The whole wheelchair thing really frustrates me. Because it's always people who don't actually understand what it's like to fight for handicapped access to buildings. Doorknobs have caused problems for me in the past, which seems trivial, but that's real life when you have cerebral palsy. It's not all roses. When I was introduced to the tabletop RPG hobby, it was an epiphany. All of a sudden, the doctors telling me I would never drive a car, I would lose the ability to walk by the time I was 18 years old. All of that went away. I could be literally whatever the hell I wanted to be. I could be normal. Hell, better than normal. I could play some badass barbarian or Fire-slinging mage or some other fantastic badass character that didn't have to worry about pain and legs or arms or randomly dropping objects or twitching uncontrollably And having everybody stare at you like you're a freak. But at the table, all of that goes away. I don't have to deal with any of it. Why would I want to bring that experience to the table? It's not fun. Is having fun too much to ask for these people?
I feel for you, brother. Tjere's a huge difference between not letting a disability get in the way of something that CAN be overcome and fetishizing it for virtue signal points.
@@DiversityDragons its not bad, just annoying. I just don't understand why these idiots continue to push this stuff when a majority of disabled gamers are in this hobby to get away from the minutia. What's next after wheel chairs? Strength checks to open jars? Better get your +2 jar openers ready.
@@Arnsteel634 In a world like D&D and stuff where there's literal magical artificers tho? Magic flying Lizards that breath fire? Magic swords that can set themselves alight and do additional fire damage? Why not?
This video is spot on - thanks DD. There have been several women in my gaming groups going all the way back to my first group back in the early 80's. Real geek girls have been a part of the hobby since the beginning, and had no desire to change it. As you point out, only when the ttrpg hobby became a target of cultural Marxists did this current BS begin. It's not really feminine thought, so much as intersectional feminism.
I agree 100%. Feminism is much more the problem than masculinity or femininity. There's nothing "feminine" about screaming on the internet and imposing your views on others through having a public meltdown
I am playing in a Basic Fantasy RPG group. Early in our campaign, maybe in the first session (I am not sure), a character died from a trap inspired by Grimstooth's Traps. Our attitude was, "Oh well. Roll a new character." No one had a meltdown. No X cards. We just moved on. People who have read the rules know that BFRPG (like B/X on which it is based) is brutal compared to the superhero game popularly known as 5E.
@wim3864 If someone came to my table talking about X Cards they would be told to get lost quickly. I have talked to my players about X-Cards and the majority (maybe one or two) haven't even heard of X Cards. X cards failed to catch on which is a good thing.
The entire nerd culture has been overtaken by the grown up versions of your little sister calling Mom to let her play with your toy and making it all about herself
Your comment reminds me of George Alexopoulos' comic strips in which a blue haired SJW demands to join a game (in the name of inclusivity) and then changes everything and kicks out anyone who objects (again, all in the name of inclusivity).
@@wilm3864 I may not be the best GM in the world, but I'm pretty good. My game doesn't even try to pretend that it's inclusive. It's EXCLUSIVE. I only play with people that are hand-selected to make sure the experience works for all involved.
I agree that our culture has been feminized for a multitude of reasons (one reason being too many men have bought into it due to the promise of fewer responsibilities) That being said, my wife is my favorite player at the table, hands down its not even close.
@@DiversityDragons Thank goodness! I only just discovered this channel. FINALLY someone chatting about the hobby I like who actually goddamn knows wtf Cultural Marxism is!
I'm a 40-something woman who is what I like to call an "extreme tomboy". I grew up with three sisters. I am absolutely the outlier. None of them were interested in the things I was interested in because they were actually feminine girls. I knew I was, and still am, the weird one. I think I get along with guys as well as I do because I've never made me being female the center of anything when I'm around them. If I want to do something, I'll do it because I want to, not to make a statement. I'm currently in an RPG campaign where I'm the only female. I don't think about it. Not sure if the guys do, and if they do it's certainly not from me pushing it into the game. All I care about is having fun with the rest of the group.
Some of my best players have been women but like you said, they never made the fact they were women a big deal, it had nothing to do with their decision or playstyles. The hijacking of TTRPGs by the "progressive types" have been ruining RPGs. Spot on takes DD
There has to be balance which is why one of the greatest campaigns and campaign worlds (in my opinion) was created by a man and woman I am of course speaking of Dragonlance and Krynn created by Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis back in the 80's
Just one more comment Div&Drag. I think it’s a fascinating notion that boys when playing imbue themselves with the powers/talents/shtick of their heroes, and that girls imbue their heroes with their talents. Hadn’t considered it but it seems possible.
Masculinity and femminity both matter, the world needs men and women without both we wouldn't survive. a lot of the stuff you have said in your videos has helped me with my mental health and I appreciate it.
The current conception of what "feminine" is supposed to be, is the most anti-feminine thing in existence. In the 5eD&D game that I am running, RPG Grandma often takes the mantle of leader of the party, not because she's a woman, but because she has been playing since the 70s, so she is the most experienced member of the party; also in the fiction, since her character is an older female minotaur artificer from the Barrier Peaks 🤣
Being a new DM to 5e but having roots in old school AD&D, I still try to keep my game rough n tumble. Violence is hardcore and Orcs are deadly and are a joy to kill. If players aren’t into it, they can find another table to play at.
I agree with you on most of this but when you made remarks about accessibility in tabletop gaming, I had to step in and comment. I'm legally blind and have been forcing my way through tabletop gaming since long before it started going all digital. Now that it has, it has never been more accessibleto those with disabilities. In regards to the combat wheelchair, I personally don't see anything wrong with it and it's like simply because they're cool fantasy ideas and I have always lived by the rule of cool in my tabletop gaming. Granted, not every disabled character in my worlds would have one and they would be given an interesting backstory as to how the player got one, but the option would be available. I don't let people play token disabled characters though, the type who's disability is their personality. I stand by the fact that a good group doesn't need safewords or x cards because they hashed all that out in advance and understand where the limits are, which should be very clear in most cases... don't try to get away with stuff you do with friends in a public game because it won't always work.
It's never affected my games in the slightest, and I dropped Wotc years ago when I sold my DND collection. I'm can't wait to finish my system and release it for others to try. Social pressure won't influence my design. It's gonna be fun!🍺
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Not yet. I'm still developing the core mechanics and how I want the dice to work. It's like a puzzle, and each new piece reveals something awesome. The most important thing that I've learned is test as you build. What looks good on paper isn't always practical. 🍺 Edit: I've got the core mechanics, but they're in a never ending state of revision as I build other systems and compare, then revise. It's fun but time consuming.
@@MrWhite5150Duke I can relate to. I've been working on my worldbuilding during almost 30 years. I know it's not gonna be fun friendly, so I decided to just stick to my vision, and ue the core mechanics to explain how my world works... and it's getting grittier.
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Cool! Edit: I'm with you on long term design. My story stuff (the setting) has been developing since 1992ish. But the mechanics have changed to something I haven't found anywhere else. Not entirely original, but a significant mechanic isn't found elsewhere, which is exciting.
The Gm/DM at my game table (I run two games currently) are the leader and my ruling is final and respected by my players. I have run many games and that has been true. I think while the DM/GM isn't the leader (Their ruling is final) does happen, I don't think it happens that often and when it does happen, it happens with crappy GMs/DMs and I dont game with them anyway. I have quit games with crappy DM's/GM's. I am moving more into OSR and loving it. One the games I am currently running is Old School Essentials.
