I decided to give springfield a try and got a 4.5 xdm elite 10mm. I have over 500 rounds through it now, factory ammo and reloads. It has been absolutely reliable, and more accurate than any semi auto I've ever shot. From a sandbag it will hit a 10 inch gong consistently from 100 yards, with an occasional miss. I use an rmr sight for hunting at night. I got a big 200+ pound boar hog with it from about 40 yards. 10mm seems to have plenty power.
I had a range session with my new XDM 10MM 4.5 just yesterday and it was once again flawless. I’ve run around 500 rounds through it with 0 malfuntions, without cleaning it.
My department has had tons of issues with Glock, being 9mm 40 45 357 sig or even 10’mm with the mag releases, rapid fire we have had multiple people accidentally have the mag half loaded fall out, I brought my XDM and everyone fired about 200 rounds out of it in a group of 12 people, we didn’t have a single jam, no magazines accidentally fall out due to hitting the mag release while rapid firing. Super solid gun. I have over 10 Glocks but the XDM for 10MM is best for me.
I've only seen the magazines fall out of glock's from people pressing the magazine release with their support hand. Happened to me once shooting a drill
@@AlaskanBallistics exactly The mag release in gen 4 and 5 is to big IMO for rapid fire assuming you aren’t gripping the gun 100%. The XDM is not big but not tiny.
I have the XDM elite in 9mm with 3.8 and want to buy the 10mm next. I have done 3 NRA standard 250 point shooting tests for various certifications and aced them all easily. The match barrel is wicked accurate and I used Augilla ball ammo. I am a lot quicker on finding my sight picture on follow up shots with the U notch rear. Iv had it for about 3 years and carried it daily at work (armed security) put around 500? Through it no prob and not a single malfunction.
have run springfields for about 15 yrs now. have never had an issue. open sight balloon at 153 yrds with sand hill back stop..insane distance and average 3-4 balloons every 10 rnds with all rounds close proximity..great gun very accurate..no jamming issues to date
I have the XDM Elite 4.5 10mm I put talon sandpaper grips on it. I carry it in a chest holster when I ride my horse in the mountains. I shoot Underwood 220 gr. hardcast and it works great. I really enjoy this pistol.
You need not worry about bumping the mag release when drawing on the springfield. The mag release spring is pretty stout in their pistol line. Ive had horrible issues with glock mag releases being im a lefty but never springfield pistols.
Living in Alaska & betting my life on one pistol while I am out fishing or hunting, it has always been the Glock 20 gen4. As a sidenote, just around the property and In the rural areas. I carry a Glock 29 gen4, both pistols have KKM barrels. EDC in Wasilla/Anchorage it’s a SIG 365X. Just my carry & opinion.
The XD-M in the desert tan color is SO nice looking!!! Even though I don’t like the grip safety either, I think that even that color contrast looks cool too (tan grip and black grip safety).
Love the XD, I think people should keep in mind that with any fire arm all the way down to high pressure air rifles? Ammo is key. Certain guns like Certain ammo more than other ammo. That's key! Great review.
i had a glock 20 gen 4 and i loved it, but i got the springfield XDM Elite 10mm because of the fully supported chamber. i prefer shooting the glock because i shoot it better and its more comfortable to shoot, but the XDM Elite wont blow up.
When it comes to the glock 19/17 style guns. I'm more affected by the grip angle than with the Glock 20. With the 20, I can put on the 2nd largest grip backstrap, and my grip angle is 100% corrected. It feels like a 1911. With the 17/19 models, not so much. So I bought a walther PDP that seems to be the most natural feeling polymer pistol I've shot to date in terms of grip angle & handfit. As well as point ability.
I also don’t like Springfield. That being said, my favorite carry gun is the hellcat pro. My wife has the original hellcat. Both have been 100% reliable. I am now considering the XDM Elite 10mm. I have always been a Glock guy (I have 6 including the g20), but I wouldn’t mind adding that to the XD 10 to the arsenal.
I was introduced to Springfield right when I got into this about a year ago. I have three hellcats two of them pros and two XTM elite 10 mm. I got to admit I love them all. I'm curious why people don't like Springfield I've had nothing but good results but like I said I'm about as green as you can get. Any information to help me same time and money would be appreciated sir
XMD Springfield is by far the best as far as out of the box performace. My S & W 2.0 has been running flawlessly but had to buy aftermarket 24lb recoil spring from wolf and extra strength mag springs from precision springs; for the price the XMD is the better choice.
