Keep in mind that we designed this primarily for the commercial market. We understand there are tons of airbikes out there, but durability is really an issue with this product in the commercial space where it gets used aggressively over and over. We worked directly with a large commercial chain to meet their needs for this product. #dontquitever
Anything with a computer screen is too much lol. Bars, steel, and a select few machines will always be my preference. I hope most people feel that way too.
I agree, until we get to the point where longevity and reliability are near the same. Tonal seems like a great light option but other than weight/movement limitations, it's just a matter of time before a better option comes out. Too much tech that can fail as well, taking down the entire system. And... resale isn't going to be easy ever, and probably depreciated greatly vs. iron as the technology ages.
Conceptually very cool. Price wise too impractical for most people, also there is something that feels more human about moving big heavy things up and down that I think I'd miss with something like this
The first equipment(arx) is bs. It force you to do 2-3 reps with a lot of pressure when the key is to do more reps with constant tension.dont overcomplicate it. Modern equipment but without any screnn is the way
I worked as a trainer for ARX back in its early days! There is nothing that compares to how much muscle fatigue it makes. It has a ton of rehab potential as well. We would have clients who couldn’t perform the free weight version of a movement but could completely pain free do the same motion on the ARX. Glad to see the boys getting some notice! Thanks coop!
I can understand the value for rehab, since the subject can exert as little effort as is comfortable. As far as the deeper fatigue for strength/muscle training, is that necessarily better? When one trains to failure on MedX, they can no longer move the set weight; call that '100'. ARX allows the subject to keep working at '99' to '0'; there's no such thing as failure, (unless one's insane enough to not be able to move AT ALL). I'd think this'd require more days off than usual, thus negating the effect of the deeper fatigue. There's also the matter of functioning in 'real life' after the workout. Deeper fatigue than what's done with MedX could have a negative effect on work & recreation.
@@shadygaming6523 I take a nap after a heavy "BigFive" to failure@90-120 seconds + assisted extensions, SuperSlow on MedX, & can't handle another full-intensity session for a week. When I did 90 second sets on ARX "Big Three" SuperSlow, I needed more than a week to do it again. MedX's effect on fast twitch muscle@90seconds to failure is comparable to ARX's@20 seconds.
I used to work at NASA and we had a similar test to the ARX system we had test subjects preform all the way down to the computer system that monitored the progress. The only difference was it was a flat bench w bar and this was way back in the mid/late 2000s. Crazy how they always find a way to adapt the technology to the general public
@@lukehobbs3177 I can’t speak on what they have at the ISS but we did use the technology to monitor the strength of research participants prior to, during and after completion of our studies
@@tomhearns4770 ARX drags you through the negative, and tracks your strength progress. However, push-ups, if properly performed (slow, controlled motions to deep inroading, and no rep-counting), can substitute nicely for an ARX chest press.
@@GarageGymReviews I can’t decide between a rogue sml-1 or a rep pr 1100, I like the functionality of a rack but I don’t know if the quality will be as good.
@@GarageGymReviews Cooper, another great video. How does the torque air bike compare to other air bikes like the rogue echo and assault bike? Thank you in advance.
I think it just moves at a certain pace no matter how hard you push, and then it measures the force you produce so you know what you are doing, and have stats to analyze and stuff. But I think you could totally barely push if you wanted to skimp on your training. Getting the weight up or seeing the graph go higher is pretty different, not sure what I'd prefer as motivation
@@frydac 1/Yes, you can slack-off. How it actually happens: You're pushing as hard as you can, working harder than ever before in your life, so you figure it's ok to back-off a little mid-3rd rep. BUT THEN, you see a dip in your effort on the monitor, & make a point to never let it happen again.2/The difference between the weight & the graph: Your exhibited strength at the ARX leg press's extension is going to be *at least twice* what you've *ever* lifted. . Why not challenge your true potential?
Love this simply because most people I've ever seen in a gym or online never control the Eccentric portion of their movements. I think it's such an important area to focus on, and the ARX machine doubles down on it!! You can't cheat or slack. You have great eccentrics on every rep with good ROM too!
