responds to the coments. His patreons need to ask him about this new retopo algorithms come to max
@@orphydiancg7759 He does reply sometimes. I myself reply every comment in my channel (about tyflow 3d max plugin) but it is a small channels so far. When I get 20-50k followers, things can get out of hand :) - Im still rocking max 2019, but 2021 seems big step forward with new Chamfer and now with build-in "quadmesh" / "ZRemesher"
I'm so excited! I've been retopo-ing a lot of old CAD data from clients all day, and it's REALLY useful. I get some errors of course, but mostly it's possible to massage the settings to get clean results even from really crappy CAD. Max is heading towards a very good place at the moment. Great video as usual Eloi, take care!
I'm trying out RT on horrific CAD models and not getting a lot of luck with it.
Render to texture with projection modifier ll fix the errors on projected UVs.
Great Tutorial...!! Many thanks...
The text topology was very helpful. Great tutorial. ❤
Thank you so much for this Eloi
Thanks for video. As a modeler i can say that manual professional retopology is quite more lowpoly
Favourite channel ❤️ thanks for uploading these amazing videos. Keep up the good work Autodesk
finally, they cared what artist really wanted
I didn’t even know about the UV projection. Thanks ! I tried to show projection and my I7700k froze :) maybe should have optimized some.
Muy interesante este nuevo modificador
Damn, is amazing, I waited for this for years!
Keep up the great work.. 🙏
thats impressive,but would love to see workflow with Boolean Objects.
Search for martin coven channel or 3ds max learning channel.
You're a star, man! awesome tutorial!!
Hey, great video! Congratulations! My 3Ds Max (2021 and 2022) doesn't have this modifier (RETOPOLOGY), do I have to enable it somewhere? Or do you have to download some script or plugin? Thanks!
Thanks Ricardo. retopology was introduced in max 2022 as a separate installer (if you go to your autodeskapp you will see it there). From max 2023, its already included on the main max installation.
Thanks, this tutorial is very helpful. Just a note though, I've been playing with Retopology today on my own scanned models, and I like the results from QuadriFlow better than Reform especially when there's more polygon reduction involved. YMMV of course.
Thank you, I really needed to hear tNice tutorials!!
What a great video. Super well explained, thanks! Any video in your channel on how to record yourself with soft soft? I'm under the
The BEST Eloi!
Awesome that in Max 2023 retolpology preserves UVWs :D
Yes! and IDs, and any mesh info! this saved some extra steps we needed on this video.
thanks for the information..loved it
Thanks, this is a time saver !
Unfortunately I can't make it work as good as in your examples, can't understand why :(
@@mpej429 Same here, it's pretty buggy and unstable
What about importing midi files because most midis freezes my program. What can I do about it? I'm using soft soft Bundle Pack by
I saw your tutorial "Retopology in 3ds Max. Tips & Tricks" with great interest. Thanks a lot for this ! I have an important question for you - how do you fix the problem with the texture / UV's in the stork couple after using the modifiers "Pro Optimizer" and "Retopology". Your tips are excellent, but unfortunately I can't get any further. So I ask you for a little tutorial. thank you very much for that!
You can use or "project" modifier, or tyconform modifier (you can download this one for free, it comes with tyflow). And it projects uv data very well.
as always ur a life saver
can i ask you how you use tyconform to reapply uvs since tyconform is used only for conforming vertices
thx
I love the fact that finally we need less programs to do the same type of job, save a lot of time and can improve the final result way more than before. As for the projection mapping that still fails to deliver a good result guess we will still need to use xnormal that it's free and does amazing job on projection the texture map on it
Completed ur 500 likes mate
Thank you soo much! This helped a lot! ❤️
Nice!!!!! I love 3dsmax!!
Do you have a website and do you do consulting for individual projects?
Andvfx.com for consulting if I have time, yes.
This is amazing, finally 3dsMax is catching up. THANK YOU this is going to make my everyday life so much easier
Yeah, I was as close as this-> . to switch to blender due to max being outdated but now in the recent two releases of 2020-2021, they changed the game again. good job Autodesk.
It's not catching up. It needs CAT to be updated.
@@MIchaelSybi there have been some improvements to CAT recently.
@@martincoven Could you please eludicate?
