Adding PITTSBURGH to Expansion Big 12 Keeps League Alive: ACC Realignment Candidates for the Taking
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- Adding Pittsburgh to the Big 12 could benefit the league in several ways:
Expanded Market Reach: Pittsburgh is located in a populous region with a strong sports culture. Adding the University of Pittsburgh to the Big 12 would provide the conference with access to the Pittsburgh market, potentially increasing television viewership and attracting new fans to the conference.
Enhanced Academic Reputation: The University of Pittsburgh is a prestigious research institution with a strong academic reputation. Adding Pitt to the Big 12 could enhance the conference's academic profile and attract additional research funding opportunities.
Increased Revenue Potential: Pittsburgh's addition to the Big 12 could lead to increased revenue streams for the conference. The Pittsburgh market could attract higher television rights fees and sponsorship opportunities, bolstering the financial stability of the conference.
Improved Competitive Balance: Pitt has a competitive football program and a history of success in various sports. Adding Pitt to the Big 12 could enhance the conference's competitiveness and provide additional depth to its football and Olympic sports programs.
Geographical Alignment: Pittsburgh's location in the Northeastern United States could provide the Big 12 with a foothold in a region where it currently lacks representation. This geographical alignment could facilitate scheduling arrangements and travel logistics for conference teams.
Overall, adding Pittsburgh to the Big 12 could bring several benefits to the conference, including expanded market reach, enhanced academic reputation, increased revenue potential, improved competitive balance, and improved geographical alignment.
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I want to add Miami, Louisville and Georgia tech. Pittsburgh is a pro town and does not have its own stadium. Georgia tech with Atlanta market is a sleeping giant
Sorry but GT is such a minor player to the SEC and UGA, I couldn't see the Big 10 making much headway much less the XII.
Remember we know absolutely nothing about the XII as they have not played one season yet.
If the ACC depletes out so heavily to the SEC/B1G, that MIAMI, etc. become available, for what purpose would the BIG12 add?
@@tarheel7406 to get longsuffering WV and UCF some eastern teams. Cincy would like it too. But I hope the ACC stays viable.
@@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 If the ACC depletes out that heavily to the SEC/B1G, smaller regionals make even more sense in my view. An amicable realignment in which WVU & Cincy join the new ACC would be better than a large/wide new BIG12.
@@tarheel7406 That is an interesting idea. If the money is otherwise close, I can see the sense it it, for WV in particular. But why didn't the ACC try this most recently when they needed adds to counter the potential loss of Clemson and FSU? If it was an option then why add Cal and SMU? If it was not an option, why would it be an option after depletion?
Lots of better choices then Pitt. Who are they? Louisville, GT, VT, Miami ( if they don’t go to the Big 10), and NC State (see Miami except SEC)
As a Louisville fan I don’t want any part of SEC or BIG10
Uk is SEC winning 6-7 games maybe 8-9 once every 10 years can’t be fun
BIG12 I’ll take happily
Selfishly, I’m a Midwest guy living in Pittsburgh and I get to watch BIG12 games in Oakland if they join.
Big XII at The Pete!
The 2024 TV ratings for Pitt were middling at best. You can point to other indicators but the eyeballs are not impressive. As for the market the Steelers and Penn State are the brands with Pitts being an after thought.
PITT was 3rd in Average attendance increase in Power 5 (now 4) conference 2022-2023 +10,.1 k average behind Purdue +13.2 and Kansas +20.9 average. and last year a bad year for them at 3-9 The home attendance low was 41,000 against Boston College and the high of 57,000 against FSU.
Huh? Pitt's attendance decreased by 12% from 2022 to 2023. They were one of the worst declines in attendance between the years.
Pitt has had one good year in the last 10. Even with that, their average winning percentage is .488 over the last 10 seasons. They're not relevant.
Exactly this whole conversation was stupid.
@@andrewgomes5674 Agreed. It's insulting to the B12.
@user-ut2bw1vz1q I 100% agree and I'm an oregon state fan.
Sounds like he gave it more thought in this response. If they make it out I'm good with it.
Eat $ hit Pitt
Another CINCY move for the B12 if PITT added. Bring nothing to the party except empty beer cans. They only have 3 fans and the STEELERS and High School own the FB in Western PA and PITT is a distant 3rd.
Pitt isn't coming to the B1G.
