Been waiting for this one, I feel like I finally understand exactly the highlights and pitfalls of the grinder vs surfing through sporadic reviews and arguments online. Thanks for the great video as always!
That Duck-Rabbit x Standart Orange Wush Wush sample was some of the best damn coffee I've ever had. Kudos to you Spro for keeping the B-roll up to date!
Have had atom 75 for almost 3 years, it is so fast and quiet. Love the on demand button and simple button adjustment...not sure if I would want to go touch screen but then I'm old and probably don't appreciate modern tech or apps so much. I would be more interested in Helios 80 and what is different or better about that burr set... good video
Thanks Jeff, and I get you. I’m also resistant to touch screens as they can be a little spotty to use and have issues over time. This one worked well for the 3 months or so I had it though, but I can’t speak much for beyond that.
After spending $1400 on a grinder, you'll want to get the most out of it. This means buying the coffees that they have stored on the app, and possibly ignoring others that haven't made it on there yet. This feels like tech that narrows the field for coffee drinkers instead of expanding the experience.
You can add your own coffees, but it definitely feels designed to those who buy in larger quantities or the same coffees regularly vs those who want to try a lot of different coffees.
i can relate to this to some extent, while i spent close to that on my home grinder it doesn't get used to its potential. The app does narrow it down slightly however still able to be used without it from my understanding. Hopefully it grinds well for all new buyers
I have this grinder it's basically upgraded eureka atom 75 with different interface , what u get for extra 100$ if u go with lucca atom 75 is better burs , micro adjustment that is very precise , you really don't have to use the app ( thst I actually can't even install on my new android s22 ultra ) keeps telling me it's designed for older phones wtf! But even without this app interface is better than regular eureka atom 75 , their display fills cheap and plasticky
Silly take. Not really hard to dial in. Seems like a solution for a non-existent problem lol. Moreso geared towards someone who doesn't know what they are doing, yet buying a crazy expensive one?
I have the non-Lucca Atom 75, and it's a beast. The burrs are the same geometry as the Mythos One, so the shots are pretty similar. In other words, pretty good! That said, if you're wanting to single dose it, take out the declumper and RDT. It reduces the regrind a lot. Also, you can buy SSPs for it. :)
Yeah I saw there were a few aftermarket burr options that were designed for the Mythos. I think there are also single dose hoppers you can get 3D printed on Etsy or other similar shops. Could be worth it if you want either the Eureka or Lucca option.
Taste wise, how does it compare to the Specialita/ Mignon Libra? How is the useability and TrueGrind predictability for coffees that are not in the database? I assume you can use the grinder like a regular Atom 75 if for some reason you don't use the app? You get the added benefit of having the burr gap indicator for repeatability as a plus compared to the Atom 75. Thank you for the great videos and your thoughts.
Is it a hassle to get in the burr and chute for regular cleaning? I mean is it a thoughtfully designed in this aspect. This is an important factor for me / deal breaker. Appreciate it. Thanks as always.
I agree with you, I am not a fan of apps and prefer to select the options on the unit, whether Espresso/Coffee machine, grinders, etc. especially when you are very limited on space and a phone is one more thing to move around....
What grinder do you recommend for "those lighter, fruitier coffees"? I had my eyes on the Atom 75 but now I'm not so sure because I prefer lighter roasts.
There's Atom W 75 coming out soon with touchscreen display and grind by weight it should be the best one yet. I'm looking forward to buy it but hopefully You can get one for review before that.😉
Thanks for the video. The RPM is 1740. Measured using slow mo. Eurekas electrical/mechanical specs are useless. Nice to capture the dial creep. At the beginning you say 90watt motor, but you mention after the intro it is 900w. This is a safe number. The grinder spins up at 840watt no beans. With beans under load it should push 1200 watts though. If you still have this grinder is absolutely worth picking up the atom pro burr set separately. It’s a huge difference. The part number is “MAC75BREW CP”. They aren’t cheap $300usd. It’s no comparison to the stock 75mm burrs from eureka. Makes it into a whole different grinder.
