First Time Hearing Chicago - 25 or 6 to 4 (Tanglewood 1970) Reaction - A FUSION OF JAZZ & ROCK?!
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The talent we had back in the day 😭 I keep hoping someday they will turn off the computers & autotune and require this kind of talent to make a record
I guess we can dream, can’t we?
AMEN SISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely 💯!
Spot on!
Unquestionably music in every genre was better when record labels controlled the industry. Bands needed to reach a high bar of professionality and talent.
Not true anymore.
The digital era led to the demise of the labels and now anything goes. And there is so much dreck, it can be difficult to find good music.
Example:
Spotify confirms through its Co-Head of Music Jeremy Erlich that the company adds 60,000 new tracks in a day. That amounts to 22 million tracks uploaded in a single year. It also means that a new song enters Spotify every 1.4 seconds.
And that's just Spotify!
I couldn't agree more.
Not only can he play guitar, he can sing ,listen to "make me smile"
Not just "Make Me Smile" but the entirety of the "Ballet for a Girl in Buchanon" suite which also includes "Colour My World".
Chicago was never the same after Terry passed. RIP Terry Kath!
Well saw them after they lost the lead singer and they were fantastic, played for 3 hours.
Chicago, "25 or 6 to 4" . This a top shelf banger. Top 25 of all time. More Of 😂Bassist Peter Cetera, Lead Guitarest Terry Kath and Keyboards Robert Lamb.. sharing vocals. More from th Tanglewood concert, "Make me smile", "Beginning", "I'm a Man", Questions 67 and 68", "Saturday in the Park", "Does anybody really know what time it is?", "Dialogue Parts 1 and 2"...
Amen to that
Jimi Hendricks said Terry was the best guitar player he ever heard.
I saw Terry 8 times with the band and there aren't words to describe his guitar chops. And sadly, the band was never the same after he was gone.@@RyanWanecek
My favorite American band or group! I was in Cuba when I first listened to this song. I thanked my mother for sending a copy of a Chicago LP containing this song. I'm glad that I now live in the US since 1980 and I'm now 72 years old, and a US citizen. By the way, nobody these days make music of this quality.
Yes, Jimi Hendrix was highly complimentary of Terry Kath's guitar playing. Shows how special Terry was. He was the heart and soul of the band. They were never the same after his passing.
The original Chicago lineup was some of the greatest musical talent ever assembled.
"The original Chicago lineup was some of the greatest musical talent ever assembled." No more true words have been spoken.
Iirc, Hendrix was asked how it feels to be the greatest guitar player and he said “I don’t know, ask Terry.”
That man is what I call a guitarist !!! Terry, and all the other members was ridiculously talented !!!!
RIP Terry Kath. "If there's a rock and roll heaven, you know they've got a hell of a band".
Great band from the 70's-80's. They were a rock & roll band with horns & blended elements of classical music, jazz, R&B, & pop music. They had a lot of great songs such as "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?", "Beginnings", "Feelin' Stronger Everyday", "Questions 67 & 68", "I'm A Man", "If You Leave Me Now", "Hard To Say I'm Sorry", "Saturday In The Park", "Colour My World", "You're The Inspiration", "Will You Still Love Me?", "Look Away", "Old Days" etc.
You’ve got to hear Terry Kath sing. He was an incredible artist. Soulful voice and played the guitar like the devil.
Terry Kath played loosely on this video, on the audio version of "25 or 6 to 4" he's really tight. Give that reaction, Great channel you two.
Lead guitar Terry Kathy, Danny Seraphine on drums, with Pete Cetera on a competent bass, gave Chicago a rhythm section equal to the best at the time. Different genre from Zepplin.
Terry Kath was a monster guitarist. . Great documentary by his daughter recently with her looking to learn more about him as he died when she was toddler. Jimi Hendrix loved him as a guitarist. When asked how it feels to be best guitarist in rock Hendrix replied, "I don't know. You should ask Terry Kath". Hendrix had Chicago tour with his band.
I've heard this quote attributed to several different guitarists talking about a hundred others. It's almost certainly fictitious. That said, it is well documented that Hendrix heard Terry Kath play and thought he was great. Apparently he felt that of all the guitarists of the late 60s, Terry was the one whose style resembled his (Hendrix's) the most.
Jimmy Pankow has stated in an interview that JH actually said that TK at that time was one of the best guitarists he's ever heard.
@stpnwlf9- You would be incorrect. It was a printed interview with Rolling Stone if memory serves. I read the interview myself in '71/'72.
