Actually, what this means is that MSkip assumed that Mr Simmons had the common sense to either figure it out, or ask MSkip for advise before posting this nonsense. Over 1000 units running without ONE incidence what is portrayed here makes this appear to be a blatant bias.
I work as a scuba dive and recently while in a zero vis river I felt something that felt like a prop, and a long shaft. I got pumped because I knew what I just touched. It was a 27 hp go devil on a sunken boat. Dove down with some tools took it off the boat and tossed it in mine….after 4 hernias. I just took the dude completely apart and rebuilt it and got it running. I just am waiting for a u joint to come in and on my boat she goes!
I added the clutch to my twister kit from mudskipper and am happy with it so far. Where I hunt it’s pretty tight so I think the twister/clutch combo really helps with getting in and about.
That's a good point, I didn't think about hunting up the trees and stumps getting in there tight. Picking up decoys having that low idle would help a lot too.
Thanks for the video! I like the clutch on my surface drive so well I was going to build on a clutch for long tail.... But now with your info it'd be much better just to buy one...I always wondered why nobody offered a clutch. Oh...I like to run limb lines so there's frequent stops... $185. Delivered
Awesome video that's the first I've ever saw the clutch on a long tail. As for the aluminum props, they do their job. They wear out and take the brunt of the abuse. If I don't hit a log or a stump with it to break it I wear them out in the gravel and the sand they are cheap and only take two minutes to replace.
I think it's a nifty thing, great for setting and picking up decoys, my buddy has a beavertail 40 surface drive and the momentary switch is pretty great, I may try one out.
that clutch is a cloned max torque so you should be able to play with different springs to adjust when it engages, one "hack" you can do is cut the stock spring, cut a coil bend the next down so you can hook it back into a ring an see how much slack it has you want it kinda snug, cutting more coils will slightly adjust engagment, so it engages at higher rpm but you can also get "perfomance" springs too just don't go to heavy of springs with a stock motor ......... ole red beard garage has video on it ............ anyway great to see you back on 👍
Thanks very much for the info. I have never messed with a clutch before. I may try cutting the springs down and seeing how that goes. Appreciate you watching and giving me some guidance. I was so lost installing this thing.
@@SendItJonBoats no problem Sir. they're pretty simple, every few runs you might wanna strip the clutch an lube it as it only runs on a bushing it's pretty simple just a few drops oil an she's all good again.......... here's red beards video from max torque (i'm a visual learner so seeing it helps 🙂 ) th-cam.com/video/gr6xQGnjYT8/w-d-xo.html
Added to our clutch playlist. We have installed three of them so far and all them engaged at 2k rpm wonder why yours was engaging so low? Good job on the torture test wondered how long it would last completely locked up. Good to know it can handle without destroying itself.
Dude, sucks you havt uploaded lately. You were one of my fovoritr mud motor channels to binge. You should just make some vlog style cruising and fishing videos
Thanks for the video! You just saved me a couple hundred dollars. I like the concept of a clutch on a mud motor but they need to work on the final product. My "Hillbilly Super Boat" couldn't get the RPMs low enough to disengage the clutch. It would literally be a 5" engine extension on my rig.
Cool video, what is the clutch for and does it come with a boat plug? If I need a clutch I'm probably somewhere I should be or doing something I shouldn't be doing , and I hope I remember to put the plug in. I like your videos and was wondering if you could do one on boat plugs and how to use them.
Maybe you need to add another shim because the clutch is too tight . Also , probably useless to my style , but I would love to see a reverse on a short tail mud motor that I can afford. The long tail just won’t turn in some spots and you have to pole backward
Great video! I am a dealer for mud skipper in Canada. I am ordering a couple of these clutches for 7hp and 16hp this week. Glad to see they fit other kits but I'm pretty sure they are supposed to stop 100 percent. @AZLONGTAILs has a video of this clutch and it stops fully. I wonder why your doesn't fully stop fully? keep up the good work bud!
I did, I was filming a separate speed test video at the same time. Speeds were no different than without the clutch. New video on that will be coming soon.
@@SendItJonBoats I’ve been thinking about getting one to replace my outboard they’re a little expensive so I wanted to see a review from somebody who knew what they were doing first
Great video! Just used my first mud motor today! I think I’ll buy a clutch kit, because I was definitely surprised at the speed at idle (12ft v-hull). Ideally, a very low speed or no movement at all would benefit me and where I launch/take-out. Also, my Predator 224 (the newer 6.5hp) cuts out when going from 3/4 or full throttle to idle. Could be I just need to break-in the motor, but I’ll probably mess with the idle screw and governor arm. Any suggestions are much appreciated!
