I wish Bird Detection AF was made available in the em1 mark iii. I don’t know if there is a limitation in the camera but it would certainly be a great feature.
I think the press release mentioned the dual CPUs on the M1X were required to run the bird eye AF. The single CPU on the EM1v3 is supposedly underpowered
I started my stills career using sports Canon ‘big whites’ FD lenses, so manual focussing is second nature to me. I have now been working as a cameraman in Swedish broadcast specialising in sports and events for over thirty years where we use those huge and extremely heavy Canon and Fuji box lenses that can cost up to and around two million Swedish Kronors. All true broadcast lenses are only manual focussing for one main reason and that is that when shooting live we cannot have a focussing system that decides to do its own thing. We have had autofocus prototypes from Canon and Fuji in broadcast over fifteen years ago that autofocus capability wise were around where Panasonic are today, that the industry tried but ultimately rejected, so even though these lovely small mirrorless cameras are so sophisticated in their autofocus, if one is an aspiring cinematographer or videographer that wants to work on high end productions in cinema or broadcast, it is essential to learn how to manually focus to get work, there will be no autofocus equipment to help you get the shot! Manual is the cake, autofocus is the icing on the top!🙏🏾
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the human eye AF for EM1MK2 which they promised in their marketing materials. Currently after many firmware updates it's still the tip of the nose detection system, pretty much useless. When I was choosing the M43 system I hesitated between Sony APSC and M43, now I see that if I'd buy into Sony I already would have the eye AF. Olympus if you read this please finally deliver!
Hey Krzysztof. Regarding your problem, probably you are using caf + tracking instead caf, as Peter wrote. Mimii detects the eye, but from a closer distance. Same thing with the face. It's fine for head shots. Unfortunately, there is no chance for the same eye detection as in m1miii. I sold m1x and bought m1miii because of the eye detection and face selection mode.I still have m1mii and the difference in eye and face detection between mii and miii is huge. It's worth noting that eye detection and afc is much more effective with Olympus lenses. For example, sigma 56 1.4 is is not as good as oly 45 1.2(especially in low light). Difference between sigma 16mm and oly 17mm1.2 is even bigger.
@@kamilrakowski23 thank you, good to know that on EM1mk3 it finally works. I have a feeling that it's rather business decision rather than technical, but who knows, maybe that the second processor was necessary to improve the performance of eye AF
@@ForsgardPeter Mkii not equal Mkiii !!! I have had no problem with the Eye detection with my E-M1 MKIII. Have you chosen all the focusing points and AF-C + TR? In the body of the E-M1Mkiii, in the current FW 1.3 there is a fully functional Ai face detection (face, left eye, right eye) and it is not even necessary to activate all focus points, the middle sigle is enough. For me, it even works through the reduction of VILTROX to Sigma S 120-300 / 2.8 ... Otherwise, AF itself is worth the shit, because it goes through the entire range, evaluates and only then when it calculates what was the sharpest, it returns to the sharpest, but works unreliable. But I can live with that, I help myself with manual AF with the magnifying glass function.
Fuji cameras have this focusing distance scale in every model since launch (X-E1), so processing power is not an issue here. Pity that Olympus made purely marketing decision not to include it in E-M1 mark II and E-M5 mark III.
The bird update should also be offered to em1iii owners. Or it should maybe offered to those who purchase the 100-400 or the 150-400? Some people want a relatively more compact camera which is the main reason they went for m43
Peter, I know I am very late to this party but just today took delivery of my new OMD EM1 MK2 having jumped ship from Fuji. The camera in my opinion is fabulous but I do miss the focal distance scale that Fuji uses which I found very useful for my landscape photography. I think Olympus have been a bit stingy not incorporating this for the Mk2 upgrade. Looks like I will be digging out my hyperfocal distance chart again. 😞
As much as I'm happy to see the new firmware updates, especially the bird recognition AF, I'm disappointed not seeing Starry Sky AF being added to the M1X.
There should have been the facial recognition upgrade that was included with the EM1 Mark III for the EM1-X as well. The X is supposed to be the flagship, after all.
Hey Peter! Thanks for all the details regarding the update. I must say I am a little underwhelmed. I recently bought the E-M1 III and it does not get an animal detect autofocus when my G9 that’s already a few years old has it (and not just birds!). The other updates are certainly welcome though. Either Olympus is intentionally keeping these away from the M1 III or the G9 has a more modern CPU... Unfortunately I think it’s the former.
I Don’t like the bird detection I. My G9 and usually turn it off. If there is a busy background the focus starts hunting around. Birds in flight I prefer a cluster focus area. Maybe they first want to test it on the M1X and if feedback is good they might implement it on other models.
Exactly my experience, I also bought an E-M1-Mk3 for game. You are not deceived yourself in this. Otherwise, I like ideas from Olympus, it can do little miracles.
@@ForsgardPeter Yes from my readying I too have deemed that the new functionality will not be coming to the EM1 mk3. I find this a real shame I swapped from EOS DSLR system to Olympus late last year for a few reasons weight being of course a major factor but also the great pro lenses. I chose the EM1 mk3 from reading a lot of material and in most articles the same thing was mentioned it is basically a lighter EM1x with same functionality. As I mainly shoot wildlife and especially birds I am now disappointed in my choice as if I had known the EM1x was going to get things like bird priority AF before I bought the mk3 I wouldnt have purchased the mk3 and instead got the EM1x. I will now have to decide whether to purchase the 1x or go back to Canon and get an R5 as I still have my L series EF lenses.
@@johnwhiteaway2795 Same here. Walked away from my Canon rigs that's ive shot with for decades to switch to Olympus;. Reason I went EM1 Mark III instead of the M1X was the same as what you stated.
If the EM1X can use the new bird autofocus while using Pro-capture, I don't see why the EM1 mark III is not capable of using this feature in situations where you don't double up process heavy features. I bought the EM1 mark III as a companion to my EM1 mark II because of it apparent 2X faster processor, to allow for features such as bird autofocus... I am happy for EM1X owners, but disappointed in Olympus for not pushing this feature in their other flagship camera.
The stand out feature for me is the ProRes RAW update. This is not only great for Olympus users but probably more important for Panasonic GH5/GH5s users. Here is my reasoning: many MFT videographers prefer the Panasonic over Oly for its full featured video toolset and some like me might have invested in Oly pro lenses to shoot manually as the Panasonic has unreliable autofocus. The only GH5 upgrade path to get any better video quality or look, is to go full frame or wait for a GH6. However now that Oly now has ProRes RAW with a Ninja V (which many serious GH5 owners already own for getting ProRes HQ and 4K60) this now gives us an upgrade path where we not only get RAW but we can now use our native Oly Pro lenses on the bodies they were made for. The video toolset is now provided by the Ninja and we Panasonic owners get to experience Oly’s image stabilisation. To top it all off we get a better stills feature set! Happy days!😀🙏🏾
ProRes RAW reads pixels 1:1 so if the resolution is 4K this means 1.35x crop. If it read the whole sensor it could do 6K anamorphic but perhaps it is too hard on the camera. I have a GH5 EM1MKII and G9 and considering the maturity of ProRes RAW if I wanted to get it I would buy a Zcam E2
Thanks for this Peter. In your upcoming video about the new bird tracking, can you make any predictions about whether this feature will be added to the EM1-mark iii in the future? I would be thrilled if that was added. I just landed a used 300 mm f4 and had it out for my first birding trip this weekend. It was great, but CF with bird tracking would be really a great upgrade, since the existing tracking isn't really up to the challenge of birds in flight.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks for the reply Peter, I was afraid of that. I saw a possible answer in the comment section of another FB post.The issue is that unlike E-M1X the E-M1-miii doesn't have dual processors and as of now that kind of computational power is needed in order to pull off subject tracking. Oh well, in the mean time I'll keep trying to improve my technique!