I have used this grinder for awhile now and only use it in the 'manual' mode, ie, without the app as the app is really only good for coffees that are in the the Clive database. Also, there is a 'recalibrate' function on the grinder. You input the yield and the time of a pulled shot and the grinder will recommend a more appropriate grind size. This can get a bit funky. Many times I have inputed the variables for a shot that was way off (say 40 gram yield that took 45 seconds) to have the grinder recommend the same grind size that produced that result. Not sure why that happens. Probably user error, but it happens. It does yield a nice cup, I rarely change coffee so my workflow is known and easy. I have not tried it in 'single dose mode'.
Out of curiosity, did you weigh your ground beans in the portafilter for this? And was this a single dose operation or on demand? The reason why I ask is, if the weight was off and was not weighed, the results in the cup could have been different than expected.
@@StoicDude337 This was my next question. My normal use is to keep the hopper about a 1/3 full and use a timed shot. Results always seem to be around 0.2g of desired weight. After watching the video, I 'drained' the grinder of all beans and put in 20g and ground for 6 seconds (double the usual as suggested in the video). The grind was different and the time for my desired yield was less than normal. I repeated and got the same result. I was wondering if grinders are engineered to have a certain amount of beans of the hopper. FWIW, I had a Eureka Single Dose grinder and 1). 20 g wasn't always 20 g out with a large variation (don't know how the reviewers of that grinder got their consistency) and 2) the bellows kept falling off.
@lyleallan5124 I should be getting the grinder this week and I can report back what happens to me. My plan is to use it with a hopper filled with about 2-4 shots, so about 50-70g of beans, which usually has been working on my Specialita.
I quite like the idea and the reputation of Eureka… unfortunately, it is only available from Clive Coffee. The worse part is, they can’t ship to Canada, what a shame….
At 1600$ its directly competing with the two. I simply cant imagine why someone would get this over E65S or the new SJ V pro and Eureka not exactly known for their quality more like affordability
@@jurgenzielmann1108 The E65S is about 50% more expensive than an Atom 75. As far as the SJ V Pro, that is a much taller and bigger grinder than an Atom 75.
But this is Luccas atom that costs 1600$ so around 1450€, E65S costs around 1500-1600€, the standard Eureka Atom doesn’t need to be a part of the discussion the grinder at hand is Luccas overpriced Atom
Companion apps are a hard pass for me. I want hardware that’s not going to suffer down the road if a manufacturer stops investing on the digital side. And in my workflow, I’m happy to have a break from my phone.
I'm always a bit put off by vagueness in any kind of review. I don't need you to do a head-to-head, but especially when the thing is most of the way to 2k, talking about the price-point and broadly how it stacks up against others in that bracket seems like an easy thing to add and I don't feel like there's much of a discussion without those things.
Looks like it targets specific market, and users. Not for me. The overall idea is great, but someone who is willing to pay around 1400$, I think he can dial the grind size in the 3rd if not the 2nd attempt.
Lucca brand/model not being available outside US is the big downside. Don't bother waiting to be available, there are other better brands/quality coffee grinders out there
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To hear "internet of things" puts a shiver down my spine.
Been waiting for this one, I feel like I finally understand exactly the highlights and pitfalls of the grinder vs surfing through sporadic reviews and arguments online. Thanks for the great video as always!
Happy to help! Thanks for watching.
That Duck-Rabbit x Standart Orange Wush Wush sample was some of the best damn coffee I've ever had. Kudos to you Spro for keeping the B-roll up to date!
It was a wild one for sure! They don’t seem to miss when it comes to those samples! Cheers!
Have had atom 75 for almost 3 years, it is so fast and quiet. Love the on demand button and simple button adjustment...not sure if I would want to go touch screen but then I'm old and probably don't appreciate modern tech or apps so much. I would be more interested in Helios 80 and what is different or better about that burr set... good video
Thanks Jeff, and I get you. I’m also resistant to touch screens as they can be a little spotty to use and have issues over time. This one worked well for the 3 months or so I had it though, but I can’t speak much for beyond that.