I have not messed with the 224 yet, I would assume like any other Chinese knock off motor the carbs usually suck! I used to mess with them a little bit but now I just rip them off and get an aftermarket carb. I am going to try some of the cheap amazon carbs soon and see if any are worth a crap.
I know I’m late to the party and you probably have it figured out, but thought I’d offer some input. I experienced the same thing with my 670. Different animal, so it might not be applicable to your setup. I have to run an electric fuel pump if I want to run WOT. The stock pulse pump just can’t keep up, especially now that the motor is no longer stock and I’m running a Mikuni 34mm carb. On the smaller predator’s, I’m assuming the fuel is gravity fed, so it might be worth looking into some sort of external pump. On your application, an electric pump might be too much, so a pulse pump may work.
Would you tell us again the color code on the paint on the Jon boat in this video? I'm working on painting mine and I like the color you chose on this one...Do you have gator glide on the bottom? I was curious if they have a dark color to match the paint you used...As always great video !! Thanks
@@SendItJonBoats Ok thanks ..I'll Check out the next video on...I doubt I'll get to paint it anytime soon with with cold weather coming on here in KY ..Do you have any suggestions as to where to learn about prop size and pitch? Here is my problem ...I put a 65 hp Merc on a Jon boat..Ive never had it the water....the motor and prop combo came off a heavier shi boat ...I'm guessing the set up won't be much faster on my Jon boat even with it being might lighter .I think it will carry weight well but my thinking is the prop is like a rearends gear in a car ...in other words at a certain rpm that's as fast as it can go..So on a lighter boat it should mean it could take a prop that covers more area per rpm ....How can I Guage what pitch I have now? Is more pitch and bigger prop mean it pushes the boat forward more on each revolution? I know this is alot of confusing questions I hope you can help me with ...I don't see this subject talked about much on the boat channels....Just as long as I don't hear my question in the scooter comments lol....ok?
The question I ask you about props......I found a video on prop size and pitch ....I thought I would let you know that I had ansewered my own question so I sent this so you wouldn't have to waste time to answer my question...Thanks
Hey Chris. I know this isn’t probably the best place to ask this but since i’m here, why not? I’m getting a 35HP GTR in a few weeks for my 16’ 48” War Eagle. I was wanting to know if you could paint match the GTR to my war eagle. You could make a video on painting it if you wanted. I live relatively close to you and could bring it by if you can fit me in. Thanks in advance.
@@SendItJonBoats Jeez man take your time, I live in Madison, GA about 10-15 min west of lake oconee. I’m wanting to get it painted by you because you do the best work (that i’ve seen) in my area.
i've watched just about all of your videos and can't recall if you've taken the governor out of any of your mud motors. I've got a 13hp predator on a welded 1436 and would like to get a little more speed than 15-16mph. I've tried 3 different pro sizes with hardly any change. Any tips?
I have a video taking the governor out of a 670, but I have not filmed on for a 420 or any of the smaller motors. Planning on it, just havent done it yet. 16-20 is a common top speed range for a 1436, I know because I just did speed testing on this boat. My suggestion would be to get a better carb (Mikuni 34mm seems to be popular), air filter, better flowing exhaust, lash the valves, zip tie on the governor spring, and get a lot of time on the water moving the longtail around until you get it running the way you want. keep going down in prop size until you achieve your desired speed, but 16-20 is the range you are going to be shooting for in a welded hull because of the extra weight.
It would be a sad & lonely life without the scooters out there,we wouldn't have any brainless Di!!! to laugh at.just found your channel & subscribed,,keep the corny coming
Whats the smallest engine you would use on a long tail mud motor build Have a 6hp pressure washer that the pump went but motor is still strong. Is this worth the effort?
Harbor freight 6 hp moters are now about $130.... I have 3 mud moters,surface drive is a six ...long and short tail are 6.5.. All work well on a 12'' Jon boats
the little 6.5 hp from harbor freight is the smallest one I have ever run and it works good on small boat. It did work on my big boat but it was not very fast.
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If you have a lot of parts left over that just means you are more efficient than the engineers who designed it!
