Hyundai Assembly 10 - ECMlink Install & Speed Density config
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- I wasn't paid for or asked to make this video. Whenever someone makes a product that improves one's quality of life and experience... and I buy it, then you see me use that product on my channel because that's just what I do. This video is just intended to be my ten cent tour of how easy it was to install ECMlink and to configure my 92 Hyundai Elantra for Speed Density airflow metering. Really I just followed directions that were on the ECMtuning website, and you should always follow the manufacturer's recommendations over mine. I just wanted to show this one off because...
1) I love ECMlink.
2) I get lots of questions about what software I'm using in my videos.
3) I collect tools. Though some people call this a "mod", to me it doesn't stop there. This is a diagnostic tool. It's a tuning aide. It's a data-logger. It's a power-adder and economy booster. It's a complete engine management solution that doesn't require cutting or soldering a single wire on your electrical harness to use it.
But fourth and most importantly...
4) I've always had a great experience with this product as well as all the awesome people who make it and support it… I'm very grateful to Dave and Tom, especially for attending gatherings, events and dyno days to give back the community. I'm thankful for all the contributors in the forums who continue sharing their knowledge.
If you are interested in getting the hardware and software necessary to support your 90-99 DSM or EVO 1, 2, or 3... these links will help you get started:
Website: www.ecmtuning.com/
Wiki pages: www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/
Demo videos: www.ecmtuning.com/demos.php
How to buy - click the link that applies to you and READ THOROUGHLY
Order page: www.ecmtuning.com/index.php?cP...
INSTALLING AND CONFIGURING SPEED DENSITY WIKI: *
www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/sdsetup
* Follow these instructions first and foremost. My video only proves it can be done.
jjrock5's ECMlink install on a 2nd generation DSM:
• DSMLink ECMLink V3 / E...
My personal testimony:
10 years ago, I won DSMlink v2 in a raffle at the DSMCA GT9 gathering. Tom was there giving away an ECU. Somehow my number was drawn. I won it. It is the holy grail of raffle prizes at a DSM event, and any one of the 10 people who have ever been so lucky will all tell you this.
In 2005, I had been using the MAFT system for fuel tuning and I was beyond ready for something new because I wasn't getting the results I wanted. After installing DSMlink, the car's next journey was a DSMCA Dyno Day where once again, Tom was there supporting entrants with their tunes on his product. By the time the 6th pull was over, Tom had dialed in EIGHTY horsepower at red line that I didn't previously have. The car used to peak and fall off, but the power curve peaked and held all the way to red line afterwards. The video doesn't lie, but sadly it was captured with a potato cam. The before/after results were astounding. The one who's vociferously surprised by the before/after in the video - is Tom. While peak power did not increase, there was a 33% gain in power output at 7000 RPMs.
Without DSMlink: • 1st time on the dyno
With DSMlink:
• Dyno tuning with maker...
If you look at the order page and balk at the price, something's wrong with you. If you were to divide the price of ECMlink by the number of features it contains, they would cost only a few cents each. If you compare it to stand-alone solutions, it's an outright bargain. Of course, if you own ECMlink already, then like me... you feel sorry for everyone who doesn't have it unless you're racing against them.
Some of the electrical procedures outlined in the factory service manual require special tools which are now antiquated and/or discontinued, or the procedure is rife with complicated processes to do simple tasks (setting the idle speed for instance). You will never see me follow the FSM methods for these tasks in my videos. I am going to grab my laptop, plug in my ECMlink cable and check the box or button that gives me easy and immediate solutions to my problem. I offer no apologies for this. If you're here because I sent you the link when you asked me what software I'm using, I hope you feel I've done my very best to answer your question.
For the patient people who watched all the way to the end, that link goes to a video that is not public. That is your reward. Thank you all for your time and attention, and especially, Thank You Tom! Thank you for your contributions to the DSMCA community that built me. Thank you for the raffle. Nothing happens by accident. I won my first ECMtuning product, you gained a life-long customer out of me, and this video is my way of saying "thanks" for all you have done to help our community thrive on race day.
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The breadth of your knowledge of diverse specialisms is nothing short of breathtaking. We are truly not worthy. 🙏🏻😳
The fact that you're wearing a Tool shirt makes this video that much more credible. Maynard approved.