Signed: PSU (I'll never forget or forgive 2016)
Pitt has trouble of putting fans in the stands
70,000 plus for WVU, Notre Dame and Penn State but PSU will not play home and away with Pitt again and Pitt will not play 2 games in State College for 1 in Pittsburgh.
I know football is the primary focus, but PITT's other sports have been on the rise in the past 5+ years. Men's soccer is now a national powerhouse making the final four in the past 4 years. Women's volleyball the same, making the elite 8 twice and final four in the past 3 years. Wrestling team is nationally ranked every year. The men's basketball team is turning the table and has put up two 20+ win seasons in a row, hopefully getting back to their ways when they dominated the Big East. Yes, football is "meh" but the other sports bring value. At least the Backyard Brawl w/ wvu would happen every year if PITT was in the Big12.
Edit... men's soccer made the final four twice in the past 4 years.
The new BIG12 is the worst P4 in overall sports, one of the reasons CAL/STANFORD had no interest.
Word is that FOX was only interested in BIG12 basketball and will likely drop next contract with the expanded B1G. In this "what if" scenario in which ESPN does not elect to renew the ACC's deal, FOX could pick up the conference for southeastern content and the historically (and currently) best and most valuable men's basketball.
All of this is speculation and very contingent on the degree of ACC depletion to the SEC/B1G.
From a UNC perspective, I’d be looking to get out ASAP. UNC is worth Big 10 money.
@@LockedOnBig12 UNC was most likely the last holdout for a new media deal that saved the ACC as a peer Tier 1. That ended with the +3 expansion over objections. UNC will eventually move to the SEC (or B1G) absent a miracle or unexpected political interference.
Not sure why this is relevant to the topic at hand.
Just joking.....respect pitt always
Only to the B12 dudes does it make sense for a school to make lateral move to make less money.
Drake how bout them Savannah Bananas?
Smoke and mirrors Pitt is trash. Top 20 endowment? Send me the data on that.
Let me lay this out... Miami will not be available to the Big 12. It depends on where FSU goes, SEC or B1G... Miami goes to the opposite choice. The Big 12 will end up with Pitt, Louisville, NC State, and Virginia Tech after the SEC and B1G takes North Carolina, Miami, FSU, Virginia, Clemson. The rest get downgraded to something like the American.
Why would so many Tier 2 ACC flight risks downgrade to the new BIG12?
I don't see the SEC taking MIAMI if it's only going to ~20.
@@tarheel7406 Well, one more Florida School, Clemson, North Carolina… yep there is room!
@@WeSRT4 Room isn't the determining factor, relative value and interest are. MIAMI voted for the +3 to sate ND; I suspect MIAMI is allied with ND and they well move as a pair when ND is forced to join the B1G.
@@tarheel7406 Well if what you say is correct, FSU is going to the SEC. Either way Miami goes to the SEC or the B1G which is what I said from the beginning.
@@WeSRT4 Unlikely FSU goes to the SEC. It and CLENSON are relatively disposable to the SEC, FSU has made itself less attractive due to its scorched earth tactics, and CLEMSON has allied with UNC for a coattail agreement. FSU is B1G (~80%) or BIG12 (~10%).
As far as I can tell, the SEC has no interest in MIAMI or it's a to ~24 bubble team.
ND is unlikely to join the B1G until the P2 have consolidated enough for a separate closed playoff, so that's when MIAMI most likely gets the B1G invite.
Pitt and Louisville could become the next Florida State and Clemson if they stay in the ACC.
Hmmmm. Doubtful they could win a national championship staying in the ACC.
@@DKOBSpeaks much like how it's doubtful that TCU or Oklahoma State will ever win a national championship while they are in the Big 12.
@@DKOBSpeaks No one outside of the eventual P2 will win a national championship unless there are separate playoffs.
@@Patrick-sg7cm Until BIG12 fans realize that the B12 will not be a lesser but acceptable/relevant P3, they will never get realignment correct.
@@Patrick-sg7cm I'lll do you one better! Much like anyone not named...
USC
University of Washington
University of Michigan
Ohio State
Penn State
University of Alabama
University of Georgia
LSU
University of Florida
University of Texas
Florida State
Clemson
Notre Dame
Will probably win an national championship going forward.
CFB was always broken. But now it is truly crumbling before our eyes... At least we can watch the NFL.