After spending $1400 on a grinder, you'll want to get the most out of it. This means buying the coffees that they have stored on the app, and possibly ignoring others that haven't made it on there yet. This feels like tech that narrows the field for coffee drinkers instead of expanding the experience.
You can add your own coffees, but it definitely feels designed to those who buy in larger quantities or the same coffees regularly vs those who want to try a lot of different coffees.
i can relate to this to some extent, while i spent close to that on my home grinder it doesn't get used to its potential. The app does narrow it down slightly however still able to be used without it from my understanding. Hopefully it grinds well for all new buyers
I have this grinder it's basically upgraded eureka atom 75 with different interface , what u get for extra 100$ if u go with lucca atom 75 is better burs , micro adjustment that is very precise , you really don't have to use the app ( thst I actually can't even install on my new android s22 ultra ) keeps telling me it's designed for older phones wtf! But even without this app interface is better than regular eureka atom 75 , their display fills cheap and plasticky
Silly take. Not really hard to dial in. Seems like a solution for a non-existent problem lol. Moreso geared towards someone who doesn't know what they are doing, yet buying a crazy expensive one?
@@nicholashorswill4052 and that my friends is the essence of consumerism 😂
I have the non-Lucca Atom 75, and it's a beast. The burrs are the same geometry as the Mythos One, so the shots are pretty similar. In other words, pretty good! That said, if you're wanting to single dose it, take out the declumper and RDT. It reduces the regrind a lot. Also, you can buy SSPs for it. :)
Yeah I saw there were a few aftermarket burr options that were designed for the Mythos. I think there are also single dose hoppers you can get 3D printed on Etsy or other similar shops. Could be worth it if you want either the Eureka or Lucca option.
Taste wise, how does it compare to the Specialita/ Mignon Libra?
How is the useability and TrueGrind predictability for coffees that are not in the database?
I assume you can use the grinder like a regular Atom 75 if for some reason you don't use the app? You get the added benefit of having the burr gap indicator for repeatability as a plus compared to the Atom 75.
Thank you for the great videos and your thoughts.
I’ve had this one for 1 year+ now and use it daily. I love the grinder, but don’t particularly use the TrueGrind feature. Fair review!
Is it a hassle to get in the burr and chute for regular cleaning? I mean is it a thoughtfully designed in this aspect. This is an important factor for me / deal breaker. Appreciate it. Thanks as always.
We have touchscreens all around us all day, can't we just take a break from that when making coffee? ☕
Thank you my friend.
Of course, thanks for watching. Cheers!
I agree with you, I am not a fan of apps and prefer to select the options on the unit, whether Espresso/Coffee machine, grinders, etc. especially when you are very limited on space and a phone is one more thing to move around....
What grinder do you recommend for "those lighter, fruitier coffees"? I had my eyes on the Atom 75 but now I'm not so sure because I prefer lighter roasts.
Many thanks
Of course! Thanks for watching Alan.
There's Atom W 75 coming out soon with touchscreen display and grind by weight it should be the best one yet. I'm looking forward to buy it but hopefully You can get one for review before that.😉
Ouch, just ordered the standard model and then decided to read these comments, dang it 🙂
@@ericvancronk4919 You can return it.😉
Thanks for the video. The RPM is 1740. Measured using slow mo. Eurekas electrical/mechanical specs are useless. Nice to capture the dial creep. At the beginning you say 90watt motor, but you mention after the intro it is 900w. This is a safe number. The grinder spins up at 840watt no beans. With beans under load it should push 1200 watts though.
If you still have this grinder is absolutely worth picking up the atom pro burr set separately. It’s a huge difference. The part number is “MAC75BREW CP”. They aren’t cheap $300usd. It’s no comparison to the stock 75mm burrs from eureka. Makes it into a whole different grinder.
The ttt
Is it better then E65S gbw ?