LMAO, you sir are a genius! LOL
Actually, what this means is that MSkip assumed that Mr Simmons had the common sense to either figure it out, or ask MSkip for advise before posting this nonsense. Over 1000 units running without ONE incidence what is portrayed here makes this appear to be a blatant bias.
I work as a scuba dive and recently while in a zero vis river I felt something that felt like a prop, and a long shaft. I got pumped because I knew what I just touched. It was a 27 hp go devil on a sunken boat. Dove down with some tools took it off the boat and tossed it in mine….after 4 hernias. I just took the dude completely apart and rebuilt it and got it running. I just am waiting for a u joint to come in and on my boat she goes!
Dude that is awesome you found a go devil. I would have done the same thing. I hope you get it running, those things are awesome.
I wouldve wanted the boat too
Sweet!!!!
Just found your channel. I love your videos and your humor.
I added the clutch to my twister kit from mudskipper and am happy with it so far. Where I hunt it’s pretty tight so I think the twister/clutch combo really helps with getting in and about.
That's a good point, I didn't think about hunting up the trees and stumps getting in there tight. Picking up decoys having that low idle would help a lot too.
Thanks for the video!
I like the clutch on my surface drive so well I was going to build on a clutch for long tail....
But now with your info it'd be much better just to buy one...I always wondered why nobody offered a clutch.
Oh...I like to run limb lines so there's frequent stops...
$185. Delivered
Limb lines would be a real good reason to run the clutch! It would help a lot. Thanks for watching the video.
Awesome video that's the first I've ever saw the clutch on a long tail. As for the aluminum props, they do their job. They wear out and take the brunt of the abuse. If I don't hit a log or a stump with it to break it I wear them out in the gravel and the sand they are cheap and only take two minutes to replace.
Finally!!!!! I’ve been waiting for the video for months lol, glad you finally had some time to get R done scooter !!!!
Yee Yee. Im back at it again finally. Got some cool stuff coming and lots of videos planned.
@@SendItJonBoats how’s the diy Harley mud motor build going ?
This is actually pretty neat. The longtail I get I'm going to have to install a clutch on. The lake that I boat in is absolutely full of stumps.
You will probably like it then, it is a cool little gizmo.
I think it's a nifty thing, great for setting and picking up decoys, my buddy has a beavertail 40 surface drive and the momentary switch is pretty great, I may try one out.
That's a great point, it would be really handy for picking up decoys.
that clutch is a cloned max torque so you should be able to play with different springs to adjust when it engages, one "hack" you can do is cut the stock spring, cut a coil bend the next down so you can hook it back into a ring an see how much slack it has you want it kinda snug, cutting more coils will slightly adjust engagment, so it engages at higher rpm but you can also get "perfomance" springs too just don't go to heavy of springs with a stock motor ......... ole red beard garage has video on it ............ anyway great to see you back on 👍
Thanks very much for the info. I have never messed with a clutch before. I may try cutting the springs down and seeing how that goes. Appreciate you watching and giving me some guidance. I was so lost installing this thing.
@@SendItJonBoats no problem Sir. they're pretty simple, every few runs you might wanna strip the clutch an lube it as it only runs on a bushing it's pretty simple just a few drops oil an she's all good again.......... here's red beards video from max torque (i'm a visual learner so seeing it helps 🙂 ) th-cam.com/video/gr6xQGnjYT8/w-d-xo.html
Don't know what to think of the clutch thing. Thanks for taking time for a video.
I think its cool, not necessarily needed but still cool.
Added to our clutch playlist. We have installed three of them so far and all them engaged at 2k rpm wonder why yours was engaging so low? Good job on the torture test wondered how long it would last completely locked up. Good to know it can handle without destroying itself.
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
Dude, sucks you havt uploaded lately. You were one of my fovoritr mud motor channels to binge. You should just make some vlog style cruising and fishing videos
I thought about doing blogs or fishing videos but I didn't think anyone would watch them. Maybe I will film one and see what happens.
Thanks for the video! You just saved me a couple hundred dollars. I like the concept of a clutch on a mud motor but they need to work on the final product. My "Hillbilly Super Boat" couldn't get the RPMs low enough to disengage the clutch. It would literally be a 5" engine extension on my rig.
Perhaps Mr Simmons should have contacted Mud-skipper before posting this?
@@caswellsubs Why? They contacted him and sent the product for review. He reviewed it and there ya go.
A new video? Well butter my butt, call me a biscuit, dig out the white lightin' and smack my grandma on the mouth! We sendin' it today boys!!!!!
