Id be happy with the stock exhaust system it sounds more than good enough without the hassle of the noise police & insurance issues that come with fitting none road legal items.
Honestly, the idle on that stock exhaust sounds really good. Of course the slash-cuts will sound nicer once you give it some gravy - but that stock pipe is no slouch. Props to Triumph!
It's a Japanese styled Triumph. I prefer them more classic looking, but I wouldn't kick this one out of the garage. You are exactly right though, on real roads it's everything you want from a bike. 160 hp and bone racking riding position/race suspension add nothing to a back road ride around the country side.
I waited for the new one to come out before deciding whether to buy it or the previous model. I ended up choosing the previous one. Just prefer the aesthetic all round and the suspension / brake upgrades didn’t mean enough to me to go that route and I really didn’t like the new tank graphics and would have ended up just getting the black one.
Great review! Just demoed this bike last weekend and wow. It put a HUGE smile on my face! Handles like a dream, sounds glorious, and rips through the twisties just fine. Are there faster bikes? Sure. Do any of us need more to have an absolute BLAST on open roads? Not. At. All. 👍🏻😁
Got mine Saturday 14th August, so I'm still running it in, absolutely loving the bike, best choice i could have made. The only tiny negative I've found is that if it has rained you get water and mud coming between the rear mud guard and number plate, so I will be getting rid of the small tail tidy. Thanks for your reviews
I gotta say I’m leaning heavy triumph for my next bike. This and the trident 660 are at the top of the list. Will depend on how the bank account looks next year on which.
Nice review Rob! Impressive they've actually found a few more HP in Euro5 guise - mind you, they found an extra 10bhp for the T100 :-) They do run hot though don't they? Mine can scorch your left kneecap if you're not careful - probably a result of them running so lean? Oh, and get the headlamp aim checked on the Silver Speed Twin, you'll be bringing planes into land! ;-)
Can’t wait for the new Scrambler 1200 XE/Steve Mcqueen ride review. The exhaust work that Triumph claims to have better heat management is something to be verified. Lovely review this one too. Thanks.
First, thank you for creating all the contents. They are very high quality and enjoyable to watch. Have to admit, this bike is really tempting. Almost perfect blend of retro, naked, roadster and sport bike into one. Never thought a parallel twin could sound this good like a V twin, even with a 270 crank, they often sound like a weird single or half a triple, just not quite a V twin. Just checked the price here in Aussie, around 20k which is pretty good value considering the styling, quality, performance, features included and better running cost. Resale seems a bit let down for Triumph, not sure why. But for long term ownership, it is less of an issue. I think this is the bike I would like to jump on once I am off licence restriction (Yep, they make you riding a under 660 for three years before jumping on bigger bikes no matter the power to weight ratio, so even the Street Twin is off the list. DAMN! ).
I was deciding between this & the new Kawasaki Z900RS SE. Kawasaki won, Triumph need to upgrade the rear suspension, fix the snatchy throttle/stalling, & sort out the engine heat that keeps the cooling fan running all the time. What's the story with the Race tec tires on this rear suspension set up?.
love the Z900RS specially in stunning metallic green yellow scheme.In fairness its twin vs I4 very different experience.Twins have that throbbing feel that I4 lacks and why Motto Guzzi, Ducati twins BMW R's ,Triumph feel so good.
The old speed twin was a good half way between the T120 and Thruxton. The new one has pushed closer to the Thruxton and lost some classic style. Maybe they should just make a 1200 twin version of the trident called the speed twin, looking more like a speed triple, and make a T140, slightly sporty version of the T120. When you're pushing a retro so far towards performance, why bother with twin shocks, retro clocks etc.?
I am keeping my 2019, firstly it looks better. I have upgraded my suspension and brakes and installed the Vance and Hines pipes with x-pipe, so I don’t think the new bike will do much better.
Very, very nice updates. Yeah, give me the modern improvements! And one thing you gotta appreciate is how most of the manufacturers are taking the new emission standards in stride. I have a couple of old bikes and the one thing that I really can't stand is having to inhale the garbage coming out of the pipes, specially in city stop-and-go. Disgusting, and frankly not the kind of contribution I'd like to make to our air quality problems. A tiny bit more weight is WELL worth it. Modern bikes are fast, reliable, look great, do great things, and clean. Nothing to complain about.
Yep spot on comment. Everyone seems to want to junk the cat, and ignore the unburnt Carcinogenic gases coming out. I have a 83 xs400 and fitted some triumph scrambler pipes with a cat. What a difference. I didn’t smell like and old van every time I got home!