Even the title of this nice video is fake, like OLYMPUS itself. I'm sorry because I bought the em1 Mark iii some time ago and I wanted to support the brand in its financial difficulties. I hoped that the Ai for animal and bird eye recognition would include, but it didn't happen, I'm disappointed. This was probably a fatal mistake of OLYMPUS in not putting these Ai features into its cameras, so the brand is dying.
MF is important for me, but I don’t think that the new display could help me very much. I would appreciate a depth of field indication such as some LUMIX cameras have it. Anyway, both does not work with full manual lenses.
It would’ve been nice to get bird recognition on the EM1 MKIII as well but I’m still happy to see a few of the other upgrades; especially the focus indicator because I do use manual focus quite frequently. Still learning the ins and outs of my new EM1 MKIII and EM5 MKIII so I have plenty on my plate for now already. Even without bird recognition. Now I have to watch your video on the new 150-400 lens to see if I can talk myself into it with your help!😉📷❤️📷
Really looking forward to try the bird recognition AF. ProRes Raw is a great thing too. Maybe it's time to sell my GH5s and starting using the EM1-X for video too. It has a lot better Video-AF than the Panasonic camera.
@@ForsgardPeter Now we see that Olympus wanted to anger his supporters in the end. But to the point. In my opinion, Olympus, with its advanced Ai functions with AF, could penetrate, through difficult times and into its (half as cheap) M1 Mkiii flagships, including FW recognition of objects and faces of people, animals and birds. He would withdraw on his side the owners of leading photo brands Canon and Nikon, who are attracted to these features, but in their brands they would pay twice as much for them. I had an OLYMPUS E-500 years ago, then I switched to NIKON and after three bodies from Nikon I tried to return to the OLYMPUS E1 Mkiii again. I was fascinated by the wisdom and speed of this camera compared to the DSLR and the SONY a7R even at a fractional price. It would be a great pity that OLYMPUS with its Ai potential perished only because the finished FW did not expand to its brands for short-sighted marketing reasons ... Teraz vidíme, že Olympus si chcel na záver rozhnevať svojich priaznivcov. Ale k veci. Podľa môjho názoru, by sa Olympus svvojímy pokrokovými Ai funkciami s AF mohol prebrodiť, cez ťažké časy a do svojich (o polovicu lacnejších) vlajkových lodí M1 Mkiii včítane, zapracovať FW rozpoznávania objektov a tvári ľudí, zvierat a vtákov. Stiahol by na svoju stranu majiteľov popredných foto značiek Canon a Nikon, ktorých lákajú tieto funkcie, ale v ich značkách by za ne zaplatili dvojnásobok. Ja som mal pred rokmi OLYMPUS E-500, potom som prešiel na NIKON a po troch telách od Nikonu som opäť skúsil sa vrátiť do OLYMPUSU E1 Mkiii. Fascinovala ma múdrosť a rýchlosť tohoto fotoaparátu oproti DSLR a voči SONY a7R iv zlomková cena. Bola by veľká škoda, aby OLYMPUS so svojím Ai potenciálom zahynul len preto, že hotový FW nerozšíril na svoje značky z krátkozrakých marketingových dôvodov...
How do you select which bird it focuses on when there are more than one? I get 3 white boxes for 3 birds and neither dial, joystick or touch screen lets me select one. Bird detection does not work in video mode, which is disappointing.
I'm a little frustrated that features like "Subject detection" is not available on the E-M1 III since it's the newest model... And I don't really understand why. I mean it's still for professional use right? Anyway, you mentioned the MF-clutch: I've got four Olympus lenses and only one (the 40-150 Pro) has the clutch. I've assigned the AEL/AFL switch for AF/MF control which works pretty good for me
I don't think it's camera differentiation / marketing / business decision. The E-M1X is the only camera with two TruePic processors. Something that is needed, according to Olympus, to make the Subject AI Autofocus possible. The E-M1's only have a single TruePic processor.
I own an EM1mk2, m.zuiko; 25/1.8, 45/1.8, 75/1.8, 60/2.8macro, 12-40/2.8Pro, 40-150/2.8Pro ... I can't say how disappointed I am. The least I expected was a significant improvement in AF in all aspects. It would not be polite to say what I think of Olympus now
Regarding the MF upgrades. I have the M1.2 and M1.3. I use Focus peaking when using MF so I am not sure how much this new feature will help. I'll have to wait and see. Keep up the great vlogs Peter
I recently switched to Olympus at Canon and purchased the EM-10 Mark 2 and Sigma 19mm 2.8 DN lens. There are no focus marks on the Sigma lens and unfortunately there are no indicators for focus in the camera settings either. I noticed this when i try to took star shot and I was quite surprised. When focusing manually, I use zoom, but I would be much happier if there was a focus indicator.
I have EM1ii & iii. I don’t have the lenses catered for. I don’t shoot video. I do use manual focussing quite a lot - with peaking. So nothing for me for my EM1ii. But I will update my EM1iii and try the Focus Indicator Display.
Yes, I use manual focus especially with the pro lenses. So the update ist sensefull- Wish Olympus had a "Focus Guide" like Canon in the newer ones like R6/R5- It is a very simple help to know when the focus is 100% on the subject. Perhaps some time it will be possible to have soemthing similiar with Olympus.
Dear Peter, I need your honest feedback, whether to buy Olympus EM1 Mark III at present or better still wait until Olympus under the new Owner, might develop a possible better processor with higher MP facility and better features. Your feedback is highly appreciated.
I find the auto focus reliable. For chance close ups , hand held , I go auto focus. For quick snaps - auto focus . Portraiture ? well historically -auto focus. Composition being to me more important .
Why is there no Bird detection for my em1M3? That´s the only point of interest for me in that Firmware Update. But you maybe right in thinking this may not work with only one CPU inside. I hope the new owner will practice the firmware updates well, too! And yes, I use very often manual focusing, but always with my old Lenses wich have no autofocus and no way to send Information to the camera, so these focus distance feature may not work with them. At the end of the day there ist no new feature for my use.
I don't use manual focusing all that often because my 62-year-old eyes aren't as good as they used to be. But, I use manual focusing most of the time for static macro subjects at my desk, with the camera tethered to the computer, and sometimes when a very busy scene confuses the AF (more common with my E-M1.2 than with E-M1.3). I recently took my E-M1.3 to the local zoo for the first time along with the 40-150 f/2.8 PRO and both teleconverters. I was very surprised to see that the E-M1.3 occasionally recognized and focused on bird eyes. However, it wasn't consistent or persistent like with people. But, it indicates to me that bird recognition might be within reach of the E-M1.3....if only Oly tried. :-) Even so, that's still better than the E-M1.2, which never recognized and focused on bird eyes
I’ve always liked quirky Olympus though never owning one. However as larger formats dominate low light performance and wide ISO range, I’ve simply never been able to commit to micro 4/3 as much as I prefer the bomb-proof build and ergonomics of the pro Oly.