@@89801wink I would sure like to find that article and read that. All I know is I have seen that exact quote attributed to Eric Clapton or Jimmy Page talking about dozens of other guitarists. I've also heard it being debunked by people who said the whole thing was made up. But hey, if you actually read it in Rolling Stone, I guess that's that.
Incorrect. He said Rory Galagher was the best living guitar player. He told Chicagos manager while trying to sign them as Experiences opening act that Kath was as good as him. See Hendrix on Dick Cavett video on YT. Alco Chicago declined to open for Hendrix.
Terry Kath's performance here is mind blowing ! The whole band shines in this performance .
I love how all the instruments go off and yet still work together to hold this song together.
I mean without one section the song would be lost . This is live music at it's best .
This performance is one of fav's and best i have ever seen .
Love watching you guy's spread your wings, and experience the many directions that music takes us all.
I will be waiting and ready for your next reaction !
Peace n love from Down Under 😎🤘
These guys were truly musicians in the purest sense. Most were music majors in college and had all the training. Not only did they write the songs, they did their own compositions. Their first album was a double disc and recorded in 2 weeks.
Always studio before live
You guys take bad advice. Should’ve eased into this one. Well good thing I’m not subscribed
Can't believe you never listened to Chicago! You must not be old, like me. My favorite group growing up, along with the similar Blood Sweat and Tears and a somewhat obscure group called Ten Wheel Drive featuring a brass section and a Janis Joplin type singer (Genya Revan). All were great. You should check them out.
I read this:
“Jimi Hendrix cited Terry Kath as one of his favorite guitarists, and considered Kath to be "the best guitarist in the universe".
Best performance. But suggest listening to the album cut to hear the differences. ❤
Yep indeed. Without the context of the studio version, this has less impact and little to reference for new Chicago listens. Even though it sounds similar it is also vastly different in many ways. This is a (should be) showcase performance after hearing some of their songs. It just works better that way.
Terry Kath is one of the most if not the most underrated and under-appreciated (by the public at large, musicians knew who he was) rock guitarists of my generation. He was an amazing guitar player, songwriter, composer and band leader. He was a very gifted musician.
This is pure talent, todays noise is not music. Thank you for playing this.
yes not only is it noise but it's meaningless noise
I’m 56 and I grew up with hippie parents who played great music. I remember thinking to myself when I was a kid that if music was this incredible now, imagine how incredible it will be when I’m old. Who knew it would suck as badly as it does now! It was bad enough in the 90’s, but now I just tune it out as best I can. To make matters worse the lyrics are shit. If I watch music reaction videos on TH-cam I only watch ones hosted by older people, because young people only seem to pay attention to the beat or how high or long a singer can hold a note. They can react to a song with profound lyrics and never mention them. I saw a reaction to John Lennon’s extremely hard hitting “Working Class Hero” and the only thing this guy commented on was that he liked Lennon’s voice. After that I’m careful about who I watch.
There is still amazing music. It's just stuff you have to look for and not what you hear on the radio.
Absolutely loved Terry Kath. Chicago back then was a much different band. They were Jazz-Fusion / Rock and Pop. But when Terry died they became more of a ballad driven band.
Who today can sound this INCREDIBLE LIVE?
Check out Leonid & Friends version of 25 or 6 to 4 .
@@marktizzard47 They are excellent.
They could sound this good or better today because they have Auto-Tune and everything else they have to make their sound better whereas back in the 70s there were no enhancements when you were playing live and you had to be a good musician or singer
Lovebites.
@sammybeck7794 I believe auto-tune is processed after and not live. Many people today sound like crap live!
You nailed it, they are a jazz fusion band. I'm 69 years old and I started listening to them when they were the Chicago Transit authority.. what would have happened if Terry didn't die so young
I'm 65. Same thing here, bud!
@@lisawall3386 69
I'm 69 also and saw them 3 times with Terry and most recently in 2016 with Earth, Wind, and Fire. Decent show but definitely not even close to the early Chicago!
Pete Cetera. Bass player and singing this song. "Four marines didn't like a long-haired rock 'n' roller in a baseball park," he later recounted. "And of course, I was a Cub fan, and I was in Dodger Stadium, and that didn't do so well. I got in a fight and got a broken jaw in three places, and I was in intensive care for a couple of days."
While he recovered, he admitted it did literally impact his craft. "The only funny thing I can think about the whole incident is that, with my jaw wired together, I actually went on the road," he explained. "And I was actually singing through my clenched jaw, which, to this day, is still the way I sing."