Im not in anyway into cars but sport bikes are my life. Ive learned a lot for your videos and can't thank you enough for what you have done. Im going to be taking on my own project doing many of the things I've seen you do to this car. Port, polish, and a turbo, plus fuel management system to a Hayabusa sometime in the next few months because of what Ive seen you do in your garage. Thanks a lot, from all of us that can't afford to have someone work on our cars/bikes!
This is my favorite TV series, hands down. The Palm Pilot bit had me laughing my arse off. Hats off, once again, Jafro!
*Standing ovation*
Yes sir! Yes! Yes! Always read your agreements. I remember a company that had a program and in the agreement they had a website address and it had you fill in your info (without any other info) they had one, one person who ever read it and they sent him a 10 grand check.
Best youtube channel? In my opinion, yes.
Keep it up Jafro, don't change a thing.
Jafromobile is the top dog in my subscribe box for sure.
I saw one of your comments on Toms v8 miata build and thought to myself" I wonder when he will release another video." Bam, a hour later, a new video. Sweet.
I'm later than you to the ECMlink game. I have had my car since 2006 and my ECMlink V3 arrives next week. I'm watching your videos ( again ) in preparation.
Love the videos Jafro. Has been great for teaching me new methods for blueprinting my engine and keeping me motivated while building my RB26. I think you've made the most educational series of automotive videos on the internet...no joke.
Ben C Doood, thank you! That's very flattering!
Hehe, I watched the Hyundai series again in the hopes a new episode may come as I finish watching the last one, and it did!
Great video. I know some people out there needed a good setup video to help them get tuning. And yes there are a few of us ecu hackers still working with the 1g and 2g binary files and a eprom emulator . I just added 2 step and nlts to my stock 2g binary and it works great next steps I will be taking is swapping over to speed density and rewriting the hex code for it. As for dsm link it is a great tool as well. And the support is wonderful. Tom from ecu tuning helped me out a a ecu for my 97 spyder capped socketed and even swapped the cas inversion to work on my 6/7 bolt configuration with the 1g cas sensor without asking great company. Keep the videos coming looking forward to seeing this build put down some numbers.
Brian Smith I wish I did have more experience with it. Because I've had DSMlink for a decade, I haven't had much need to, so that's why I don't know much about it. Having a RAM-based ecu configuration can spoil you.
I still find myself going back to Jafromobile for reference. You sir are a gift lol
good to see u posting again..
Another great video - thanks man. Can't wait to see if you do some SD tuning with your next one
Another Video!! This just made my night :)
Very insightful video on the ECM link.
love your vids bro, im about to order my dsmlink pretty soon
Nice video, please upload more tuning videos with ecmlink, maybe like a step by step like this video. I have in the process of building my 3rd Dsm and I'm going to be getting ecmlink for the first time and I want to learn how to go about it, I'm more of visual learner then a reader lol. Thanks for the upload
Thanks you for making ecm link video
Yesssss, long awaited
Thank you Jafro!!!
Keep up the good work.
Great video jafro wish I had the money to get my 9i gsm going again. But love you ecm link tutorial. Are you going to be tuning it yourself.? Also if you do make a video of you tune you might make me get ride of me v1 AEM. I really love the simplicity of dsmlink.
I'm new to tuning. Which temperature sensor did you use and which map? And Why? What are the benifits of that set up vs like a gm maf?
Also excellent series. I'm just getting into the DSM world and your videos are amazingly helpful. You have answered countless questions I have had.
***** Yesss about time.
i cant wait for next video! wana se that baby run!
but damn Ecmlink work nice!
make wanna have a Dsm..
tat mustang splits & GETS!
NICE RIDE!
Yeah! Was too excited to see the notification for this video pop up on my phone. I watched Part 9 (again) last night and was hoping another part of the saga would be ready soon. I've learned an immense amount from these videos - can't thank you enough for that. Just curious: why the Apple hardware? Don't worry, I'm not part of either "camp" or interested in judging you. I built my own PC for the enjoyment of the build and I game when I can. PC seems like the natural choice for that task. I also have a mid 2009 Macbook Pro being used as a HTPC right now. It's a real trooper and has given me almost no trouble. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on why Apple stuff works for you.
Again, thanks for these videos, Jafro. Inspiring stuff.
He uses Macs in his day job (er, unless he's switched jobs in the last few years), so he's already very familiar with them. It's a college, so he might also be able to buy them at the educational institution discount price. I'll stick with Linux, though, so I was really happy when Jafro mentioned that ECMlink supports us penguins. I didn't know that until seeing his video. Sweet.