You *can* slack. You can't cheat on the speed, but you can back-off your effort as much you choose. Those who prefer ARX prefer hard work. Slackers quit ARX after one session
I really hope there's a part 2 to this video, this seems like the ideal playground for more great videos. Even the machines, collars, etc. you were just briefly showing in the transitions looked like they could have an entire video on their own!
The virtue of ARX can also be a downside: Accommodating resistance allows the user to finish a set, no matter how little strength they have left; IE: there is no failure. The user has gone past what'd be failure w/an objective resistance. Thus, over-training's a possibility.
Coop! You should get a booth the same dimensions as a two car garage and show the world what you could fit inside and achieve in the world of garage gyms!
Ya with you 100%. So much of technology nowadays is completely unnecessary. Its a gimmick in the fitness game. Because when shit starts breaking down then the makers will earn more by sending out people to fix shit. Unless the machine is making you immortal or something i dont see what you’re getting back for your $40 G’s
@Patrick N exactly. Besides imagine all the equipment you could buy for 45k. You would have one serious gym and i also dont want to feel like i need a computer science degree just to turn a machine on to do a workout 😂
Isokinetics have been used mainly in research for quite a few years. I could see this used in a clinical setting in a cool way. A good way to objective data and train patients the most efficient way
The definition of isokinetics, speed-based resistance, is too broad to account for the developments in its technology. Early isokinetics required the subject to move quickly to register effort; the faster one moved, the higher the effort. A moderate, not-all-that-slow rep wouldn't turn the machine on. Modern isokinetic machines use large motors, w/power to hold a constant speed that can't be overcome by any human. The attempt to speed the positive rep, & stop the negative, along w/a computerized monitor, allows the subject,(if they put forth their full effort), to see their available strength throughout every inch of every rep. The strength one has when near extension, (positive & negative), on the first rep of an ARX leg press is astounding, possible NO other way.
I think we all learned this when Rocky beat Drago. The tech is cool especially for athletes to see the output they are producing for science purposes. -Mike, GGR Community Manager
I don’t think so bro there was more resistance on the concentric than eccentric and it was “adaptive” throughout whereas with a band the concentric resistance will mirror the eccentric resistance and it will increase the farther away you go
The ARX concept is REALLY, REALLY interesting to me. I mean, I'm that one guy who loves the "old school, raw lifting in a rusty garage" idea of training, but I can see that this machine is bringing something new, functional and that you can't achieve in any conventional way. I mean, I came into this video expecting (respectfully) a bunch of "optimal" crap that only works in very specific scenarios. But that machine impressed me, I can see it making it's way into training if they manage to get down the price to a reasonable point.
Coop, great video BUT I want to see everything you guys recorded. I'm sure the editing wont be as sleek but I still would love to see everything you tried out or even looked at.
Coop @8:30 when you’re riding that bike. Behind you is the med ball storage and pull up station. You know if that’s available or what it’s called. THATS something I would want for my home gym. Thanks. Happy holidays
Coop! Do you think you could put on/ organize a home gym event like this on your own? Or maybe have a home gym yearly awards in the future? Awards could be most innovative product, best cardio equipment, best strength and on and on. Anyways do what you do it's great stuff keep up the great work sir.
Affordable ARX: 1/A version of the original machine, w/an ipad instead of a dedicated ARX monitor. 2/Replace levers w/a single floor cable, (the entire unit resembling the 'deadlift' cable on the Omni). 3/A smaller motor's probably more than enough for home. $14-17K.
the cowboys have a room of this kinda tech; it's enough to make you drool always get the reps in, able to train the stronger portions of the motion in the same stroke as the weaker, able to safely accelerate rehab, the list goes on...
Rope equipment driven by servo motor is definitely the future trend. It can optimize the best force curve for individuals. And you can accurately measure your performance. At the same time, It can be easily integrated with other IT systems with built-in AI algorithms.
I'm a free weights kinda guy but I have to say that some of these machines are definitely sick. I'd love to try to arx but doubt that at the current price point any average gymbro is going to buy it. The oxefit all rounder is definitely my favorite out of them all. Expensive but great addition to any high-tech gymgoers gym. Doubt we'll se much of it in commercial gyms though
1:25 "So it's you verses a machine, a motor." It's you verses gearing. The motor makes it dynamic, but the gearing provides most of the resistance (or force, in the case of a negative rep).