Xdm Elite are 16 round mags. The indicator on back of mag only goes to 15 but as SA backs, they are 16 round. In fact as others have said, my mags hold 17 although I have yet to try this with my gun to see if it functions flawless with 17. No need for aftermarket barrel on SA. Only thing needed is griptape. I like Glocks but in 10mm I would go SA.
Id take the XD hands down! I have owned an XD and for a polymer gun i actually liked it quite a bit. I despise all things glock. From the first time i shot one to the last. From the goofy grip angle to the repulsive look. But what makes me hate them most is the fan boys. Most of which know little to nothing about firearms and usually can't shoot. The polymer pistols that i prefer over any others are the M&P's. I own a slew of them (although not a 10mm) and theyre all dead reliable, accurate and the ergonomics suit me better than any other that ive shot. I have little doubt that whatever problems S&W are having with the 10mm guns will be resolved and when they are ill have one. Till then, it 1911's, Sig 220 and S&W 1006....
If you plan to shoot full power loads (esp heavy hardcast) you really have to change the barrel. I have personally experienced the factory barrel causing brand new cases to split. There are a lot more 10mm pistols on the market than when I bought mine and I'd think carefully before spending the money to upgrade a Glock (better barrel, metal guide rod, heavier recoil spring, decent sights, etc).
Yup, and it’s time to let bygones be bygones. Get a Springfield for the channel! I worry they are going to move to echelon pattern and I worry it might be a while before they get that right and my guess is they will discontinue the xdm before they get the new echelon 10mm correct. Seems like most gun companies get that change wrong…
I'm a total Springfield or HS produkt fanboy. I've got multiple springfields and those are the only guns that I'll buy the echelon is great but I don't like it more than the XDM elites I don't like the way they gave up the grip safety the loaded chamber indicator the cocked striker indicator basically everything that the XDM has I think they heard too many people bitching and moaning about the grip safety which has been prevalent on a 1911 since the beginning of time and try to appease that crowd I'll stick with my XDM s.
Glock 20 Gen 5 still having issues with the 200-220gr underwood cherry ammo? Seems like it would be a deal breaker if you cannot reliably shoot heavier ammo. I don’t recall the Springfield having such an issue
XDM even though I’ve sold 2 XD’s over the years and don’t have the desire to get another one. I would like to see you do a 10mm 1911 vs. XDM comparison. Springfield Ronin vs. XDM would be interesting (I own a 9mm Ronin).
I absolutely detest the grip on the FN510, but to each their own. Glad you found something that works for you! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours my friend!
My G20 Gen4 can occasionally be weird with hardcast rounds, seems like it depends on the day lol. I don't carry the hardcast in it when im out in the woods anymore, because I don't feel like I can't guarantee its going to feed perfectly every time. What has functioned basically perfectly is the Underwood Xtreme Penetrators, their overall length and shape of projectile just seems to work in my particular G20.
@@AlaskanBallistics thanks, I’ll have to try those out. Not sure if you ever tried out the hardcast rounds made by a small company out of Idaho, “Lost River Ammo Company” the guy makes some really solid stuff and the prices are dirt cheap. I use his .45 Hardcast in my G30 and they feed really well. I believe they ship to AK now. A really good guy overall
Get an XD, much better than a Glock. Also, there are not as many parts to swap out to make it work the way you would like your pistol to shoot as well. Good luck and stay safe!!! 😉😉😉
Watching your and Chuke's videos I got the glock 20 with kkm then I went down the aftermarket guide rod heavier spring weight, that was a mistake. Horribly unreliable. Went back to stock spring and it is reliable.. Then I got the XDM Elite. Better trigger reliable out of the box
@AlaskanBallistics Glock Store titanium 20#. They wouldn't take it back once I figured out the GR was the issue. (Though technically outside of their policy)
@AlaskanBallistics it was crazy. Higher power stuff, nose up ftf all day long. Especially Buffalo Bore. It was OK, but wouldn't place my life on it, with Underwood hardcast
@AlaskanBallistics . True, I do prefer my glock 20. Been thinking about getting the xdm full size my local gun store has a few. 10mm is getting popular here in east Tennessee.
I love my G20 gen 5 it has the Holosun SCS green dot.. that and the G19X are my favorite 2 glocks ever made.. i really prefer the generation after the gen 4 like the 19x and the gen 5's
Stay away from S&W M&P. Too many fail videos are out there, one on my channel too. Like the Glock you have to switch it springs and guide rod and magazine springs for heavier ammunition
@@AlaskanBallistics Thank you very much. Yes, I see all the noise about them. I trust you. Don't trust all of them per se. Watched your videos last night. I have a G20.4 and a G29.4 so I'll keep looking. I can stretch this out longer, if I need to do that. Honestly, I am trying to wrap my head around what exactly the flaws are with the S&W M&P. Springs are not always flaws, at least in my mind. Take the Garand, best battle rifle on the planet, in my opinion. But, put a 30-06 round in that weapon that isn't rated for that service rifle and it may or may not be reliable. Just me thinking out loud.