Right on. Thanks for the reply, William Dye!
bnwbr I swear I replied to this already, I don't know why it's not here? William's right. Jafro Macs because Batman. By day I'm a tier 3 technical coordinator for 9500 users connected to a private university. Primarily I support Apple products and I'm uniquely positioned in that... When a new machine comes out, I have it because I design, build and deploy the environment that the faculty and staff use. I don't have any attachments to computers because they're only with me for a short time. Maintaining them is my job.
By night, I'm a defender of all things DSM and a master of taskbars, delivering cold hard 4g63 justice to the world. That's why it's a Jafromobile. If Batman can have a Batmobile... Why can't Jafro have a Jafromobile?
There are lots of great Batman channels on TH-cam. You kinduv have to Batman in order to TH-cam channel, because TH-cam doesn't pay batman enough to build his Batmobile.
Darn....you are good.....the suspense....
Jafro, a easy way to mount your GM MAP sensor, Jeep Cherokee's have a neat bracket that jeeps use a GM MAP sensor that mounts on the sensors that has 2 bolt holes and you can mount anyway in your. that what I did to all my 1g cars, works great.
You should do a video on the tuning aspect of speed density
Great video jafro hope to see soon than the last video jjajaja
Hey that Tool shirt is rad!
Sam Rotshtein The concert was even better than the shirt! 3 huge circular frikkin' stage light rings detached from the stage and floated around a 15,000 seat arena for the entire duration of Wings For Marie/10,000 days. Complete with smoke and lasers. They stretched that song out to 28 minutes. BTW, Tool is back in the studio right now. Now that the lawsuit is over, they're predicting a release before the end of the year. At least I upload videos more frequently than once every 9 years.
***** I was at that concert, the one in DC. Great show, also one of my favorite bands of all time. Had a chance to talk to Maynard once, blew my mind. Can you believe it, judge threw out the case. Turned out to be a Tool head. HA.
DisplayName YES! The Judge's name was the Honorable RANDY RHOADES! That's the best flippin' part of the whole ruling. It just sucks that it crushed their creativity for almost a whole decade. F that insurance company. They did everything they could to unnecessarily bankrupt the band.
haha your dads palm pilot displayed in pencil im still laughing. I also had mine hooked up back in 2001
Andrew Maes I used a Palm Treo 650 as a phone until 2013. lol. I had that phone for 9 years. It's in my Hyundai Elantra Surprise video with a busted screen. It wouldn't die, and I couldn't kill it.
LEGENDARY
Yes!!!! TOOL shirt!!! :D
very interesting!!
Like for the tool shirt.
hey bro, you should make a vid on just data logging and making changes to the values, from start to finish :)
kudos bro
I've wanted to make exactly the video you're describing, but I can't seem to tune anything on it right without traction and a consistent electrical system. That car is currently sitting up in the air on jack stands, getting some suspension and tire work done. I'm going to re-visit the alternator install, too. I think I can do it better. I think the alternator isn't spinning fast enough. The voltage regulator overheats after about an hour. It didn't do this with the factory alternator in it. Sorry if that's a spoiler.
best out there.
Jafro, I've been a longtime fan and noticed you've never done a video explaining installing new rings and honing the cylinder. Any tips for a first timer?
So let me get this right. You installed map vacuum in intake where pcv used to go into. And pcv valve you now have connected to an oil catch can correct?
I just received my new V3 ECM link a couple weeks ago and have been pouring over the wiki and forum but there doesn't seem to be a clear winner in the Speed Density vs. GM MAF debate. I recently purchased a 1990 AWD Talon rally car that I'm resurrecting to rally once again after years of neglect. Considering my use will be rally, what would you suggest and why?
Wish I would’ve received an exam tubing shirt when I made my purchase through them.
Hi, What was the fix you applied to start the car? Mine wont start too, when I shift to SD, I have a evo 1 ecu using MAF609, all good using stock maf type, but once I changed to SD, car will shut off and will not start :( Hope to hear from you soon.
Pocket logged also did modified ecu's for second gen RX7s, we had two way communications with that for adjusting fuel, timing, injector staging, and injector sizes. But like with the DSM it still relied on Palm, you could make it work on pc with a palm emulator, but thats a moot point now.
spikederailed Yessir! I... I hope nobody thinks I was bashing the pocketlogger product itself. Really I'm picking on the Palm hardware. At least that's what was intended. I was meaning to convey that the pocketlogger was the only thing that made a palm useful. lol.