In southeast Michigan there is an outdoor venue called Pine Knob. Chicago would come in the summer a play every night for a week. They would do charity baseball games to bid time during the day. I saw them there when Chicago IV was out.
Every time I hear this it brings me to tears that the world was robbed of this guitar talent.,
That entire concert is fire.
Always liked Chicago. And why not? Awesome band. And this live performance only ups my respect for them. This CAN'T be an easy song to perform live. I ain't no musician, but i get the feeling that this is the case. Pure raw talent. I am usually disappointed in live performances on RVC'S, but not this time. Cetera kills it.
Being old now is a small price to pay for being young when all that great music was new.
To add into my first lengthy comment. 25 or 6 to 4 refers to 25 minutes or 26 minutes till 4 AM. And Robert Lamb wrote this sitting cross leg in the floor in the apartment or hotel room in the second floor in Hollywood with the flashing lights going on trying to figure out what he was going to say.
Chicago is the only complete band. What do I mean by complete? They do it all singing, strings ,brass a lot of band have you but what separated them is that they are a master at percussion instruments which makes them complete. React to I'm a Man live and listen to the percussion
Terry Kath is Chicago, glad you got to see the vibe that they have for each other!
RIP TK🌹
They were a few bands did it but not as much as Chicago
Wonderful Band. Saw them live and they were really good. The were Great with Terry Kath Wonderful Reaction as Always 👍🏻
Terry Kath was an exceptional guitarist. His shooting was accidental. He had an semi-automatic pistol, which he thought it was empty, he even checked the empty magazine but did not check the chamber before putting it to his head.
I always Thought he was drunk and playing Russian Roulette. No? But even Stone cold sober and thinking a gun is empty, I’m sorry, but it’s insane to put a gun to your head and pull the trigger. It’s tempting fate.
@@utubnagain Thanks , yes semi auto and magazine. I'm not a gun aficionado, didn't know it was not a clip.
@@w.geoffreyspaulding6588such a ridiculous way to die Ugg r.I.p.
Played Russian roulette and not the first time by accounts.
The immortal Terry Kath! (Rest easy, brother)
Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Terry Kath at his finest. RIP
Chicago: a testament of the incredible musical talent to come out of this era.
Terry Kath's era of Chicago is iconic! My favorite of his era is "Color or Colour my World"
Jimmy Page is so far below Terry !!! A studio guitarist vs a god of guitar ....❤❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😢😢😢😢😢
Never start with live anything. The artists put so much work into making their perfect version on the original recording, not something they had to drudge through every night.
I prefer live you can see who is doing what and feel the energy In fact I find the guitar solo here far superior to the record
There are so many contributing factors that determine the quality of a live performance. The venue, the energy of the audience, the sound quality, even the mood and condition of the band members. But when everything aligns, that’s when the magic is created. I’ve seen so many live performances that totally outshine the studio track. It doesn’t always go that way, but I’ll still take my chances on the live performance.
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@@randyhochstein8455 Nope, strongly disagree. Never heard a live one better than studio. The true test is listen without a video and you will see this sucks compared to the studio.
@@randyhochstein8455 I totally agree I was a stagehand at mjor venues here in NY for 40 years and nothing bests a live concert if done right. Comfortably Numb on the Pulse DVD is better than the record even without Waters
One of the best bands and still one of the best bands. Still going strong after 55 plus years with Robert Lamm leading, (Original member) is still performing and having fun at 78 years old! Also have to mention that two out of the three original brass section is still with the band as well...Lee Loughnane - trumpet, flugelhorn, backing vocals and James Pankow - trombone, backing vocals.
Without the context of the studio version, this has less impact and little to reference for new Chicago listens. Even though it sounds similar it is also vastly different in many ways. This is a (should be) showcase performance after hearing some of their songs. It just works better that way.
No behind the scenes magic. Straight up live playing.
My very first concert as a tween in the early 70's. I especially remember when they did this song. So loud (but so good) that my ears were ringing for hours!
Another Group popular at the same time as Chicago is Bood, Sweat, and Tears...listen to 'You've Made Me So Very Happy'.
If you want to experience an absolute TRIUMPH of a tribute to Chicago, check out "Leonid and Friends" version of 25 or 6 to 4. (and their other Chicago covers). They are true to the music.
A great introduction to a unique musical subgrouping - The Brass Jazz Rock groups - can be a rather deep rabbit hole - including. but not limited to Chicago; Blood, Sweat, & Tears, Chase, Earth Wind and Fire, and Lighthouse (from Canada. All solid musically and all had different flavors to the mix.
Hey! Check out “Questions 67 & 68” by Chicago! It is their best song EVER!