What the fuck did I walk into? I just was looking into an Review of the Grim & Perilous TTRPG, because I like the Blackbirds TTRPG. (Side note: Was looking to get maybe a Campaign going over Foundry VTT for some quick fun with Friends, as Brancalonia is only available in italian on there. Fuck that, Grim & Perilous seems fucking awful for some easy fun.) I dont know what is going on around here, but for a channel called Diversity & Dragons everyone around here sure as hell seems to be old, grumpy and hating on diversity?! Am I missing something? Is this a Doomer hideout? I mean I love hating on bad writers (privileged Liberal Millennial with a Funko Pop collection, you exactly know the type I am talking about) just as much as the next guy, but this seems extensive. But maybe I am just not deep enough in this bubble as I primarily play Homebrew Campaigns I wrote myself. Own Lore, own Worldbuilding, own Core Rule Book, own Monsters, own World. And I play with my close friends. No bullshit, no playing with people I barely even know nor I dont even fucking like. My time and writing is way to precious to waste it on people that dont even share the same passion as I do. I like being a writer, I like writing Fantasy. I mean honestly, whats even the problem? You can choose WHAT you want to play, you can choose with WHO you want to play. There will always be TTRPG material for everyone and if there isnt make it yourself. The only person I see destroying any kind of table is the DM, the people playing at the table. You let them in. You decide, nobody else. So why care what other people do at their table, with their table? How is any of this affection us? Are people afraid of not being able to find like-minded people anymore? I played most of my Campaigns at tables only filled with Women, lusting over Mind Flayers like some common Whores. All of them, a bunch of Monster Fuckers. What does this mean? Nothing, nothing at all as long as everyone at the table is comfortable (optimal. I will traumatize you. I will have horrific world building. Your character is gonna suffer horrors beyond comprehension) and having fun. Honestly, who cares what a bunch of grifters have to say about D&D? About anything at all? Its about letting go. Let them do whatever the fuck they want to do. Eventually they will fail, if there is no audience for it. And if there is actually an audience, that just means there is gonna be something new. Someone is gonna fill the void created. Creating something for you and me, something for all of us. My most recent example of that is the Witchers Netflix series. I was fumming so hard over what they did with the Witcher Neftlix series. An absolute disaster, being held together by the only Guy that cared. Henry Cavill. Than I just stopped. It wasnt healthy, nor did it help. I didnt watch it, I stopped thinking about it. Simply paid no attention to it whatsoever. What good comes from getting angry or mad over it, getting emotional over it? Nothing. What can we witness currently? It blew up all in their face. What rises out of the ashes? Hopefully an authentic and well-written Warhammer 40k series directed by Henry Cavill.
😄 That was a sprawling answer for sure. You may not dig the channel completely, as I do cover the politicization of this hobby by leftists. I also do straight gaming content, though. That might be more in your wheelhouse. I did a nice summary why I thought Birthright was the best setting TSR ever did as well as a house rule on using a d8 mechanic for chases.
Also have you seen jester in action? That character is a fucking monster. Also KARLACH? No beefy women, no men playing barbarians? Bro have you MET my lizardfolk? Man got the nickname of “Gorak the table smasher on day 1”
One thing I'm constantly annoyed by, both when "leftists" engage in it and when people like yourself respond to it, is the very notion of "cultural" Marxism. If we go back to Marx, it's all about how material conditions or an economic system/structure is the base from which a cultural superstructure is constructed. What this means is culture emerges from the conditions of production, or the way we who live in the world make our wages. The notion that including wheelchairs in a fantasy game or having the X card or whatever has anything to do with economic democracy or proletarian control of the means of production is just... laughable. It's irrelevant. The ugly truth for "leftists" to accept is that the battle cannot be won in your favorite fandom, online, by buying the right products, or anything of the sort. I wish both the right and the left had a stronger sense of what Marxism is so we could talk about woke-ism or whatever without applying wildly inaccurate labels.
Feminine thought is not the problem. Feminine thought is beautiful. FEMINIST thought IS ruining it. These two things could not be further apart from each other IMO.
Players in my campaign "The Ten Thousand Islands : a world of Vikings and Greeks" frequently are challenged to deal with slavery, torture and sophont-sacrifice, etc. ... some players do get uncomfortable.
+1 for outstanding coverage of this topic.... this is 100% true. Great book called "becoming a barbarian" by jack donovan that addresses this very topic on a societal scale... and RPGs are a perfect microcosm of what happens with toxic femininity. (referred to as the Mother of Exiles in the book)
A little feminine energy at the table can be a great thing. Especially if she's a good RP'er and/or a classic geek girl who 'gets' it. But past a certain point it is absolute death to much/most of the enjoyment of playing RPG's in the first place. Between the Dangerhairs turning everything into their own personal therapy session, and the thirsty beta-male orbiters and their weapons-grade simping for anything female, we need to gatekeep the F out of the hobby.
@@deathstar013 That's literally what gatekeeping means, just on a smaller scale. The issue is precisely the same - a small number of pushy, needy and neurotic personality types can very easily manipulate a larger group into adopting incredibly toxic behaviour just to placate them. It is much easier to pre-emptively block the sort of censorious, authoritarian personality types from ever getting into positions of influence, than it is to mitigate the damage they do once they're entrenched. Its even harder when they've colonized a franchise to the point where there are no dissenting voices.
Yes, there have always been people that have gone overboard with ideas. If every explanation for inequity were explained through racism or sexism, then you'd be saving a lot of people a lot of time and money on education and these problems would be easy to solve. The problem is, of course, that these problem are not simplistic single cause and effect and treating them as such creates their own set of problems. I understand the impulse. You feel righteous in defending what you see as virtue and seeing that validated by members of your group feels good. If you're being even slightly honest, you also get a little bit of perverse joy sticking it to the other guy. In the past, you ran into these people in college and these ideas did not survive a few years of life in the real world after graduation. The activists went out and did something useful like grassroots politics. Now, they don't contribute anything. Their purpose is to "own" the other side in social discourse which accomplishes nothing other than driving other views underground. It does not change opinions. You sort of yearn for real Marxists to show up. The idea that the intellectual leaders of the left come from the privileged ranks of Hollywood, the music industry, influencers, business, or high society would be offensive to any real Marxist. But these new breed of activists have no faith in any other institution, including those that propose to represent their interests, so that's the best they can do. The great divide is not going to survive the transition from the Boomer generation to the younger generations just as the divide in the period 60s-80s did not last. At some point there will be a reset. Until then, we just have to endure this transitionary stage.
The good news is that nothing solves these problems like year after year of four percent GDP growth. The last time around you went from the turbulence and anxiety of the 60s and 70s, and ended up with 12 years of Reagan/Bush. Funny how economic prosperity cures all problems.
I'm coming around to the idea that the US, and North America in general, may be coming into a new Golden Age. It's not that we are political and economic geniuses, it that the risk premiums in Europe, Africa, Middle East, and Asia are too high and capital has to go somewhere. Anyone want to spend their capital budget on opening a big plant in Ukraine or Taiwan right now? When that happens, a lot of this social angst will go away.
My experience with tabletop gaming (which dates back to the late 70’s) was that female influence helped shift the emphasis of the game toward the narrative instead of being purely statistical. Mind you, this was before the nonsense of grievance politics.
Feminism (the "first wave") was invented by a Friedrich Engels as an attempt to push marxism into the women's vote movement. There is no version of feminism that doesn't have a marxist influence.
The OGL being irrevocable is a fail safe for the current freak show. Content will continue to be made by independent creators for previous editions despite the freaks attempts to destroy the game.
This is some alarmist bullshit. The index card letting people know it’s too tough? Dudes say the military is implementing that too it’s always the next basic training cycle and you know what it’s never been done. And for checklists about what people are okay with, that comes from trauma so severe that you can have panic attacks from being brought back into that frame of mind. Be more worldly I’m not saying some of the things implemented aren’t ridiculous but to say that dnd has gone downhill because of SJW’s is stupid. D&D has specifically gone down due to cash grabs as you call them or more commonly known as corporate greed. Which if you look around is the source of a lot of issues we are facing today, and also why there is a hard pushback for socialist policies.
While I agree with your opinions and sentiments about cultural marxism, respectfully, I think blaming "femininity," as opposed to FEMINISM goes too far. When I see the stereotypical screaming leftist on the internet I see the worst of both stereotypical femininity (emotionality, fearfulness) and stereotypical masculinity (anger, aggression, pushiness). There's nothing ladylike (or manly) about this behavior. Furthermore, receptivity and gentleness are also traits associated with femininity and it wouldn't be unfeminine of a woman who joins a group of RPG playing men to conform to their playstyle, or, at least, be compassionate towards it and not try to nag them into changing. Finally, I see nothing wrong with a group of boys playing knights and adventurerers at one table, a group of men playing a grim dark evil campaign at another, a group of women playing princesses and fairies somewhere else still. The fact that WoTC is demonizing and distancing themselves from white male players and DMs is a problem because, frankly, its racist, sexist and a betrayal of their original fanbase, but a group of women playing a feminized version of DND and not imposing their playstyle on others or claiming its the only way to play isn't a bad thing either. I do, however, strongly agree with you about boys playing RPGs together - I think it's a great way for boys to learn heroic virtues, storytelling as well as communication skills. I think especially for shy boys who struggle to make friends, its a wonderful tool because you can still have social interaction without awkwardly struggling to find a topic to discuss. While I think there are some benefits to it for girls too, I think it has a bit more appeal for boys because of the adventurous/heroic element. I have seen male friendships form over RPGs between guys who would otherwise have felt too shy/awkward to reach out to other men to talk about life in general or random topics.
I would say the real people in wheelchairs or with disabilities would be the most apposed to giving there imaginary characters that are not special treatment..most in real life situations reject all of this safe space trash.