The palm "worked", but like you mentioned the battery backed memory was a real downfall. Loading the application onto the sd card(M515) kept that from happening though.
Not sure how much experience you have with this Jafro, but I just put a JDM Evo 7 ECU into my GSR Lancer (after the Evo 6 ECU Bricked itself on a test write..) I have a tactrix Openport 2.0 cable, not the 1.3, and it seems that I cant log things like knocksum with it using EvoScan, should I just get the 1.3 cable?
Again, no idea if you have any experience with reflashing stock ECU's, but figured Id ask :)
haha i remember learning palm pilot in school!
Great progress on the build, and a great video as well Jafro,I got dsmlink v3 full about a year or so ago, I like all of the features so far, its like a standalone engine management system... well minus the cost and the extra work involved, also wanted to know by any chance have you heard about dsmlinktools, its a program that aids in dialing in a tune, might want to look into it.
Mitsubishikid It's been pulled by the developer. Speed shops were charging people for using their [free] tool, and I missed the boat on it. It would be unfair for me to demonstrate it if nobody else can get it.
Yeah I heard about those nasty shops, it was a shame for all the honest folks that needed the fine software tools, I am in contact with the developer, hes a great guy, if you want I can kindly ask him if he's willing to let you in on his latest works.
Mitsubishikid Would love to. Would feature it if it helped him out somehow? I've already heard others sing praises about it, and would rather receive it from the developer than someone else in the community just because it feels more honest. But if he wants to keep it under wraps, I totally understand.
Lol, mentioning the Palm Pilot made me laugh, I remember Brian Blessed (RIP) exclaiming "Palm Pilot, sounds like a wanking machine!" as one was presented as a prize on some tv show, genius!
Does the turbo timer go into the tuning equation at all? I sort of understand what a turbo timer does, but on this particular setup does it play any role at all? If so how? Do you think all setups should have a turbo timer? If so, what features should a good turbo timer have? Sorry for the barrage of questions, just finally remembered to ask.
+BoostedCajun It's interesting that you should bring that up. I had to move the trigger wire for my relay to the ground wire on my turbo timer because when I cut the car off, my wideband o2 sensor stopped working, causing the car to go stupid lean. It's at idle, so it didn't cause me to blow up my engine, but it's definitely not good for it or the o2 sensor's calibration. Turbo timers need to do one thing, keep the car running at idle for a couple minutes. An adjustable run-time is a good thing. Other than that, the other features built into them have better equivalents available in separate devices. For instance, I have one in my Galant with an A/F gauge function, but it's narrowband... and that's everything short of useless. That just tells you your o2 sensor works.
Hey jafro, you wouldn't want to produce those map sensor brackets would you? They look amazing compared to what I've seen.
Chris Fisher Hahah… nope! The 1 problem being the cast bracket comes on the car, and I don't have a source or a part number anywhere to buy them. The one I used came from the Colt engine because the Hyundai never had it. It's not perfect. It has its problems. It makes adjusting the timing really difficult because it blocks the swing of the wrench where you tighten and loosen the cam angle sensor.
The other problem is this… when I spend time producing parts, I'm not spending time making videos. There may come a day where I begin manufacturing a product, but I've got 3 other busted DSMs to fix for the sake of your educations and entertainment first. Please feel free to copy me, I don't hold any patents. ;)
Installed the driver, but it doesn't appear in the list. I tried to uninstall and reinstall everything. I ended up manually putting it in, but I don't know if it will work since it was not registered in the first place. I won't be home for awhile to test the manual input but I have had this problem and had to use my old macbook for awhile now because of this issue.
Bradajay On who? On the Mac side? Which OS version and which software package? v2 was the only one that's ever been tricky for me.