I'm fortunate to have been there on July 21, 1970. I was stationed at Subnarine Base New London, Ct at the time and Tanglewood was fairly easy to get to. This whole concert was great.
I must recommend Leonid & Friends, a Chicago tribute band from Ukraine/Russia. They also cover B, S, & T. They had a Spring US Tour & plan to return this Fall. They have many YT videos to enjoy.
It was at least the 4th song. Not the sound check. Problem with cymbal during concert. That's why he said "The usual" Yes, Terry was on FIRE! He also sings. Check him out in ----> Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon" Tanglewood 1970 .....and be sure it is 14 minutes to get the whole song and not the cutouts. Also on TH-cam ---> Terry Kath and Chicago, "Wishing You Were Here", '74 New Year's Rockin' Eve .... They did it with the backing vocals of the Beach Boys.
Once you know what the song is about, the lyrics make perfect sense. It's a song about writing a song. Up all night trying to put it together. Now listen again....
One of my favorite Chicago songs!! You guys will love Chicago! The studio version of this is ridiculous too!!
I cannot believe though you do not seem to have any Creedence Clearwater Revival in your playlist of reactions.
One of the most iconic bands of the late 60's-early 70's era.
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You two always do great reactions, and this one's no different but ... I really wish you would've done the studio version first but, whatever. Although he (Terry Kath, the lead guitarist) really went off on this, the studio solos and lead fills were Epic ... much better and more controlled. Both are great, but you should've stuck to your normal plan of attack, studio first, then live.
Peter Cetra is just amazing. You should check out some of his solo work from the 80s. His first single after leaving Chicago was "Glory of Love" a song from the Karate Kid 2 sound track. It's an amazing track.
When I first heard this in 1970, it drew me into the Chicago unique style and instrument ensemble. One of the first to combine brass/rock instruments and sooo good. A huge band, six I think on stage, very full sound and one of a kind in it's day!
7 on stage.
Hard to believe Peter Cetera could sing with his mouth wired semi closed.
Where were you when you heard the news on Terry? I was driving on the Eisenhower...and my eyes turned blurry.
Been watching some of your videos and people are turning you on to some good stuff from back in the day to listen too.
We had so much great music and musicians back in that era, it will never be duplicated much less surpassed.
WHAT A GREAT TIME TO GROW UP IN.
IN COLLEGE WALKING THROUGH THE QUAD WITH THE FINE LADIES AND THIS BLASTING OUT OF DORM WINDOWS. COULDN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN THAT.
Chicago was a very popular group back when I was in High School. I think I had like four of their albums until I joined the service and my younger sisters helpedthemselves to my record collection.😂😅
I hope you'll check out the studio version - I think it's far superior to this.
Interesting you guys chose a live version instead of the original song for your first reaction. 🤔 This version has a lot of sounds and feeling missing from the studio version
They were repairing a broken cymbal at the beginning
Chicago went across decades. They had some huge hits in my high school days in the eighties.
Their best stuff was in the 70s before peter cetera drove them into ballad, mushy music.
Cool reaction. The song "25 or 6 to 4" by Chicago is about the process of writing a song. The title refers to the time of day when the song was written, 25 or 26 minutes before 4 AM. The song's writer, Robert Lamm, was living in a house in the Hollywood Hills at the time and could see the city below him late at night. He was feeling inspired and wrote the song about his experience. The song has a driving beat and a catchy melody, and it has become one of Chicago's most popular songs.
One of the defining rock bands of the '70's. Thanks for your reaction.
Don't neglect the studio version......
Studio version must better, although it's nice to see the boys in action.
The late 60s and 70s was the best time, musically, to be a yound adult. I am glad to see new people discovering what we had. I bjnge watched your channel yesterday and absolutely love you both!
Oh my God Chicago must have 50 hits
My favorite Chicago song.
Screw this. You need to listen to the studio version
You have just entered the ethereal moment when man and instrument become one and the gods collide
I listened to the beginning at least a dozen times when they were doing the sound check and suddenly broke nto the start of the song. So cool.
There's a Chicago Tribute band called Leonid & Friends, who are from Russia
and Ukraine, who have toured the U.S. many times in concert. They do all these
old Chicago songs and are beyond unbelievable. Not only with regard to being
world class musicians, their singers are equally as good. I can guarantee that
you won't be disappointed. In fact they also performed the iconic 'Ides Of March'
classic called 'Vehicle', and when the lead singer of 'Ides' heard their rendition
he thought it was he himself and the whole original group performing.
