I bought a bike with a Z1 on it, expecting to swap it out with my 38. Rode it once, loved it, two months down the line, I've still not swapped it, and I've put the 38 up for sale 😂 pleasantly surprised, it just works.
yeah i just rode a z1 coil and its surprisingly very good, while a bit heavy its prolly better than the more expensive forks (36, lyrik...). maybe not better than the 38/zeb but thats quite a bit of money saving.
Similar. I sold my X2 factory for the bomber air. No ragrets. I do still have the slightest preference for lyrik over bomber z1, but not enough to matter.
I’m new to high quality FS bikes and am looking at the new Ripmo AF with the Z1 fork. I’ve seen people talk about how it’s so planted and smooth, but not as poppy and heavier than the DVO air fork on the prior Ripmo models. Does this fork still jump well while not being so heavy it start to be a drag? Not sure if I should get the new or old Ripmo. Any input is appreciated!
I Just put 4500km on my 160 Z1 in a yr Excellent Fork the last service with SKF Sesls . I Run 3.5 wt too The Fork HAS NEVER Run so Good 😎 AMAZING . SO now i Have a 170 Z1 Coil 😎 Whistler Saturday 😎 GoodTimes
I love Marzzochi's new Generation. I currently own three of there products. The Legendary Bomber Z1 fork; I absolutely love it. I also have the there Bomber CR rear coil and the new Bomber Air rear shock (on a bike I have up for sale). I loved all three products and I am lucky I work in the industry so I got them at discount. To put simply, I rode fox, I rode Rock shox Ultimate, I rode DVO, cane creak and even Ohlins....they are all great but for my Riding style Marzzochi Is the brand I'm sold too. If your a hard hitting weekend shreader who wants no fuss and all ride....its Bomber or nothing.
I feel like marzocchi has always made suspension and forks for people that jump everything. The open bath zs and dropoff forks were amazing for their time and alot of them still feel good to this day
I've been running the Z1 fork (160 travel) & Bomber Air shock (210x52.5) for the last 4 months on my gen two levo. Gotta be honest, my levo's never felt better (and I've ran premium Fox & Rockshox suspension on this bike). I think the take away feature (for me) regarding the Marzocchi suspension is that they cater for the heavier rider 'or the heavy-handed rider' who just wants to ride without compromising on time spent dialing in suspension and not achieving the same result in terms of progression, compared to a lighter rider (even after maxing out volume spacers or tokens). Great vid Drew 👍🏿
I have two identical Ripmo AFs, one with a DVO Onyx at 170 for myself, and another with a Z1 at 170 for my son. The Onyx is great, once you have everything set up right. The Z1 is so much easier to dial in because there's not much to set up. Less if more. It's just more fun.
I just built a new ride with a Manitou Mezzer Expert. After 4 rides, the simplicity of a fork without all the bells and whistles is a nice change. They just work.
Considering Marzocchi are owned by Fox , it’s no surprise they offer good performance vrs the cost . My current Scott strike eride 930 has Marzocchi and Iv been impressed vrs my fox suspension on my outgoing bike
32, 34, 36, 38 ... volume spacers... Marzocchi treating riders like recreational dirt riders - set it and for get it is more fun that you know! I've been messing with forks since Judy SL #1 - remember elastomer springs? hahahaha! Hell I'm still running a 2008 Roco tst2 AIR and Bomber 55 air with TST - are they perfect ? no but I get them to do what I need after a few hacks. This came in time seeing how well over $2,000 just for forks and shock is crazy for a avg rider. Over kill and not needed. I'm surprised there aren't more aftermarket fork kits for better conversions, like better speed sensitive valving that actuality works. But what do I know? Everyone what to be a racer !
What is it like compared to the Lyric and Zeb? The Select models have simple adjustments and are in the same price point as the Marz, and probably lighter. I always rode Fox, but I am a Rock Shox convert now.
Should I get a z1 air for a banshee paradox hardtail. The prices are too darn good on jensonusa page. I am intrigued by the price and many years ago we use to ride marzocchi. Or should I just get something better
Great forks. Until the bushings fail prematurely, which has happened with both my Marzocchi and Fox 36 Rhythm forks sub-700 miles. Both warrantied, but I don’t have much faith in this version of the GRIP damper.
I dislike my z2. I disliked the fox 36 for the same reason. They harsh. Removing Volume spacers helps a little. The hsc and lsc on my fox had to be adjusted every time the temperatures changed 10 degrees. My z2 hates cold weather. The z1 coil is tempting but at 700$ it’s crossed in to the non budget range. The lyric I replaced my z2 with has been much more compliant and supple and predictable. The DVO onyx I replaced my 36 with is absolutely amazing. I have no gripes with the fox rear shocks but their forks are starting to seem dated. And the idea of “Budget” is a little out of range for most riders to just upgrade. 90% of riders stick with their OEM forks until they buy a new bike.
this guy! Nailed it! Remember a dream build was under $3,000? those days are gone! I quit being a mechanic back in 2000 because of the "Retail" push and it's only gotten worse.