I have used this grinder for awhile now and only use it in the 'manual' mode, ie, without the app as the app is really only good for coffees that are in the the Clive database. Also, there is a 'recalibrate' function on the grinder. You input the yield and the time of a pulled shot and the grinder will recommend a more appropriate grind size. This can get a bit funky. Many times I have inputed the variables for a shot that was way off (say 40 gram yield that took 45 seconds) to have the grinder recommend the same grind size that produced that result. Not sure why that happens. Probably user error, but it happens. It does yield a nice cup, I rarely change coffee so my workflow is known and easy. I have not tried it in 'single dose mode'.
Out of curiosity, did you weigh your ground beans in the portafilter for this?
And was this a single dose operation or on demand?
The reason why I ask is, if the weight was off and was not weighed, the results in the cup could have been different than expected.
@@StoicDude337 This was my next question. My normal use is to keep the hopper about a 1/3 full and use a timed shot. Results always seem to be around 0.2g of desired weight. After watching the video, I 'drained' the grinder of all beans and put in 20g and ground for 6 seconds (double the usual as suggested in the video). The grind was different and the time for my desired yield was less than normal. I repeated and got the same result. I was wondering if grinders are engineered to have a certain amount of beans of the hopper. FWIW, I had a Eureka Single Dose grinder and 1). 20 g wasn't always 20 g out with a large variation (don't know how the reviewers of that grinder got their consistency) and 2) the bellows kept falling off.
@lyleallan5124
I should be getting the grinder this week and I can report back what happens to me.
My plan is to use it with a hopper filled with about 2-4 shots, so about 50-70g of beans, which usually has been working on my Specialita.
I quite like the idea and the reputation of Eureka… unfortunately, it is only available from Clive Coffee. The worse part is, they can’t ship to Canada, what a shame….
LUCCA is coming to Canada soon!
Yeah I think the availability outside of the US is a downside for sure, but sounds like Canada is in luck soon.
@@Sprometheus glad to know that
0:34 It’s super clumpy compared to E65S or Super Jolly V Pro!
At 1600$ its directly competing with the two. I simply cant imagine why someone would get this over E65S or the new SJ V pro and Eureka not exactly known for their quality more like affordability
@@jurgenzielmann1108 The E65S is about 50% more expensive than an Atom 75. As far as the SJ V Pro, that is a much taller and bigger grinder than an Atom 75.
But this is Luccas atom that costs 1600$ so around 1450€, E65S costs around 1500-1600€, the standard Eureka Atom doesn’t need to be a part of the discussion the grinder at hand is Luccas overpriced Atom
@@jurgenzielmann1108 in the US. This is a US product only. The Atom 75 in Europe is about 1000€
Youre right for sub 1000 its not so bad, i must say the price clive is asking for this is no joke
Where can I get it? I've been waiting for this one :)
Clive..
Companion apps are a hard pass for me. I want hardware that’s not going to suffer down the road if a manufacturer stops investing on the digital side. And in my workflow, I’m happy to have a break from my phone.
I'm always a bit put off by vagueness in any kind of review. I don't need you to do a head-to-head, but especially when the thing is most of the way to 2k, talking about the price-point and broadly how it stacks up against others in that bracket seems like an easy thing to add and I don't feel like there's much of a discussion without those things.
Looks like it targets specific market, and users. Not for me.
The overall idea is great, but someone who is willing to pay around 1400$, I think he can dial the grind size in the 3rd if not the 2nd attempt.
Really surprised to see you using Methodical Coffee beans! The best around SC and probably among the best roasteries in the whole USA!
What’s with chive and their proprietary sizes
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I’ll only use a single dose grinder. Timed grinds seem annoying and too wasteful for me.
Love the grinder, but man how disappointing is that bean lid. $1400+ for the cheapest piece of plastic I've ever felt in my life..
Lucca brand/model not being available outside US is the big downside. Don't bother waiting to be available, there are other better brands/quality coffee grinders out there
"IOT grinder"
welp I'm out