You deal more damage with hammers if you put only 1 point in Concentration, max Vigor, and then dump your excess points into Blessed Aim. Synergies have a higher contribution than the aura.
I actually did that online, but for the video did the oposite :/ Thanks for spotting it. With Vigor and Blessed aim you get 4.7k dmg at skill lvl 37, while with Concentration + Vigor only 3.8k dmg
this^ played that build as my starter this ladder and at a certain gear point, u dont even switch to conc and just use redemption all the time for QoL (only switch to conc on bosses like diablo).
@@frankenstein3163 Nah, a small update can fix that. Putting points into ConC aura isn't bad if you do play in a group, as the larger the group gets the worse your damage scales, so Conc for the party and their mercs does contribute more damage. It all depends on your style of play.
I just tested this build on my 77 lvl pala (offline). This build is good enough to get me through hell and i mean EVERYTHING! I was struggling for the past 2 days in act 3 as a pure hammerdin and pure fister... with this build i breezed through acts 3 4 and 5 and in act 1 i dont even need to use pots anymore THANK YOU! For those who wonder im using absolute basic gear: Spirit shield +2 to FoH +1 conviction scepter Peasant crown Stealth 2x fcr rings, resists amulet fhr belt+hp belt sanders boots chance gloves
Currently using Macro Boi's tri bryd build and it's a lot of fun. Not to mention there's nothing I can't farm. Missing a 2/20 helm to reach max fcr bp, but still works well.
I did an all things paladin with my current hammerdin, the 1 point wonders will totally make everything duable easy. I have been doing something a bit differently wit the paladins as of late, i have been maxing it out holy shield to avoid getting hit, plus fire absorb and light absorb from tgods and dwarf star helps me with ubers greatly. For tristram, highlords makes it so much easier if ur running either zeal or smiter. Pally's are definately the best character in the game
Wearing the duress after proc fade from the treachery is a better option in my opinion, and then adding one hard point to holy shock is what I'll do on top of your suggestion. Anyway, thank you so much for the sharing.
Kvothe, I watch all of the d2 TH-camrs and I mainly pvp and none of the builds suggested were better than a pvp setup doing pvm. BUUUUTTT this right here. This was the first time l actually respec into a suggested build and it's fantastic. Great job. Keep it up brother.
Thank you for kind words! I think most PVP builds are very good at surviving and killing stuff, but a lot of people also try to MF and specialize for specific purposes. It all comes down to what you like to do actually.
@@KvotheD oh yeah, pvp builds are trash with mf lol all mine have only what enigma gives. My “Mf” runs are actually my lvling runs and whatever drops drops. We build for two completely different play styles but I still enjoy watching your content :)
Every Paladin can make Ubers, one point in smithe, Draculs, gores and gulli. doesnt work perfect but did the job. i did with a lammerdin lvl 94, with hoto, and it works with enough +skills.
I literally JUST started searching for a smiter, but didnt want to overcommit since I dont have any respec tokens (dont ask, I've gotten exactly three baal essences and have 3 characters at 90+) and this could just be the perfect middleground between being able to farm chaos/pits and being able to do ubers!
Oh totally, I did ubers with this guy on a budget at lvl ~85, hardest part was Lillith - chug lots of rejuvs there as it is really hard to heal back with any weapon except grief technically. Ubers themselves were pretty easy, for Mephisto proc fade, for Baal get one belt slot of mana pots. Gl man!
Started S1 with this build and did my first 74 ubers on exactly this with budget smiting gear before rolling a dedicated smiter. It's 100% viable. If you play mostly solo, FOH is fantastic and this is absolutely the way to go about it. If you mostly play in groups, FOH doesn't scale well into P5 or higher player counts and you can contribute more as an aurabot, or by doing hybrid hammers/smite and dropping FOH all together.
That's a good question actually! As far as I remmeber in D2R there are very few Passive bonuses from auras - Fire, Cold, Light resistance auras add 0.5% to maximum res per point spent, and Blessed Aim adds 5% to attack rating per point spent. Usually, if there are extra skill points that are not needed people spent on either Light of Fire res ones. Cheers!
Hey Tom, i would look into fanaticism only from the point of IAS breakpoints - check IAS calc and see how many points you need with a grief PB to get there. Then holy shield is porbably a better option overall. Perhaps then you can even put hard points into separate resists (light/fire) for extra cap in resistances.
I was thinking about making a zealot with support from fist of the heavens, but I think I might try this instead, giving it's less workaround to do ubers, thanks a lot
For Zealot you need 60 points + about 10 for most pre-requisites, so you will not make fully synergized FoH i believe. But it could also work, haven't tested tho.
Never take hammers at 18. its a trap. This needs to stop. HF + zeal >>>> BH until like mid NM. Clears fasters and typically has higher single targets dps. Also cost 0 mana, which is the real reason. Now if you got an insight for your merc already, and 2 spirits, and other things you dont have on a fresh start, maybe at the start of NM BH > HF. HF is the goto skill till NM act4.