It does still sound great though. Compare it with all the new Ducati twins, which sadly now just have a one dimensional noise, and it shows how much Triumph have worked with the new regs.
I'm scouting for a new retro. This bike looks perfect, really seems to hit the sweet spot. The only issue I'm trying to get past is that it looks a little small to me in person. It feels fine when on it, but just doesn't quite have the presence I'm expecting.
The motor is a peach. Flexible enough to run gearing from 16/42 to 18/40. Invest less than $1000 for a tune, exhaust and cam boom another 15 horsepower on the ground. Find a two mile stretch of asphalt, sprockets and a fairing your got 150 mph. Of course that would be silly to do with one of these Triumph 1200cc watercooled twins....yep just call me silly.
@MOTOBOB 01:34 "Most of us don't really need it (adjustable forks)" I have to disagree, its the first thing any rider should sort out on a new bike. And that is the most disappointing aspect of these upgrades, why not throw on the Thruxton forks to complement the better brakes??? especially given the increased weight. Rider set-up is paramount to good handling and in turn better braking. I think Triumph really missed the mark here. Just my 2 cents worth, thanks for the vid bro!
Great video Rob! I’m in the fence between these two generations, but whichever path I will choose, the mods in the 2019 gen from the video look sick. Can you let us all know where to get them?
I love my speed twin 😎 still prefer my tank but each to there own. Never had squeeky brakes either. Prefer the looks of the old forks but as looks more classic old school but no doubt the new setup is better but I don't have any issues on mine. It's a great bike new or old 😎🏍️
I currently have a 2016 Thruxton but this bike really has my interest. I would love a more comfortable riding position and this is like a cross between the boni and the Thruxton. Would you choose a speed twin over a Thruxton?
Great video Rob… Love your vids ..straight talking and honest. So glad you got round to riding this… but I’m still torn between this and a new 2020/1 R Nine T … Same price roughly as dealers clear out their Euro 4 stock… I rode both last weekend…and at 6ft felt the R fitted me better…. But the ST defo felt quicker… but there’s only room in my shed for one…. Aaarghhh. What to do?
The bit at the end, getting the side stand down, I assume it's not been improved over the 2019 one ? I still struggle with that after 2 years. I must look like a complete plonker whilst struggling to get the lug on the side stand !
Hello! Just started watching your channel and you helped me discover the Triumph Speed Twin...what a delightful bike that seems to fit me well. I am in the process of purchasing a lightly used 2022 as I can't find a nearby new one. Can you point me to the best place to find accessories like luggage and performance parts for Speed Twins. Thanks and love your channel!
Hi, I am looking at purchasing my new bike. I am hesitating between the speed twin and the Scrambler 1200 XC. i have tried the XC and loved it. I am more of a weekend fast rider, i think the ST would be better for me, but i higly prefer the look of the Scrambler. What should i get? They cost around the same second hand here. Thanks :)
I just got my new Speed Twin last week and the side stand blob is my only negative. I do struggle to get it first time and it is taking some getting used to.
That’s a fair point - it was a bit choppy. But it didn’t really come to mind with this one. So I guess they’ve sorted it? Recent bikes from Triumph, esp. the trident, are pretty smooth on/off.
I'm buying one here in US, just put a deposit last week. Why the different blinkers for the US market? I like the smaller ones better. Also like the stock pipes sound!
Thx for the video. Speed twin and T120 are bikes i'm considering. I know they have different styles which make me even harder to pick one. Can you make a video comparing those two bike??
@@misterchuck6866 That would be somewhat problematic... and after bombing through south Wales today... I am now back in the "keep the Street Twin" camp as it was absolutely sublime in the twisties. The bike makes you work hard, but oh boy it's worth it!
Hello. . I am looking to get a Speed twin. ..I am getting a good deal on a used one. . However, it has 20,000 kms in just over 2 years. . It is however a certified pre-owned from the dealer. Should I consider buying it ? If yes what should I look out for when buying this 2019 Speed Twin ? Looking forward to get some help and insights
A question (should you read these). A a rider down here in Oz and so not concerned with Euro 5 is it worth my extra $5000 (2.5k quid) for the new version over the a 2020 with 1500 miles on it. I'm not an aggressive rider just want to cruise with a smile on my face. Great review as always.
They may as well go the whole way, put a monoshock on the back and get rid of those fussy looking clocks, that are at the wrong angle. The Street Twin is a great looking bike. Lots of people don't want spokes and olde worlde looks. The bike can be updated and lightened with minimal effort and be imporved too. I can't imagine that many people care about twin shocks on the back of a bike.