@donaldmonroe8503 if you really want the m&p, get the longer barrel performance center. Seems to be less, but not zero issues. Also exact springs and fixed are listed in that video's comment section Thank You
OTHER THAN THE GLOCK, WHAT 10MM PISTOLS ALSO USE GLOCK MAGS? IM TRYING TO PIECE TOGETHER A 2 GUN SYSTEM THAT TAKES THE SAME MAGS AND THE SAME ROUNDS. THERE ARE SOME GREAT PCC OUT THERE THAT TAKE GLOCK MAGS BUT IM WAITING FOR OTHER OPTIONS THAN GLOCK PISTOLS.
@AlaskanBallistics Yep, but that's the case with any short barreled firearm. They aren't intended for long-range work. The Elite version of the XDM is a great 10mm carry piece; accurate, easy to handle, functions flawlessly. I bought one when they first came out. Does the job for me.
Great video. Personally id take the G20. My hand rolled PF45 in 10mm has been solid except for the aftermarket pos trigger pin that snapped in half, gun still worked though. I replaced it with a factory pin and it’s been perfect since. I shoot Underwood ammo about 90% of the time so the cheap inferior trigger pin wasn’t up for the task. I’ve been shooting Glocks for 25 years. Their simplicity is unmatched. Great video.
No need to. It's not noticable when shooting. I carried an XD40 Tactical for 10 years as a duty pistol (and IDPA competitions). Never once had any FTF due to the grip safety, and never noticed it when shooting. I dropped it on concrete once while competing, and was glad it had a grip safety! (I added sandpaper grip covers to it soon after!)
I have had nothing but trouble with my gen 5 Glock. It’ll run most range ammo but not one bear load I’ve tried. I’ve ran double tap 200 gr, buffalo bore 220 gr and hsm. It wo t run any of them. I’ve tried tungsten guide rod with 22# and 20# springs. Kkm barrel didn’t run either. Not a suitable bear gun. Do not get one. I’m going to get and xdm elite tomorrow
I owned the g29 and was borrowing the xdm 3.8". So I didn't b see enough advantages to sell my g29 and get a 3.8 xdm. Especially since I can't take the longer magazines of my g40 10mm. For woods carry, I'd get the g40 hands down.
Chuck, I'm here to speak up for the M&P! I originally bought a 9mm m&p and then put an apex trigger and barrel and a few other goodies. I have probably 3000 rds through that gun and I promise I ve had zero malfunctions -so naturally I went back to the well w when I wanted a 10 I left it bone stock and same story to date; zero malfunctions! Now, I grant you that I have a total of only 600 rds through the 10mm but again, not so much as a bobble I'm not even an s&w fan boy, well until now
My m&p 5" 9mm jammed a lot and had many trigger reset failures. Had to send it back. Have you tried full power loads out of the m&p 10mm? Tons of videos, including mine, showing it jamming. I'll never trust my life to an M&P if I can help it.
@@AlaskanBallistics yup, that's what I was trying to ask you the other night during your live cast - I have never shot the extreme penetrators from Underwood, do they drive thru heavy bone and stay straight like buffalo bore dangerous game bullets do. I have shot a lot of good hogs with BB bullets and the one thing I notice on almost every one is 5hat they don't deflect, they just stay on track regardless of what they hit
@AlaskanBallistics I own both I started out with glock 20 And have own multiple springfields 10mm. You can't beat a steel frame with Fully supported lock up and In slide rails that run Across the whole frame. It's a much better shooting firearm. The weight of the p220 handles 10mm better . The srt trigger on the p220 legion Is night and day better than polymer 10s . The only argument you can make against it is price and capacity My suggestion to that is, you get what you pay for ,and shoot better.
@AlaskanBallistics I do agree between the glock 20 g5 and the The Springfield xdm, The springfield is undeniably better and every category. On the springfield I can do without the grip safety though . Between my ownership of both of them. I would buy the springfield again Over the glock.
Not everyone feels the need to fire the most over charged load they can buy, for minimal additional terminal force. You will always have the highest chance of optimal performance using ammo that specs right in the middle of curve for what the gun was actually engineered for. The majority of issues occur with over loaded (gimmicky hunting ammo from dubious companies) or under loaded ammunition (subsonic gimmick ammo for use with a can). Just use good quality average loads, practice with them, and you will be fine. Don't trust your life to gimmicks.