I saw Chicago in '71 and of course this doesn't do it justice, remember at least half the crowd was stoned the sound was over whelming - just an amazing time and amazing music.
Make me smile is a great song by Chicago
Chicago one of a few horn bands of the day-their closest rival being Blood Sweat & Tears(Spinning Wheel, and When I Die, Hi-De-Ho, Lucretia MacEvil, Lisa Listen to Me, Go Down Gamblin, God Bless The Child). Other horn bands Ides Of March (Vehicle), Lighthouse (One fine Morning, Pretty Lady), cliff Nobles & Co. (The Horse) and chase (Get It On).
Johnny Cash ( 25 mins to go )... keep your gratitude higher than your expections .... HAKAD
I was 17 . Sweet music, sweet memories. A little sad. Still strong and Rocking. 😎
I saw them for the first time, not long after this show. They were amazing. The next 7 or 8 times I saw them, they were still great.
Chicago went on to record some huge hits with their new lead; Peter Cetera. Like, ‘If you leave me now” and “Hard To Say I’m Sorry”. Huge hits! Wait, There is so much more!
It was trash after Kath died
@@davidschmidbauer3930 Don’t hate! They had many hits after his death. You can’t say they didn’t! With that said, it does not take the star power away from Terry Kath. RIP TK!
@@dwainwilder7337 I didn’t say they didn’t have any hits post-Kath. I said they were trash. They became a different band with none of the edge Kath gave them. If you like that fluff with no substance, that’s fine. You weren’t the only one.
I prefer songs like this to the balladeering after Kath died.
They estimated that it was 25 or 6 minutes until 4:00am in the morning and they were still up working on this song. The song is about how burnt out they were and debated whether or not to stop. They worked through the night and finally finished the song that turned out to be one of their greatest hits!❤❤
What was happening at the beginning was they were having some trouble with the drums. One of the symbols appeared to be messed up so you saw the stage guy out there helping the drummer get it fixed while Terry Cath (the guitar player) was trying to keep the crowd occupied with some noodling on his guitar until they got it fixed before he busted out on the song. By the way, the accidental shooting happened after a party at one of the roadie's house. He started playing around with a .38 revolver pistol, spinning it on his finger and putting it to his head several times and pulling the trigger . His friend kept warning him to be careful. Then he picked up a 9mm pistol. Showed his friend there were no bullets in the clip and placed it back in the gun. Unfortunately he didn't know there was a bullet in the chamber and when he put the gun to his head and pulled the trigger it killed him instantly. At. the time this happened in 1978, I personally remember it was being reported that he was playing "Russian roulette" but that doesn't seem to actually be the case since he thought there were no rounds in the gun. If you watch the movie, "The Deer Hunter" and you'll see the game of Russian Roulette demonstrated.
One of the greatest songs ever recorded and shared with us- performed by regular guys just playing great music on a street corner in down town Chicago
Excellent choice!
Que'd this performance so many times - it's just phenomenal \m/
Nice reaction y'all 🖒🖒
The reason for the cymbal adjustment in the beginning, the drummer had his time to shine and knocked it out of place. Terry Kath on guitar, he was just amazing to watch.
I'm pretty sure this song came out in 1968. A great band.
YOU HAVE TO DO STUDIO VERSION,,,,,STILL MY FAVORITE CHICAGO SONG !!! THANK YOU
Probably my favorite piece. I remember when my high school band played this in the stands at a football game. They blew it away. Especially with the horn section. Probably the reason I took up the trumpet.
If you like fine music you can not go wrong with Chicago. They have the best musicians and re-introduced 'horns' to America. Not to mention introducing a rock generation to jazz!
Always love watching Terry Kath cover the drum malfunction in the beginning, very well done.
25 or 6 to four is the time in the morning. He is trying to stay awake and finish writing a song.
Jimi was absolutely correct, Terry Kath was a BEAST!!!
This entire concert “Chicago At Tanglewood 1970” is on TH-cam for free. Well worth watching, not one bad song.
Jazz rock fusion started in the late 60's. One of the earliest bands was Sweetwater. Although most people have no idea who Sweetwater was because they were short lived. The singer Nancy got in a bad car accident in Glendale CA. She was hit by a drunk driver on the 405 fwy. She was in a coma with a trach tube that affected her vocal chords so Alex (the bands founder) broke up the band because no one knew, not even Nancy if she would ever be able to sing again. They were however the first band that played at Woodstock 1969. Not the first performer, just the first band.
In an interview Hendrix was asked "How does it feel to be the best rock guitarist in the world." he replied with "I don't know, you would have to ask Terry Kath"