The only thing I don’t like about the looks of this bike is the side view with the gas tank leaning downwards. I wish it was in a straight line front to back
I don't know... I still prefer the looks of the former model. Wheels and front fender especially. I feel they should've left the looks alone and focus only on the Euro-5 part.
Very happy with my 2020 ST. The newer bike does have slightly better handling, but IMHO, it’s not enough to justify changing. You get used to the side stand inaccessibility. Has anyone found a cure for the squeaky front brake?
@@geofturner986 And they get taken off for a reason too. They are heavy, hard on the engine, create heat and back pressure, and for the few miles I put on any one of my bikes don't have much of an effect on air quality but make bureaucrats feel good about making more silly rules.
Awesome review! Thanks MotoBob! For anyone that reads this and owns this bike or who has ridden it...would this be a bike you would recommend for a mature rider (coming on 40) who has had their motorcycle license been around bikes, scooters and atvs not to mention ridden plenty as a child thru to my 20s but never actually owned a motorycle? Sort of relearning. About 5'10" 100 kilos . I moved to Europe a few years ago for my job and looking to get back in but can't test ride until I get my endorsement as I had let it expire during time on east coast where I didn't need it. Regrets. Thanks for the content and any feedback I get from this comment! Cheers!
This a great bike for returning riders I think. Im 52 rode a lot until my 30s and was off bike for almost 20 years. I got back into riding and also have big Multistrada1200 Enduro for touring. This Speed Twin is perfect. Super comfortable, easy to ride...loads of torque and not revvy at all. Great to get around town, take out on the back roads, it ride so easy just cruising along. If you want o let it rip you can but it is a great all a rounder. If was going to pick a one and only this would be it. You cant go wrong with any Triumph classic but this one is as close to perfect as you can get.
I don’t think build quality is an issue on the speed twin - it’s about as good as it gets. But I’m yet to ride the SE and it looks absolutely brilliant, so I’ll have to get back to you
That is a very hard question which I'm asking myself as well. However I rather steer towards the Speed Twin, but the Kawa looks absolutely awesome as well!
I’m assuming they just partially fitted the lowering bracket from Renstall moto and haven’t set the headlight where it needs to be. Even though the headlight is wonky it’s cool to see the belly pan and seat without the headlight fairing. I wonder if that seat is comfortable though.
Love the look of the bike, apart from the rear end that is in my mine hideous. Why is the mudguard so far away from the wheel, as it has got twin shocks?
For the price, they should provide adjustable front forks, especially now that they have managed to provide a new set of forks then why not provide adjustments with them?
Because 99% of the people don't need adjustable forks, since if you don't know what you are doing you gonna mess it up vary badly ( and usually the stock setting on these Marzocchis are perfect), I'd say a better pair of rear shocks instead would have been "mandatory" for the price. On my old Bonnie (years ago) I swapped the horrible stock shocks with a pair of Bitubo and the bike changed 100% for the better.
@@gautamasakyamuni6688 Most people are always gonna appreciate an option to adjust the stiffness of the suspension. Some might find the stock settings hard and might want to soften it for a more comfortable ride and some might want a stiffer shocks for better handling. And who says that they have to adjust by themself, they can always take their bike to a professional mechanic to do the adjustments. It's always good to have the options. Please get the idea that 'we have to adjust it ourselves' out of your head.
@@narendrairengbam112 As you please, so every few miles you change the settings since road conditions vary ? 😉 This is not an "extreme sport" bike, make peace with that. Set the forks and have those shitty rear shock? Good luck.
@@gautamasakyamuni6688 I am not even talking about the rear suspension. That is not even in the picture. It may be bad and need improvements, but that's about the rear. My point is, it would be great if the front forks had adjustments features. For the price and the for the type of premium motorcycle it is, it needs that. I don't know where you are going with the points you are making. Adjustable forks are good features, that's why most premium bikes have them. So that's why it also needs to have that. Simple point and you are going into talking nonsense by bringing up the rear shocks which is not something I am talking about.