As an E-M1 II user I would have loved the focus indicator display for lenses without manual clutches, would make life a lot easier! Not sure why Olympus didn't bother with that
I've a pair of tawny owls in the back of my garden. I only see them when there's very little light. Olympus keep offering solutions to things that I don't even realise are hindering my photography. Manual telephoto focussing has been a pain initially for me without knowing intuitively which way I'm focussing. This will help. Bravo Olympus.
Wake me up when Olympus can record RAW (ideally BRAW because of the file size) via USB-C to any hard drive directly in that format instead of via HDMI to a Ninja. I love MFT but Olympus and Panasonic are not competitive with Blackmagic. I'd love an Olympus body that could do BRAW internally or straight to a Samsung SSD via USB-C. That would be great. Until that time I'm not buying another Olympus camera body.
Nice video Peter, thank you! I use MF quite a bit, in fact that is a big reason to have the Pro lenses, omitting this feature from other bodies with this firmware update is a Bad Business decision IMHO. It is also a Bad Business decision to not give the EM1 MKiii the various detections especially for Birds. The whole reason for me to use MFT and Olympus in particular is for small size. I really do not want an EM1x, it is bigger than I want. I love the size of the EM1 and that is the body that I want to use. Not giving me the Bird detection kind of makes me consider the Sony A9 series which has incredible AF abilities. Olympus or now JIP needs to understand their customers. I have multiple Olympus bodies but I certainly do not want to own ALL of their bodies, it is just not practical or really feasible. I like the size of the EM1 and EM5 series, they are great for travel and walking. The EM1 MKiii is a top of the line body and should have as many capabilities as possible within the processing limits. Leaving features out does differentiate but it also gives me pause when buying.
I use manual focus when I am taking photos with the lens wide open for a very narrow depth of field... that means I NEED to be sure I am focused in the right place. Good info here Peter, thanks for sharing!!!
Nice FW review video. I do use MF maybe 25% of the time. The new MF bar scale is nice, but I would like to see show DOF or give the actual distance as a number. I was surprise the E-M1X did not get the new Face Detection that is in the EM1.3.
I have the OMD EM1 MK2 Reading the specs on the latest Firmware I am unlikely to use the two features listed for the MK2, my question is there any advantage updating my camera.
I saw they added a new camera also. The EM10IIIS which is an EM10III with silent shooting and another art mode. Wonder if this is a JIP idea to recycle old stuff and make a quick profit on it?
Yes they did. That was actually launched in August. Back then it was only for Chinese and Thailand markets. Apparently it is now for every market. JIP/OM Digital Solutions takes over 1.1.2021 and do not think this is something that JIP has decided.
I mostly only do mf for astrophotography, but sometimes also to make sure I get focus on the items behind enemy lines (grass, fence and such) 😊 the new focus distance thing, is seen in a lot of cheap cameras. So yeah, why only the 2 top models 🤔
As an E-M1 Mark II owner I'm not excited about this firmware upgrade very much, as I'm not much of a video shooter. Nevertheless, if Olympus were to ask me what video-related firmware update I'd like to see, I'd have to say direct-to-PC storage of video using Olympus Capture. This would be a terrific benefit for 'lucky imaging' in astrophotography, I think. Why OC? Because the fine focus control that's possible without touching the camera. My two cents. Keep up the good work with your channel, Peter. It's much appreciated.
Congratulations on the channel I follow and I find the content very interesting and your explanations always clear and comprehensive. I am an enthusiast and fan of oympus and I own and have owned, speaking only of digital, 5 machines of this brand and I continue to use them with great satisfaction. But let's get to the question, with this new firmware olympus introduces support for new lenses for focus stacking; I believe this is simply a commercial move to be able to sell your lenses; let me explain. I have an old e-m1 mk1 and a mk2 now for the mk1 there is a custom firmware that allows you to perform focus stacking with any autofocus lens you can connect; I tried with the original olympus that allow focus stacking, with the m.zuiko that oly declares not working and even with panasonic and sigma lenses; they all work ..... At this point I imagine that the block for the other lenses is imposed by the firmware only for commercial reasons and this is not a good behavior.
Dear Peter, Many Thanks for your continuous efforts for following the upgrades of Olympus, which is my favourite Camera maker since 1980. Concerning manual Focus, I use it when photographing Portraits, Macro Photography, Flowers and Landscapes, all the time to have full control on Composition and Depth of Field.
No. 3 seems in Lumix gf5 have it way long long time ago! Yes the manual focus chart are very useful when shooting stars or landscapes! I think is UI(user interface) only, so sad my em10mkii don’t have it.
I do use MF some, so anxious to try the MF focus indicator. BUT, really disappointed that the Bird AF Detection is not in EM-1mIII. I could swap to M1X, but then I would lose Starry Sky AF I think.
I use MF when I need quick photo at known or near known focus distance or main light source is in front (like sunrise or sunset). I cannot say that I use this quite often, but the MF focus meter I would like (would be nice) to see on my EM1 II. Tell who also take photo on 40-150 Pro in MF. I'm struggle a bit when I try to focus at infinite. If I focus from near to far, then when I get the lens infinite very quick I get out of focus (general blur). It is very very short step from infinite from infinite to out of focus. If the lens is already at infinite, just a light touch of focus ring can put the lens out of focus. Thanks!
good to see improvements in Olympus, despite uncertainty under JIP. If they continue beyond the things that were almost out when decision to sale was taken, then JIP will really contribute to Olympus community.
I had the same version, 4.5.0. Go to Settings > camera management and under registered cameras should be Update Firmware. Could be that the option is not there if the camera that you have does not support firmware update from the App. Unfortunately I could not find the list of supported cameras.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks Peter, I have the EM1 Mark II so I think it doesn't support App firmware updates. I will be picking up the Mark III next week so will try it again to see if the App will support firmware updates
I haven't done mucho photography un a verte long time, so my previus cameras to the OMD M2, Olympus Pen S AND a Pentax Spotmatic, so it's MF 90% of the time 🤣🤣
Thanks Peter for the update. Same as Julian below I had assumed that the EM1 mk3 would be included in the bird recognition upgrade. I bought it for bird photography abroad instead of taking the heavier Canon 1DX2 and lenses . I was looking forward to purchasing the new 150-400 f4.5 but will hold back now and may use my budget to upgrade my Canon 5d4 to a R5
On my old FZ150 bridge camera I had a focus scale, with a DOF indicator, very handy. I wonder why focus distance and focus depth is not standard when using MF. Every EXIF data shows me the focus distance very accurately.