I'm a relatively new player and had a really hard time from Act 4 onwards on Normal because of my abysmal attack rating. I almost couldn't hit anything. My damage numbers were really high with HF+Zeal but what's the point if I am missing most of my hits. Can't imagine continuing into Nightmare with this setup. Could you explain to me what I was doing wrong, how to have a better experience in the future?
when you hit the one mob that is immune to everything but poison, you skip him. 😂 I tried to fight him with a vengadin and I did 6 damage per second due to a poison charms that was it.
@KvotheD have you seen the maxroll version of this build? I was wondering if it's better to have 2 sets, a hoto and a grief of a do it all set with heavens light
@@KvotheD I think his is Level 20. I guess it does take a bit to overcome it. Or you can just do what I do, use CoH and Exile. I died quite a few times before with dracs/enigma/HoZ, but now I can aggro all 3 ubers without breaking a sweat.
Not a bad build, some improvements I could a suggest though. you dont need fanata, just use concentration. If you use a grief phase blade, even with the lowest 30% ias roll, you only need 35% more ias to hit max smite speed which can be done with laying of hands (also good for the damage boost to demons) and highlords / cats eye. You get more damage and 1 less point needed. Also, deadly strike doesnt apply to smite. However if you have a merc with a reapers toll he can cast decertify alot which will double your damage. Edit: also, exile would be a better shield than hoz for smite/ubers.
Well, couple of points here. Fana can be useful in a group play way more often than concentration. Having dracs for ubers i feel gives more than some extra damage (although it is better to be tested what's more interesting). 1 less point is not such a big sacrafice here. As for DS - yep i wrote it in the video. Merc is 99% dead, if you go solo he just doesn't survive even in the best gear. Exile is... well i don't like it. I mean whole point is - less gear, more versatile build. At this point you can make full smiter and full hammerdin and just play separately right?
@@KvotheD the 350% ED to demons from laying of hands heavily outweighs the 15 str and tap from dracs, which also ends up giving more damage with loss of skills from hoz going to exile. Exile also provides more defense which helps reduce damage being taken by mobs physically missing you. In my experience if you are doing it with a team, conc is still better as it gives more damage to party members than fanata, most peoples physical builds are good on ias and ar on their own, which they should also have gear with -target def on it as well if their doing ubers which lessens their need for AR. The main point to using conc over 1 pt fanata is just to not short yourself damage for ias you dont need To your point of gear, doing a strong hybrid saves you torch/anni, as well as time of leveling and other supporting gear, as well as the cool factor of having a more ‘do it all’ type char.
@@KvotheD i do want to say though that im not trying to take away from your build guide. Its a solid build that 100% works as a more budget minded setup. Im just making suggestions to further advance the build into a stronger but more expensive setup. Discussion is also worth having, even with playing D2 since its launch, and now D2R i can still learn new things and ways of doing builds. Your build actually has me working on a similar build to your guide but a more polished version of it that i otherwise wouldnt have considered if not for this video
Nice nice! I'm fine with the discussion :) although Damage to Demons doesn't work with Smite (same as undead, elemental dmg, charms, deadly strike etc). Good luck with the build!
If you're gonna be swapping a bunch of gear for ubers you might as well just make a dedicated smiter imo. Doesn't take that long to get a second paladin rushed through the game a week or so after a ladder reset. You can theoretically make a FoH/hammerdin that doesn't need to swap gear to do ubers but that becomes _ a lot _ more expensive.... You will end up needing things like a 2/20 circlet, a 2/20 caster amulet and a call to arms scepter with relevant staff mods(+3 to hammers and concentration) so you can use grief on your switch etc.
Grief just a dmg multiplier. If you already have the str, which you would, why not get the extra dmg that will then be multiplied and the extra defense.
Hammerdins are actually not as OP as people claim. Yes they do insane magic damage to which nearly no one is immune to. BUT Blessed Hammers are easy to use but hard to master. Their attack mechanic kinda sucks. They are slow to cast and hard to target (especially corners and near walls targets). Without Enigma, their clearing time is nowhere near the Blizzard Sorceress. With Enigma and fast FCR (and in skilled hands) they can go neck to neck with Blizzard Sorc as clearing time goes. Yes one of the best builds in the game but no better than BlizzSorc, Lighting Sorc, Javazon, Corpse Explosion Nerco or Trap Assassin.
Perfect Diamond gives 19 All Res, Um Rune - 22 All Res. Early on - sure, even 4 socketed pally shield with decent auto mod with 4 P Diamonds can work well.