@@narendrairengbam112 You know for a good bike balance you NEED both "front and rear suspensions balance" otherwise you will have problems in handling it, now does this fits the picture? otherwise we can carry on forever...also this is not a "premium" bike, this is an old style looking modern classic. overpriced as all the Triumphs. If you don't understand that...well good bye and good luck 😉
The Kawasaki Z900RS is cheaper, taller, more comfortable, more powerful by 10 hp (or 30hp more for a mere ₤500 tune-up), fully adjustable forks, single rear shock fully adjustable, nicer clocks, traction control, and maybe even a better sound stock. I would call that the benchmark sporty classic roadster. Considering the Triumphs are all built in Thailand now, there really is no justification for the markup over the Japanese models. Now if the new Z900RS SE (with Öhlins suspension and Brembo brakes) is not much more expensive than this, there is no competition on paper other than personal preferences for the looks of them.
i have both. The kawi is a more 360 usable bike, dinamically superior (better suspension and brakes) and cheaper. Yep its a win win for kawi, but the ST is more charismatic and i must admit everybody look at it and love it. But as a single bike? KAWI.
Can you compare this to the current street twin? I'm thinking of getting a street twin because it fits me better but I'm afraid it doesn't have enough power and handling chops
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Id be happy with the stock exhaust system it sounds more than good enough without the hassle of the noise police & insurance issues that come with fitting none road legal items.
Honestly, the idle on that stock exhaust sounds really good. Of course the slash-cuts will sound nicer once you give it some gravy - but that stock pipe is no slouch.
Props to Triumph!
It's a Japanese styled Triumph. I prefer them more classic looking, but I wouldn't kick this one out of the garage.
You are exactly right though, on real roads it's everything you want from a bike. 160 hp and bone racking riding position/race suspension add nothing to a back road ride around the country side.
Your normal videos have awesome production quality, but this one is incredible. Well done man!
Thanks mate - appreciate it! 🙏
The graphics and colours of the first gen suits this bike so much better !
I waited for the new one to come out before deciding whether to buy it or the previous model. I ended up choosing the previous one. Just prefer the aesthetic all round and the suspension / brake upgrades didn’t mean enough to me to go that route and I really didn’t like the new tank graphics and would have ended up just getting the black one.
Great review!
Just demoed this bike last weekend and wow. It put a HUGE smile on my face! Handles like a dream, sounds glorious, and rips through the twisties just fine. Are there faster bikes? Sure. Do any of us need more to have an absolute BLAST on open roads? Not. At. All. 👍🏻😁
Got mine Saturday 14th August, so I'm still running it in, absolutely loving the bike, best choice i could have made. The only tiny negative I've found is that if it has rained you get water and mud coming between the rear mud guard and number plate, so I will be getting rid of the small tail tidy. Thanks for your reviews
Lovely😇 ride safe..✌ btw what's the top speed it can cloak?
Have you tried any modifications at all on it? Switching the silencers etc?
@@Aditya-gv9ku top speed about 125 gps, but this is entirely because the ECU shuts down top of 6th with 70% throttle max artificial restriction.
I gotta say I’m leaning heavy triumph for my next bike. This and the trident 660 are at the top of the list. Will depend on how the bank account looks next year on which.
Nice review Rob! Impressive they've actually found a few more HP in Euro5 guise - mind you, they found an extra 10bhp for the T100 :-) They do run hot though don't they? Mine can scorch your left kneecap if you're not careful - probably a result of them running so lean? Oh, and get the headlamp aim checked on the Silver Speed Twin, you'll be bringing planes into land! ;-)
Can’t wait for the new Scrambler 1200 XE/Steve Mcqueen ride review. The exhaust work that Triumph claims to have better heat management is something to be verified.
Lovely review this one too.
Thanks.
I’ll try to get hold of one 👍
As a Swede I got to say I love the way you say ”Öhlins”. Priceless.
First, thank you for creating all the contents. They are very high quality and enjoyable to watch. Have to admit, this bike is really tempting. Almost perfect blend of retro, naked, roadster and sport bike into one. Never thought a parallel twin could sound this good like a V twin, even with a 270 crank, they often sound like a weird single or half a triple, just not quite a V twin. Just checked the price here in Aussie, around 20k which is pretty good value considering the styling, quality, performance, features included and better running cost. Resale seems a bit let down for Triumph, not sure why. But for long term ownership, it is less of an issue. I think this is the bike I would like to jump on once I am off licence restriction (Yep, they make you riding a under 660 for three years before jumping on bigger bikes no matter the power to weight ratio, so even the Street Twin is off the list. DAMN! ).
I was deciding between this & the new Kawasaki Z900RS SE. Kawasaki won, Triumph need to upgrade the rear suspension, fix the snatchy throttle/stalling, & sort out the engine heat that keeps the cooling fan running all the time.