LMAO! Yes sir I am back at it finally!
Cool video, what is the clutch for and does it come with a boat plug? If I need a clutch I'm probably somewhere I should be or doing something I shouldn't be doing , and I hope I remember to put the plug in. I like your videos and was wondering if you could do one on boat plugs and how to use them.
I'm already excited!!
Thanks Nathan, should be a good video. Got a new drone so we made some really cool shots.
What motor mount is that? Looks different from the kits you reviewed, I know the long tail is a beaver dam.
It's the mount that comes with the small Beaver Dam kit. It is different than the larger kits.
I would've gotten a Vanguard air cooled out board motor like the ones swamp people use when hunting gators.
If I had that kinda money I wouldn't be reviewing $100 mud motor clutches.
Maybe you need to add another shim because the clutch is too tight . Also , probably useless to my style , but I would love to see a reverse on a short tail mud motor that I can afford. The long tail just won’t turn in some spots and you have to pole backward
Great video! I am a dealer for mud skipper in Canada. I am ordering a couple of these clutches for 7hp and 16hp this week. Glad to see they fit other kits but I'm pretty sure they are supposed to stop 100 percent. @AZLONGTAILs has a video of this clutch and it stops fully. I wonder why your doesn't fully stop fully? keep up the good work bud!
You wonder why it doesn't stop? Operator error perhaps? Over 1000 sold and and no one else has the problem.
Likely it's a little oil or grease on the pads. it should wear off.
I wished you had GPS it without the Clutch and GPS it with the Clutch to see if any slippage at all.
I did, I was filming a separate speed test video at the same time. Speeds were no different than without the clutch. New video on that will be coming soon.
The hater corner sold me bro subscred
Can you do a video with some of the mudskipper surface drives?
Yeah when I can afford to buy one. I tried getting them to send me one for review, they were not interested.
@@SendItJonBoats I’ve been thinking about getting one to replace my outboard they’re a little expensive so I wanted to see a review from somebody who knew what they were doing first
Great video! Just used my first mud motor today! I think I’ll buy a clutch kit, because I was definitely surprised at the speed at idle (12ft v-hull). Ideally, a very low speed or no movement at all would benefit me and where I launch/take-out. Also, my Predator 224 (the newer 6.5hp) cuts out when going from 3/4 or full throttle to idle. Could be I just need to break-in the motor, but I’ll probably mess with the idle screw and governor arm. Any suggestions are much appreciated!
I have not messed with the 224 yet, I would assume like any other Chinese knock off motor the carbs usually suck! I used to mess with them a little bit but now I just rip them off and get an aftermarket carb. I am going to try some of the cheap amazon carbs soon and see if any are worth a crap.
I know I’m late to the party and you probably have it figured out, but thought I’d offer some input. I experienced the same thing with my 670. Different animal, so it might not be applicable to your setup. I have to run an electric fuel pump if I want to run WOT. The stock pulse pump just can’t keep up, especially now that the motor is no longer stock and I’m running a Mikuni 34mm carb. On the smaller predator’s, I’m assuming the fuel is gravity fed, so it might be worth looking into some sort of external pump. On your application, an electric pump might be too much, so a pulse pump may work.
"Since the bolts are metric you'll need a metric crescent wrench" LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I'd watch your vids just for your one liners.
Gotta watch out for them metric bolts, need to have the correct metric monkey wrench lol! Thanks for watching
That is just a metric adjustable hammer..
Seems like a blue moon since the last video! Checked Insta last weekend to see if the nope roaps had done you in.
Nope Ropes have been relocated, and I am alive. Time to get back to sending it!!!
Would you tell us again the color code on the paint on the Jon boat in this video? I'm working on painting mine and I like the color you chose on this one...Do you have gator glide on the bottom? I was curious if they have a dark color to match the paint you used...As always great video !! Thanks
There is no color code, this is all spray paint. It will be shown how I did it in the next video.
@@SendItJonBoats Ok thanks ..I'll Check out the next video on...I doubt I'll get to paint it anytime soon with with cold weather coming on here in KY ..Do you have any suggestions as to where to learn about prop size and pitch? Here is my problem ...I put a 65 hp Merc on a Jon boat..Ive never had it the water....the motor and prop combo came off a heavier shi boat ...I'm guessing the set up won't be much faster on my Jon boat even with it being might lighter .I think it will carry weight well but my thinking is the prop is like a rearends gear in a car ...in other words at a certain rpm that's as fast as it can go..So on a lighter boat it should mean it could take a prop that covers more area per rpm ....How can I Guage what pitch I have now? Is more pitch and bigger prop mean it pushes the boat forward more on each revolution? I know this is alot of confusing questions I hope you can help me with ...I don't see this subject talked about much on the boat channels....Just as long as I don't hear my question in the scooter comments lol....ok?