Best tutorial ever!
like you add your own sample to the soft roll and when you play it it always plays longer than what is shown in the soft roll and
Congrats!!! When did you first start investing
It's quite cool.....
It's like zremesher in zrbush, but what would you do to cap the hole created by the retopology taht we can see at 16:31 for example ?
I dont see any hole? Other than the hole that is supposed to be there from the model?
I’ll see it when I’ll try it myself.
Excellent Autodesk. All I could do with Houdini 10 years ago. You gave people in 2021 8). And you left the old problems that have not been fixed for 20 years.
Yes sure. XD Houdini 10 years ago with a retopology like this one? Houdini with bloom in viewport? with PBR importers? Lets just say that the improved pathdeform in Houdini 18.5 its 5 times slower or more than the 3dsmax pathdeform. (Not starting here a useless debate here about what program is better, they cover different needs, but saying that the improvements on this version was available 10 years ago in houdini... its just not true, Houdini 10 years ago was even more focused in just procedural fx than now, and this uupdate of 3dsmax is more about modelling).
@@andvfx This was achieved by Houdini + Python 10 years ago! You can read the technical part. just google "Practical Quad Mesh Simplification EUROGRAPHICS 2010"
I didn't say which program is better! I said that Autodesk "does not fix problems that are very many years old."
@@Anafeyka What problems? The list of bug fixes on this release is quite big. There is always more work to be done, for sure.
@@Anafeyka Show me. Also Houdini didn't do that. Researcher did it.
Nice one mate!
this should have been the first tool implemented in the software way back in the 90's or whatever it was when they made 3dsmax. i've never wanted anything more than this in this software.
It is to computationally intensive for those times I guess
how do you get all the tutorial and samples on the left. mine doesnt have sNice tutorialt
Very good tutorial! I was wondering, what are brief specs of workstation this is taking place on?
I was rather hoping that it would be possible to open another instance of soft soft VST in rewire and drag stuff from one to another but
Thanks that was a very informative Tutorial!
super thanks
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Thank you for your video. It might be worth mentioning that the new modifier is extremely resource-hungry. On my i7-6820 2.7 GHz, 16 GB RAM machine, it can no longer be used for more than 50,000 polygons. Always waiting 15 minutes for the the message "IPOPT optimization failed". What kind of machine did you use for the video, maybe I need an upgrade? I think the poor performance is the reason that the tool has to be installed separately.
It works pretty good on my old laptop. its a 4 cores 2.2Ghz i7, with a gtx 960M, and 32 gb of ram. Its already 5 years old laptop. If it fails normally its for a bad topology or problems detecting hard edges. First thing you should do is run a mesh cleaning modifier, then prooptimize to your target resolution, and run retopology with detect hard edges off.
This was really helpful. Thank you!
my 3ds max 2022 dont have this modifier "retopology" where i find?
in 2022 it comes as a separate installer. you will found it in your autodesk install app. in 2023 and forward it comes included with the basic installation.
Impresionante tutorial. Muchas gracias.
i update and i don't see retopology in modify. where need activate this function?
you need to download it from autodesk destop app
Don't matter how long you take, long as you do it cause you love to
Simple and easy, thank you. :)
how to keep the smoothing groupe after retopology same as high poly
Thanks so much
Thanks
Buen video, podrías hacerlo en español?
Gracias, t has ganado un suscriptor, un saludo desde España, Murcia.
made it into an arp using the default soft envelope generator and a bunch or other weird stuff I didn’t even know existed. Called it pants
A very cool update. Thank you very much for the helpful tutorial! Do not tell me, maybe there is a link or resource where you can look at Flowline. Is it a standalone application or as a big studio plug-in built into 3D studio max?
Flowline is an inhouse tool for liquids and particles simulations used at ScanlineVFX. Works inside 3dsmax.
@@andvfx Looking at the level of realism, one gets the impression that the instrument is ahead of the rest for many years to come. It may be lucky to see him on some podcast someday) Everything mysterious tempts intolerably, heh))
thank you
Finally live streaming!
Uv remove? Texture baking full traning 3ds max or substance painter
Do retopology spoils textured mesh?
Currently all the data (UVs, smoothing groups, etc..) are lost. This is something we want to improve in the future.
Great tutorial!! Where u found those models?
they are from threedscans.com
Hey, where can I find the download to the Retopology modifier?