I think people are going to get caught up in “technology lifting” in the future and always try to find a easy way out which lead to a decrease in good looking muscle and strength, barbells and dumbbells with compound movements will always be superior because of how they make you stabilize other smaller muscle groups. All of these high tech lifting machines and isolated movements.
It would be interesting to see a top level professional strongman or powerlifter try that ARX machine to see if it can truly give back everything someone can give it.
You mean is anyone strong enough to break the motor &/or drive mechanism. I doubt it; obviously there are available motors that are stronger than any human. If ARX doesn't already have such a motor, they could install one. QUESTION: Why hasn't the likes of Brian Shaw already tried ARX? Who knows? It could be the "secret weapon" that gives him the 5th WSM trophy he's been chasing for years.
I know in the future I'm going to be torn between my love for weights and some of the new computer controlled cable machines. When they build one that integrates with my rack and doesn't have a monthly subscription, I'm in.
Does anyone know where I could find something similar to the pull-up bar/shelf in the background at 8:50? Looking for some improvements to my home gym.
Tensile strength has 0 to do with how much a bar will bend which is determined by cross section and Young's modulus. Young's modulus is basically the same for all steel.
@@GarageGymReviews it was insane. I haven’t been that sore in a very long time. This gym had a bunch of different equipment though. They had a separate machine for chest press, flues, lat pulldown leg press, everything. I can definitely see the application for this in the future but it won’t be implemented that widely until it becomes more affordable.
It’s be more meaningful to say that ARX moves , very slowly, with 10,000 lbs of force, and the computer monitors how much of that you ADD on the positive rep, and SUBTRACT from the negative.
You can make a home version of ARX with an electric hoist/winch and a crane scale to measure the tension. I’ve made one at it’s simplest form with a 2000kg force hoist. I push against it as hard as I can and it will “match” my force. Apart from the fancy force graph, there’s nothing special about the ARX.
Most people dont know how to make it and i would trust machine made by a company more than DIY project. Im not saying that your project is useless, more like ARX isnt useless
Mentioning Tonal, (or any other piece), in the same breath as ARX, is SO wrong. There's NO comparison. ARX doesn't merely accentuate the negative; it accounts for every inch of variation in the user's available strength, positive & negative, first rep to last
An Olympic barbell, calibrated metal plates (my preference), an adjustable bench and a power rack is all that you need to build strength. Chase strength, aesthetics will follow suit. Don't need fancy equipments and technology
@@craigjomaia I think you misunderstood what I said. I didn't said you don't need anything. I said you NEEDED an Olympic barbell and some free weights. The same could be said about cars and shoes. You can get the work done in $30 shoes and a second hand Toyota too. You don't need fancy shoes like Air Jordans and fancy cars like Lamborghini
Seen something similar to first machine you used From 80's where it used rubber bands and of course the electric machines where you could use more resistance by pressing a button and using the opposite button into have less resistance As for air bike in UK we had multi handles for a long but something new I've seen is that they have gears like a bike plus the other resistance you can use for the fan
Tried the ark at a higher end boutique gym before. Definitely a different experience. It's an extreme experience with the way it works. But even if it was more affordable for in home use, its not something I'd want to use on a regular basis for a workout. It really wasn't an enjoyable experience. Didn't really give the satisfaction after a workout like regular old iron
They had electricronic machines like this with the positive / negatives 20 years ago at a Bally's gym. They didn't have screens and were alot smaller. They were amazing because the negative is almost impossible to do without help. The gym got rid of them because they broke too often.
People think 80k is a lot but if it does provide resistance no matter your strength and allows you to exercise everything that is still cheaper than buying a proper at home gym though that is if you are again aiming for a proper one and not a grab the cheapest thing then need to buy more stuff later gym.
No surprise that they are insanely expensive. It's a go to market strategy - target the luxury/high end commercial market with your gimmick product (that will be used far less than a barbell) and make a high margin on a low volume. It's also the kind of strategy that dies when the funding drys up. Unless they have other product lines I could see these things being out of production in 5 more years.