What's the story with the Race tec tires on this rear suspension set up?.
i have both (regular z900rs tho) get the kawi. more 360 bike AND better suspension you can adjust preload AND rebound.
love the Z900RS specially in stunning metallic green yellow scheme.In fairness its twin vs I4 very different experience.Twins have that throbbing feel that I4 lacks and why Motto Guzzi, Ducati twins BMW R's ,Triumph feel so good.
Great review... but aren’t you driving on the wrong side of the road for a video shot in the UK? Around 6:00 onwards seems to get me wincing..
The old speed twin was a good half way between the T120 and Thruxton. The new one has pushed closer to the Thruxton and lost some classic style. Maybe they should just make a 1200 twin version of the trident called the speed twin, looking more like a speed triple, and make a T140, slightly sporty version of the T120. When you're pushing a retro so far towards performance, why bother with twin shocks, retro clocks etc.?
Best all-rounder, sound, comfort, performance, handling, value!
I am keeping my 2019, firstly it looks better. I have upgraded my suspension and brakes and installed the Vance and Hines pipes with x-pipe, so I don’t think the new bike will do much better.
Very, very nice updates. Yeah, give me the modern improvements! And one thing you gotta appreciate is how most of the manufacturers are taking the new emission standards in stride. I have a couple of old bikes and the one thing that I really can't stand is having to inhale the garbage coming out of the pipes, specially in city stop-and-go. Disgusting, and frankly not the kind of contribution I'd like to make to our air quality problems. A tiny bit more weight is WELL worth it. Modern bikes are fast, reliable, look great, do great things, and clean. Nothing to complain about.
Yep spot on comment. Everyone seems to want to junk the cat, and ignore the unburnt Carcinogenic gases coming out. I have a 83 xs400 and fitted some triumph scrambler pipes with a cat. What a difference. I didn’t smell like and old van every time I got home!
It does still sound great though.
Compare it with all the new Ducati twins, which sadly now just have a one dimensional noise, and it shows how much Triumph have worked with the new regs.
The headlight on the silver one is like...pointing to the 🌟 stars !
6:10 the cars on the right hand side really threw me for a minute
Is it me or at 6.14 in the video, you’re driving on the right hand side of the road? UK number plates on the cars going the other way.
I'm scouting for a new retro. This bike looks perfect, really seems to hit the sweet spot. The only issue I'm trying to get past is that it looks a little small to me in person. It feels fine when on it, but just doesn't quite have the presence I'm expecting.
Check out the R nine T
1200 Scrambler XE :)
Thanks, that’s probably top contender right now. Also have a strong attraction to the Guzzi V7 850.
hi i'll be shopping for a newer triumph or a kawasaki.W800 maybe a motoguzzi 750 i need your opinion badly@@motobob
The motor is a peach. Flexible enough to run gearing from 16/42 to 18/40. Invest less than $1000 for a tune, exhaust and cam boom another 15 horsepower on the ground. Find a two mile stretch of asphalt, sprockets and a fairing your got 150 mph.
Of course that would be silly to do with one of these Triumph 1200cc watercooled twins....yep just call me silly.
@MOTOBOB 01:34 "Most of us don't really need it (adjustable forks)" I have to disagree, its the first thing any rider should sort out on a new bike. And that is the most disappointing aspect of these upgrades, why not throw on the Thruxton forks to complement the better brakes??? especially given the increased weight. Rider set-up is paramount to good handling and in turn better braking. I think Triumph really missed the mark here. Just my 2 cents worth, thanks for the vid bro!
Great review! Those stock exhausts sound brilliant....to my ear anyway.
Nice guest appearance of Ollys older ST!
I've owned 5 Triples (currently have an 800 Tiger) but I swear one day I gotta get me one of these. So cool.
Great video Rob! I’m in the fence between these two generations, but whichever path I will choose, the mods in the 2019 gen from the video look sick. Can you let us all know where to get them?
top job mentioning the brakes issue. great vid. love my speed twin.
I absolutely love that bike. The closest dealer being 90 miles away is not something I want to undertake.
I love this bike
I love my speed twin 😎 still prefer my tank but each to there own. Never had squeeky brakes either. Prefer the looks of the old forks but as looks more classic old school but no doubt the new setup is better but I don't have any issues on mine. It's a great bike new or old 😎🏍️
Makes you wonder why they couldn't do anything different to the colour ways.
Best looking retro bike for sure.
Well done! Can’t wait to my grips on one. Safe riding!
I currently have a 2016 Thruxton but this bike really has my interest. I would love a more comfortable riding position and this is like a cross between the boni and the Thruxton. Would you choose a speed twin over a Thruxton?