The question I ask you about props......I found a video on prop size and pitch ....I thought I would let you know that I had ansewered my own question so I sent this so you wouldn't have to waste time to answer my question...Thanks
Hey Chris. I know this isn’t probably the best place to ask this but since i’m here, why not? I’m getting a 35HP GTR in a few weeks for my 16’ 48” War Eagle. I was wanting to know if you could paint match the GTR to my war eagle. You could make a video on painting it if you wanted. I live relatively close to you and could bring it by if you can fit me in. Thanks in advance.
I wish I could but I am currently closed on painting and hydro dipping for a while. Having to move and opening the boat shop has been a nightmare.
@@SendItJonBoats Jeez man take your time, I live in Madison, GA about 10-15 min west of lake oconee. I’m wanting to get it painted by you because you do the best work (that i’ve seen) in my area.
Awesome your great keep it going
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the video.
i've watched just about all of your videos and can't recall if you've taken the governor out of any of your mud motors. I've got a 13hp predator on a welded 1436 and would like to get a little more speed than 15-16mph. I've tried 3 different pro sizes with hardly any change. Any tips?
I have a video taking the governor out of a 670, but I have not filmed on for a 420 or any of the smaller motors. Planning on it, just havent done it yet. 16-20 is a common top speed range for a 1436, I know because I just did speed testing on this boat. My suggestion would be to get a better carb (Mikuni 34mm seems to be popular), air filter, better flowing exhaust, lash the valves, zip tie on the governor spring, and get a lot of time on the water moving the longtail around until you get it running the way you want. keep going down in prop size until you achieve your desired speed, but 16-20 is the range you are going to be shooting for in a welded hull because of the extra weight.
Do you notice and clutch knocking on yours? Mine sounds like a rod knock. Gonna have to pull it back apart, and shim it off the pto side more
I ended up rebuilding my retriever clutch with a real Max-torque clutch and its holding up much better. And it doesn't care about all the extra power
Okay, we have a factory product this long tail motor kit
It would be a sad & lonely life without the scooters out there,we wouldn't have any brainless Di!!! to laugh at.just found your channel & subscribed,,keep the corny coming
I need that prop to be spinning all the time can't get stuck that way
Very true. it's a cool gizmo but I like it better without it
Do they work on the twisters mud motor
It's not smoking or on fire......so Send It! 😆
Exactly... full send baby.
Whats the smallest engine you would use on a long tail mud motor build Have a 6hp pressure washer that the pump went but motor is still strong. Is this worth the effort?
Harbor freight 6 hp moters are now about $130....
I have 3 mud moters,surface drive is a six ...long and short tail are 6.5..
All work well on a 12'' Jon boats
the little 6.5 hp from harbor freight is the smallest one I have ever run and it works good on small boat. It did work on my big boat but it was not very fast.
Get it bro.
LOL Thanks bud!
HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES.
Great video love how you put shit to the test
Somebody gotta do real world testing. Might as well be me!
Donde consigo un kit de estos
Mudskipper.
Are you sure those bolts aren’t 7/16 or 9/16 🤷♂️😎
Looked like metric to me.
@@SendItJonBoats we don’t have metric tape measures in America
Send it!
Yee Yee! Thanks for watching
awesome
Donde venden ese embrague
Mannnnnn I just lost my metric crescent wrench can I use my standard crescent wrench on this?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Qual o preço do conjunto e onde posso comprar e vc envia para o brasil
I do not know if anyone ships to Brazil. You will have to contact Mudskipper and ask them
How much does it cost $
That's what she said, that's what she said
Ill be surpeised if no one has asked .. How about a torque converter??!
Ha every car made in the USA has been metric since 1980.
Metric crescent wrench 😂💀
theres no reason to have a clutch on a long tail . lift the prop out of the water = neutral.
I know thats how I felt, then I got a little more used to it and it wasn't so awkward.
No point for a clutch on this type machine
Just another part to break
Sorry I a downer
Facts is facts
thats why I tried it out, to see if I liked it or not.