I love how the people who try to insert disabilities and mental illness into ttrpgs have absolutely no idea about the subjects. Even those who claim as such in the industry do such a disservice to the topic. I.e. the "autistic" self-insert in The Book of Many Things made by an "autistic" creator.
Spot on… the game is an escape…. Who wouldn’t want a break from their wheel chair? It is just another group think virtue signal that does nothing for disabled players. It is more about getting attention or trumpeting victim status than anything else. Disabilities are welcome at my table, those afflicted with a victim mentality who want to reorganize everything around their immature feelings are not.
It can certainly go both ways. I've had my grueling gaming sessions with your stereotypical SJWs and debated them many times when they tried to rewrite lore and mechanics. But I ran a CoC scenario I wrote at a packed, four day long RPG gathering for a newbie woman two days ago, where the party had to fight TED Klein's Xo tl'mi-go. Imagine X-Files Flukemen with a fisting fetish. Her character wasn't targeted by them, but every dangerhair under the Sun would've been triggered by what they uncovered during the game. She loved it and will be one of the good ones.
Oh damn i my bad I didn't think I was gonna walk into a group of incels bitching and crying cause something doesn't go their way once in a few millenia, I thought there was gonna be some nuanced social take. I'm not a man hater btw i have a dad, a brother, male cousins and even male friends 😔
Haha same. This is just "women are allowed in a space I'm gatekeeping as long as they behave in a way I find appropriate for women to act". So gross. I've played DnD for decades and nothing makes me happier than more women finding out that not all games of DnD are toxic games DMd by misogynistic men like this guy 🤢 The space has grown a lot and it's nice to see the change in the space to be more inclusive.
@@CallistoTheWarriorQueen I'll break the news to my wife and daughter at our next gaming session. They'll be crushed to know their DM, dad and husband is an "incel mysoginist. 😄 You two are exactly the ones giving women in gaming a bad name. Take your Xcard and GTFO.😘
@@CallistoTheWarriorQueen yep, as far as I see it, people like them making those videos is like a desperate cry for help trying to fight against a wave they can't stop 😂🌊
The one guy about wheelchairs is, for a lack of a better word, a SIMP. A guy who is sucking up hoping to be liked without a single critical thought in his head. He also doesn't understand the argument being made. He also ignores that in a world where daily survival is a struggle built entirely on the survival of the fittest, crippled people would not even exist because society wouldn't cater to them or even care for them at all as they'd be an undue burden. That is how almost all of history and many places still exist today. You're too busy trying to ensure that you have enough food and supplies to make it through the winter each year, or to not be killed by some horrible beast, no one will care for a crippled person. They aren't going to waste time and effort making wheelchairs, they're too busy just trying to not die themselves. But it's a way os conflating his comfortable, modernized life and stupidly thnking that's how things always were or always should have been. It shows extreme privilege on his part and extreme ignorance too. My wife played D&D with us and now is in one of my C&C games. She hates this crap as much as the rest of us do. Though she's not a narcissist who needs to see themselves in everything.
Disagree somewhat, one of the hallmarks discovered by archeology that proved Civilization was the fact of a injury, broken arm that was allowed to heal because that person was cared for by others.
What gets me about the stupid combat wheelchair is that with the amount of magic in that thing, there's no way some broken street dweller is affording it any more than they are affording a magical back repair. So that guy's entire point about universal healthcare (ugh) is moot anyway because no enchanter is going to give that shit away for free. If you're paying obscene amounts of gold for a +1 Sword of [insert effect], there is zero chance you're not paying even more obscene amounts of gold for an unbreakable chair that can float over obstacles and essentially acts as armor. The entire thing is absolutely idiotic if you take even a moment to think about it. But of course most people don't, pat the autistic creator on the back, and say "stunning and brave."
Not necessarily. In Medieval Europe, on which DND was originally based, people lived by Christian values and there were monasteries dedicated to helping the poor and sick (see: Knights of Saint John, Saint Francis of Assissi). Christianity sees suffering and sacrifice as a value because through prayer you can unite your suffering with Christ and you can suffer to do penance for your sins, so ending someone's life because they were suffering through neglect or directly was seen as a grave sin. There weren't "combat wheelchairs," but people weren't habitually left out in the streets to die either. That being said, some people did have a "survival of the fittest" mentality and in the early middle ages, as well as other parts of the world, pagan religions were practiced and their views on suffering and survival of the fittest varied. Medieval people weren't as "backwards" and brutal as modern medial portrays them. That being said, in a fantasy world with fantasy gods, you can decide to have a Medieval Europe-like setting without Christian values.
One of the things that is greatly concerning me, is the oversensitivety I am seeing in these games. Now to clarify, what I speak of is in the form of D&D horror stories, Crit Crab, Crispy's Tavern and Sir Knox are but 3 that twll these horror stories. There are others, but typically there is zlot of talk of people being unconfirtable, bad DM's and players alike and some situations that hale in real life ramifications. Have you experienced any such incidents, back in the 80's what was it like, has D&D truly been stripped of it's former glory? At present I am getting more prepared for 5th Edition as I have the monster manual and Dungeon Masters Guide, I just need the player manual. I have 4 sets of dice(additional 2 sets from the two starter editions I own) and so I just need backup chr sheets. I would prefer to print out the sheets that use the first ones I got. So yeah, as far as I have seen, it's more than just this Feminine Thought that is a problem and in other news that WOTC has cut ties with people that is starting to spell doom for the game. I fear that I may be to late for the long haul, but time will tell. You are very well spoken and I appreciate hearing this telling!}:>]
A consent form might be important during session zero with a new group, but not if your group consists of the same four guys for the last twenty years. The X card, on the other hand, is just asinine.
Im just gonna assume alot of the negative comments are getting deleted cause there's no way this much blatant misogyny isn't getting criticized. Women aren't all just precious snowflakes that wants everything to be cute and cuddly. "Games are worse when they have women" fk off with that sht the best players I've had have all been women because they're usually way more emotionally invested into the games. You just come off as a guy thats mad that he said blatantly sexist, racist, rapey, and offensive stuff in a game and got called an asshole. Maybe instead of getting mad people got offended when you said offensive stuff, dont say offensive stuff? Me asking my dms to not include pedophilia and player character rape isn't me being "womanly", neither is me asking my players before I start a campaign if there are anything that trigger them me being a "mama bear caring for snowflakes", its that ive had severe trauma and ptsd and have the basic fucking empathy to recognize others may have the same to not do so to others. Masculinity isn't bad, neither is femininity bad, but toxic masculinity, where everything has to be uber tough without emotion, what you have, absolutely fucking is. Since when did caring about peoples trauma become a bad thing
I don't think they're being deleted, a lot of people really are this fucked up. Some people will get behind any and all misogyny enablers they find online so they can jack off in each other's mouths about their sexist conspiracies, spill their poison around and disrespectfully and arrogantly shut up anyone else who dares to call them out, like this guy just did with your comment. But on the other hand, the fact that this video has 3k views (literally the same amount of subscribers the channel has lmfao), under 500 likes and only around 200 comments, means it's probably safe to assume that this misogynistic dickhead here is just profiting off of people clicking on his sexist and shocking video titles just out of the shocking titles alone, and most just go away after that initial annoyance. It's a particularly pathetic but highly exploitable model that a lot of "influencers" use to create their own self-contained circlejerk "safe haven for advocates of hate speech" communities, while also profiting off the little attention they get from shock value. I mean look at the numbers this video has vs the active viewers and genuine support the channel is able to retain beyond one video, this is just fast food-type throwaway junk content for a relatively select group of shit people. It's an ugly sight yes, but also a waste of time.
And I would just like to say, I care about your trauma and would love to hear about it I’d you ever need someone just to listen, because GUESS WHAT DUMBASS CREATOR, I CAN DEMOLISH YOUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE AND EVERY ARGUMENT WITH THE 16 YEARS OF TRAMA IVE ACQUIRED. Yes, I am a minor, a man who has grown up with women and friend, and has been abused.