Try enabling root, and performing the installation from there. Make sure you're running Apple's version of Java. If you have more than one version of Java, make sure the drivers are in the right directory for the version set as your default. If none of this works, post your question in the ECMtuning forums. ;)
A few things I noticed, no meth injection? How would you run it now that you have a sensor where meth injection nozzle normally is situated? If/when you install the meth injection kit, will that mess with the GM temp sensor's readings? Thanks for all the helpful info, I will be using a lot of the same fuel,ECU and air mod's you've used on this project. Thanks again for this GEM of DSM related info you gave us here. Now to watch the next video again..... ;-)
BoostedCajun You just need the sensor several inches upstream from the meth injection nozzle and it won't mess anything up. At the moment I'm more concerned with tuning without it, then adding it so that I can achieve the maximum benefit. You'll see how I deal with the nozzle. :)
***** Sweet! Glad to hear the Hyundibishi run again!
If its helpful. Next time you want to Shut down windows 7 and not install updates. click on the desktop then press ALT + F4 and from the drop down list select "Shut Down"
I just want to see this beast on a dyno 😆
iMann iFail Me too! I can't put this wideband in fast enough. I've got an idea of what to expect if I can hold all my boost in. :)
I have an idea as well.. It'll be interesting to see what boost pressure you'll go for.
Have you ever read a used agreement and then returned the part or didn't agree because of the language in said agreement? By the way, good video and series!
I appreciate the vid but I'm not sure I haven't done all that it doesn't want to connect ever, but does connect to my buddies windows comp. so I see you have windows on your computer how does one do that?
AllFourSpinDsm Un-install your current installation. Un-install the Oracle version of Java if it's on your machine. Log in as root and re-install it. Find the Apple version of Java (2014-001) and install that. Install ECMlink last. Unless there's some other piece of security software on your mac that disables Java, everything should be in the right places and it should work. You can't install it successfully from a non-administrator user or from an administrator user having the "502" or "secondary admin" user number. Only the first administrator created on the machine and the root user will have privileges to install Kernel Extensions into the /System/Library/Extensions folder, and that's what the serial driver is. It's a Kernel extension. After the install, restart the machine, log back in and make your connection. The serial driver installer doesn't invoke a reboot, and us Mac users are used to installing software that just works without having to do that. You can launch it all day long and never connect if you don't restart afterwards.
If you don't know what your user number is, you can open the Terminal, type "cd /Users/" return. Type "ls -alon" return. It will show your user directories, and just to the left it will display the user numbers of your accounts. 501 is the primary admin.
If you want to enable root access, go to /System/Library/Core Services and launch the application "Directory Access". It's in the menubar options after you click the lock and authenticate as an administrator. Select "Enable Root User" and set your root password. Log out, and log in as other: root with the password you just created. As that user, there's nothing on that Mac that you can't access. You don't even need to authenticate installers because you're root.
Disable root when you're done for security reasons.
ECMlink works great on the Mac once you get it connected. I really did it that easy in one take with what I feel is the second most problematic version of MacOS (after Lion 10.7), on a fresh install and that's how it went for me. The only thing I can think of is Java not having rights to run, an incomplete installation, security software blocking it, or another program hogging the USB bus. If you wanted to run Windows on your Intel Mac, there's an application in the Utilities folder called "Boot Camp" that will help you get it set up. ECMlink for Mac works great on everything from 10.6 to 10.10 in my experience. I even ran v2 on a Mac when it wasn't supported. v3 has come a long way.
Would a programmable cpu be any benefit if it is running wide open throttle 95% of the time, like mine. I heard that at WOT the cpu isn't really doing anything, just dumping all the fuel the injectors can handle. Just like to know if it's worth the investment.
SupermanBPR9 Yes, because you can adjust your timing, and how the open loop fuel tables (wide open throttle) behave. For instance. Your ECU has a default timing table that it uses to determine how much ignition timing it can get away with. If you're not knocking, you can add more timing advance and make more power. If you're running rich, you can lean out the mixture and... yes... make more power. It's possible to throw enough fuel on the fire to put it out. Fuel needs air. Nailing that razor's edge between air and fuel makes the most of your fire.
I think this was well demonstrated with my dyno videos. Nothing changed on my car except for the ECU an the paint job from my first visit to my second. Thomas Dorris from ECMtuning dialed in an extra 80 hp for me at red line on my second visit. Without DSMlink, it peaked power output around 5200 RPMs and fell off. After ECMlink it peaked and held all the way to red line. It completely changed how the car pulled through the gears on track day.
Great tool, but how much was the software and cables to do all of that?
***** The software is free, and the cable comes with it. You just tell them what generation your DSM is, and they send you the cable with your completed order. It's included in the ECU modification package. If you want to buy another cable, that's another story. But it won't work without first having ECMlink.