I have read the news about the update, I like the possibility of seeing the focus distances, for the rsto I photograph birds very little and I don't make videos, but the news seems important to me !! Sorry for my bad English, as always Thanks for your excellent videos. Regards
As someone who doesn't do video and a EM1 MKiii user the only upgrade for me is the focus indicator. That I will use a lot as I do a lot of manual focus work. Something I have asked for several times whenever I've spoken to Olympus people is, in effect, an extension of this whereby for any given aperture you hit a button, probably the normal shutter/back button focus button, and the camera focuses on to the hyperfocal point thus giving you the maximum DoF. In addition the new indicator could display the calculated in focus region as well. This is just a simple calculation after all. So, for a non video MK3 user this upgrade only offers one thing albeit it is a decent function.
Always use Auto+manual all the time mostly to select the focal point or when. Except for action shots following a race car or the action is too fast to manual focus. An option is to use a fixed focus point ie on a race track focus on a point on the track or fence.
Thanks for doing this video on the software updates. Even though I have registered my EM 1 Mk III, I did not know about this upgrade until I saw your video. Thanks!
Looking forward to the focusing indicator. Specially helpful for the non MF clutch lenses like the small 30mm - due to the missing focus limiter always struggling at which end of the focus I am
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Updating is a dangerous operation : I screwed it up so I had to send in the camera for repair
My 300mm f/4 pro had a problem during the updating process and resulted into an inoperable lens. My body though got the latest firmware version. :'( Such a bummer and hassle for a gear yo're paying thousands of dollars. There's no fail safe method like reverting the firmware to previous verison if doesn't complete or you can just try again. Now there's the hassle and stress to send the lens back to the service center and paying for shippjng and fees (possibly) but I seriously mentioned that it shouldn't be the customer's hassle to pay for such a thing. It's already 2022 and they should have a better system/way to update their camera or lens' firmware without bricking the equipment.
@@ForsgardPeter Singapore and Malaysia are the closest. They're not responding to my emails though. Olympus Japan is more responsive. I asked them if I can send the lens to Japan instead. I'm awaiting there response.
I believe the prosessor in the omd1mk2 is not capable for starry sky,digital ND filters,etc. Thats why tbe EM1X have two prosessors and the Oly OMD1MK3 have a new stronger prosessor.
@@leonfourie5717 I know the digital filters and handheld high res is hardware dependant, but starry sky is software. Livebulb can do it via manual focus. So it should be possible to gather the same light via af. Olyjip just needs to program it. Hopefully it will come, because I can't afford to upgrade 😅
I am surprised by the MF scale being new. Maybe I am misunderstanding but my Panasonic GX80 has this, I am sure my previous GX7 had it too. Why would Olympus not have this and now not add it to the E-M5 III and even E-M10 IV? I really like Olympus but at the same time some choices they make are a mystery. Yes I use MF with my Oly 60mm macro mostly.
I have the EM1 MkIII for a few months now and use it for stills and video. I like the coming updates but had hoped, that 4k 60fps would be added. But what I recently found out and really disappoints me is, that I cannot use 4k video with the remote control functions of O. I. share app or Olympus Capture Software. They both switch the video settings of the camera back to 1080. Can anybody tell me why?
It is true that Olympus needs 4K 60p. I have no idea why 4K recording is disabled when using OI.Share app. If you want to start recording remotely there is a workaround. Get a wireless shutter trigger and set the video recording to start from shutter button.
From your video the focus indicator seems to be only an indicator on a line. I would prefer to have the distance of the focus point indicated in meters and - to be unmodest - the depth of field and the hyperfocal point too. I use MF in two ways: when I am shooting with autofocus I often cintroll the dof in addtion. When I have a pro lense then due to the focus clutch I can use "real" MF - for landscapes, still lifes and macros.
Greetings from Southern Indiana, USA! I've been told to wait until new firmware has been out for 2weeks or a month before upgrading, in case of problems. I liked your video on upgrading firmware. Hasn't it changed since then? I would like to see a video on using the newer methods of the smartphone or of using Olympus Workspace. (Maybe that's 2 videos?)
thanks for keeping us updated with the new information, Peter! I really wish Olympus would somehow add 4k60fps, 8 or 10bit in E-M1X. But I don't think they're doing it :(
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No Starry Sky AF and NO Eye AF Detection added to the M1X. DISAPPOINTING!!!
I agree that those features would have been nice.
I wish Bird Detection AF was made available in the em1 mark iii. I don’t know if there is a limitation in the camera but it would certainly be a great feature.
I know it would, nut I understand that the AI-driven subject recognition is reserved to E-M1X. At least for now.
I think the press release mentioned the dual CPUs on the M1X were required to run the bird eye AF. The single CPU on the EM1v3 is supposedly underpowered
I started my stills career using sports Canon ‘big whites’ FD lenses, so manual focussing is second nature to me. I have now been working as a cameraman in Swedish broadcast specialising in sports and events for over thirty years where we use those huge and extremely heavy Canon and Fuji box lenses that can cost up to and around two million Swedish Kronors. All true broadcast lenses are only manual focussing for one main reason and that is that when shooting live we cannot have a focussing system that decides to do its own thing. We have had autofocus prototypes from Canon and Fuji in broadcast over fifteen years ago that autofocus capability wise were around where Panasonic are today, that the industry tried but ultimately rejected, so even though these lovely small mirrorless cameras are so sophisticated in their autofocus, if one is an aspiring cinematographer or videographer that wants to work on high end productions in cinema or broadcast, it is essential to learn how to manually focus to get work, there will be no autofocus equipment to help you get the shot! Manual is the cake, autofocus is the icing on the top!🙏🏾
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the human eye AF for EM1MK2 which they promised in their marketing materials. Currently after many firmware updates it's still the tip of the nose detection system, pretty much useless. When I was choosing the M43 system I hesitated between Sony APSC and M43, now I see that if I'd buy into Sony I already would have the eye AF. Olympus if you read this please finally deliver!
I have had no problem with the Eye detection with my E-M1 MKIII. Have you chosen all the focusing points and AF-C+TR?
He’s on Mark II
Hey Krzysztof. Regarding your problem, probably you are using caf + tracking instead caf, as Peter wrote. Mimii detects the eye, but from a closer distance. Same thing with the face. It's fine for head shots.
Unfortunately, there is no chance for the same eye detection as in m1miii. I sold m1x and bought m1miii because of the eye detection and face selection mode.I still have m1mii and the difference in eye and face detection between mii and miii is huge. It's worth noting that eye detection and afc is much more effective with Olympus lenses. For example, sigma 56 1.4 is is not as good as oly 45 1.2(especially in low light). Difference between sigma 16mm and oly 17mm1.2 is even bigger.
@@kamilrakowski23 thank you, good to know that on EM1mk3 it finally works. I have a feeling that it's rather business decision rather than technical, but who knows, maybe that the second processor was necessary to improve the performance of eye AF
@@ForsgardPeter Mkii not equal Mkiii !!!
I have had no problem with the Eye detection with my E-M1 MKIII. Have you chosen all the focusing points and AF-C + TR?
In the body of the E-M1Mkiii, in the current FW 1.3 there is a fully functional Ai face detection (face, left eye, right eye) and it is not even necessary to activate all focus points, the middle sigle is enough. For me, it even works through the reduction of VILTROX to Sigma S 120-300 / 2.8 ... Otherwise, AF itself is worth the shit, because it goes through the entire range, evaluates and only then when it calculates what was the sharpest, it returns to the sharpest, but works unreliable. But I can live with that, I help myself with manual AF with the magnifying glass function.