Blizz sorc cannot do ubers, she has no particular utility for the group (damage will be low ish), best gear is harder to get (DFathom, Nightwings etc). For P1 early MFing - yeah, go for it
@@KvotheD budget Sorc prolly cant but sunder charm Blizzard or even a fire mage with sunder charm just rolls overs the sunder..heck even Hydras kill it now..but more importantly Blizz Sorc can now Rain Nukes on map
Well, hammerdin is old :D seriously tho, yes he can do all of it, however he is less fun to play (to my taste) and positioning (hence enigma) is very important, while FoH can start much easier
Dude.. are all you guys PUNKING me?.. I watch ALL your videos and DB and LLama and tons of others like Sir Fox and Cooley, etc.. why do you ALL love these LIMITED characters?.. I hated finishing the game with all 3 sorcs and find my basic ZEALOT with Rune Master with shaels and open wounds wearing SMOKE and Andy's Visage and Gore and METALGRID plus LOH and dwarf and Ravenfrost with Thundergod's Vigor.. I kill everything FAST.. Diablo and Baal go down WAY faster than hammers or sorc .. and clears Trav faster than my AMAZING WW Barb .. I understand that there's less switching.. is that the ONLY reason I see no Zealots?
I think these people just copy each other and bam thasts what u get. Like if you ever level a fresh pally, HF + zeal will take you to NM act 4 like without thinking about it. No mana issues, no hp issues, you just run and kill entire screens and have massive ST from HF + fire attack damage. The fact that i have seen people told to swap BH at 18-20 on like 4 guides proof s these people havent tried other shit. This allows you keep a respec as well. So you can then god Foh, Bh, or zealots(smite) in late Nm. I'll add they all pick blizzard... for leveling, i think thats awful id rather use a jav on a sorc or a +3 charge bolt staff (the a nova or Fnova one) and then push nova or frost nova (with static) till i hit 30 (maybe saved like 2-3 pts) and go frozen orb. Yeah blizzard is a bad main skill. I want to kill stuff and blizzard misses 1/2 the shit you attack while leveling. Frozen orb scales far worse... but who cares i want to kill shit. I hear nova is even better now... I think blizzard is Good only if you level with frost nova... so you clear with FN and blizzard bosses (or both)... thats a good combo. You never need a respec while leveling via this route as well. Use a Charge bolt +2-3 staff to level to 6 or javs then start pumping frost nova (get Static, Fn -> static a time or 2 -> FN).
Or do what everyone has done for like 20 years, play a hammerdin with the same fana and gear* swap... Idk why everyone is trying to reinvent the game after d2r, you can say it's new coz of 2.4 all you want but it's literally just worse. Also you say "budget" but you use a bunch of shit nobody needs to clear ubers at like 60. To simply point out the lack of knowledge in this guide: a non upd hoz is worse smite DMG than an elite base shield with pdiamonds, or a spirit. Not that you need the DMG coz of CB an open wounds. And the 125 fcr BP is a lot more than just tele frames... It's like 30% dps increase for hammers (can't recall the exact value but it's somewhere around there). And before you come at me with "baal wave 2" JUsT GEar swAp. Or use a Merc. Or farm terror zones for better gear and loot. If you are sp, lower p level for the 1 wave so Emilio can kill them easily, WEP swap to your black rwto help him if you care for the 5sec increase in run speed..etc
I just played a foh pally but I went max fans for merc. Did not work out very well when I got to hell It's doable albeit slow in hell. If holy bolt couldn't kill it, I wound up just using conversion so they would fight themselves. Act 4 river was a breeze. Act 5 rough, had to get Tele staff to finish. Blood lords will turn you into oatmeal and the map I rolled in glacial was PACKED. If I do One for ladder start I will go hammer hybrid. You only need 1 spirit and good resistance. Beat baal by lvl 78, ima roll a new vengeance pally see how it fares.
@@KvotheD no, but that’s not quite a mainstream part of pvm. You can have a pally to do Ubers if you’re into collecting torches.. other than that the nova sorc puts the hammerdin to shame throughout the entire game in all 5 acts. She’s the faster rusher, Baal runner, farmer, etc. Shes faster in chaos, Baal, pretty much everywhere. With my particular infinity wielding build, I’m destroying chaos in 8p games within 45 seconds. I never take any damage to life at all. It’s hard to call a character the ‘true Diablo king’ now that the nova sorc got a buff, and her energy shield became tanky thanks to the mana burn bug fix.
@@patrikbalaz6053 yes, insight on a prayer merc. I never take damage to life because I have 95% es absorb and the 5% that goes to life gets healed for roughly 35-40 every 2 seconds. She rips through chaos alone in about 45 seconds in an 8p game without taking any damage. It’s like cheating lol
>the diablo king: this guy can do EVERYTHING in the game >but finish the whole game with this other build first and respec only thereafter did you even think about this shitty clickbait title of the video for a second
Thank you for the video! However, I don't see how this is a budget build from all the items that you have shown. Enigmas, HoZ with UM rune, HOTO, etc. cannot be put in a category of a budget build. Otherwise good video...
I would still argue that hammer is better, it is easier to build, only require enigma for full potential with decent merc magic immunes are not an issue, easier to maintain with 125%fcr
Thing is, FoH is smoother and faster for mass aoe damage up until P5, further on it falls off. Gear requirements are the same for both builds, even i'd say typically you want a really good 2-20 coronet and 2-20 ammy for Hammerdin, unless you go Spirit shield.