Let me get this straight. If I want a set-and-forget fork, with all benefits of Fox availability, and durability and ownership being most important, this is THE fork ? Thinking about a 150mm as upgrade. Let's face it. Too weighty and too amateur to being bothered about the fiddley bits and small weight differences to Fox, for the few rides I get... 😅
@@425flex I run the bomber coil and the z1 170mm air on my focus jam2 emtb, I ride it hard as well and the forks hold up amazing but do require some volume tokens. I prefer the bomber set up over my premium rockrock set up that's on my commencal clash I'm even considering getting bomber z1 for the clash as it's such a simple process to dial in.
@@TheLoamWolf for me it’s little pigs bbq. 1st place I ever had bbq as a kid. The place hast changed in something like 50 years. Simple menu done right. I’ve worked @ Buxton and 12 bones. But always eat here. Buxton has gotten to snobby, and it’s gone to their head. 12 bones is inconsistent. And Luella’s is a very VERY close 2nd to little pigs. It’s all about the Q their.
I bought a bike with a Z1 on it, expecting to swap it out with my 38. Rode it once, loved it, two months down the line, I've still not swapped it, and I've put the 38 up for sale 😂 pleasantly surprised, it just works.
yeah i just rode a z1 coil and its surprisingly very good, while a bit heavy its prolly better than the more expensive forks (36, lyrik...). maybe not better than the 38/zeb but thats quite a bit of money saving.
Similar. I sold my X2 factory for the bomber air. No ragrets. I do still have the slightest preference for lyrik over bomber z1, but not enough to matter.
I’m new to high quality FS bikes and am looking at the new Ripmo AF with the Z1 fork. I’ve seen people talk about how it’s so planted and smooth, but not as poppy and heavier than the DVO air fork on the prior Ripmo models. Does this fork still jump well while not being so heavy it start to be a drag? Not sure if I should get the new or old Ripmo. Any input is appreciated!
I Just put 4500km on my 160 Z1 in a yr Excellent Fork the last service with SKF Sesls . I Run 3.5 wt too The Fork HAS NEVER Run so Good 😎 AMAZING . SO now i Have a 170 Z1 Coil 😎 Whistler Saturday 😎 GoodTimes
I love Marzzochi's new Generation. I currently own three of there products. The Legendary Bomber Z1 fork; I absolutely love it. I also have the there Bomber CR rear coil and the new Bomber Air rear shock (on a bike I have up for sale). I loved all three products and I am lucky I work in the industry so I got them at discount. To put simply, I rode fox, I rode Rock shox Ultimate, I rode DVO, cane creak and even Ohlins....they are all great but for my Riding style Marzzochi Is the brand I'm sold too. If your a hard hitting weekend shreader who wants no fuss and all ride....its Bomber or nothing.
I feel like marzocchi has always made suspension and forks for people that jump everything. The open bath zs and dropoff forks were amazing for their time and alot of them still feel good to this day
I've been running the Z1 fork (160 travel) & Bomber Air shock (210x52.5) for the last 4 months on my gen two levo. Gotta be honest, my levo's never felt better (and I've ran premium Fox & Rockshox suspension on this bike). I think the take away feature (for me) regarding the Marzocchi suspension is that they cater for the heavier rider 'or the heavy-handed rider' who just wants to ride without compromising on time spent dialing in suspension and not achieving the same result in terms of progression, compared to a lighter rider (even after maxing out volume spacers or tokens).
Great vid Drew 👍🏿
I have two identical Ripmo AFs, one with a DVO Onyx at 170 for myself, and another with a Z1 at 170 for my son. The Onyx is great, once you have everything set up right. The Z1 is so much easier to dial in because there's not much to set up. Less if more. It's just more fun.
I just built a new ride with a Manitou Mezzer Expert. After 4 rides, the simplicity of a fork without all the bells and whistles is a nice change. They just work.
The Z1 price performance is exceptionally great and the set it and forget it for more miles with smiles alone is enough for someone to get it
Simplicity is a great reason to get this for a more casual rider like me
Just picked up the YT Jeffsy Uncaged 13 with these component. I’m new and was looking for something I could learn and grown into skill wise.
Considering Marzocchi are owned by Fox , it’s no surprise they offer good performance vrs the cost . My current Scott strike eride 930 has Marzocchi and Iv been impressed vrs my fox suspension on my outgoing bike
I love how Marzocchi is part of one of the big two
32, 34, 36, 38 ... volume spacers... Marzocchi treating riders like recreational dirt riders - set it and for get it is more fun that you know! I've been messing with forks since Judy SL #1 - remember elastomer springs? hahahaha! Hell I'm still running a 2008 Roco tst2 AIR and Bomber 55 air with TST - are they perfect ? no but I get them to do what I need after a few hacks. This came in time seeing how well over $2,000 just for forks and shock is crazy for a avg rider. Over kill and not needed. I'm surprised there aren't more aftermarket fork kits for better conversions, like better speed sensitive valving that actuality works. But what do I know? Everyone what to be a racer !