I'm watching from my note3 i can't access the link i don't have laptop :-(
I wish they made this
Software for EVO 8 and 9
The link for the for the end of the description.
iconone5 ROFL! It is longer than the ECMtuning license agreement, isn't it?
do they offer this tuning solution for a GM tbi ecu?
No, sorry. It's just the OBD I and OBD II Mitsubishi ECUs. While you can use a lot of GM sensors with this modification, its designed purpose is for I4 Mitsubishi 4-bangers. There are other great solutions out there for the GM stuff.
I have been looking at streettunedmotorsport (stm tuned) and have not found that throttle body elbow is it still available?
+Da Bozz No, they do not. It's a shame that they don't. I feel like it was discontinued before I could finish the edits.
:( STMtuned sold it, but it is an ETS part. ETS would have been the ones pulling the plug. There is now a hole in the marketplace.
+Jafromobile I emailed stm and they said they are willing to make me a new one! Thanks for the quick reply. I'm new to the 4g63 and I'm installing a hx35 on my gsx and your videos are gold keep up the good work!!!
+Jafromobile I've found two alternatives! You'd have to get an SD bung welded in, but it's the same diameter of the SDTBE shown on this video. This particular one is modeled after the HKS SD TBE that is now discontinued, but they have a few floating around on Ebay if you look.
Buschur Racing TBE --> secure.buschurracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?
products_id=1676&osCsid=dslhklwuoxcjh
HKS SD TBE --> www.ebay.com/itm/4g63-Turbo-Dsm-HKS-Throttle-Body-Elbow-Jdm-Eclipse-Talon-Laser-1g-2g-Rare-/161985240291?hash=item25b7129ce3:g:2FoAAOSwXshWs9Qx&vxp=mtr
I'm preparing to install my eprom ecu in my 1g. The previous owner had a apexi SAFC installed. Is there any reason/s to remove this unit before installing the new ecu?
+Jacob McCracken You don't have to, but you really don't need it. There are still people more than willing to buy that S-AFC if you do remove it, though. I'm not that guy, but I know they're out there.
Cool! I'm running only DSMLink now. But in my stream I don't see the ISC to adjust the BISS screw or the Learned Idle Offset, even when the car is running. Maybe I missed a step...
Jacob McCracken You need to add the ISC items to the "Captured Values" table, and then add the ISC items to the "Displayed Values" list.
Is that a turbo timer under your steering wheel?
Yep! Old Skool.
How long have you been working with cars? You sure know a lot.
Tak Tician I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :\
***** lmao, this reply made me finally hit subscribe even though I was going to anyway. love this channel
***** indeed I am lazy with the subscribe button
You said you ran your maf vacuum to the pvc port. Did you T into the port or reroute the PVC line?
No, the MAF PLUG has the MAP and IAT sensors' ELECTRICAL wiring going through it. Nothing with the vacuum lines. I had to watch the whole video to figure out what you meant. The ECMlink cable plugs into the MAF plug and gives you separate harnesses to go to separate GM sensors. It bridges that gap so that it's plug and play.
Jafromobile I was referring to what you said at 1:10. I ran into a dilemma of where to source my vacuum for the MAP sensor since it's advised to have a dedicated source. Thanks for the reply though. Your videos are awesome. They helped me quite a few times.
+KRG_Royal oh! Gotcha. I didn't tee into it. My MAP sensor does plug right into the PCV breather port on the intake manifold, and I don't have a PCV valve on my car. I have a catch can plumbed into the PCV breather port on the valve cover, and THAT has a vacuum line routed back to the turbo intake. I think the catch can install is in the previous video.
Jafromobile oh ok that's what I figured and that's what I ended up doing too. Thanks again! Which video is the catch can install?
please excuse my ignorance. what is DSM?
Why can't I find the link in the description?
iconone5 lol. What do you mean? Which link? There are 8 of them.
I hope you don't have any problem holes in the future.
Charles Hollow Oh, I've had my share already. Here's to wishing they're all in my past!
Bahaha I have a palm in my talon lol. So far i have kept it period correct tuner. I think the safc2 is the newest thing in there. If I do switch to ecm link will I be abe to still use the safc2 to monitor stuff?