Please don’t listen to this video. If your budget online just go full hammerdin. Hybrid is a expensive build that still don’t do good. It just makes both skills less effective. Full hammerdin budget or not will overpower any foh build. Hammerdin hammerdin hammerdin. Only go foh if your bored of the classic 13 year old hammerdin. Even then don’t got hybrid. Pick one or the other.
Imagine the struggle as a hammerdin/or whatever shit hybrid he is talking about with 80fcr. Dude thinks he found a way to play paladin when people out there already build one way better 14 years ago
Great for him. I like to play build and then make guide, this one was due since...June :D Well, i messed up a little, better to max out vigor and rest in blessed aim with 1 point conc, as in the pinned comment.
Do you play d2r/vanilla d2? In case you don't - paladin with the most budget gear (black rune word and 4 perfect diamonds pally shield) can do ubers with smite and salvation/fanaticism
@@Despond not really … if you think because of sunder charms the game is now broken you clearly didn’t play that much…95% of players play hdin or light sorc … at least with sunder charms some unused build will finally be played , if you dont like this well go back to old school d2 where everyone play hdin
Man, why are you misleading your followers by recommending a build like this? One says he made 500 runs on Diablo in 20 hours. Another says that he has a 65th level character and has dropped the BER rune. And the third in general... stands up from the chair, and his character "independently" exits the game (live broadcast). Once upon a time, I had no idea how many Diablo Bloggers lie... It will be necessary to somehow make a separate video on a similar topic.
@@KvotheD k sorry didn't mean to offend you but as a new player is sometimes frustrating when all the streamers give advice with gg equipment, better give advice how to do things with budget who ever has an enigma doesn't need your advice that is all i didn't mean to offend you or anything
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You deal more damage with hammers if you put only 1 point in Concentration, max Vigor, and then dump your excess points into Blessed Aim. Synergies have a higher contribution than the aura.
I actually did that online, but for the video did the oposite :/ Thanks for spotting it.
With Vigor and Blessed aim you get 4.7k dmg at skill lvl 37, while with Concentration + Vigor only 3.8k dmg
this^
played that build as my starter this ladder and at a certain gear point, u dont even switch to conc and just use redemption all the time for QoL (only switch to conc on bosses like diablo).
@@KvotheD yes and it's because only half of the listed +% of concentration applies to blessed Hammer, in contrary to what you say at about 4:10
Ty for shearing. Video broken ? Might want to remove !
@@frankenstein3163 Nah, a small update can fix that. Putting points into ConC aura isn't bad if you do play in a group, as the larger the group gets the worse your damage scales, so Conc for the party and their mercs does contribute more damage. It all depends on your style of play.
I just tested this build on my 77 lvl pala (offline). This build is good enough to get me through hell and i mean EVERYTHING! I was struggling for the past 2 days in act 3 as a pure hammerdin and pure fister... with this build i breezed through acts 3 4 and 5 and in act 1 i dont even need to use pots anymore
THANK YOU!
For those who wonder im using absolute basic gear:
Spirit shield
+2 to FoH +1 conviction scepter
Peasant crown
Stealth
2x fcr rings, resists amulet
fhr belt+hp belt
sanders boots
chance gloves
Currently using Macro Boi's tri bryd build and it's a lot of fun. Not to mention there's nothing I can't farm. Missing a 2/20 helm to reach max fcr bp, but still works well.
I did an all things paladin with my current hammerdin, the 1 point wonders will totally make everything duable easy. I have been doing something a bit differently wit the paladins as of late, i have been maxing it out holy shield to avoid getting hit, plus fire absorb and light absorb from tgods and dwarf star helps me with ubers greatly. For tristram, highlords makes it so much easier if ur running either zeal or smiter. Pally's are definately the best character in the game
Wearing the duress after proc fade from the treachery is a better option in my opinion, and then adding one hard point to holy shock is what I'll do on top of your suggestion. Anyway, thank you so much for the sharing.
Yes, i had it in mind, might have forgot to mention
My man. Thank you for this video! And all the people in here leaving good informative comments. Been looking to mix it up with my 93 pally❤
Apprecite it! And glad you found some inspiration here!
My paladin always gets a cta built in a war cepter with redemption on it, save points where you can 😊
Kvothe, I watch all of the d2 TH-camrs and I mainly pvp and none of the builds suggested were better than a pvp setup doing pvm. BUUUUTTT this right here. This was the first time l actually respec into a suggested build and it's fantastic. Great job. Keep it up brother.
Thank you for kind words! I think most PVP builds are very good at surviving and killing stuff, but a lot of people also try to MF and specialize for specific purposes. It all comes down to what you like to do actually.