Hello from Norway 🇳🇴, sosialist heaven 😅👍 DD. JK, We have a whole range of different political alignments from what you speak of here to what you would call a mix of Democrats/Republican parties, don't be fooled, it's a 100% market economy. Sadly wokeism is slowly seeping from the US and UK into anything mainstream slowly in Norway as well. I have played with women that I consider very feminine to "Tomboy" (popular girls/women too). This mostly because I couldn't care less about women asking me what kind of game I was playing (behaving like a normal person), and confidence I guess didn't scare them away at all. I guess some of my male friends and people where deadly afraid to be be seen as "nerds", and hid from the female counterpart afraid of being labeled a nerd, afraid they would loose popularity (self reinforcing it exactly by doing so). On another note, I been looking at a few brick/online rpg stores, and I have started to see 70$ products marked off 20$, 50$, everything from 35 to 40$ (5th edtion). I have a sneaking feeling that we will see a lot more marked down 5e Wotc products in the future. I actually GM now and then in 5e, but I use a lot of the options in the DMG to make it much more challenging, plus house rules as well , getting it a lot less superhero to more in the Hero category. The core books aren't that bad, but it's the gradual influence of real life politics that made me stop buying most of the books. This and of course Hasbro/Wotc just getting rid of the immense talents that used to write mostly high quality products (both male and female), campaign settings, Sourcebooks, novels from late 1st/2nd and 3rd edtion (I mainly play 2nd edition). I have been Dming more or less since 85 to now and I think that I could write better materiel than most of the Wotc "development team". I have a disability which I have a lot of pain 24/7 (got it later in life). Playing rpgs with friends makes it a lot easier, and I have a lot of fun just doing so, which is what rpgs is supposed to be about, not the shite state that Wotc/Paizo and others are dragging my beloved hobby through at the moment. When the heck did you need cultural consultants that are "woke washing" products that are already influenced by real life politics, and they think that this is the pinnacle of the rpg hobby 😅. Take care all from Norway 🇳🇴 😊👍
@@DiversityDragons Thank you for doing what you do, being real about it, very articulated and intelligent videos, standing up for the Hobby and what it really should be about. I have followed a couple the live shows, really like them but it's not that easy due to time zones and a family and kids. Keep up the great work 😁👍
Bro I would love northing more than to have a debate with you. I mean in the best way I love how different your ideals are than mine. On your next live invite me on I would kill for a convo
Not at my table, I could give a shit about these type people, PLEASE cancel me lol. My new campaign starts up in a week, we will be playing classic D&D the way it is supposed to be played. I could care less if I offend anyone with my DMing style or if my players say something that hurts someone feelings. I can't STAND this new modern D&D and world with all these damned activist groups. We have a woman in our group and she will tell you the same thing I just said.
@@DiversityDragons Double D, I live in a bubble, anything that happens outside of my bubble does not affect me, the only things that matter are what is going on inside my bubble. All this craziness going on in the world I simply stay away from it. This same craziness is what drove me to LEAVE Hasbro/WotC D&D and return to old school D&D. Now when I see stupid stuff going on from WotC I just sit back and laugh. I know I miss most of your live streams, but I am STILL a dedicated watcher and will always stand with you bro.
I stopped the video as soon as I heard "cultural marxism". There is nothing more to hear from you, even an Uvuudaum probably has more interesting things to say(as mind shattering as they may be).
@@DiversityDragons About that, I am speaking to you via a web archive, so no extra engagement for you. Sorry, you're gonna have to wait for the next one who probably doesn't know about archives. Even 2 year olds are more mature than you, a guy nearing his 50s judging by the white facial hair.
@@DiversityDragons Quite rich coming from someone who barely has 2700+ subscribers. I truly wonder, what is it with you Americans being so half-baked? It really can't be the water or the air or the huge landmass.
I've been in out of hospitals and doctor's offices a lot so my experiences with female medical professionals has been.. far less positive to say the least. It hasn't been all terrible but in the end they've just been average.
"The Orc you just killed is to some people a black person" Jesus Wokester, you don´t have to sell me the idea of Orc Genocide. I´m already down for that from the get go. - Hanz Schnitzelnazi Dwarven Storm Sorcerer
I miss the female players I had in my games in the late 70s and early 80s. The funny thing is they acted like the accusations of men. Slapping asses and grabbing boobs of NPCs. They were overcompensating to an extreme level, but once they got over it they were very good players. Women process information differently than men, or they used to before so many men decided to eschew testosterone. Other than the occasional odd duck, I am finding so called men more of a problem. 5E has so many loopholes and special tricks the characters are virtually immortal, yet they whine and cry about every thing that goes against them. I have decided to dump D&D, after almost 50 years. I am looking at other games.
There are good ones out there. Greg Gillespie's Dragonslayer is coming out early next year. We do Castles & Crusades as our replacement right now. There's also Dragonbane if you want domethinh approaching 5e but deadly.
@@DiversityDragons I am looking for something that will not appeal to 90% of the RPG audience. I just grabbed Morkborg, that seems gritty enough to repel the wimps.
@@APL314159265 WotC (D&D) is 70+% of the RPGMarket, and #2 Paizo (Pathfinder) is almost as bad. I think you're probably good with anything outside of those 2 these days.
Interesting vid, once again, Div&Drag. Marxism isn’t inherently feminist. Nor is feminism inherently Marxist. I think I’d use ‘feminist political correctness’ with respect to trends in D&D rather than leftist feminism. Marxism doesn’t care about ‘diversity’, it focuses on the flaws of capitalism, and focuses mainly on political economics and economic class, not on ethnic/racial/gendered ‘equity’.
Pretty cringe takes here. Feels kinda like conservative bait over non issues, you dont like the combat wheelchair then dont use it and there are much shorter ways of saying you find girls icky.
@@DiversityDragons Welcome my guy. Just think if you've loved d&d for so long you'd maybe more concerned that the suits at Hasbro are doing things like sacking off well thought of talent ( for example Eytan Bernstein who's worked on the product since 3rd edition) in the name of endlessly increasing shareholder profit (even though wotc is their main area of profitability and they could just leave it to print money for them). I don't see how homebrew combat wheelchairs are affecting the health of d&d nearly as much as the decision making and corporate greed running rampant in d&d. But I dunno you probably don't want to have that conversation cause it's 'cultural Marxism' or 'woke' or some buzzword. My original comment was snarky and making fun because I'm bored of these takes on the internet and they always feel so bad faith. Like do you really care about this product/hobby or are you just after that sweet sweet rightwing grifter cash?
The whole wheelchair thing really frustrates me. Because it's always people who don't actually understand what it's like to fight for handicapped access to buildings. Doorknobs have caused problems for me in the past, which seems trivial, but that's real life when you have cerebral palsy. It's not all roses.
When I was introduced to the tabletop RPG hobby, it was an epiphany. All of a sudden, the doctors telling me I would never drive a car, I would lose the ability to walk by the time I was 18 years old. All of that went away. I could be literally whatever the hell I wanted to be. I could be normal. Hell, better than normal. I could play some badass barbarian or Fire-slinging mage or some other fantastic badass character that didn't have to worry about pain and legs or arms or randomly dropping objects or twitching uncontrollably And having everybody stare at you like you're a freak. But at the table, all of that goes away. I don't have to deal with any of it. Why would I want to bring that experience to the table? It's not fun.
Is having fun too much to ask for these people?
I feel for you, brother. Tjere's a huge difference between not letting a disability get in the way of something that CAN be overcome and fetishizing it for virtue signal points.
@@DiversityDragons its not bad, just annoying. I just don't understand why these idiots continue to push this stuff when a majority of disabled gamers are in this hobby to get away from the minutia. What's next after wheel chairs? Strength checks to open jars?
Better get your +2 jar openers ready.
Attention seekers
@@legndofphoenix in a medieval or conan like setting I would say no they can not.
@@Arnsteel634 In a world like D&D and stuff where there's literal magical artificers tho? Magic flying Lizards that breath fire? Magic swords that can set themselves alight and do additional fire damage? Why not?
I mean i dm almost exclusively now. I know my strengths and weaknesses. You can absolutely be feminine and fill the role well.
Can i get "tone deaf" for 100 please?
This video is spot on - thanks DD. There have been several women in my gaming groups going all the way back to my first group back in the early 80's. Real geek girls have been a part of the hobby since the beginning, and had no desire to change it. As you point out, only when the ttrpg hobby became a target of cultural Marxists did this current BS begin. It's not really feminine thought, so much as intersectional feminism.
Thank you Vector!
same my first group had my best friend's sister join us and my Mom was the DM.
I agree 100%. Feminism is much more the problem than masculinity or femininity. There's nothing "feminine" about screaming on the internet and imposing your views on others through having a public meltdown
I am playing in a Basic Fantasy RPG group. Early in our campaign, maybe in the first session (I am not sure), a character died from a trap inspired by Grimstooth's Traps. Our attitude was, "Oh well. Roll a new character." No one had a meltdown. No X cards. We just moved on. People who have read the rules know that BFRPG (like B/X on which it is based) is brutal compared to the superhero game popularly known as 5E.
@wim3864 If someone came to my table talking about X Cards they would be told to get lost quickly. I have talked to my players about X-Cards and the majority (maybe one or two) haven't even heard of X Cards. X cards failed to catch on which is a good thing.
@@perfectmachinegames they are way more popular than what you think.