What a beautiful bike!!! Can’t wait for mine
Great video Rob… Love your vids ..straight talking and honest. So glad you got round to riding this… but I’m still torn between this and a new 2020/1 R Nine T … Same price roughly as dealers clear out their Euro 4 stock… I rode both last weekend…and at 6ft felt the R fitted me better…. But the ST defo felt quicker… but there’s only room in my shed for one…. Aaarghhh. What to do?
Scrambler 1200?
buy a used 2020 ST
Triumph speed twin 1200 is very fine bike, it's the best modern classic bike in this era.
The bit at the end, getting the side stand down, I assume it's not been improved over the 2019 one ? I still struggle with that after 2 years. I must look like a complete plonker whilst struggling to get the lug on the side stand !
I’m more than happy with my recent 2019 addition. Tremendous slick performance and looks. Bye bye 👋 RnineT scrambler. Hello 👋 Speedy.
They should have added the rear seat handle just like they had it in Bonneville doesn't matter much but just in case...
Hello! Just started watching your channel and you helped me discover the Triumph Speed Twin...what a delightful bike that seems to fit me well. I am in the process of purchasing a lightly used 2022 as I can't find a nearby new one. Can you point me to the best place to find accessories like luggage and performance parts for Speed Twins. Thanks and love your channel!
This bike is next on my list for sure. Great video btw - thank you!
Thanks Paul! Glad you enjoyed it
Hi, I am looking at purchasing my new bike. I am hesitating between the speed twin and the Scrambler 1200 XC. i have tried the XC and loved it. I am more of a weekend fast rider, i think the ST would be better for me, but i higly prefer the look of the Scrambler. What should i get? They cost around the same second hand here. Thanks :)
I just got my new Speed Twin last week and the side stand blob is my only negative. I do struggle to get it first time and it is taking some getting used to.
Great review! How’s the fueling on this version? I found the first gen a bit choppy at slow speeds when I test rode one.
That’s a fair point - it was a bit choppy. But it didn’t really come to mind with this one. So I guess they’ve sorted it? Recent bikes from Triumph, esp. the trident, are pretty smooth on/off.
@@motobob thanks mate, appreciate the feedback!
I'm buying one here in US, just put a deposit last week. Why the different blinkers for the US market? I like the smaller ones better. Also like the stock pipes sound!
I think the US doesn’t allow LED blinkers as standard, but everywhere else does 👎
@@motobob No there is no such regulation. The last model did have LEDs, just a different (uglier) shape. It made no sense to me.
@@motobob Yes, the dealer told me DOT rules doesn't allow it. Guess what I'm replacing it ASAP. hahaha
Thx for the video. Speed twin and T120 are bikes i'm considering. I know they have different styles which make me even harder to pick one. Can you make a video comparing those two bike??
I’m on a 2017 T120 and have spent so many $$$ making it lighter and sexier. In the end, I could have just waited for the speedy.
I am starting to contemplate whether a new speed twin would be a worthy successor to the street twin.
It’s better in every way, Im upgrading from a street twin myself
I would say it depends on how you ride. Do you want a more sporty zoom zoom or are you still happy were you are.
But will you keep your name 😳
@@misterchuck6866 That would be somewhat problematic... and after bombing through south Wales today... I am now back in the "keep the Street Twin" camp as it was absolutely sublime in the twisties. The bike makes you work hard, but oh boy it's worth it!
Hello. . I am looking to get a Speed twin. ..I am getting a good deal on a used one. . However, it has 20,000 kms in just over 2 years. . It is however a certified pre-owned from the dealer. Should I consider buying it ? If yes what should I look out for when buying this 2019 Speed Twin ? Looking forward to get some help and insights
A question (should you read these). A a rider down here in Oz and so not concerned with Euro 5 is it worth my extra $5000 (2.5k quid) for the new version over the a 2020 with 1500 miles on it. I'm not an aggressive rider just want to cruise with a smile on my face. Great review as always.
Great review! But I won’t be upgrading my 2020 anytime soon. Love my slash cuts with a Motone X-pipe sound too much! ✌️
Good video as usual, but why do you mirror some of the road shots? 👍 🏍
Just looks a bit jarring when the bike is going back and forth in opposite directions across the screen
Excellent, thank you. Should get mine next month, looking forward to ripping it to bits and starting to customise it. Cheers Bob 👍🏻👍🏻
Enjoy! An incredible bike
Great review of a simply gorgeous motorcycle.
But can you still de-cat it just as easily as before?