Fuji cameras have this focusing distance scale in every model since launch (X-E1), so processing power is not an issue here. Pity that Olympus made purely marketing decision not to include it in E-M1 mark II and E-M5 mark III.
True. I think they added it because the new 150-400 does not have a manual focus clutch. Why they didn't add it to m1mii and m5miii I have no idea.
I want birds af in my EM1m2.
@@DmitryBrodsky007 unlikely, it's going to happen. Even mark 3 have not got it.
The bird update should also be offered to em1iii owners. Or it should maybe offered to those who purchase the 100-400 or the 150-400? Some people want a relatively more compact camera which is the main reason they went for m43
You got it right!
Peter, I know I am very late to this party but just today took delivery of my new OMD EM1 MK2 having jumped ship from Fuji. The camera in my opinion is fabulous but I do miss the focal distance scale that Fuji uses which I found very useful for my landscape photography. I think Olympus have been a bit stingy not incorporating this for the Mk2 upgrade. Looks like I will be digging out my hyperfocal distance chart again. 😞
I was really hoping bird tracking would be added to the em1 iii. Oh well
As much as I'm happy to see the new firmware updates, especially the bird recognition AF, I'm disappointed not seeing Starry Sky AF being added to the M1X.
I agree that there should have been more features for E-M1X.
There should have been the facial recognition upgrade that was included with the EM1 Mark III for the EM1-X as well. The X is supposed to be the flagship, after all.
Hey Peter! Thanks for all the details regarding the update. I must say I am a little underwhelmed. I recently bought the E-M1 III and it does not get an animal detect autofocus when my G9 that’s already a few years old has it (and not just birds!). The other updates are certainly welcome though.
Either Olympus is intentionally keeping these away from the M1 III or the G9 has a more modern CPU... Unfortunately I think it’s the former.
I Don’t like the bird detection I. My G9 and usually turn it off. If there is a busy background the focus starts hunting around. Birds in flight I prefer a cluster focus area. Maybe they first want to test it on the M1X and if feedback is good they might implement it on other models.
Exactly my experience, I also bought an E-M1-Mk3 for game. You are not deceived yourself in this. Otherwise, I like ideas from Olympus, it can do little miracles.
Disappointed that the Bird AF isn't on the E-M1 mk3 hopefully that might change next year but I won't be holding my breath.
Unfortunately I think the Subject Recognition is only for E-M1X.
@@ForsgardPeter Yes from my readying I too have deemed that the new functionality will not be coming to the EM1 mk3. I find this a real shame I swapped from EOS DSLR system to Olympus late last year for a few reasons weight being of course a major factor but also the great pro lenses. I chose the EM1 mk3 from reading a lot of material and in most articles the same thing was mentioned it is basically a lighter EM1x with same functionality. As I mainly shoot wildlife and especially birds I am now disappointed in my choice as if I had known the EM1x was going to get things like bird priority AF before I bought the mk3 I wouldnt have purchased the mk3 and instead got the EM1x. I will now have to decide whether to purchase the 1x or go back to Canon and get an R5 as I still have my L series EF lenses.
@@johnwhiteaway2795 Same here. Walked away from my Canon rigs that's ive shot with for decades to switch to Olympus;. Reason I went EM1 Mark III instead of the M1X was the same as what you stated.
If the EM1X can use the new bird autofocus while using Pro-capture, I don't see why the EM1 mark III is not capable of using this feature in situations where you don't double up process heavy features. I bought the EM1 mark III as a companion to my EM1 mark II because of it apparent 2X faster processor, to allow for features such as bird autofocus...
I am happy for EM1X owners, but disappointed in Olympus for not pushing this feature in their other flagship camera.
Yes it can use Bird Autofocus in ProCapture mode. Did test it during the weekend.
@@ForsgardPeter The EM1MK3?
AFAIK the 1X is the ONLY camera that has any of the AI based focus categories - it was supposed to be a star feature of that particular camera.
This is such good news although v disappointing and unkind that the M focus only in 2 cameras. Many thanks for the update Peter.
The stand out feature for me is the ProRes RAW update. This is not only great for Olympus users but probably more important for Panasonic GH5/GH5s users. Here is my reasoning: many MFT videographers prefer the Panasonic over Oly for its full featured video toolset and some like me might have invested in Oly pro lenses to shoot manually as the Panasonic has unreliable autofocus. The only GH5 upgrade path to get any better video quality or look, is to go full frame or wait for a GH6. However now that Oly now has ProRes RAW with a Ninja V (which many serious GH5 owners already own for getting ProRes HQ and 4K60) this now gives us an upgrade path where we not only get RAW but we can now use our native Oly Pro lenses on the bodies they were made for. The video toolset is now provided by the Ninja and we Panasonic owners get to experience Oly’s image stabilisation. To top it all off we get a better stills feature set! Happy days!😀🙏🏾
ProRes RAW reads pixels 1:1 so if the resolution is 4K this means 1.35x crop. If it read the whole sensor it could do 6K anamorphic but perhaps it is too hard on the camera. I have a GH5 EM1MKII and G9 and considering the maturity of ProRes RAW if I wanted to get it I would buy a Zcam E2
I agree if the aim is having a true video camera is the priority rather than a hybrid alternative!🙏🏾
Thanks for this Peter. In your upcoming video about the new bird tracking, can you make any predictions about whether this feature will be added to the EM1-mark iii in the future? I would be thrilled if that was added. I just landed a used 300 mm f4 and had it out for my first birding trip this weekend. It was great, but CF with bird tracking would be really a great upgrade, since the existing tracking isn't really up to the challenge of birds in flight.
Most likely the feature is only reserved to E-M1X. At least for now.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks for the reply Peter, I was afraid of that. I saw a possible answer in the comment section of another FB post.The issue is that unlike E-M1X the E-M1-miii doesn't have dual processors and as of now that kind of computational power is needed in order to pull off subject tracking. Oh well, in the mean time I'll keep trying to improve my technique!
Even the title of this nice video is fake, like OLYMPUS itself. I'm sorry because I bought the em1 Mark iii some time ago and I wanted to support the brand in its financial difficulties. I hoped that the Ai for animal and bird eye recognition would include, but it didn't happen, I'm disappointed.
This was probably a fatal mistake of OLYMPUS in not putting these Ai features into its cameras, so the brand is dying.
Unfortunately the AI is only in E-M1X. I think it is build so that it needs two procesessors.
Thanks for the info and video Peter!
MF is important for me, but I don’t think that the new display could help me very much. I would appreciate a depth of field indication such as some LUMIX cameras have it. Anyway, both does not work with full manual lenses.
How come Mk III gets no bird AF?
It does not have Subject Recognition AF. It is reserved to E-M1X I guess.
It would’ve been nice to get bird recognition on the EM1 MKIII as well but I’m still happy to see a few of the other upgrades; especially the focus indicator because I do use manual focus quite frequently.
Still learning the ins and outs of my new EM1 MKIII and EM5 MKIII so I have plenty on my plate for now already. Even without bird recognition.