The entire nerd culture has been overtaken by the grown up versions of your little sister calling Mom to let her play with your toy and making it all about herself
BINGO.
Make gatekeeping GREAT AGAIN.
Your comment reminds me of George Alexopoulos' comic strips in which a blue haired SJW demands to join a game (in the name of inclusivity) and then changes everything and kicks out anyone who objects (again, all in the name of inclusivity).
Not just nerd culture. ALL culture.
@@wilm3864 I may not be the best GM in the world, but I'm pretty good. My game doesn't even try to pretend that it's inclusive. It's EXCLUSIVE. I only play with people that are hand-selected to make sure the experience works for all involved.
I agree that our culture has been feminized for a multitude of reasons (one reason being too many men have bought into it due to the promise of fewer responsibilities)
That being said, my wife is my favorite player at the table, hands down its not even close.
oh jeez your channel is just full of this
It is! Stay tuned for more!
HAHAHHAHA, THIS IS THE SHIT I STAY ON YOTUBE FOR@@DiversityDragons
@@DiversityDragons Thank goodness! I only just discovered this channel. FINALLY someone chatting about the hobby I like who actually goddamn knows wtf Cultural Marxism is!
Proud to have a geeky wife who would make most of these "Radiant Citadel" types cry and/or rage.
Me too, brother!
Preserve them for the future generations
I have been playing and running D&D since the mid 70's when it appeared. I agree 100% with your assessment of the current social situation and D&D.
Can you survive?
A friend from High School had a sister who played well, and his game group was often large with 6 or 7 guys and 3 or 4 gals.
I'm a 40-something woman who is what I like to call an "extreme tomboy". I grew up with three sisters. I am absolutely the outlier. None of them were interested in the things I was interested in because they were actually feminine girls. I knew I was, and still am, the weird one. I think I get along with guys as well as I do because I've never made me being female the center of anything when I'm around them. If I want to do something, I'll do it because I want to, not to make a statement. I'm currently in an RPG campaign where I'm the only female. I don't think about it. Not sure if the guys do, and if they do it's certainly not from me pushing it into the game. All I care about is having fun with the rest of the group.
You sound very much like the "old school" woman who wanted to just play the games as they were. I salute you!
@@legndofphoenix Who said they're bad?
Ladies please. You're both appreciated members of the Double D club.
Some of my best players have been women but like you said, they never made the fact they were women a big deal, it had nothing to do with their decision or playstyles. The hijacking of TTRPGs by the "progressive types" have been ruining RPGs. Spot on takes DD
There has to be balance which is why one of the greatest campaigns and campaign worlds (in my opinion) was created by a man and woman I am of course speaking of Dragonlance and Krynn created by Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis back in the 80's
Just one more comment Div&Drag. I think it’s a fascinating notion that boys when playing imbue themselves with the powers/talents/shtick of their heroes, and that girls imbue their heroes with their talents. Hadn’t considered it but it seems possible.
Masculinity and femminity both matter, the world needs men and women without both we wouldn't survive.
a lot of the stuff you have said in your videos has helped me with my mental health and I appreciate it.
Thank you and all the best to you.
The current conception of what "feminine" is supposed to be, is the most anti-feminine thing in existence. In the 5eD&D game that I am running, RPG Grandma often takes the mantle of leader of the party, not because she's a woman, but because she has been playing since the 70s, so she is the most experienced member of the party; also in the fiction, since her character is an older female minotaur artificer from the Barrier Peaks 🤣
RPG Grandma is the type of woman I am used to playing with!
Being a new DM to 5e but having roots in old school AD&D, I still try to keep my game rough n tumble. Violence is hardcore and Orcs are deadly and are a joy to kill. If players aren’t into it, they can find another table to play at.
I agree with you on most of this but when you made remarks about accessibility in tabletop gaming, I had to step in and comment. I'm legally blind and have been forcing my way through tabletop gaming since long before it started going all digital. Now that it has, it has never been more accessibleto those with disabilities. In regards to the combat wheelchair, I personally don't see anything wrong with it and it's like simply because they're cool fantasy ideas and I have always lived by the rule of cool in my tabletop gaming. Granted, not every disabled character in my worlds would have one and they would be given an interesting backstory as to how the player got one, but the option would be available. I don't let people play token disabled characters though, the type who's disability is their personality. I stand by the fact that a good group doesn't need safewords or x cards because they hashed all that out in advance and understand where the limits are, which should be very clear in most cases... don't try to get away with stuff you do with friends in a public game because it won't always work.
It's never affected my games in the slightest, and I dropped Wotc years ago when I sold my DND collection.
I'm can't wait to finish my system and release it for others to try. Social pressure won't influence my design. It's gonna be fun!🍺
Do you have a link to your work or how to contact you? I'm in the same lane, and we could get some interesting feedback.
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Not yet. I'm still developing the core mechanics and how I want the dice to work. It's like a puzzle, and each new piece reveals something awesome.
The most important thing that I've learned is test as you build. What looks good on paper isn't always practical. 🍺
Edit: I've got the core mechanics, but they're in a never ending state of revision as I build other systems and compare, then revise. It's fun but time consuming.
@@MrWhite5150Duke I can relate to. I've been working on my worldbuilding during almost 30 years. I know it's not gonna be fun friendly, so I decided to just stick to my vision, and ue the core mechanics to explain how my world works... and it's getting grittier.
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Cool! Edit: I'm with you on long term design. My story stuff (the setting) has been developing since 1992ish. But the mechanics have changed to something I haven't found anywhere else. Not entirely original, but a significant mechanic isn't found elsewhere, which is exciting.
@@MrWhite5150Duke It seems we're birds of the same ilk, my fellow gme designer.
From the title, you can exchange 'the gaming table?' with literally anything in the West.
The Gm/DM at my game table (I run two games currently) are the leader and my ruling is final and respected by my players. I have run many games and that has been true. I think while the DM/GM isn't the leader (Their ruling is final) does happen, I don't think it happens that often and when it does happen, it happens with crappy GMs/DMs and I dont game with them anyway. I have quit games with crappy DM's/GM's. I am moving more into OSR and loving it. One the games I am currently running is Old School Essentials.
What the fuck did I walk into? I just was looking into an Review of the Grim & Perilous TTRPG, because I like the Blackbirds TTRPG.
(Side note: Was looking to get maybe a Campaign going over Foundry VTT for some quick fun with Friends, as Brancalonia is only available in italian on there. Fuck that, Grim & Perilous seems fucking awful for some easy fun.)
I dont know what is going on around here, but for a channel called Diversity & Dragons everyone around here sure as hell seems to be old, grumpy and hating on diversity?! Am I missing something? Is this a Doomer hideout? I mean I love hating on bad writers (privileged Liberal Millennial with a Funko Pop collection, you exactly know the type I am talking about) just as much as the next guy, but this seems extensive. But maybe I am just not deep enough in this bubble as I primarily play Homebrew Campaigns I wrote myself. Own Lore, own Worldbuilding, own Core Rule Book, own Monsters, own World. And I play with my close friends. No bullshit, no playing with people I barely even know nor I dont even fucking like. My time and writing is way to precious to waste it on people that dont even share the same passion as I do. I like being a writer, I like writing Fantasy.
I mean honestly, whats even the problem? You can choose WHAT you want to play, you can choose with WHO you want to play. There will always be TTRPG material for everyone and if there isnt make it yourself. The only person I see destroying any kind of table is the DM, the people playing at the table. You let them in. You decide, nobody else. So why care what other people do at their table, with their table? How is any of this affection us? Are people afraid of not being able to find like-minded people anymore?
I played most of my Campaigns at tables only filled with Women, lusting over Mind Flayers like some common Whores. All of them, a bunch of Monster Fuckers. What does this mean? Nothing, nothing at all as long as everyone at the table is comfortable (optimal. I will traumatize you. I will have horrific world building. Your character is gonna suffer horrors beyond comprehension) and having fun.
Honestly, who cares what a bunch of grifters have to say about D&D? About anything at all? Its about letting go. Let them do whatever the fuck they want to do. Eventually they will fail, if there is no audience for it. And if there is actually an audience, that just means there is gonna be something new. Someone is gonna fill the void created. Creating something for you and me, something for all of us. My most recent example of that is the Witchers Netflix series. I was fumming so hard over what they did with the Witcher Neftlix series. An absolute disaster, being held together by the only Guy that cared. Henry Cavill. Than I just stopped. It wasnt healthy, nor did it help. I didnt watch it, I stopped thinking about it. Simply paid no attention to it whatsoever. What good comes from getting angry or mad over it, getting emotional over it? Nothing. What can we witness currently? It blew up all in their face. What rises out of the ashes? Hopefully an authentic and well-written Warhammer 40k series directed by Henry Cavill.