XDM lol "grip zone" .. Whats it 1999? It wasn't a good gun then ..just average heavy gun ... In 2024 we see 2011 now 500$ in 10 mm why would someone buy the xdm?
I decided to give springfield a try and got a 4.5 xdm elite 10mm. I have over 500 rounds through it now, factory ammo and reloads. It has been absolutely reliable, and more accurate than any semi auto I've ever shot. From a sandbag it will hit a 10 inch gong consistently from 100 yards, with an occasional miss. I use an rmr sight for hunting at night. I got a big 200+ pound boar hog with it from about 40 yards. 10mm seems to have plenty power.
Thank You for sharing your experience! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours.
I had a range session with my new XDM 10MM 4.5 just yesterday and it was once again flawless. I’ve run around 500 rounds through it with 0 malfuntions, without cleaning it.
Time to clean and carry it
My department has had tons of issues with Glock, being 9mm 40 45 357 sig or even 10’mm with the mag releases, rapid fire we have had multiple people accidentally have the mag half loaded fall out, I brought my XDM and everyone fired about 200 rounds out of it in a group of 12 people, we didn’t have a single jam, no magazines accidentally fall out due to hitting the mag release while rapid firing. Super solid gun.
I have over 10 Glocks but the XDM for 10MM is best for me.
I've only seen the magazines fall out of glock's from people pressing the magazine release with their support hand. Happened to me once shooting a drill
@@AlaskanBallistics exactly
The mag release in gen 4 and 5 is to big IMO for rapid fire assuming you aren’t gripping the gun 100%. The XDM is not big but not tiny.
@ehxoz6365 but it gets hit when drawing by some people.
Heeey that's Glock "perfection"😀😀.Springfield's all day for me, Ive got 7 different ones .built and reliable as a tank
Man same happened to me I have a did 9mm and I went to range to shoot that then tested the Glock 20 first couple of shots the mag fell out
That XDM was the first gun I ever bought and it has been a reliable beast ever since
Nice! Godspeed and Good hunting to you and yours my friend.
We just talked about the Springfield the other day. Nice to see a vid today.
I've had my xdm since they came out awesome pistol and recoil not bad at all
I have the XDM elite in 9mm with 3.8 and want to buy the 10mm next. I have done 3 NRA standard 250 point shooting tests for various certifications and aced them all easily.
The match barrel is wicked accurate and I used Augilla ball ammo. I am a lot quicker on finding my sight picture on follow up shots with the U notch rear.
Iv had it for about 3 years and carried it daily at work (armed security) put around 500? Through it no prob and not a single malfunction.
You'll enjoy the 3.8" 10mm just as much.
I have both Springfields and I had a gen 4 Glock 20. Both are very nice. I think it’s just personal preference.
I can agree with that
have run springfields for about 15 yrs now. have never had an issue. open sight balloon at 153 yrds with sand hill back stop..insane distance and average 3-4 balloons every 10 rnds with all rounds close proximity..great gun very accurate..no jamming issues to date
Awesome.
I have the XDM Elite 4.5 10mm I put talon sandpaper grips on it. I carry it in a chest holster when I ride my horse in the mountains. I shoot Underwood 220 gr. hardcast and it works great. I really enjoy this pistol.
Awesome. Just wish they'd have the long barrel come out again
You need not worry about bumping the mag release when drawing on the springfield. The mag release spring is pretty stout in their pistol line. Ive had horrible issues with glock mag releases being im a lefty but never springfield pistols.
Good to know
Living in Alaska & betting my life on one pistol while I am out fishing or hunting, it has always been the Glock 20 gen4.
As a sidenote, just around the property and In the rural areas. I carry a Glock 29 gen4, both pistols have KKM barrels. EDC in Wasilla/Anchorage it’s a SIG 365X. Just my carry & opinion.
Nice. I need to get a kkm for my 29. Which I also edc.
Great video. If I’m not mistaken the Springfield has 16 round mags vs 15. At least mine does.
Interesting
You can actually fit 17 in there
@Javisto maybe so but that can screw up the spring in the long run.
The XD-M in the desert tan color is SO nice looking!!! Even though I don’t like the grip safety either, I think that even that color contrast looks cool too (tan grip and black grip safety).
Agreed. The O.D.G. version looks even better
Talon grips on the XD pistols works really well. $20 dollar fix.
Xdm will eat anything and will perform no questions asked
@@fredericknorrisjr yes it will! Wish they still made the 5.25 version
Love the XD, I think people should keep in mind that with any fire arm all the way down to high pressure air rifles?