Is the handling on the 2021 version that much better than the 2019 one ? I do prefer the handling on my Speed Triple 1050 over my 2019 Speed Twin.
There's got to be a decent exhaust upgrade to improve weight and fuel economy (which euro5 is killing on some bikes).
Tec dueller bud full system so removes everything big bore pipes and looks great too. That's what I'll be putting on mine when it comes.
Yes. Good to know. This was such a great bike before euro5.
They may as well go the whole way, put a monoshock on the back and get rid of those fussy looking clocks, that are at the wrong angle. The Street Twin is a great looking bike. Lots of people don't want spokes and olde worlde looks. The bike can be updated and lightened with minimal effort and be imporved too. I can't imagine that many people care about twin shocks on the back of a bike.
Would you choose this or a Yamaha XSR900 (2020)
Im stuck between the two. I need to get on some demos.
Kawa z900rs ftw
The sound of the bike is lovely when I can hear it when the unnecessary music if off ahh
The only thing I don’t like about the looks of this bike is the side view with the gas tank leaning downwards. I wish it was in a straight line front to back
T120?
I still prefer the overall look of the speed twin! I’m too nitpicky haha
Good review! Very attractive bike for all-around use.
Loved the review thanks so much. How do you find a back pack on a fast bike?
It’s a necessity with all the camera gear. I’m more used to riding with it than not now!
The silver one needs a headlight adjustment. Looks like it's a plane spotter. 5:26
Very peppy and good looking bike but no power up in the powerband. Coming from an mt09 that was hard to get use to. I prefer the mt09, z900 rs engine.
I don't know... I still prefer the looks of the former model. Wheels and front fender especially. I feel they should've left the looks alone and focus only on the Euro-5 part.
That chain looks really close to the rear tyre at 4.55!
Very happy with my 2020 ST. The newer bike does have slightly better handling, but IMHO, it’s not enough to justify changing. You get used to the side stand inaccessibility. Has anyone found a cure for the squeaky front brake?
I love it. My only concern is can I dump the catalytic converters? If that is possible then this will be my next bike.
Yes indeed. There are a few decat options from third parties
Why do you want to take the cat off? It's there for a reason.
@@geofturner986 And they get taken off for a reason too. They are heavy, hard on the engine, create heat and back pressure, and for the few miles I put on any one of my bikes don't have much of an effect on air quality but make bureaucrats feel good about making more silly rules.
Great first ride and high quality video.
Awesome review! Thanks MotoBob! For anyone that reads this and owns this bike or who has ridden it...would this be a bike you would recommend for a mature rider (coming on 40) who has had their motorcycle license been around bikes, scooters and atvs not to mention ridden plenty as a child thru to my 20s but never actually owned a motorycle? Sort of relearning. About 5'10" 100 kilos . I moved to Europe a few years ago for my job and looking to get back in but can't test ride until I get my endorsement as I had let it expire during time on east coast where I didn't need it. Regrets. Thanks for the content and any feedback I get from this comment! Cheers!
This a great bike for returning riders I think. Im 52 rode a lot until my 30s and was off bike for almost 20 years. I got back into riding and also have big Multistrada1200 Enduro for touring. This Speed Twin is perfect. Super comfortable, easy to ride...loads of torque and not revvy at all. Great to get around town, take out on the back roads, it ride so easy just cruising along. If you want o let it rip you can but it is a great all a rounder. If was going to pick a one and only this would be it. You cant go wrong with any Triumph classic but this one is as close to perfect as you can get.
So which would you prefer. This or the new Z900RS SE? I think I'm edging towards the Kawasaki from looks alone and possibly build quality.
I don’t think build quality is an issue on the speed twin - it’s about as good as it gets. But I’m yet to ride the SE and it looks absolutely brilliant, so I’ll have to get back to you
That is a very hard question which I'm asking myself as well. However I rather steer towards the Speed Twin, but the Kawa looks absolutely awesome as well!
@@motobob Build quality is definitely not an issue with Triumphs now. Commonality of dealerships should be more of deciding factor than build quality.
Love a sporty retro! Great video 👍
3:43 What exactly is the headlight on the the grey Speed Twin supposed to be illuminating? lol
I noticed that too lol ;-)
Billboards
I’m assuming they just partially fitted the lowering bracket from Renstall moto and haven’t set the headlight where it needs to be. Even though the headlight is wonky it’s cool to see the belly pan and seat without the headlight fairing. I wonder if that seat is comfortable though.
Has the newer model solved the issue of the serious amount of heat coming from the engine?