😄 That was a sprawling answer for sure. You may not dig the channel completely, as I do cover the politicization of this hobby by leftists.
I also do straight gaming content, though. That might be more in your wheelhouse. I did a nice summary why I thought Birthright was the best setting TSR ever did as well as a house rule on using a d8 mechanic for chases.
Alas, the trappings of Lifestyle Brand...
One of your best videos yet!
Maybe it was a southern California thing but there were always woman playing the game since day 1. There were entire tables of female players.
Also have you seen jester in action? That character is a fucking monster. Also KARLACH? No beefy women, no men playing barbarians? Bro have you MET my lizardfolk? Man got the nickname of “Gorak the table smasher on day 1”
One thing I'm constantly annoyed by, both when "leftists" engage in it and when people like yourself respond to it, is the very notion of "cultural" Marxism. If we go back to Marx, it's all about how material conditions or an economic system/structure is the base from which a cultural superstructure is constructed. What this means is culture emerges from the conditions of production, or the way we who live in the world make our wages. The notion that including wheelchairs in a fantasy game or having the X card or whatever has anything to do with economic democracy or proletarian control of the means of production is just... laughable. It's irrelevant. The ugly truth for "leftists" to accept is that the battle cannot be won in your favorite fandom, online, by buying the right products, or anything of the sort. I wish both the right and the left had a stronger sense of what Marxism is so we could talk about woke-ism or whatever without applying wildly inaccurate labels.
Feminine thought is not the problem.
Feminine thought is beautiful.
FEMINIST thought IS ruining it.
These two things could not be further apart from each other IMO.
I agree completely ❤
We must be defiant. What we need is a Shock Jock phase in RPGs. They will leave. Loud, brutish, crude and nasty.
Players in my campaign "The Ten Thousand Islands : a world of Vikings and Greeks" frequently are challenged to deal with slavery, torture and sophont-sacrifice, etc. ... some players do get uncomfortable.
Sadly it's not only a D&D issue. Look at Pathfinder or other tabletop rpgs: the same!
+1 for outstanding coverage of this topic.... this is 100% true. Great book called "becoming a barbarian" by jack donovan that addresses this very topic on a societal scale... and RPGs are a perfect microcosm of what happens with toxic femininity. (referred to as the Mother of Exiles in the book)
@@PhantomLordLmao, you got so butthurt you felt like replying every comment with the same insipid insult, love it!!
100% correct. Sad what TTRPG and D&D has become.
A little feminine energy at the table can be a great thing. Especially if she's a good RP'er and/or a classic geek girl who 'gets' it. But past a certain point it is absolute death to much/most of the enjoyment of playing RPG's in the first place. Between the Dangerhairs turning everything into their own personal therapy session, and the thirsty beta-male orbiters and their weapons-grade simping for anything female, we need to gatekeep the F out of the hobby.
a geek girl would never try to make the table safe because she understands that genere's being emulated.
I mean no one is forcing you to let people play at your Gametable you dont like. Go ahead, Gatekeep the fuck out of your table.
@@PhantomLord I should tell my wife that. She'll think you're just adorable.
I don't think gatekeeping the hobbies will solve anything. Just be choosier in your personal gaming group friend.
@@deathstar013 That's literally what gatekeeping means, just on a smaller scale.
The issue is precisely the same - a small number of pushy, needy and neurotic personality types can very easily manipulate a larger group into adopting incredibly toxic behaviour just to placate them.
It is much easier to pre-emptively block the sort of censorious, authoritarian personality types from ever getting into positions of influence, than it is to mitigate the damage they do once they're entrenched.
Its even harder when they've colonized a franchise to the point where there are no dissenting voices.
On wings of vengeance, Taarna finds them, To defend, This is the pact
Yes, there have always been people that have gone overboard with ideas. If every explanation for inequity were explained through racism or sexism, then you'd be saving a lot of people a lot of time and money on education and these problems would be easy to solve. The problem is, of course, that these problem are not simplistic single cause and effect and treating them as such creates their own set of problems. I understand the impulse. You feel righteous in defending what you see as virtue and seeing that validated by members of your group feels good. If you're being even slightly honest, you also get a little bit of perverse joy sticking it to the other guy.
In the past, you ran into these people in college and these ideas did not survive a few years of life in the real world after graduation. The activists went out and did something useful like grassroots politics. Now, they don't contribute anything. Their purpose is to "own" the other side in social discourse which accomplishes nothing other than driving other views underground. It does not change opinions. You sort of yearn for real Marxists to show up. The idea that the intellectual leaders of the left come from the privileged ranks of Hollywood, the music industry, influencers, business, or high society would be offensive to any real Marxist. But these new breed of activists have no faith in any other institution, including those that propose to represent their interests, so that's the best they can do. The great divide is not going to survive the transition from the Boomer generation to the younger generations just as the divide in the period 60s-80s did not last. At some point there will be a reset. Until then, we just have to endure this transitionary stage.
The good news is that nothing solves these problems like year after year of four percent GDP growth. The last time around you went from the turbulence and anxiety of the 60s and 70s, and ended up with 12 years of Reagan/Bush. Funny how economic prosperity cures all problems.
I'm coming around to the idea that the US, and North America in general, may be coming into a new Golden Age. It's not that we are political and economic geniuses, it that the risk premiums in Europe, Africa, Middle East, and Asia are too high and capital has to go somewhere. Anyone want to spend their capital budget on opening a big plant in Ukraine or Taiwan right now? When that happens, a lot of this social angst will go away.
Yes
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My experience with tabletop gaming (which dates back to the late 70’s) was that female influence helped shift the emphasis of the game toward the narrative instead of being purely statistical. Mind you, this was before the nonsense of grievance politics.
Spice added to a stew makes it tastier, but now the stew is all spice.
11:30 your lego studio reminds me how women impose their ways in any household (thus husbands forced to abandon any hobby they once had9.
Feminism is one thing. Intersectional Feminism is another, since it is an outgrowth of critical theory, which is itself an outgrowth of marxism.
Feminism (the "first wave") was invented by a Friedrich Engels as an attempt to push marxism into the women's vote movement. There is no version of feminism that doesn't have a marxist influence.
The OGL being irrevocable is a fail safe for the current freak show. Content will continue to be made by independent creators for previous editions despite the freaks attempts to destroy the game.
This is some alarmist bullshit. The index card letting people know it’s too tough? Dudes say the military is implementing that too it’s always the next basic training cycle and you know what it’s never been done. And for checklists about what people are okay with, that comes from trauma so severe that you can have panic attacks from being brought back into that frame of mind. Be more worldly I’m not saying some of the things implemented aren’t ridiculous but to say that dnd has gone downhill because of SJW’s is stupid. D&D has specifically gone down due to cash grabs as you call them or more commonly known as corporate greed. Which if you look around is the source of a lot of issues we are facing today, and also why there is a hard pushback for socialist policies.
I disagree with most of that. Some people think that the world is their therapy couch. It's not trauma, it's usually just narcissim.
@@DiversityDragons you're embarrassing dude XD
You're the one commenting here, toots.
I win.
While I agree with your opinions and sentiments about cultural marxism, respectfully, I think blaming "femininity," as opposed to FEMINISM goes too far. When I see the stereotypical screaming leftist on the internet I see the worst of both stereotypical femininity (emotionality, fearfulness) and stereotypical masculinity (anger, aggression, pushiness). There's nothing ladylike (or manly) about this behavior. Furthermore, receptivity and gentleness are also traits associated with femininity and it wouldn't be unfeminine of a woman who joins a group of RPG playing men to conform to their playstyle, or, at least, be compassionate towards it and not try to nag them into changing. Finally, I see nothing wrong with a group of boys playing knights and adventurerers at one table, a group of men playing a grim dark evil campaign at another, a group of women playing princesses and fairies somewhere else still. The fact that WoTC is demonizing and distancing themselves from white male players and DMs is a problem because, frankly, its racist, sexist and a betrayal of their original fanbase, but a group of women playing a feminized version of DND and not imposing their playstyle on others or claiming its the only way to play isn't a bad thing either.
I do, however, strongly agree with you about boys playing RPGs together - I think it's a great way for boys to learn heroic virtues, storytelling as well as communication skills. I think especially for shy boys who struggle to make friends, its a wonderful tool because you can still have social interaction without awkwardly struggling to find a topic to discuss. While I think there are some benefits to it for girls too, I think it has a bit more appeal for boys because of the adventurous/heroic element. I have seen male friendships form over RPGs between guys who would otherwise have felt too shy/awkward to reach out to other men to talk about life in general or random topics.
Fantastic video! I so need to listen to you more!