Ammo is key. Certain guns like Certain ammo more than other ammo.
That's key!
Great review.
Thank You Kindly! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours my friend.
i had a glock 20 gen 4 and i loved it, but i got the springfield XDM Elite 10mm because of the fully supported chamber. i prefer shooting the glock because i shoot it better and its more comfortable to shoot, but the XDM Elite wont blow up.
I put a kkm barrel for the heavy loads!
When it comes to the glock 19/17 style guns. I'm more affected by the grip angle than with the Glock 20. With the 20, I can put on the 2nd largest grip backstrap, and my grip angle is 100% corrected. It feels like a 1911. With the 17/19 models, not so much. So I bought a walther PDP that seems to be the most natural feeling polymer pistol I've shot to date in terms of grip angle & handfit. As well as point ability.
I also don’t like Springfield. That being said, my favorite carry gun is the hellcat pro. My wife has the original hellcat. Both have been 100% reliable. I am now considering the XDM Elite 10mm. I have always been a Glock guy (I have 6 including the g20), but I wouldn’t mind adding that to the XD 10 to the arsenal.
You'll love it
I was introduced to Springfield right when I got into this about a year ago. I have three hellcats two of them pros and two XTM elite 10 mm. I got to admit I love them all. I'm curious why people don't like Springfield I've had nothing but good results but like I said I'm about as green as you can get. Any information to help me same time and money would be appreciated sir
@BrianEthridge-wg6ko People don't like them because they paid for an exception in a liberal law in illinois. And it was very underhanded.
XMD Springfield is by far the best as far as out of the box performace. My S & W 2.0 has been running flawlessly but had to buy aftermarket 24lb recoil spring from wolf and extra strength mag springs from precision springs; for the price the XMD is the better choice.
Agreed. If only the grip on it was comfortable.
My Springfield xd 4.5 10mm used to get the same velocities as my Glock 40 10mm with stock 6” barrel
Interesting. Why doesn't it anymore ?
@@AlaskanBallisticsI traded it in for a Glock 21 Gen 5 I still have the Glock 40 though.
I wanted the Springfield with the mos but it wasn’t in stock so I got the Glock 21. Most accurate handgun I own glad I got it
Xdm Elite are 16 round mags. The indicator on back of mag only goes to 15 but as SA backs, they are 16 round. In fact as others have said, my mags hold 17 although I have yet to try this with my gun to see if it functions flawless with 17. No need for aftermarket barrel on SA. Only thing needed is griptape. I like Glocks but in 10mm I would go SA.
Yeah I sold my g20 and I'm going to get the Springfield XDM Elite eventually
Mines is a 19 mag and it came with the gun it’s not an extended mag
@slattjack723 in 10mm?
Id take the XD hands down! I have owned an XD and for a polymer gun i actually liked it quite a bit. I despise all things glock. From the first time i shot one to the last. From the goofy grip angle to the repulsive look. But what makes me hate them most is the fan boys. Most of which know little to nothing about firearms and usually can't shoot. The polymer pistols that i prefer over any others are the M&P's. I own a slew of them (although not a 10mm) and theyre all dead reliable, accurate and the ergonomics suit me better than any other that ive shot. I have little doubt that whatever problems S&W are having with the 10mm guns will be resolved and when they are ill have one. Till then, it 1911's, Sig 220 and S&W 1006....
To each their own
I’ve had my Xdm elite for about two years now I love it I carry it everywhere
Nice! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours!
Springfield for the win.
Yep!
Chuke is like “who cares if the red dot is sighted in or not…..who cares if it stays on the gun or falls off…..” Lol
He is like that
Thanks for the video. Chamber support issue a deal breaker for the Glock in your opinion?
Not if you don't mind spending the money on a kkm barrel
If you plan to shoot full power loads (esp heavy hardcast) you really have to change the barrel. I have personally experienced the factory barrel causing brand new cases to split. There are a lot more 10mm pistols on the market than when I bought mine and I'd think carefully before spending the money to upgrade a Glock (better barrel, metal guide rod, heavier recoil spring, decent sights, etc).
Chuck: "You're killing me Smalls".
Lol
You can buy a KKM barrel and a tungsten spring rod guide and upgrade the quality of the Glock parts
Yep.