Should be available from your Autodesk app now.
Ah.. thanks!
@@oliver_irli update and i don't see retopology in modify. where need activate this function?
@@HuskyVideo for me it appeared as soon as I installed and restarted my PC
oh man. you are a really good!!
I'm trying to learn even though I only have fruity edition instead of the producer edition
retopology could works with 3ds 2019?
This is fantastic. Sooooooo Nice!! :) Thanks to share··
Why do you prefer to use Pro Optimizer before stacking a retopo modifier and not let it do the entire job ? Is it just a matter of speed ?
If the point is to create a lowpoly version, the algorithm on the retopology will be faster if has something closer to the target, than lets say, needing to evaluate a 15M poly scan to create finally a 10K model.
I see, thanks. And good thing you made use if the subdivide modifier, I would have never guessed it was this much handy in this case otherwise 😀
there is an error when i try to use the tool "Error message from the last failure: IPOPT optimization failed. why would that be? thanks
Make sure to run first a meshcleaner to avoid nonemanifold polys.
@@andvfx I wll try with that, thks!
I'm quite new to 3DS max and I can't seem to figure out why I can't see faces and edges once I add modifiers to my mesh? The only time I can see the faces is when I'm on the editable mesh modifier after hitting select by element.
Hi, great vid !
Though, I always get an error when I try to put a second "Retopology" modifier on top of the first one.. Any idea why ?
No. What the error says?
Is there another way of getting the Retopology modifier other than Autodesk ???!!
Can you use Auto Retop in 2019 edition or any other equivalents?
Retopo was available on max 2021 and later. Because 2021 had no sdk break with 2020, you can make it work on 2020 with some “tweaks”
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cool tutorial
thanks
Can I get the "Retopology" Modifier with a Student License ?
I have 3dsMax 2021.3, but the modifier is not installed
Yes sure. Retopology comes always as an independent installation. You should find in on your autodesk acount, just install it!
I just did some research and the answer is : YES
- Go to Autodesk website
- Log in with your account
- Click on your profil in the top-right corner
- In "my account" section > select : "Products and Services" >
- In the list, you must develop the 3ds Max band by clicking on it or by clicking the ">" button (located on the left of 3ds Max Logo)
- At the bottom, look for and select "Updates and extensions"
- Scroll and download : Autodesk® Retopology Tools v1.0.0 for 3ds Max® 2021
- ENJOY
why dont I have a effects chain on my setuper
when i click GMS it gives sotNice tutorialng that softs electrical with no app soft whatsoever
what are pc requirements to do fast as you?
Wow this is great!!
Why is it still used manual retopology?
Can you make one for the soft stuido trail
I just wish the unwrapped UVW's would transfer over correctly to the new mesh properly? Or am I missing something here?
Right now uvs are not keep when creating the retopo. However, you can use uvw seams in retopo to keep them, so its easy later to reassign uvs.
For me the subdivide modifier set to adaptive curvature takes like 45 minutes(sometimes 3Ds Max even crashes) to subdivide a 8k polygon mesh. Its not useable for me on a ryzen 3700x
Lumbabumba Schumba Adjust the values to dont get a too dense mesh.
@@andvfx For most CAD Models u need really dense mesh. I played with the parameters. but ty for reply
Thanks so much for tNice tutorials video, it helped so much!
haha i totally agree bro!
Buenas quisiera saber si hay alguna forma de escoger la retopologia, ya que cuando uso el modificador las costuras hechas con el uvwrap se pierden y cuando lo llevo a substance painter no reconoce el modelo HP para coger las normales. Saludos
JORGE luis No se si entiendo la pregunta. Por un lado no se porque substance painter no reconoceria el modelo hipoly por perder las uvs. No uso substance, pero diria que puedes seleccionar manualmente cual es el modelo hipoly,no? Por otro lado, ahora mismo las uvs se pierden, en el video enseño como reproyectar uvs. Finalmente, si quieres hay la opcion que retopology tenga encuenta las seams de las uvs, para crear la nueva malla, cosa que puede ir bien si jecesitas reproyectar uvs sin distorciones en los seams.
@@andvfx lo que pasa es que trabajo en unreal, probaré proyectando las uv ojalá me solucione el error. buen tutorial salufos✌️