Welcome to the channel! Remember every Wednesday at 7pm est we do a livestream, hope to see you there!
Please don't. You'll end up being so lonely
@@lizzybeka1864 Sounds like you're the one that's a little lonely, Lizzie. Join us!
@@DiversityDragons no thanks, my dear 😂😂
@@lizzybeka1864 What?
I would say the real people in wheelchairs or with disabilities would be the most apposed to giving there imaginary characters that are not special treatment..most in real life situations reject all of this safe space trash.
I love how the people who try to insert disabilities and mental illness into ttrpgs have absolutely no idea about the subjects. Even those who claim as such in the industry do such a disservice to the topic. I.e. the "autistic" self-insert in The Book of Many Things made by an "autistic" creator.
Spot on… the game is an escape…. Who wouldn’t want a break from their wheel chair? It is just another group think virtue signal that does nothing for disabled players. It is more about getting attention or trumpeting victim status than anything else. Disabilities are welcome at my table, those afflicted with a victim mentality who want to reorganize everything around their immature feelings are not.
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It can certainly go both ways. I've had my grueling gaming sessions with your stereotypical SJWs and debated them many times when they tried to rewrite lore and mechanics. But I ran a CoC scenario I wrote at a packed, four day long RPG gathering for a newbie woman two days ago, where the party had to fight TED Klein's Xo tl'mi-go. Imagine X-Files Flukemen with a fisting fetish. Her character wasn't targeted by them, but every dangerhair under the Sun would've been triggered by what they uncovered during the game. She loved it and will be one of the good ones.
Oh damn i my bad I didn't think I was gonna walk into a group of incels bitching and crying cause something doesn't go their way once in a few millenia, I thought there was gonna be some nuanced social take. I'm not a man hater btw i have a dad, a brother, male cousins and even male friends 😔
Are you referring to me as an "incel"?
@@DiversityDragons if it quacks
Haha same. This is just "women are allowed in a space I'm gatekeeping as long as they behave in a way I find appropriate for women to act". So gross. I've played DnD for decades and nothing makes me happier than more women finding out that not all games of DnD are toxic games DMd by misogynistic men like this guy 🤢 The space has grown a lot and it's nice to see the change in the space to be more inclusive.
@@CallistoTheWarriorQueen I'll break the news to my wife and daughter at our next gaming session. They'll be crushed to know their DM, dad and husband is an "incel mysoginist. 😄
You two are exactly the ones giving women in gaming a bad name. Take your Xcard and GTFO.😘
@@CallistoTheWarriorQueen yep, as far as I see it, people like them making those videos is like a desperate cry for help trying to fight against a wave they can't stop 😂🌊
The one guy about wheelchairs is, for a lack of a better word, a SIMP. A guy who is sucking up hoping to be liked without a single critical thought in his head. He also doesn't understand the argument being made. He also ignores that in a world where daily survival is a struggle built entirely on the survival of the fittest, crippled people would not even exist because society wouldn't cater to them or even care for them at all as they'd be an undue burden. That is how almost all of history and many places still exist today. You're too busy trying to ensure that you have enough food and supplies to make it through the winter each year, or to not be killed by some horrible beast, no one will care for a crippled person. They aren't going to waste time and effort making wheelchairs, they're too busy just trying to not die themselves. But it's a way os conflating his comfortable, modernized life and stupidly thnking that's how things always were or always should have been. It shows extreme privilege on his part and extreme ignorance too. My wife played D&D with us and now is in one of my C&C games. She hates this crap as much as the rest of us do. Though she's not a narcissist who needs to see themselves in everything.
Same with my wife and daughter!
Disagree somewhat, one of the hallmarks discovered by archeology that proved Civilization was the fact of a injury, broken arm that was allowed to heal because that person was cared for by others.
What gets me about the stupid combat wheelchair is that with the amount of magic in that thing, there's no way some broken street dweller is affording it any more than they are affording a magical back repair. So that guy's entire point about universal healthcare (ugh) is moot anyway because no enchanter is going to give that shit away for free. If you're paying obscene amounts of gold for a +1 Sword of [insert effect], there is zero chance you're not paying even more obscene amounts of gold for an unbreakable chair that can float over obstacles and essentially acts as armor. The entire thing is absolutely idiotic if you take even a moment to think about it. But of course most people don't, pat the autistic creator on the back, and say "stunning and brave."
@@wastelandsniper789 Clerics without Borders is Incoming! 😂
Not necessarily. In Medieval Europe, on which DND was originally based, people lived by Christian values and there were monasteries dedicated to helping the poor and sick (see: Knights of Saint John, Saint Francis of Assissi). Christianity sees suffering and sacrifice as a value because through prayer you can unite your suffering with Christ and you can suffer to do penance for your sins, so ending someone's life because they were suffering through neglect or directly was seen as a grave sin. There weren't "combat wheelchairs," but people weren't habitually left out in the streets to die either. That being said, some people did have a "survival of the fittest" mentality and in the early middle ages, as well as other parts of the world, pagan religions were practiced and their views on suffering and survival of the fittest varied. Medieval people weren't as "backwards" and brutal as modern medial portrays them. That being said, in a fantasy world with fantasy gods, you can decide to have a Medieval Europe-like setting without Christian values.
Answer to question: Fuck & Yes.
Spot on, Sir!
Beard is a good look brother🤘
Thank you! I actually grew beards often before I started the channel, I keep forgetting ypu guys have never seen one on me. 😄
One of the things that is greatly concerning me, is the oversensitivety I am seeing in these games.
Now to clarify, what I speak of is in the form of D&D horror stories, Crit Crab, Crispy's Tavern and Sir Knox are but 3 that twll these horror stories.
There are others, but typically there is zlot of talk of people being unconfirtable, bad DM's and players alike and some situations that hale in real life ramifications.
Have you experienced any such incidents, back in the 80's what was it like, has D&D truly been stripped of it's former glory?
At present I am getting more prepared for 5th Edition as I have the monster manual and Dungeon Masters Guide, I just need the player manual. I have 4 sets of dice(additional 2 sets from the two starter editions I own) and so I just need backup chr sheets. I would prefer to print out the sheets that use the first ones I got.
So yeah, as far as I have seen, it's more than just this Feminine Thought that is a problem and in other news that WOTC has cut ties with people that is starting to spell doom for the game.
I fear that I may be to late for the long haul, but time will tell.
You are very well spoken and I appreciate hearing this telling!}:>]
Good topic. Im sure it will generate some fun lol
Get ready for the fireworks tomorrow lol.
Ready, I've sharpened some pungy sticks!
A consent form might be important during session zero with a new group, but not if your group consists of the same four guys for the last twenty years. The X card, on the other hand, is just asinine.
Great video. Can't wait to see the triggered reactions to this.
Nor can I!
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Im just gonna assume alot of the negative comments are getting deleted cause there's no way this much blatant misogyny isn't getting criticized. Women aren't all just precious snowflakes that wants everything to be cute and cuddly. "Games are worse when they have women" fk off with that sht the best players I've had have all been women because they're usually way more emotionally invested into the games. You just come off as a guy thats mad that he said blatantly sexist, racist, rapey, and offensive stuff in a game and got called an asshole. Maybe instead of getting mad people got offended when you said offensive stuff, dont say offensive stuff?
Me asking my dms to not include pedophilia and player character rape isn't me being "womanly", neither is me asking my players before I start a campaign if there are anything that trigger them me being a "mama bear caring for snowflakes", its that ive had severe trauma and ptsd and have the basic fucking empathy to recognize others may have the same to not do so to others. Masculinity isn't bad, neither is femininity bad, but toxic masculinity, where everything has to be uber tough without emotion, what you have, absolutely fucking is. Since when did caring about peoples trauma become a bad thing
I don't care about your trauma, neither does anyone else. And nothing's getting deleted, hotcakes.
I don't think they're being deleted, a lot of people really are this fucked up. Some people will get behind any and all misogyny enablers they find online so they can jack off in each other's mouths about their sexist conspiracies, spill their poison around and disrespectfully and arrogantly shut up anyone else who dares to call them out, like this guy just did with your comment.
But on the other hand, the fact that this video has 3k views (literally the same amount of subscribers the channel has lmfao), under 500 likes and only around 200 comments, means it's probably safe to assume that this misogynistic dickhead here is just profiting off of people clicking on his sexist and shocking video titles just out of the shocking titles alone, and most just go away after that initial annoyance. It's a particularly pathetic but highly exploitable model that a lot of "influencers" use to create their own self-contained circlejerk "safe haven for advocates of hate speech" communities, while also profiting off the little attention they get from shock value. I mean look at the numbers this video has vs the active viewers and genuine support the channel is able to retain beyond one video, this is just fast food-type throwaway junk content for a relatively select group of shit people. It's an ugly sight yes, but also a waste of time.