Yup, and it’s time to let bygones be bygones. Get a Springfield for the channel! I worry they are going to move to echelon pattern and I worry it might be a while before they get that right and my guess is they will discontinue the xdm before they get the new echelon 10mm correct. Seems like most gun companies get that change wrong…
Yep
I'm a total Springfield or HS produkt fanboy. I've got multiple springfields and those are the only guns that I'll buy the echelon is great but I don't like it more than the XDM elites I don't like the way they gave up the grip safety the loaded chamber indicator the cocked striker indicator basically everything that the XDM has I think they heard too many people bitching and moaning about the grip safety which has been prevalent on a 1911 since the beginning of time and try to appease that crowd I'll stick with my XDM s.
Glock 20 Gen 5 still having issues with the 200-220gr underwood cherry ammo? Seems like it would be a deal breaker if you cannot reliably shoot heavier ammo. I don’t recall the Springfield having such an issue
The Glock gen5 is not having issues unless really dirty
XDM even though I’ve sold 2 XD’s over the years and don’t have the desire to get another one.
I would like to see you do a 10mm 1911 vs. XDM comparison. Springfield Ronin vs. XDM would be interesting (I own a 9mm Ronin).
Gotta get the funds.
👍👍Good video Chuck….thanks.
Thanks Lance
I always change barrels and recoil springs on my Glocks.
Cool.
Been there,hope I can meet you guys someday, good job ,👏👏👏👍👍👍👍✌️✌️
Thank You Kindly. Godspeed and good hunting
I prefer my G20 over my XDm Elite. It just feels better in my hand. But I like my FN510 better than either of these two.
I absolutely detest the grip on the FN510, but to each their own. Glad you found something that works for you! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours my friend!
Good stuff as usual, thanks for the insight ..
Thank you. Godspeed and good hunting
My G20 Gen4 can occasionally be weird with hardcast rounds, seems like it depends on the day lol. I don't carry the hardcast in it when im out in the woods anymore, because I don't feel like I can't guarantee its going to feed perfectly every time. What has functioned basically perfectly is the Underwood Xtreme Penetrators, their overall length and shape of projectile just seems to work in my particular G20.
They're a good bullet might also try Underwood's 165gr fmj. Flat nose. Not too long like hardcast.
@@AlaskanBallistics thanks, I’ll have to try those out. Not sure if you ever tried out the hardcast rounds made by a small company out of Idaho, “Lost River Ammo Company” the guy makes some really solid stuff and the prices are dirt cheap. I use his .45 Hardcast in my G30 and they feed really well. I believe they ship to AK now. A really good guy overall
Get an XD, much better than a Glock. Also, there are not as many parts to swap out to make it work the way you would like your pistol to shoot as well. Good luck and stay safe!!! 😉😉😉
Thank you
Watching your and Chuke's videos I got the glock 20 with kkm then I went down the aftermarket guide rod heavier spring weight, that was a mistake. Horribly unreliable. Went back to stock spring and it is reliable..
Then I got the XDM Elite. Better trigger reliable out of the box
Which guide rod/spring did you get? Poundage?
@AlaskanBallistics Glock Store titanium 20#. They wouldn't take it back once I figured out the GR was the issue. (Though technically outside of their policy)
@lacrossed55 my ndz 22lb is great except with lightly loaded fmj from ppu or herters
@AlaskanBallistics it was crazy. Higher power stuff, nose up ftf all day long. Especially Buffalo Bore. It was OK, but wouldn't place my life on it, with Underwood hardcast
Yeah the ndz steel will be way better.
Got the xdm elite 10mm 3.8 compact, love it. Great reliable and accurate but I still prefer my glock 20 over all my 10mms
Still loses too much velocity for my taste.
@AlaskanBallistics . True, I do prefer my glock 20. Been thinking about getting the xdm full size my local gun store has a few. 10mm is getting popular here in east Tennessee.
I love my G20 gen 5 it has the Holosun SCS green dot.. that and the G19X are my favorite 2 glocks ever made.. i really prefer the generation after the gen 4 like the 19x and the gen 5's
Thanks for the video. Haven't quite decided but I believe I am going with a S&W. :-) I have the week to decide and appreciate your feedback.
Stay away from S&W M&P. Too many fail videos are out there, one on my channel too. Like the Glock you have to switch it springs and guide rod and magazine springs for heavier ammunition
@@AlaskanBallistics Thank you very much. Yes, I see all the noise about them. I trust you. Don't trust all of them per se. Watched your videos last night. I have a G20.4 and a G29.4 so I'll keep looking. I can stretch this out longer, if I need to do that. Honestly, I am trying to wrap my head around what exactly the flaws are with the S&W M&P. Springs are not always flaws, at least in my mind. Take the Garand, best battle rifle on the planet, in my opinion. But, put a 30-06 round in that weapon that isn't rated for that service rifle and it may or may not be reliable. Just me thinking out loud.