Now I have to watch your video on the new 150-400 lens to see if I can talk myself into it with your help!😉📷❤️📷
Really looking forward to try the bird recognition AF. ProRes Raw is a great thing too. Maybe it's time to sell my GH5s and starting using the EM1-X for video too. It has a lot better Video-AF than the Panasonic camera.
Yes the video AF is a lot better. GH5s has it advantages, but E-M1X is a great video camera too.
Thanks for doing this video. I was hoping the face detection as in M1-III would be implemented in this firmware for M1X!?
True, that would have been good.
@@ForsgardPeter
Now we see that Olympus wanted to anger his supporters in the end. But to the point. In my opinion, Olympus, with its advanced Ai functions with AF, could penetrate, through difficult times and into its (half as cheap) M1 Mkiii flagships, including FW recognition of objects and faces of people, animals and birds. He would withdraw on his side the owners of leading photo brands Canon and Nikon, who are attracted to these features, but in their brands they would pay twice as much for them. I had an OLYMPUS E-500 years ago, then I switched to NIKON and after three bodies from Nikon I tried to return to the OLYMPUS E1 Mkiii again. I was fascinated by the wisdom and speed of this camera compared to the DSLR and the SONY a7R even at a fractional price. It would be a great pity that OLYMPUS with its Ai potential perished only because the finished FW did not expand to its brands for short-sighted marketing reasons ...
Teraz vidíme, že Olympus si chcel na záver rozhnevať svojich priaznivcov. Ale k veci. Podľa môjho názoru, by sa Olympus svvojímy pokrokovými Ai funkciami s AF mohol prebrodiť, cez ťažké časy a do svojich (o polovicu lacnejších) vlajkových lodí M1 Mkiii včítane, zapracovať FW rozpoznávania objektov a tvári ľudí, zvierat a vtákov. Stiahol by na svoju stranu majiteľov popredných foto značiek Canon a Nikon, ktorých lákajú tieto funkcie, ale v ich značkách by za ne zaplatili dvojnásobok. Ja som mal pred rokmi OLYMPUS E-500, potom som prešiel na NIKON a po troch telách od Nikonu som opäť skúsil sa vrátiť do OLYMPUSU E1 Mkiii. Fascinovala ma múdrosť a rýchlosť tohoto fotoaparátu oproti DSLR a voči SONY a7R iv zlomková cena. Bola by veľká škoda, aby OLYMPUS so svojím Ai potenciálom zahynul len preto, že hotový FW nerozšíril na svoje značky z krátkozrakých marketingových dôvodov...
focus indicator display: my wife's pana G70 has this in standard since years. This is a no-brainer. Olympus shall provide that to all cameras. All.
Yes, agreed!
How do you select which bird it focuses on when there are more than one? I get 3 white boxes for 3 birds and neither dial, joystick or touch screen lets me select one.
Bird detection does not work in video mode, which is disappointing.
Not really sure how it chooses the bird. Most likely it will choose the one that is closest.
Thanks a lot for the info.
Would have been abdolutely possible to add manual focus indication to the other cameras, but no...
They need a firmware upgrade to magically turn an Olympus into a Canon R5.
Olympus is far from dead. I'm excited about the new firmware upgrades!
i use MF with AF to fine tune the focus on the bird face or eye if possible. i cant do without it.
I'm a little frustrated that features like "Subject detection" is not available on the E-M1 III since it's the newest model... And I don't really understand why. I mean it's still for professional use right?
Anyway, you mentioned the MF-clutch: I've got four Olympus lenses and only one (the 40-150 Pro) has the clutch. I've assigned the AEL/AFL switch for AF/MF control which works pretty good for me
I think it has to do with differenciation of cameras. Not a big fan of that either, but it is a business decision.
No subject détection on Em1 mark 3 ?
I don't think it's camera differentiation / marketing / business decision. The E-M1X is the only camera with two TruePic processors. Something that is needed, according to Olympus, to make the Subject AI Autofocus possible. The E-M1's only have a single TruePic processor.
@@EyesSquared do you think is better to buy em1 mark 3 or G9 or XT4 for mix use (photos and video). Thanks
I own an EM1mk2, m.zuiko; 25/1.8, 45/1.8, 75/1.8, 60/2.8macro, 12-40/2.8Pro, 40-150/2.8Pro ... I can't say how disappointed I am. The least I expected was a significant improvement in AF in all aspects. It would not be polite to say what I think of Olympus now
Regarding the MF upgrades. I have the M1.2 and M1.3. I use Focus peaking when using MF so I am not sure how much this new feature will help. I'll have to wait and see.
Keep up the great vlogs Peter
I recently switched to Olympus at Canon and purchased the EM-10 Mark 2 and Sigma 19mm 2.8 DN lens. There are no focus marks on the Sigma lens and unfortunately there are no indicators for focus in the camera settings either. I noticed this when i try to took star shot and I was quite surprised. When focusing manually, I use zoom, but I would be much happier if there was a focus indicator.
I have EM1ii & iii. I don’t have the lenses catered for. I don’t shoot video. I do use manual focussing quite a lot - with peaking. So nothing for me for my EM1ii. But I will update my EM1iii and try the Focus Indicator Display.
Yes, I use manual focus especially with the pro lenses. So the update ist sensefull- Wish Olympus had a "Focus Guide" like Canon in the newer ones like R6/R5- It is a very simple help to know when the focus is 100% on the subject. Perhaps some time it will be possible to have soemthing similiar with Olympus.
Dear Peter,
I need your honest feedback, whether to buy Olympus EM1 Mark III at present or better still wait until Olympus under the new Owner, might develop a possible better processor with higher MP facility and better features. Your feedback is highly appreciated.
I find the auto focus reliable. For chance close ups , hand held , I go auto focus. For quick snaps - auto focus . Portraiture ? well historically -auto focus. Composition being to me more important .
Why is there no Bird detection for my em1M3? That´s the only point of interest for me in that Firmware Update. But you maybe right in thinking this may not work with only one CPU inside. I hope the new owner will practice the firmware updates well, too! And yes, I use very often manual focusing, but always with my old Lenses wich have no autofocus and no way to send Information to the camera, so these focus distance feature may not work with them. At the end of the day there ist no new feature for my use.
I don't use manual focusing all that often because my 62-year-old eyes aren't as good as they used to be. But, I use manual focusing most of the time for static macro subjects at my desk, with the camera tethered to the computer, and sometimes when a very busy scene confuses the AF (more common with my E-M1.2 than with E-M1.3).
I recently took my E-M1.3 to the local zoo for the first time along with the 40-150 f/2.8 PRO and both teleconverters. I was very surprised to see that the E-M1.3 occasionally recognized and focused on bird eyes. However, it wasn't consistent or persistent like with people. But, it indicates to me that bird recognition might be within reach of the E-M1.3....if only Oly tried. :-) Even so, that's still better than the E-M1.2, which never recognized and focused on bird eyes
I have a new Firmware from russia for my E-M 1 I. Offers me free fresh beer. Suddenly works only monday morning. All other days i become fresh Milk. 😀
I’ve always liked quirky Olympus though never owning one. However as larger formats dominate low light performance and wide ISO range, I’ve simply never been able to commit to micro 4/3 as much as I prefer the bomb-proof build and ergonomics of the pro Oly.
