Thanks for the review, I put the mk II on my new bike unfortunately two days after I ordered it I took a bad otb and now I’m sitting around in a sling for weeks after reconstructive surgery to my shoulder 😂😂😂
@@bitumen83 I do t think 1mm in stanchion diameter makes a difference. It’s the same adjustments as the FIT4 damper HSC/LSC/HSR/LSR so I’d say it’s an apples to apples comparison
Cane Creek stuff rides well for a short amount of time then needs a full rebuild or warranty replacement, but customer service is terrible. If you ride mellow, Cane Creek is probably fine but if you ride hard, their stuff won't hold up. I went through several shocks in a short amount of time and they wanted to charge me for warranty replacements. I bought a Fox X2 instead of dealing with more warranty hassles and the thing is plush and durable.
Exactly it pot Luck whether they have their own parts in stock, I had a cc rear shock and when it broke and it did often, I would have to wait ages for part to arrive and when they did they didn't pass quality control so the wait would start all over again.....and that was pre-covid
What I don’t like about Cane Creek suspension is that it isn’t easy to get maintenance items like seals, crush washers or foam rings. I prefer to do a lower leg service myself than to wait weeks from a service center.
@@rataflas Yeah man, thats why I like owning Fox stuff, you can pretty much walk into any bike shop and they have service kits and oil available on the shelf. The Manitou stuff I've owned has been surprisingly reliable despite not servicing regularly.
I've ridden 2 seasons with an IL coil on my Instinct without issues and had ridden 2 seasons before that with a smaller IL coil, on a Thunderbolt, again no issues. However, RM stopped offering them as a stock option on some models, so one can speculate as to why that was the case.
Stiffness is relative. You always want flex built in to the fork. Take for instance the new ZEB and Fox 38, both have something like 20% increase in torsional stiffness, but around 2-5% increase in fore-aft stiffness. Too stiff of a fork and your hands and arms will suffer immensely. I've had a Lyrik Ultimate, ZEB Ultimate, Fox Factory 36, HELM MK1 and now a HELM MK2. All of the forks are GREAT. The HELM has some minor proprietary bits, but overall its a fantastic fork for all mountain/trail riding. I would say the HELM MK2 feels most like a Lyrik Ultimate with 2.1 damper. Very very smooth and composed fork.
Idk, tailgate pad + trail debris is a recipe for a wear. It's hard to believe the finish would be any more or less durable than the zillion other forks out there. I guess I don't know the full story, but for the level of adjustability this thing provides I'm gonna take my chances.
Totally different fork. ZEB is made for enduro and freeride, big hits. The HELM is a trail/enduro fork, 35mm stanchions vs 38mm. The HELM's direct compeition is the Lyrik/Pike and Fox 34/36.
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Start dropping videos again please, Trail Peek!
Thanks for the review, I put the mk II on my new bike unfortunately two days after I ordered it I took a bad otb and now I’m sitting around in a sling for weeks after reconstructive surgery to my shoulder 😂😂😂
UGH. that stinks!
I’ve been riding the Marzocchi Z1 150mm of travel on my Kona Honzo ESD and it has been a good fork
that curb test came fast af 😂
Isolated bladder more reliable than open bath? 'Scuuuuuse me?
Love the helm. Rode one against my fox 34 and I’d take the helm all day. Really want a coil version 🤤
Well understandable, helm is 35 mm stanchions and more adjustment...
@@bitumen83 I do t think 1mm in stanchion diameter makes a difference. It’s the same adjustments as the FIT4 damper HSC/LSC/HSR/LSR so I’d say it’s an apples to apples comparison
@@blueJADEDribbon I'm pretty sure Fit4 only has 3pos compression, open mode compression adjust, and LSR
Ya idk y we r still messing around with air Mtb has always followed behind motor cross. The new coils r getting very light too
Is another shared SR Suntour/DVO chassis? Not knocking that, I have a DVO fork myself.
Cane Creek stuff rides well for a short amount of time then needs a full rebuild or warranty replacement, but customer service is terrible. If you ride mellow, Cane Creek is probably fine but if you ride hard, their stuff won't hold up. I went through several shocks in a short amount of time and they wanted to charge me for warranty replacements. I bought a Fox X2 instead of dealing with more warranty hassles and the thing is plush and durable.
Their customer service really is pretty bad
I loved my helm intill it had a warrenty claim 5 months ago and still havnt had it back. Don't think I will buy another. EVER
My warranty was sent out fixed and returned in less than a week.
Exactly it pot Luck whether they have their own parts in stock, I had a cc rear shock and when it broke and it did often, I would have to wait ages for part to arrive and when they did they didn't pass quality control so the wait would start all over again.....and that was pre-covid
Did you go through a shop or warranty it yourself? Usually I get mine back right away if I go through a shop that’s certified cc dealers
@@Wokegooglers through the shop and belive me they got just as frustrated as I did
@@Wokegooglers through jtech suspension
What I don’t like about Cane Creek suspension is that it isn’t easy to get maintenance items like seals, crush washers or foam rings. I prefer to do a lower leg service myself than to wait weeks from a service center.
Same issue I had for Manitou
@@rataflas Yeah man, thats why I like owning Fox stuff, you can pretty much walk into any bike shop and they have service kits and oil available on the shelf.
The Manitou stuff I've owned has been surprisingly reliable despite not servicing regularly.
What about diy service info?
Great review great fork
After using inline coil, I don’t trust cane creek reliability any more
I hade a not so great experience with my inline coil as well. The fork is a different story though. Very nice fork
inline is trash line of CC shocks
I've ridden 2 seasons with an IL coil on my Instinct without issues and had ridden 2 seasons before that with a smaller IL coil, on a Thunderbolt, again no issues. However, RM stopped offering them as a stock option on some models, so one can speculate as to why that was the case.
They raised the price to $1049.99!!! Whhhhyyyy!!??? :(
Randy Marsh reviews the helm
Yeah science!
i wish i have bike like that for my birthday 😔
I swear there is always that one person who says this on a video 😂
Pole
How stiff is it compared to other forks in its class?
Stiffness is relative. You always want flex built in to the fork. Take for instance the new ZEB and Fox 38, both have something like 20% increase in torsional stiffness, but around 2-5% increase in fore-aft stiffness. Too stiff of a fork and your hands and arms will suffer immensely. I've had a Lyrik Ultimate, ZEB Ultimate, Fox Factory 36, HELM MK1 and now a HELM MK2. All of the forks are GREAT. The HELM has some minor proprietary bits, but overall its a fantastic fork for all mountain/trail riding. I would say the HELM MK2 feels most like a Lyrik Ultimate with 2.1 damper. Very very smooth and composed fork.
The finish's durability is really disappointing.
Idk, tailgate pad + trail debris is a recipe for a wear. It's hard to believe the finish would be any more or less durable than the zillion other forks out there.
I guess I don't know the full story, but for the level of adjustability this thing provides I'm gonna take my chances.
Ooooooo!!!
Zeb is better
different category of fork
Totally different fork. ZEB is made for enduro and freeride, big hits. The HELM is a trail/enduro fork, 35mm stanchions vs 38mm. The HELM's direct compeition is the Lyrik/Pike and Fox 34/36.
fox is just better
Not always.