@donaldmonroe8503 if you really want the m&p, get the longer barrel performance center. Seems to be less, but not zero issues. Also exact springs and fixed are listed in that video's comment section
Thank You
@@AlaskanBallistics Thank you very much for your time and advice. Gonna hold off with my purchase.
Honestly I'd just get a stippling job on the g20 and a 5 to 7 inch kkm barrel...
Happy Father's day 💙. Go buy a Springfield 🎉
Lol thanks
Yes Sir Salute 🫡
One of my favorite in my gun collection Springfield Armory 3.8 10mm
That's a fun one for sure.
Great video!!!
Thank You!
@@AlaskanBallistics Yes sir !🔥
OTHER THAN THE GLOCK, WHAT 10MM PISTOLS ALSO USE GLOCK MAGS? IM TRYING TO PIECE TOGETHER A 2 GUN SYSTEM THAT TAKES THE SAME MAGS AND THE SAME ROUNDS. THERE ARE SOME GREAT PCC OUT THERE THAT TAKE GLOCK MAGS BUT IM WAITING FOR OTHER OPTIONS THAN GLOCK PISTOLS.
Cmmg banshee, or Pro2a Tactical (check my Twitter X Feed today @AKBallistics).
Thanks for the video Chuck 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
Thank you David!
My Glock Gen4 never had one issue
Nice. Mine did
I like em both. 😊
Me too
Springfield Elite 3.8 barrel. Holds its own among 10mm competitors in the working man's price point.
Yeah but velocity loss in that barrel. Good for concealed carry
@AlaskanBallistics
Yep, but that's the case with any short barreled firearm. They aren't intended for long-range work.
The Elite version of the XDM is a great 10mm carry piece; accurate, easy to handle, functions flawlessly. I bought one when they first came out. Does the job for me.
See you at the range
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Great video. Personally id take the G20. My hand rolled PF45 in 10mm has been solid except for the aftermarket pos trigger pin that snapped in half, gun still worked though. I replaced it with a factory pin and it’s been perfect since. I shoot Underwood ammo about 90% of the time so the cheap inferior trigger pin wasn’t up for the task. I’ve been shooting Glocks for 25 years. Their simplicity is unmatched. Great video.
Very true 👍
Is there any way to pin the grip safety on the XDM?
I honestly don't know
No need to. It's not noticable when shooting. I carried an XD40 Tactical for 10 years as a duty pistol (and IDPA competitions). Never once had any FTF due to the grip safety, and never noticed it when shooting. I dropped it on concrete once while competing, and was glad it had a grip safety! (I added sandpaper grip covers to it soon after!)
That's what I figured and had been my experience as well.
I have had nothing but trouble with my gen 5 Glock. It’ll run most range ammo but not one bear load I’ve tried. I’ve ran double tap 200 gr, buffalo bore 220 gr and hsm. It wo t run any of them. I’ve tried tungsten guide rod with 22# and 20# springs. Kkm barrel didn’t run either. Not a suitable bear gun. Do not get one. I’m going to get and xdm elite tomorrow
The Glock gen5 I tested ran everything. Have you slow motioned camera yourself to make 100% sure it's not you limp wristing?
Anyone that has owned or shot both which would be good for a edc? I'd like to include the 3.8" xdm elite 10mm also so which 3 would be a good edc
I have a 3.8" vs. Glock 29 video. Either is good. I edc my g29.
@@AlaskanBallistics sweet ill watch that thanks man
@@AlaskanBallistics so out of the 10mm pistol you edc the g29? Is it jus more comfortable for you? Watching that vid right now as well
I owned the g29 and was borrowing the xdm 3.8". So I didn't b see enough advantages to sell my g29 and get a 3.8 xdm. Especially since I can't take the longer magazines of my g40 10mm.
For woods carry, I'd get the g40 hands down.
Chuke calling shots like they are at 1k yards. lol
Lol
Yeah, he’s funny. Seems like a guy I would enjoy hanging out with though.
I have the xdm elite in fde!
Beautiful
Chuck, I'm here to speak up for the M&P! I originally bought a 9mm m&p and then put an apex trigger and barrel and a few other goodies. I have probably 3000 rds through that gun and I promise I ve had zero malfunctions -so naturally I went back to the well w when I wanted a 10
I left it bone stock and same story to date; zero malfunctions! Now, I grant you that I have a total of only 600 rds through the 10mm but again, not so much as a bobble
I'm not even an s&w fan boy, well until now
My m&p 5" 9mm jammed a lot and had many trigger reset failures. Had to send it back.
Have you tried full power loads out of the m&p 10mm? Tons of videos, including mine, showing it jamming. I'll never trust my life to an M&P if I can help it.