Great update and thanks mate for showing this
Thanks Jimmy!
As an E-M1 II user I would have loved the focus indicator display for lenses without manual clutches, would make life a lot easier! Not sure why Olympus didn't bother with that
Thanks for the effort and easy explaining. Much appreciated. I don't own this camera, but I like watching all these new Olympus features.
👍👍👍
ProresRaw is what tipped me over the scale to buy a mark iii!
Pity they cut out the EM1 Mk 2 was left out of many upgrades
I've a pair of tawny owls in the back of my garden. I only see them when there's very little light. Olympus keep offering solutions to things that I don't even realise are hindering my photography. Manual telephoto focussing has been a pain initially for me without knowing intuitively which way I'm focussing. This will help. Bravo Olympus.
Please 4K60 on Olympus ! (Em1 mark 3)
Wake me up when Olympus can record RAW (ideally BRAW because of the file size) via USB-C to any hard drive directly in that format instead of via HDMI to a Ninja. I love MFT but Olympus and Panasonic are not competitive with Blackmagic. I'd love an Olympus body that could do BRAW internally or straight to a Samsung SSD via USB-C. That would be great. Until that time I'm not buying another Olympus camera body.
That would better than ProResRAW.Not sure if it is possible to get raw out of the USB on Olympus.
Nice video Peter, thank you! I use MF quite a bit, in fact that is a big reason to have the Pro lenses, omitting this feature from other bodies with this firmware update is a Bad Business decision IMHO. It is also a Bad Business decision to not give the EM1 MKiii the various detections especially for Birds. The whole reason for me to use MFT and Olympus in particular is for small size. I really do not want an EM1x, it is bigger than I want. I love the size of the EM1 and that is the body that I want to use. Not giving me the Bird detection kind of makes me consider the Sony A9 series which has incredible AF abilities. Olympus or now JIP needs to understand their customers. I have multiple Olympus bodies but I certainly do not want to own ALL of their bodies, it is just not practical or really feasible. I like the size of the EM1 and EM5 series, they are great for travel and walking. The EM1 MKiii is a top of the line body and should have as many capabilities as possible within the processing limits. Leaving features out does differentiate but it also gives me pause when buying.
Well written Bruce! Not providing various detections on the E-M1 Mkiii, means withdrawing from OLYMPUS, or buying more OLYMPUS cameras ...? - sick.
I use manual focus when I am taking photos with the lens wide open for a very narrow depth of field... that means I NEED to be sure I am focused in the right place. Good info here Peter, thanks for sharing!!!
Thank you.
No interest to all the people like me with older cameras in my case 5Mk. ll
Nice FW review video. I do use MF maybe 25% of the time. The new MF bar scale is nice, but I would like to see show DOF or give the actual distance as a number.
I was surprise the E-M1X did not get the new Face Detection that is in the EM1.3.
Disappointed the Flagship model did not get the new face detection like the EM1.3 :(
I have the OMD EM1 MK2 Reading the specs on the latest Firmware I am unlikely to use the two features listed for the MK2, my question is there any advantage updating my camera.
Even if you do need the features it is still a good thing to have the latest firmware.
I saw they added a new camera also. The EM10IIIS which is an EM10III with silent shooting and another art mode. Wonder if this is a JIP idea to recycle old stuff and make a quick profit on it?
Yes they did. That was actually launched in August. Back then it was only for Chinese and Thailand markets. Apparently it is now for every market. JIP/OM Digital Solutions takes over 1.1.2021 and do not think this is something that JIP has decided.
I mostly only do mf for astrophotography, but sometimes also to make sure I get focus on the items behind enemy lines (grass, fence and such) 😊 the new focus distance thing, is seen in a lot of cheap cameras. So yeah, why only the 2 top models 🤔
William, only ONE! (M1X)
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Olympus cameras record prores raw video with atomos ninja V!!!, this changes to another dimension the olympus cameras, thank you Peter!
Yes, it is great and makes the camera even better.
Really looking forward to the bird tracking
Will the IBIS update work with all zoom lenses for video? on em1 mk2
IBIS was not updated. It is only for the new lens and its stabilazer.
Where is the Software upgrade? I can't find it on the Olympus webpage!
December 3. We need to wait 2 weeks.
As an E-M1 Mark II owner I'm not excited about this firmware upgrade very much, as I'm not much of a video shooter. Nevertheless, if Olympus were to ask me what video-related firmware update I'd like to see, I'd have to say direct-to-PC storage of video using Olympus Capture. This would be a terrific benefit for 'lucky imaging' in astrophotography, I think. Why OC? Because the fine focus control that's possible without touching the camera. My two cents.
Keep up the good work with your channel, Peter. It's much appreciated.
Congratulations on the channel I follow and I find the content very interesting and your explanations always clear and comprehensive.
I am an enthusiast and fan of oympus and I own and have owned, speaking only of digital, 5 machines of this brand and I continue to use them with great satisfaction.
But let's get to the question, with this new firmware olympus introduces support for new lenses for focus stacking; I believe this is simply a commercial move to be able to sell your lenses; let me explain.
I have an old e-m1 mk1 and a mk2 now for the mk1 there is a custom firmware that allows you to perform focus stacking with any autofocus lens you can connect; I tried with the original olympus that allow focus stacking, with the m.zuiko that oly declares not working and even with panasonic and sigma lenses; they all work .....
At this point I imagine that the block for the other lenses is imposed by the firmware only for commercial reasons and this is not a good behavior.
Are you sure that you are not talking about focus bracketing?
@@ForsgardPeter absolutely yes, focus staking is on with every lens
Dear Peter, Many Thanks for your continuous efforts for following the upgrades of Olympus, which is my favourite Camera maker since 1980.
Concerning manual Focus, I use it when photographing Portraits, Macro Photography, Flowers and Landscapes, all the time to have full control on Composition and Depth of Field.
No. 3 seems in Lumix gf5 have it way long long time ago! Yes the manual focus chart are very useful when shooting stars or landscapes! I think is UI(user interface) only, so sad my em10mkii don’t have it.
I do use MF some, so anxious to try the MF focus indicator. BUT, really disappointed that the Bird AF Detection is not in EM-1mIII. I could swap to M1X, but then I would lose Starry Sky AF I think.
great video. thanks Peter. i think i will finally get the 100-400. or maybe save up more for the 200 f2.8 from leica
I use MF when I need quick photo at known or near known focus distance or main light source is in front (like sunrise or sunset).
I cannot say that I use this quite often, but the MF focus meter I would like (would be nice) to see on my EM1 II.
Tell who also take photo on 40-150 Pro in MF. I'm struggle a bit when I try to focus at infinite. If I focus from near to far, then when I get the lens infinite very quick I get out of focus (general blur). It is very very short step from infinite from infinite to out of focus. If the lens is already at infinite, just a light touch of focus ring can put the lens out of focus.
Thanks!
good to see improvements in Olympus, despite uncertainty under JIP. If they continue beyond the things that were almost out when decision to sale was taken, then JIP will really contribute to Olympus community.
I have version 4.5.0 of the OI App but don't see where you can update the camera's firmware. What version of the App are you showing in the video?