Ben Hannig Oh man, a walk down memory lane... I know what you mean, I still have an old Mac OS 9 g3 iMac with the solid-state logic board and vacuum tube display that I like to fire up for that retro feeling. Funny thing is... it's still 3 years newer than that safc2. :P The Apexi gear is very useful, but if you want an accurate means of monitoring, you should really consider using a wideband o2 instead. With the SAFC2, you'd want to treat it like the MAFT or any other piggyback solution. Keep everything zero'd at stock for 450cc injectors and do all your tuning in ECMlink.
Oh i forgot about the wideband, shoot. Ok thats the newest thing in there hehehe. Im running 550 cc injectors, walbro 155 fuel pump. 3 inch dejon intake with a 3 inch gm maf. A huge sidemount with custom air ducting. Tial bov and waste gate. And some severely ported and polished 14g turbo and intake manifold. It's been a long labor of love. Oh 3 inch exhaust too with a ported 1g non cracked manifold.
Ben Hannig What does that thing run? Inquiring minds want to know!
With a perfect launch 13.9 on 18 lbs. Thats all me aswell. No two step or any sort of launch control. Btw did you know it's really hard to launch an awd car when attempting not to demolish your clutch, and then you do anyway ugh lol. Mainly its a fun street car, I can daily it and it's just fine. 91 white and black btw, resonably clean aswell.
Ben Hannig Launch control would take a half second off that car, easy. Not bad on a 14b, though. My Hyundai is quite a bit lighter and it didn't run much faster than that.
Alright I'm in a bit of a situation Jafro. On one hand I am pretty much set on throwing down the $740 for DSM link and their SD setup. On the other hand I just got an offer for an AEM EMS series 1 for $300. I know the dsm link is much easier to tune with and nowhere near as finicky as the AEM setup. But for the savings I sudden could have is it really worth the grief with harder tuning if you're even familiar with AEM?
+Dave S (Davenia419) This is a subjective question that is entirely open to personal opinion of the public. Everyone else will give you the answer for what's right for THEM. Without experience using both, there's no way another human being can give you an objective answer. The people who have invested time and effort into learning how to use one of them as a solution will all say it's the best. It's part of human nature to have an opinion and vouch for what you know. I made this video just to put out there what I know. They're very different products and I have yet to need to use an AEM EMS.
***** that's a fair answer, and probably the best answer i could get. For what I'm aiming to achieve the ECMTuning package is the way I have been leaning for a very long time. This deal with the AEM EMS just kind of fell into my lap and am frantically trying to make a decision because I just find myself torn between what I know are both good solutions even with having little to no tuning experience. Thanks for the input and I'll be "tubed" in to your next video whenever that may be.
Dave S Even if I remain neutral in my comment, it was an attempt to give both products the respect they deserve. I can't hide my loyalty. Please note that I am not posting a how-to on installing an AEM EMS. I've used ECMlink products since 2006, *and have yet to build something that required a stand-alone EMS*. I'm also many seconds slower than the fastest people who use ECMtuning products. So I haven't even used it all yet. :P
If you know your stuff, there's huge value in that deal that fell in your lap as long as... 1) you need nothing to make it fit your particular car. 2) There are no shop supplies like hoses, clamps, fittings, gaskets, sealants, welding, grinding, plumbing or tools that cost you time or money to adapt it to your car. 3) you know for a fact that everything works 100%. 4) there are people answering your questions, or who have already answered them in the searchable forums.
Understand that if the product causes anything to become problematic over time, that it adds to your cost in the long run. Yes, it is true that people have made thousands of horsepower with the AEM EMS, but they didn't do that with a street-built car. I don't know your particular car, and I can't ultimately tell you how to spend your money... but if you *READ the ECMlink slogan*, and know that there's an archived model-and-product-specific web forum dedicated to the ECMlink solution, and you have a car with a 4g63 in it, then there's a ton of value in the ease of installation and the product support. ECMlink is adaptable, and you can build it out.
In my opinion (from that of an ECMtuning product user)... If your DSM is _usually_ going to run on gas bought from a pump at a gas station (whether it's leaded or un-leaded), then to me, ECMlink is the only right solution (not that ECMlink can't handle the stuff out of the can... it does... You just don't need to re-wire your street car with a standalone EMS to reach the compression and horsepower limitations of those fuels. ECMlink will do that and more, and it's plug-and-play. Run a wire to the clutch switch if you want... but you don't even have to.
Also in my opinion... That's a good deal! I would buy the AEM EMS. I would just never put it on my DSM.