Saving up for a Z1 so I can upgrade my hardtail :)
Jenson has em at half off rn
What is it like compared to the Lyric and Zeb? The Select models have simple adjustments and are in the same price point as the Marz, and probably lighter. I always rode Fox, but I am a Rock Shox convert now.
Would love to see a review on the Bomber CR coil shock and Fox DHX vs DHX2
Probably good suspension from Marzocchi. But it's a shame it costs more than Ultimate level Rockshox in EU.
I love the Z1 coil on my firebird.
Since these z1 forks don’t have bleed ports should I be concerned about access air pressure ?
They're both 20% off right now very tempted to scoop them up.
Marz coil is the best fork out there. Most buttery.
So is the Z1 comparable to Fox's Performance line with the regular GRIP damper? Is it the same?
Z1 is fox 36 rhythm. Heavier, air chamber size different, GRIP damper is not indexed
Should I get a z1 air for a banshee paradox hardtail. The prices are too darn good on jensonusa page. I am intrigued by the price and many years ago we use to ride marzocchi. Or should I just get something better
Go for it!
This fork is on my wishlist for the holidays - I want to replace my 22 Stumpjumper Alloy’s RS 35 with this in 150mm. Good choice?
Yes very.
I have 36 rhythm and float x performance😂 basically the same thing
The shock is virtually identical for sure
Same - they're a great pairing :)
You can get a gen 2 Zeb for this price tho.
I Have A 160 Z1 On My CF Warden And Its Awesome Have 1000km On It . It's A 60kmh to 100kmh Fork I Ride Vancouver 😎
Now Running Z1 170 Coil and A CC IL Coil 450/550 😎 12% F/R 😁 Whistler Saturday
What's the difference between Z1 and Z2? Thanks!
z1 = fox 36 z2 = fox 34
Been wanting to make this upgrade, and the fork is on sale right now but I still can’t afford it…😢
Hope your having a great Thanksgiving
This review came at the perfect time. Going to grab a Z1 and Air shock for my Stumpy while they are 20% off. Excellent review!!!
can you do a fork comparisson with mazocchi, sr santour, x fusion etc?
Not a bad idea! We really like SR products as well so that’d be a fun project.
@@TheLoamWolf I really want to try a sr santour fork one day
Great forks. Until the bushings fail prematurely, which has happened with both my Marzocchi and Fox 36 Rhythm forks sub-700 miles. Both warrantied, but I don’t have much faith in this version of the GRIP damper.
I see you rocking the Luella's BBQ shirt from Asheville. I live 5 minutes from there. Great food 👍
Heck yeah it is. One of my favorite parts of traveling is trying new food, especially BBQ!
man i need to put my lyrik in the trash. had a 55 rc3 evo on my last bike and this fork did everything better than the lyrik.
I dislike my z2. I disliked the fox 36 for the same reason. They harsh. Removing Volume spacers helps a little. The hsc and lsc on my fox had to be adjusted every time the temperatures changed 10 degrees. My z2 hates cold weather. The z1 coil is tempting but at 700$ it’s crossed in to the non budget range. The lyric I replaced my z2 with has been much more compliant and supple and predictable. The DVO onyx I replaced my 36 with is absolutely amazing. I have no gripes with the fox rear shocks but their forks are starting to seem dated. And the idea of “Budget” is a little out of range for most riders to just upgrade. 90% of riders stick with their OEM forks until they buy a new bike.
this guy! Nailed it! Remember a dream build was under $3,000? those days are gone! I quit being a mechanic back in 2000 because of the "Retail" push and it's only gotten worse.
Did you ever try the Z1? And also what did you think was harsh about the performance of the fork?
Let me get this straight.
If I want a set-and-forget fork, with all benefits of Fox availability, and durability and ownership being most important, this is THE fork ?
Thinking about a 150mm as upgrade. Let's face it. Too weighty and too amateur to being bothered about the fiddley bits and small weight differences to Fox, for the few rides I get... 😅
Is the marzocchi bomber air recommended on full size emtb? I have a hard time believing that it’s any different than a float x.
More specifically has anyone run a marzocchi bomber air on their full size emtb? How do you like it?
@@425flex I run the bomber coil and the z1 170mm air on my focus jam2 emtb, I ride it hard as well and the forks hold up amazing but do require some volume tokens. I prefer the bomber set up over my premium rockrock set up that's on my commencal clash I'm even considering getting bomber z1 for the clash as it's such a simple process to dial in.
@@425flexgot one on my transition Relay. It’s great
Way cool, super expensive brand compared to bargain brand. Score easy to adjust, easy to maintain.
"Alternative to the big two companies"
"Marzocchi is owned by Fox"
😂 Okay
Nice shirt. 2nd best bbq in town.
Dying to know what’s the first!!
@@TheLoamWolf for me it’s little pigs bbq. 1st place I ever had bbq as a kid. The place hast changed in something like 50 years. Simple menu done right. I’ve worked @ Buxton and 12 bones. But always eat here. Buxton has gotten to snobby, and it’s gone to their head. 12 bones is inconsistent. And Luella’s is a very VERY close 2nd to little pigs. It’s all about the Q their.