Oh damn, the Chihuahuas got a bark@@DiversityDragons
And I would just like to say, I care about your trauma and would love to hear about it I’d you ever need someone just to listen, because GUESS WHAT DUMBASS CREATOR, I CAN DEMOLISH YOUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE AND EVERY ARGUMENT WITH THE 16 YEARS OF TRAMA IVE ACQUIRED. Yes, I am a minor, a man who has grown up with women and friend, and has been abused.
I wonder what the world would be like today if boomers never gained access to mirrored sunglasses.
Hey now, Gen-X! 😂
@@DiversityDragons As is somewhat appropriate, we're the invisible generation. It just jumps from Millennials to Boomers.
For sure!
Hello from Norway 🇳🇴, sosialist heaven 😅👍 DD.
JK, We have a whole range of different political alignments from what you speak of here to what you would call a mix of Democrats/Republican parties, don't be fooled, it's a 100% market economy.
Sadly wokeism is slowly seeping from the US and UK into anything mainstream slowly in Norway as well.
I have played with women that I consider very feminine to "Tomboy" (popular girls/women too).
This mostly because I couldn't care less about women asking me what kind of game I was playing (behaving like a normal person), and confidence I guess didn't scare them away at all.
I guess some of my male friends and people where deadly afraid to be be seen as "nerds", and hid from the female counterpart afraid of being labeled a nerd, afraid they would loose popularity (self reinforcing it exactly by doing so).
On another note, I been looking at a few brick/online rpg stores, and I have started to see 70$ products marked off 20$, 50$, everything from 35 to 40$ (5th edtion).
I have a sneaking feeling that we will see a lot more marked down 5e Wotc products in the future.
I actually GM now and then in 5e, but I use a lot of the options in the DMG to make it much more challenging, plus house rules as well , getting it a lot less superhero to more in the Hero category.
The core books aren't that bad, but it's the gradual influence of real life politics that made me stop buying most of the books.
This and of course Hasbro/Wotc just getting rid of the immense talents that used to write mostly high quality products (both male and female), campaign settings, Sourcebooks, novels from late 1st/2nd and 3rd edtion (I mainly play 2nd edition).
I have been Dming more or less since 85 to now and I think
that I could write better materiel than most of the Wotc "development team".
I have a disability which I have a lot of pain 24/7 (got it later in life).
Playing rpgs with friends makes it a lot easier, and I have a lot of fun just doing so, which is what rpgs is supposed to be about, not the shite state that Wotc/Paizo and others are dragging my beloved hobby through at the moment.
When the heck did you need cultural consultants that are "woke washing" products that are already influenced by real life politics, and they think that this is the pinnacle of the rpg hobby 😅.
Take care all from Norway 🇳🇴 😊👍
Well said! Thank you for checking in my friend.
@@DiversityDragons Thank you for doing what you do, being real about it, very articulated and intelligent videos, standing up for the Hobby and what it really should be about.
I have followed a couple the live shows, really like them but it's not that easy due to time zones and a family and kids.
Keep up the great work 😁👍
Nice Video, thank you
Bro I would love northing more than to have a debate with you. I mean in the best way I love how different your ideals are than mine. On your next live invite me on I would kill for a convo
Not at my table, I could give a shit about these type people, PLEASE cancel me lol. My new campaign starts up in a week, we will be playing classic D&D the way it is supposed to be played. I could care less if I offend anyone with my DMing style or if my players say something that hurts someone feelings. I can't STAND this new modern D&D and world with all these damned activist groups. We have a woman in our group and she will tell you the same thing I just said.
My wife and my daughter play with me to this day. Granted they are family, but they also understand how things should work at the table.
@@DiversityDragons Double D, I live in a bubble, anything that happens outside of my bubble does not affect me, the only things that matter are what is going on inside my bubble. All this craziness going on in the world I simply stay away from it. This same craziness is what drove me to LEAVE Hasbro/WotC D&D and return to old school D&D. Now when I see stupid stuff going on from WotC I just sit back and laugh. I know I miss most of your live streams, but I am STILL a dedicated watcher and will always stand with you bro.
Much appreciated my friend! I just try to call 'em as I see 'em!
@@DiversityDragons What makes you that guy is I do the same thing on my small channel. I say it like I see it. If someone gets offended . . . oh well.
@@legndofphoenix they couldn't if they tried.
Great video!
We give them precisely what they need. Relevance. :(
This video is spot on
Thank you William!
I stopped the video as soon as I heard "cultural marxism".
There is nothing more to hear from you, even an Uvuudaum probably has more interesting things to say(as mind shattering as they may be).
Thanks for the extra engagement here. You're a peach.
@@DiversityDragons About that, I am speaking to you via a web archive, so no extra engagement for you.
Sorry, you're gonna have to wait for the next one who probably doesn't know about archives.
Even 2 year olds are more mature than you, a guy nearing his 50s judging by the white facial hair.
@@azazel166 😄 Just checked...failed TH-camr. Of course.
@@DiversityDragons Quite rich coming from someone who barely has 2700+ subscribers.
I truly wonder, what is it with you Americans being so half-baked?
It really can't be the water or the air or the huge landmass.
I actually paid respect to this guy by watching the whole video, and I can tell you personally, you got all the information you needed
I've been in out of hospitals and doctor's offices a lot so my experiences with female medical professionals has been.. far less positive to say the least. It hasn't been all terrible but in the end they've just been average.
good stuff buddy
Thank you Hungar!
Combat Wheelchair??? Pretty sure if any conservative came up with that idea it would be seen as offensive.
So BORING
"The Orc you just killed is to some people a black person"
Jesus Wokester, you don´t have to sell me the idea of Orc Genocide. I´m already down for that from the get go.
- Hanz Schnitzelnazi Dwarven Storm Sorcerer
But they promised Epstein's client list! 😜
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I wouldn't expect it as a 5e sourcebook, but maybe as a digital DLC for the next edition.
I miss the female players I had in my games in the late 70s and early 80s. The funny thing is they acted like the accusations of men. Slapping asses and grabbing boobs of NPCs. They were overcompensating to an extreme level, but once they got over it they were very good players. Women process information differently than men, or they used to before so many men decided to eschew testosterone. Other than the occasional odd duck, I am finding so called men more of a problem. 5E has so many loopholes and special tricks the characters are virtually immortal, yet they whine and cry about every thing that goes against them. I have decided to dump D&D, after almost 50 years. I am looking at other games.
There are good ones out there. Greg Gillespie's Dragonslayer is coming out early next year. We do Castles & Crusades as our replacement right now. There's also Dragonbane if you want domethinh approaching 5e but deadly.
@@DiversityDragons I am looking for something that will not appeal to 90% of the RPG audience. I just grabbed Morkborg, that seems gritty enough to repel the wimps.
@@APL314159265 WotC (D&D) is 70+% of the RPGMarket, and #2 Paizo (Pathfinder) is almost as bad. I think you're probably good with anything outside of those 2 these days.
Excellent
Thank you Pundit!
Bravo!
Interesting vid, once again, Div&Drag.
Marxism isn’t inherently feminist. Nor is feminism inherently Marxist. I think I’d use ‘feminist political correctness’ with respect to trends in D&D rather than leftist feminism. Marxism doesn’t care about ‘diversity’, it focuses on the flaws of capitalism, and focuses mainly on political economics and economic class, not on ethnic/racial/gendered ‘equity’.
Oh, also, that Taarna!😍
Pretty cringe takes here.
Feels kinda like conservative bait over non issues, you dont like the combat wheelchair then dont use it and there are much shorter ways of saying you find girls icky.
Thanks for watching and engaging!
@@DiversityDragons Welcome my guy.
Just think if you've loved d&d for so long you'd maybe more concerned that the suits at Hasbro are doing things like sacking off well thought of talent ( for example Eytan Bernstein who's worked on the product since 3rd edition) in the name of endlessly increasing shareholder profit (even though wotc is their main area of profitability and they could just leave it to print money for them).
I don't see how homebrew combat wheelchairs are affecting the health of d&d nearly as much as the decision making and corporate greed running rampant in d&d.
But I dunno you probably don't want to have that conversation cause it's 'cultural Marxism' or 'woke' or some buzzword.
My original comment was snarky and making fun because I'm bored of these takes on the internet and they always feel so bad faith. Like do you really care about this product/hobby or are you just after that sweet sweet rightwing grifter cash?
Excellent presentation, I agree with everything you said.
Also, white people made and grew this hobby, make no mistake, it's ours.
I dont agree on every point you make, but i have to admit there is some truth to your points
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