@@KvotheD oh yeah, pvp builds are trash with mf lol all mine have only what enigma gives. My “Mf” runs are actually my lvling runs and whatever drops drops. We build for two completely different play styles but I still enjoy watching your content :)
Every Paladin can make Ubers, one point in smithe, Draculs, gores and gulli. doesnt work perfect but did the job. i did with a lammerdin lvl 94, with hoto, and it works with enough +skills.
I literally JUST started searching for a smiter, but didnt want to overcommit since I dont have any respec tokens (dont ask, I've gotten exactly three baal essences and have 3 characters at 90+) and this could just be the perfect middleground between being able to farm chaos/pits and being able to do ubers!
Oh totally, I did ubers with this guy on a budget at lvl ~85, hardest part was Lillith - chug lots of rejuvs there as it is really hard to heal back with any weapon except grief technically. Ubers themselves were pretty easy, for Mephisto proc fade, for Baal get one belt slot of mana pots. Gl man!
Started S1 with this build and did my first 74 ubers on exactly this with budget smiting gear before rolling a dedicated smiter. It's 100% viable. If you play mostly solo, FOH is fantastic and this is absolutely the way to go about it. If you mostly play in groups, FOH doesn't scale well into P5 or higher player counts and you can contribute more as an aurabot, or by doing hybrid hammers/smite and dropping FOH all together.
this may be a stupid question, but i would like to ask whether defensive and offensive auras have "passive effect" without activating?
That's a good question actually! As far as I remmeber in D2R there are very few Passive bonuses from auras - Fire, Cold, Light resistance auras add 0.5% to maximum res per point spent, and Blessed Aim adds 5% to attack rating per point spent. Usually, if there are extra skill points that are not needed people spent on either Light of Fire res ones. Cheers!
Paladin is and always was king of diablo! :D nice video man!
Haha agreed! Thanks buddy
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This one is a great choice for Season 2 , but what are you starting with?
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What would be the order of skills if you went for improving smiter skills instead of hammers? Fanatism, holy shield then smite?
Hey Tom, i would look into fanaticism only from the point of IAS breakpoints - check IAS calc and see how many points you need with a grief PB to get there. Then holy shield is porbably a better option overall. Perhaps then you can even put hard points into separate resists (light/fire) for extra cap in resistances.
Im pretty sure only half of concentration affects hammers. 500 damage aura gives hammers 250 damage buff
yes, pinned comment :D
How do you do maggot lair?
You use teleport staff and skip it altogether
@@KvotheD Thank you, I'm on console and couldnt get past it
I was thinking about making a zealot with support from fist of the heavens, but I think I might try this instead, giving it's less workaround to do ubers, thanks a lot
For Zealot you need 60 points + about 10 for most pre-requisites, so you will not make fully synergized FoH i believe. But it could also work, haven't tested tho.
My Hammerdin is currently level 90. The second Baal wave is really pissing me off so I’m looking for other options lol
Never take hammers at 18. its a trap. This needs to stop. HF + zeal >>>> BH until like mid NM. Clears fasters and typically has higher single targets dps. Also cost 0 mana, which is the real reason. Now if you got an insight for your merc already, and 2 spirits, and other things you dont have on a fresh start, maybe at the start of NM BH > HF. HF is the goto skill till NM act4.
I'm a relatively new player and had a really hard time from Act 4 onwards on Normal because of my abysmal attack rating. I almost couldn't hit anything. My damage numbers were really high with HF+Zeal but what's the point if I am missing most of my hits. Can't imagine continuing into Nightmare with this setup. Could you explain to me what I was doing wrong, how to have a better experience in the future?
@@NemoRSRB Dex go block helps Ar as well. act 4 is hard becuase of fire resistant mobs prob.
how do you deal with immunities?
There are almost no magic immunes in the game and ou can just skip them
when you hit the one mob that is immune to everything but poison, you skip him. 😂 I tried to fight him with a vengadin and I did 6 damage per second due to a poison charms that was it.
How is the FoH/Smite variant that mrllama made a video of
I guess you will need to ask him :D
@KvotheD have you seen the maxroll version of this build? I was wondering if it's better to have 2 sets, a hoto and a grief of a do it all set with heavens light
2 sets better in my opinion. Not expensive too
I didn't know that when u kill Ubers with a party everyone gets a torch
It's not, everyone gets a standard of heroes, but torch is only one
If you have conviction, you don't need salvation to deal with uber mephisto.
His conviction is level 21 i believe, so you would need to put a bunch of points to have a higher one, so you actually cancel his.
@@KvotheD I think his is Level 20. I guess it does take a bit to overcome it. Or you can just do what I do, use CoH and Exile. I died quite a few times before with dracs/enigma/HoZ, but now I can aggro all 3 ubers without breaking a sweat.