Love the look of the bike, apart from the rear end that is in my mine hideous. Why is the mudguard so far away from the wheel, as it has got twin shocks?
Really nice outro, not gonna lie
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i took one out last week and was disappointed at the lack of urgency in the power delivery
Rear shock upgrade and job done👍
Definitely the first mod. And then some pipes. Doesn’t need much else
@@motobob agreed. Great bike as it is but think I prefer the new Harley Davidson Sportster S👍
Err, was all the traffic on the wrong side of the road? Number plates also looked like Mirror images.
How were you and the car on the wrong side of the road at 6.03?
Flipped that clip
What happened to the headlight on the previous gen bike in the underpass?
Is that some anti Luftwaffe searchlight accessory from 1940?
Nice review,,,,these are nice bike , better than the competition.
Would've been nice if the pipes didn't blue in colour, cost-saving by Triumph?
For the price, they should provide adjustable front forks, especially now that they have managed to provide a new set of forks then why not provide adjustments with them?
Because 99% of the people don't need adjustable forks, since if you don't know what you are doing you gonna mess it up vary badly ( and usually the stock setting on these Marzocchis are perfect), I'd say a better pair of rear shocks instead would have been "mandatory" for the price. On my old Bonnie (years ago) I swapped the horrible stock shocks with a pair of Bitubo and the bike changed 100% for the better.
@@gautamasakyamuni6688 Most people are always gonna appreciate an option to adjust the stiffness of the suspension. Some might find the stock settings hard and might want to soften it for a more comfortable ride and some might want a stiffer shocks for better handling. And who says that they have to adjust by themself, they can always take their bike to a professional mechanic to do the adjustments. It's always good to have the options. Please get the idea that 'we have to adjust it ourselves' out of your head.
@@narendrairengbam112 As you please, so every few miles you change the settings since road conditions vary ? 😉 This is not an "extreme sport" bike, make peace with that. Set the forks and have those shitty rear shock? Good luck.
@@gautamasakyamuni6688 I am not even talking about the rear suspension. That is not even in the picture. It may be bad and need improvements, but that's about the rear. My point is, it would be great if the front forks had adjustments features. For the price and the for the type of premium motorcycle it is, it needs that. I don't know where you are going with the points you are making. Adjustable forks are good features, that's why most premium bikes have them. So that's why it also needs to have that. Simple point and you are going into talking nonsense by bringing up the rear shocks which is not something I am talking about.
@@narendrairengbam112 You know for a good bike balance you NEED both "front and rear suspensions balance" otherwise you will have problems in handling it, now does this fits the picture? otherwise we can carry on forever...also this is not a "premium" bike, this is an old style looking modern classic. overpriced as all the Triumphs. If you don't understand that...well good bye and good luck 😉
T 120 or Speed Twin?
I think its time to trade in my bobber black 😍
The Kawasaki Z900RS is cheaper, taller, more comfortable, more powerful by 10 hp (or 30hp more for a mere ₤500 tune-up), fully adjustable forks, single rear shock fully adjustable, nicer clocks, traction control, and maybe even a better sound stock. I would call that the benchmark sporty classic roadster.
Considering the Triumphs are all built in Thailand now, there really is no justification for the markup over the Japanese models.
Now if the new Z900RS SE (with Öhlins suspension and Brembo brakes) is not much more expensive than this, there is no competition on paper other than personal preferences for the looks of them.
i have both. The kawi is a more 360 usable bike, dinamically superior (better suspension and brakes) and cheaper. Yep its a win win for kawi, but the ST is more charismatic and i must admit everybody look at it and love it. But as a single bike? KAWI.
I am looking on eBay and 2019 models go for around 8k
Are newer models any different?
rode the new one last week, loved it, however, it is physically too small for me, so I bought a 1200XC Scrambler instead.
Good shout! That’s what I always recommend to taller riders. The XC is a brilliant bike
@@motobob sorry I meant XE not XC 😂 I pick it up this afternoon.
So would you say the new Street Twin sounds better?
Can you compare this to the current street twin? I'm thinking of getting a street twin because it fits me better but I'm afraid it doesn't have enough power and handling chops
would you upgrade from 2018 T120 to this bike? Please advise
The ultimate question and possibly future video idea? But which one of the three NightShift, Street Scrambler 900, or the Street Twin would you pick?
What other motorcycles do you consider a direct competitor of the Triumph Speed Twin?
Did you on purpose stop next to a GRiSO tag? Is that a not to Tim's greatest bike? :)