@@AlaskanBallistics full power? Yes
Hard cast? No
@ChronicalsofAl well if you don't have the dangerous game in your area for hardcast, I wouldn't either. Hopefully S&W have their stuff figured out.
@@AlaskanBallistics yup, that's what I was trying to ask you the other night during your live cast - I have never shot the extreme penetrators from Underwood, do they drive thru heavy bone and stay straight like buffalo bore dangerous game bullets do. I have shot a lot of good hogs with BB bullets and the one thing I notice on almost every one is 5hat they don't deflect, they just stay on track regardless of what they hit
@ChronicalsofAl in the larger calibers like 44 magnum or higher they don't generally deflect
Get the XDM! I really like mine. I’ve seen Chuke shoot he just shot the target backing with no target. No wonder he’s a horrible shot. 😂
Yep
We Love You Chuke!!😀
Lol don't encourage him too much! 🤪
If you want a true 10 mm semi-auto sig p220 Legion double single action
For the price of 3 of these. But yes good gun
@@AlaskanBallistics buy once cry once.
@MrAntuan25 or buy 3 times the amount of guns for the same reliability, if not better.
@AlaskanBallistics I own both I started out with glock 20 And have own multiple springfields 10mm.
You can't beat a steel frame with Fully supported lock up and In slide rails that run Across the whole frame. It's a much better shooting firearm. The weight of the p220 handles 10mm better .
The srt trigger on the p220 legion Is night and day better than polymer 10s .
The only argument you can make against it is price and capacity
My suggestion to that is, you get what you pay for ,and shoot better.
@AlaskanBallistics I do agree between the glock 20 g5 and the The Springfield xdm, The springfield is undeniably better and every category.
On the springfield I can do without the grip safety though . Between my ownership of both of them. I would buy the springfield again Over the glock.
MY GLOCK GEN 5 BLOW UP WITH HARD CAST 220
Yeah... that's why you out a fully supported chamber barrel in first. Common knowledge for 10mm glock's
Glock for me, thanks.
Fair enough. Thanks!
XDM BEST
My DOT is not sighted in either
Lol been watching chuke too much?
why buy a glock if you you have to change the barrel ,trigger and sights
A fair point
I absolutely hate mettle recoil guid rods there really junky sounding and feeling. Ill take the glock you can change to what you want .
They're also less flex which means more accuracy and longer dwell time.
I'll get the glock. Idc. Grip safeties are terrible with heavy gloves, are just one more thing to screw up.
Not everyone feels the need to fire the most over charged load they can buy, for minimal additional terminal force. You will always have the highest chance of optimal performance using ammo that specs right in the middle of curve for what the gun was actually engineered for. The majority of issues occur with over loaded (gimmicky hunting ammo from dubious companies) or under loaded ammunition (subsonic gimmick ammo for use with a can). Just use good quality average loads, practice with them, and you will be fine. Don't trust your life to gimmicks.
A fair couple of Points! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours my friend.
Chuke is jealous that you hit the target at all.
Truth
Never liked Glock Firearms.
Springfield XDM Elite 10mm All The Way.
Too bad they don't make the longslide anymore
Great video. Your last 3 shots off the bench rest around the 11:38 mark are going over the back stop berm. Be careful.
Thanks
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Thank you
Fn510
Just wish they made that with a better grip
@@AlaskanBallistics like a bglocky grip?
@thebushbunker better stippling.
Plastic guide rod - smh
Seriously
@11:20 it looks like you are shooting over the backstop, firing up at the high target frame from a bench rest.... hope nobody lives back there.
And I thought folks played fast and loose with gun safety in Kentucky. Lol you guys are total mad men.
We were hitting the backstop every time... I don't know you thought you saw. The range officer even checked.
Hate g locks
Sorry you're not enlightened 🤪
Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours.
John Wick would pick Glock over XDM
True.
XDM lol "grip zone" .. Whats it 1999? It wasn't a good gun then ..just average heavy gun ... In 2024 we see 2011 now 500$ in 10 mm why would someone buy the xdm?
Where can you find a 500 dollar 10mm 2011?
I'm still torn between this and the FN
They both have horrible grips to me lol... they both function well.
If CHukes G20 was sighted in correctly would have helped. Both seem to be solid guns but, I'm partial to the glock
Me too
👑 Gen4 Glock20
Ehh mine Jammed a lot more than the gen5
@ insane, I’ve never had issues with mine. I own a few Glock20 Gen4’s and my buddies do too and no issues at all. Might be an Alaska thing lol
@OO7_iam maybe.