Well i didn't die with salvation as it adds like 100 all res. Enigma and HoZ will be more universal than CoH and Exile tho
@@KvotheD True if you are going for an universal build. My paladin is pretty much an ubers smacker at this point lol
Not a bad build, some improvements I could a suggest though.
you dont need fanata, just use concentration. If you use a grief phase blade, even with the lowest 30% ias roll, you only need 35% more ias to hit max smite speed which can be done with laying of hands (also good for the damage boost to demons) and highlords / cats eye. You get more damage and 1 less point needed.
Also, deadly strike doesnt apply to smite. However if you have a merc with a reapers toll he can cast decertify alot which will double your damage.
Edit: also, exile would be a better shield than hoz for smite/ubers.
Well, couple of points here. Fana can be useful in a group play way more often than concentration. Having dracs for ubers i feel gives more than some extra damage (although it is better to be tested what's more interesting). 1 less point is not such a big sacrafice here.
As for DS - yep i wrote it in the video. Merc is 99% dead, if you go solo he just doesn't survive even in the best gear. Exile is... well i don't like it.
I mean whole point is - less gear, more versatile build. At this point you can make full smiter and full hammerdin and just play separately right?
@@KvotheD the 350% ED to demons from laying of hands heavily outweighs the 15 str and tap from dracs, which also ends up giving more damage with loss of skills from hoz going to exile. Exile also provides more defense which helps reduce damage being taken by mobs physically missing you. In my experience if you are doing it with a team, conc is still better as it gives more damage to party members than fanata, most peoples physical builds are good on ias and ar on their own, which they should also have gear with -target def on it as well if their doing ubers which lessens their need for AR. The main point to using conc over 1 pt fanata is just to not short yourself damage for ias you dont need
To your point of gear, doing a strong hybrid saves you torch/anni, as well as time of leveling and other supporting gear, as well as the cool factor of having a more ‘do it all’ type char.
@@KvotheD i do want to say though that im not trying to take away from your build guide. Its a solid build that 100% works as a more budget minded setup. Im just making suggestions to further advance the build into a stronger but more expensive setup. Discussion is also worth having, even with playing D2 since its launch, and now D2R i can still learn new things and ways of doing builds. Your build actually has me working on a similar build to your guide but a more polished version of it that i otherwise wouldnt have considered if not for this video
Nice nice! I'm fine with the discussion :) although Damage to Demons doesn't work with Smite (same as undead, elemental dmg, charms, deadly strike etc). Good luck with the build!
@@KvotheD crap, thats right it doesnt. So much to try and remember in a 20 year old game lmfao
i would love to see you solo ubers with this build
So max vigor I stead of concentration?
Depends on how you play, solo i say yes, in a group - check on what your group needs more
If you're gonna be swapping a bunch of gear for ubers you might as well just make a dedicated smiter imo. Doesn't take that long to get a second paladin rushed through the game a week or so after a ladder reset. You can theoretically make a FoH/hammerdin that doesn't need to swap gear to do ubers but that becomes _ a lot _ more expensive.... You will end up needing things like a 2/20 circlet, a 2/20 caster amulet and a call to arms scepter with relevant staff mods(+3 to hammers and concentration) so you can use grief on your switch etc.
doesn't upd hoz do more smite dmg?
it does, although with Grief i don't think it matters
Grief just a dmg multiplier. If you already have the str, which you would, why not get the extra dmg that will then be multiplied and the extra defense.
@@donfri6700 bc hes a nub making half ignorant advices
At one point you say you need 80fcr and at another point 75, might want to correct that to just 75.
its a real bad video tbh
Great video bro. Paladin is my favourite class.😊🎉
Hammerdins are actually not as OP as people claim.
Yes they do insane magic damage to which nearly no one is immune to. BUT
Blessed Hammers are easy to use but hard to master. Their attack mechanic kinda sucks. They are slow to cast and hard to target (especially corners and near walls targets).
Without Enigma, their clearing time is nowhere near the Blizzard Sorceress. With Enigma and fast FCR (and in skilled hands) they can go neck to neck with Blizzard Sorc as clearing time goes.
Yes one of the best builds in the game but no better than BlizzSorc, Lighting Sorc, Javazon, Corpse Explosion Nerco or Trap Assassin.
blablabla... you just tryin to stay less or more in down left corner and hammers annihilate everything
Why not socket the shield with a perfect diamond for 3 more % res.
Perfect Diamond gives 19 All Res, Um Rune - 22 All Res. Early on - sure, even 4 socketed pally shield with decent auto mod with 4 P Diamonds can work well.
I play this build like 4months. My hybrid is FOH + Samite/FANA. It's enough
I played it from the start of Season 1, just finally made a video :)
Amazing video! Thanks man
Thanks!
Always making top content
youtuber: want to build the best character ever?
me: yes
youtuber: step 1- take a paladin..
me: ..i see you've played d2 before
Step 2 be gigachad and pick barbarian
Exile is one of the best paladin shild !