You have a tough decision to make. *OR*, the easy answer is "get both". Get link for the DSM and AEM for the steel-hulled 2JZ-GTE turbo powered nitromethane burning twin-prop fanboat. After all... you gotta have _something_ to take out on the water. I would totally ride in that thing with you, too!
Yeah, I am going to get both. The nice thing about this particular unit is that it IS plug-and-play so no rewiring needed. WIN!! I'm just not as familiar with something as, shall we say, complicated as the AEM software. Just cant pass up on a deal for $200 on a standalone worth over $800 still. Hey any chance of seeing a video on the DSM IAC/ISC system at some point?
Dave S Hmm... never really thought about going in-depth on that one... Probably because most of the parts outside of the ISC and the BISS screw are pointless and unnecessary. I mean, they do _something_, but the average car owner wouldn't know anything was broken if the FIAV failed. Not unless it was spewing coolant. I only have 1 stock DSM left, but it's not even a DSM. It has something wrong with all that stuff, so perhaps it's the perfect candidate? I have some big expensive fish to fry first before I can drag that one back out, though.
The driver for the USB doesn't want to appear
For those of you who has this problem, uninstall the program and restart your computer before running it. Also plug in the USB cable going into your obd2 port beforehand
depends.. DSM is a domesticated manufacturer of select Mitsubishi eclipse, eagle talon and is no longer in business for purchase of products to the direct public. diamond star motors builds vehicles for the Federal government and Treasury department agents and or entities.
please jafrro more dsm link tuning videos
442powerstroke I will make them. My subscribers could teach me more about v3 than I know, and in my opinion that puts me at a disadvantage for teaching the material… but as I develop my tuning ability, so too will I be developing my video content. I'm grateful for your interest in it because it's a great product!
I've had v3 for a year but cant tune open throttle tunes so hoping u can make video of it i have learned so much from u i now got three dsm in the drive way me and my bro always ask each other what would jaf do? Lol
5:21 every darn time.
It hurts when I notice the USB cable is upside down before someone tries to plug it in :P
thundercamel 50/50 chance. Get. It. Wrong. Twice.
***** yes you can be spoiled by link and friend of mine has it and I've had a change to play with it it's a awesome tool and coupled with sd bundle it's even better I admit I'm jelous but when it comes to my car the girlfriend puts me on a Raman noodle budget so I work within my means
Hello!
I'm using RaceRender to overlay data into my onboard videos as this one: th-cam.com/video/CLmE7eyq6-0/w-d-xo.html
RaceRender allows to overlay OBD2 data as well to add gauges as oil temperature, water temperature, throttle position, etc..
So, I would like to add some more information to my videos using ECMLink data...
1) is there any way to log the brake pedal and gear position?
2) Has anyone found a way to export the ECM Link data file into a compatible file with Race Render software?
I'm using ECMLinkV3 version in my Eclipse 2G GST...
Thanks!
I read user agreements too, Some of them start talking about some silly shit like ninjas and shit
do the parts you make out of scratch make the car go faster? lol
123Bosniak No! lol. They just make it easier to service. Cutting zip ties means you have to re-attach them. I prefer bolts, and things that don't move around causing short circuits, broken vacuum lines or generally just looking messy. Usually they just hold down other parts that allow me to go fast.
*****
That's what I was thinkin. Good deal, chief
Swiggity swooty I'm watching Jafro tooby.
no linux install guide? ;__;
7inchexhaust I was using Ubuntu today and kicking myself for it.
***** It's cool, I was mostly joking anyways. I'm sure most linux users would be able to figure it out on their own anyways.
7inchexhaust Oh, no worries, I lol'd... even read it to the person I was on the phone with... I just forgot to tell you about it. :P
COME ON!!!! 15 secs is to much when your playing with cars!
Joe Wallace HURRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How dare you say the trusty pocket logger is a one-way device. It's indeed bidirectional, you can activate solenoids, the fuel, pump, and clear codes if you have forgotten already. HOW DARE YOU SIR INDEED!!!
I humbly repeated what I was told. I wanted to change timing on a car that was pocket logger equipped, and it wasn't actually this car... but its pocket logger owner said that to me. While I own a car that was equipped with it, I have never held it in my hand and used it. I always took those words as bond.
windows 8 faster? ahahhahahahahhaa
30GB (on this hardware) :P It just boots faster. 5 seconds to a useable desktop from OFF.
when do we get to see this awesome pile of used junk do a sweet burnout!!!!!