I had the same version, 4.5.0. Go to Settings > camera management and under registered cameras should be Update Firmware. Could be that the option is not there if the camera that you have does not support firmware update from the App. Unfortunately I could not find the list of supported cameras.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks Peter, I have the EM1 Mark II so I think it doesn't support App firmware updates. I will be picking up the Mark III next week so will try it again to see if the App will support firmware updates
I haven't done mucho photography un a verte long time, so my previus cameras to the OMD M2, Olympus Pen S AND a Pentax Spotmatic, so it's MF 90% of the time 🤣🤣
I am very "happy" that I own an OM-D E-M10 III. Once again, Olympus excluded this camera from firmware updates...
Thanks Peter for the update. Same as Julian below I had assumed that the EM1 mk3 would be included in the bird recognition upgrade. I bought it for bird photography abroad instead of taking the heavier Canon 1DX2 and lenses . I was looking forward to purchasing the new 150-400 f4.5 but will hold back now and may use my budget to upgrade my Canon 5d4 to a R5
On my old FZ150 bridge camera I had a focus scale, with a DOF indicator, very handy. I wonder why focus distance and focus depth is not standard when using MF. Every EXIF data shows me the focus distance very accurately.
Agree.
At last bird woow. waiting so long
I have read the news about the update, I like the possibility of seeing the focus distances, for the rsto I photograph birds very little and I don't make videos, but the news seems important to me !!
Sorry for my bad English, as always Thanks for your excellent videos.
Regards
As someone who doesn't do video and a EM1 MKiii user the only upgrade for me is the focus indicator. That I will use a lot as I do a lot of manual focus work.
Something I have asked for several times whenever I've spoken to Olympus people is, in effect, an extension of this whereby for any given aperture you hit a button, probably the normal shutter/back button focus button, and the camera focuses on to the hyperfocal point thus giving you the maximum DoF. In addition the new indicator could display the calculated in focus region as well. This is just a simple calculation after all.
So, for a non video MK3 user this upgrade only offers one thing albeit it is a decent function.
Always use Auto+manual all the time mostly to select the focal point or when. Except for action shots following a race car or the action is too fast to manual focus. An option is to use a fixed focus point ie on a race track focus on a point on the track or fence.
Thanks for doing this video on the software updates. Even though I have registered my EM 1 Mk III, I did not know about this upgrade until I saw your video. Thanks!
Muchas gracias, Peter !!!
Looking forward to the focusing indicator. Specially helpful for the non MF clutch lenses like the small 30mm - due to the missing focus limiter always struggling at which end of the focus I am
Updating is a dangerous operation : I screwed it up so I had to send in the camera for repair
My 300mm f/4 pro had a problem during the updating process and resulted into an inoperable lens. My body though got the latest firmware version. :'(
Such a bummer and hassle for a gear yo're paying thousands of dollars. There's no fail safe method like reverting the firmware to previous verison if doesn't complete or you can just try again.
Now there's the hassle and stress to send the lens back to the service center and paying for shippjng and fees (possibly) but I seriously mentioned that it shouldn't be the customer's hassle to pay for such a thing. It's already 2022 and they should have a better system/way to update their camera or lens' firmware without bricking the equipment.
Yes, the upgrade system is a bit old fashioned. Sorry to hear that your 300 f4 got stuck. I hope you can get it repaired soon.
@@ForsgardPeter It's such a hassle because we live in the Philippines and there's not official Olympus service center here.
I am sorry. What is the closest place to get it fixed?
@@ForsgardPeter Singapore and Malaysia are the closest. They're not responding to my emails though. Olympus Japan is more responsive. I asked them if I can send the lens to Japan instead. I'm awaiting there response.
Huff, still no starry sky for mk2 😬 come on olyjip, makes us mk2 owners happy 😅
I believe the prosessor in the omd1mk2 is not capable for starry sky,digital ND filters,etc. Thats why tbe EM1X have two prosessors and the Oly OMD1MK3 have a new stronger prosessor.
@@leonfourie5717 I know the digital filters and handheld high res is hardware dependant, but starry sky is software. Livebulb can do it via manual focus. So it should be possible to gather the same light via af. Olyjip just needs to program it. Hopefully it will come, because I can't afford to upgrade 😅
@@bamsemh1 Yes if possible i will surelly also like it. Maybe it will still happen.
I would appreciate the manual focus update on my e-m10 mk3
I am surprised by the MF scale being new. Maybe I am misunderstanding but my Panasonic GX80 has this, I am sure my previous GX7 had it too. Why would Olympus not have this and now not add it to the E-M5 III and even E-M10 IV?
I really like Olympus but at the same time some choices they make are a mystery.
Yes I use MF with my Oly 60mm macro mostly.
I know. It should have been on every Olympus OM-D.
Hey Olympus, if You read this..... think about subjects like dogs (wolfes), cats, deer & ..... this would be realy helpful
I will test that tomorrow. I have settle with the Zoo. No wildlife in the city.
I have the EM1 MkIII for a few months now and use it for stills and video. I like the coming updates but had hoped, that 4k 60fps would be added. But what I recently found out and really disappoints me is, that I cannot use 4k video with the remote control functions of O. I. share app or Olympus Capture Software. They both switch the video settings of the camera back to 1080. Can anybody tell me why?
It is true that Olympus needs 4K 60p. I have no idea why 4K recording is disabled when using OI.Share app. If you want to start recording remotely there is a workaround. Get a wireless shutter trigger and set the video recording to start from shutter button.
A focus scale was very much needed. Yay!! Good job!
More exciting stuff from Olympus!
Wow Peter!
I am drooling! At the moment it's a wee bit expensive, but what a lens.
I also use MF. As much as 50% of the time. This new indicator will be much appreciated
These are great updates! Thanks for sharing.
Thank Rob. I think so too. Olympus cameras are going to right direction. I hope that OM Digital Solutions keep up the same course.
Bah! Still no Starry Sky AF in the EM1X. Grrrr.
I use manual focus all the time. This update is a good thing.
From your video the focus indicator seems to be only an indicator on a line. I would prefer to have the distance of the focus point indicated in meters and - to be unmodest - the depth of field and the hyperfocal point too.
I use MF in two ways: when I am shooting with autofocus I often cintroll the dof in addtion. When I have a pro lense then due to the focus clutch I can use "real" MF - for landscapes, still lifes and macros.
I have said many times to Olympus that they should add hyperlocal info. That would most likely be possible.
Greetings from Southern Indiana, USA! I've been told to wait until new firmware has been out for 2weeks or a month before upgrading, in case of problems. I liked your video on upgrading firmware. Hasn't it changed since then? I would like to see a video on using the newer methods of the smartphone or of using Olympus Workspace. (Maybe that's 2 videos?)
I know that the video is bit outdated, but the method still works. I am about to make a new one in the near future.
thanks for keeping us updated with the new information, Peter!
I really wish Olympus would somehow add 4k60fps, 8 or 10bit in E-M1X. But I don't think they're doing it :(
I hope so too!
I am starting to use manual focus more, even buying lenses like the Pergear 35 f1.2
Manual focus is good to make out off focus photos
thanks for the information anyhow, however none of these improvements I need for my kind of fotography.