Unfortunatel only for one use - ubers. And typically i find it really not that much needed.
or u can make a blizzard sorceress and get a sunder charm late game > way easier lol unless u rly want to play a pally
Blizz sorc cannot do ubers, she has no particular utility for the group (damage will be low ish), best gear is harder to get (DFathom, Nightwings etc). For P1 early MFing - yeah, go for it
@@KvotheD budget Sorc prolly cant but sunder charm Blizzard or even a fire mage with sunder charm just rolls overs the sunder..heck even Hydras kill it now..but more importantly Blizz Sorc can now Rain Nukes on map
guys, trust me on this, go 125fcr hes limiting you greatly
Hammerdin with 1 pt in smite and fana can already do everything, no need for hybrid
Well, hammerdin is old :D seriously tho, yes he can do all of it, however he is less fun to play (to my taste) and positioning (hence enigma) is very important, while FoH can start much easier
Dude.. are all you guys PUNKING me?.. I watch ALL your videos and DB and LLama and tons of others like Sir Fox and Cooley, etc.. why do you ALL love these LIMITED characters?.. I hated finishing the game with all 3 sorcs and find my basic ZEALOT with Rune Master with shaels and open wounds wearing SMOKE and Andy's Visage and Gore and METALGRID plus LOH and dwarf and Ravenfrost with Thundergod's Vigor.. I kill everything FAST.. Diablo and Baal go down WAY faster than hammers or sorc .. and clears Trav faster than my AMAZING WW Barb .. I understand that there's less switching.. is that the ONLY reason I see no Zealots?
I think these people just copy each other and bam thasts what u get. Like if you ever level a fresh pally, HF + zeal will take you to NM act 4 like without thinking about it. No mana issues, no hp issues, you just run and kill entire screens and have massive ST from HF + fire attack damage. The fact that i have seen people told to swap BH at 18-20 on like 4 guides proof s these people havent tried other shit. This allows you keep a respec as well. So you can then god Foh, Bh, or zealots(smite) in late Nm.
I'll add they all pick blizzard... for leveling, i think thats awful id rather use a jav on a sorc or a +3 charge bolt staff (the a nova or Fnova one) and then push nova or frost nova (with static) till i hit 30 (maybe saved like 2-3 pts) and go frozen orb. Yeah blizzard is a bad main skill. I want to kill stuff and blizzard misses 1/2 the shit you attack while leveling. Frozen orb scales far worse... but who cares i want to kill shit. I hear nova is even better now... I think blizzard is Good only if you level with frost nova... so you clear with FN and blizzard bosses (or both)... thats a good combo. You never need a respec while leveling via this route as well. Use a Charge bolt +2-3 staff to level to 6 or javs then start pumping frost nova (get Static, Fn -> static a time or 2 -> FN).
Or do what everyone has done for like 20 years, play a hammerdin with the same fana and gear* swap... Idk why everyone is trying to reinvent the game after d2r, you can say it's new coz of 2.4 all you want but it's literally just worse. Also you say "budget" but you use a bunch of shit nobody needs to clear ubers at like 60.
To simply point out the lack of knowledge in this guide: a non upd hoz is worse smite DMG than an elite base shield with pdiamonds, or a spirit. Not that you need the DMG coz of CB an open wounds. And the 125 fcr BP is a lot more than just tele frames... It's like 30% dps increase for hammers (can't recall the exact value but it's somewhere around there).
And before you come at me with "baal wave 2" JUsT GEar swAp. Or use a Merc. Or farm terror zones for better gear and loot. If you are sp, lower p level for the 1 wave so Emilio can kill them easily, WEP swap to your black rwto help him if you care for the 5sec increase in run speed..etc
It looked like people are tbagging the demons when they spam abilities :)
Hmm...I may need to do my own videos on builds... I've got one that'll work even better I think.
Share it!
Diablo fire breath is actually not fire, it is lightning.
Thanks !
I just played a foh pally but I went max fans for merc. Did not work out very well when I got to hell
It's doable albeit slow in hell. If holy bolt couldn't kill it, I wound up just using conversion so they would fight themselves. Act 4 river was a breeze.
Act 5 rough, had to get Tele staff to finish. Blood lords will turn you into oatmeal and the map I rolled in glacial was PACKED.
If I do One for ladder start I will go hammer hybrid.
You only need 1 spirit and good resistance.
Beat baal by lvl 78, ima roll a new vengeance pally see how it fares.
A top gear nova sorc trumps the hammerdin now. She clears faster, and has far better survival. Before the nova buff, the hammerdin was on top.
well, can she do ubers?
@@KvotheD no, but that’s not quite a mainstream part of pvm. You can have a pally to do Ubers if you’re into collecting torches.. other than that the nova sorc puts the hammerdin to shame throughout the entire game in all 5 acts. She’s the faster rusher, Baal runner, farmer, etc. Shes faster in chaos, Baal, pretty much everywhere. With my particular infinity wielding build, I’m destroying chaos in 8p games within 45 seconds. I never take any damage to life at all. It’s hard to call a character the ‘true Diablo king’ now that the nova sorc got a buff, and her energy shield became tanky thanks to the mana burn bug fix.
@@cjdig86 do you have the infinity on your self?
@@patrikbalaz6053 yes, insight on a prayer merc. I never take damage to life because I have 95% es absorb and the 5% that goes to life gets healed for roughly 35-40 every 2 seconds. She rips through chaos alone in about 45 seconds in an 8p game without taking any damage. It’s like cheating lol
>the diablo king: this guy can do EVERYTHING in the game
>but finish the whole game with this other build first and respec only thereafter
did you even think about this shitty clickbait title of the video for a second
So....why no Pally
Enough is enough :D I think of doing a lot CS farm with him in single player tho, but it is a bit far ahead
Thank you for the video! However, I don't see how this is a budget build from all the items that you have shown. Enigmas, HoZ with UM rune, HOTO, etc. cannot be put in a category of a budget build. Otherwise good video...
This buil WORKS with Budget gear which is standard caster gear. Gear here is what you need to get to eventually
look im coming over ok
My Tesladin can do everything solo at P8 w/o any problem,even Ubers tristram :P
(Offline mode,PS4) :D
Arguably way more expensive :D But i would love to make one at some point too
I would still argue that hammer is better, it is easier to build, only require enigma for full potential with decent merc magic immunes are not an issue, easier to maintain with 125%fcr
Thing is, FoH is smoother and faster for mass aoe damage up until P5, further on it falls off. Gear requirements are the same for both builds, even i'd say typically you want a really good 2-20 coronet and 2-20 ammy for Hammerdin, unless you go Spirit shield.
Please don’t listen to this video. If your budget online just go full hammerdin. Hybrid is a expensive build that still don’t do good. It just makes both skills less effective. Full hammerdin budget or not will overpower any foh build. Hammerdin hammerdin hammerdin. Only go foh if your bored of the classic 13 year old hammerdin. Even then don’t got hybrid. Pick one or the other.
exactly this video is full of noob comments
Imagine the struggle as a hammerdin/or whatever shit hybrid he is talking about with 80fcr. Dude thinks he found a way to play paladin when people out there already build one way better 14 years ago
TELL ME SOMETHING WE ALL DONT KNOW
macrobioboi put this out 6 months ago bro. the only difference is he maxed blessed aim and 1 pointed concentration. dumped rest into vigor. l
Great for him. I like to play build and then make guide, this one was due since...June :D Well, i messed up a little, better to max out vigor and rest in blessed aim with 1 point conc, as in the pinned comment.
hammers til u can make pride polearm for merc
Pride and your level 1 conc with + skills will be the same, and all you need is just press a hotkey whenever you need to use hammers
Demo the build. For instance Ubers weren’t shown
Do you play d2r/vanilla d2? In case you don't - paladin with the most budget gear (black rune word and 4 perfect diamonds pally shield) can do ubers with smite and salvation/fanaticism
The one build that rules them all is Assassin hahaha
ou ou ou , STOP! have another desigen , you can give your mercenary PRIDE weapon for 20 skill Concentrate
Of course it’s a paladin lol
*kang
Everyone already uses hammerdin nub…
The most overpowered skill ever…they really have to nerf blessed hammer …
No they don't. Sunder charms have broken the game.
@@Despond not really … if you think because of sunder charms the game is now broken you clearly didn’t play that much…95% of players play hdin or light sorc … at least with sunder charms some unused build will finally be played , if you dont like this well go back to old school d2 where everyone play hdin
Do you wan´t a build what can do every thing? yes you heared right everything.
Then you´re wrong here cause it can´t even clear the story properly.
Man, why are you misleading your followers by recommending a build like this?
One says he made 500 runs on Diablo in 20 hours. Another says that he has a 65th level character and has dropped the BER rune. And the third in general... stands up from the chair, and his character "independently" exits the game (live broadcast).
Once upon a time, I had no idea how many Diablo Bloggers lie... It will be necessary to somehow make a separate video on a similar topic.
Lol, you are onto something
Nice p1 build
I just dont enjoy the playstyle
Typically i say the same for Hammerdin, but FoH really got me hooked
@@KvotheD yea foh for sure but hammers eh. Might do a foh next ladder.
Paladin is super op, need a nerf.
Nah, other classes may have a little uplift, epsecially underpowered skills
Paladin is most lame class because its too op. Hope blizz wake up and nerf him
enigma is so low budget
Who said Enigma is low budget?
@@KvotheD isn't this a low budget character?
This character can be made and very well played with low budget gear, which i mention. Final gear is what you are looking for in the end
@@KvotheD k sorry didn't mean to offend you but as a new player is sometimes frustrating when all the streamers give advice with gg equipment, better give advice how to do things with budget who ever has an enigma doesn't need your advice that is all i didn't mean to offend you or anything
First 5 seconds of the video
"On a budget"
*uses enigma*
so your showcase of soloing ubers is doing ubers with 4 other people.
🤣 paladin needs smite lvl1 to beat ubers, no need for a specific demonstration.