@@apeekintime it all depends on the scaling really, whether the price of production for this type of machine drops fast enough for either competitors to make it to market or for these guys to saturate the luxury market and start having to drop price to stay profitable
You didn't mention one of the biggest selling points of the ARX--they market it as a way to only have to work out for 15 minutes a week (total including rest time) and still make consistent progress in strength gains. You should have asked the guy about his workout routine, I've heard him discuss it and it's insane how little time he spends working out.
ARX had a Chicago showroom-training facility. Long gone. 1xwk, 90sec sets, (ie, 3 slow reps), x 3 exercises: chest press, pulldown, leg press. 4.5 minutes of work. Cooked, done. If I'd done 2xwk, fatigue would've impacted my effort c30%. If ARX had stayed in Chicago, I'd do 1x2wks by now.
ARX is similar to metered isometrics, (iso-chain, 1RepGym...); you push/pull as hard as you can, against an immovable object, & the meter tells you how hard you pushed or pulled. The big difference: The object that YOU can't move, moves on its OWN, so you can work full range, for reps, & get readings for every inch of every rep, positive & negative. /// I have 2 questions: 1/With recent studies showing that isometrics, DO, in fact, strengthen the entire muscle, is movement really necessary? 2/If a subject exerts full effort through a set, isn't there a good chance of over-training? I'd think 1 rep'd be best, but this isn't what ARX is recommending.
THey market it such that they say you would need a very small amount of time on the machine to get strength gains - I believe 15 min/week/muscle group including rest
@@youareaspook5897 1min press+1min pull+1min leg press is plenty. A subject who wants max cardio benefit could finish in 5 min. Also, for those who prefer to work 2or3xWk; it's not a bad idea to do only 1 exercise per session.
hey Coop im looking for a milatary press/squat rack like they had at my old 24 hour fitness. the olympic bar could be rotated and "claws" would grab the pegs and lockout the weight. the bar traveled up and down along a rail on each side. do you have any idea what this is called and who manufactures them? anyone else know? tyvm much appreciated
I’ve used these before. Felt super unnatural. You really can’t beat the feeling of lifting actual weight. Those static holds get boring ssuupperrr fast. I’d hate to have that be my way of lifting weights.
I agree. "My line on the screen went higher!" is nothing compared to "I justed added another plate to the barbell". And there's no failure. I hate missing reps, it really sucks, but that motivates me to make it. No risk, no reward. No sane person wants to fight a machine that's going to let you win every time.
I don't know Coop I am not all about the tech stuff you have been reviewing lately. There is just something about battling the steel that no machine can replace
I do wonder what would happen with these smart machines in the middle of a press if say the power went out. Maintenance is also something I'd wonder about, updates to software, etc. Too many moving parts = more things to break. Until this gets further developed, which it will; bumpers, bars, and DBs/KBs reign supreme.
"the market doesn't need another air bike, it needs a better air bike" so they made another air bike. genius.
it's better though
@@eldragon4076 not really
lol
Keep in mind that we designed this primarily for the commercial market. We understand there are tons of airbikes out there, but durability is really an issue with this product in the commercial space where it gets used aggressively over and over. We worked directly with a large commercial chain to meet their needs for this product. #dontquitever
@@TorqueFitness I like the idea of building a more durable bike for the commercial markets, it just dosent bring anything new not that it’s a problem
Anything with a computer screen is too much lol. Bars, steel, and a select few machines will always be my preference. I hope most people feel that way too.
depends, there was that wall mounted "Tonal" thing, its a good one for when you don't have much space.
I agree but we probably won't feel that way in decades from now
I agree, until we get to the point where longevity and reliability are near the same. Tonal seems like a great light option but other than weight/movement limitations, it's just a matter of time before a better option comes out. Too much tech that can fail as well, taking down the entire system. And... resale isn't going to be easy ever, and probably depreciated greatly vs. iron as the technology ages.
Depends.
Everyone eventually gets banged up the conventional way, this could be better in that respect.
I'll always love steel, but I can see a lot of this tech being useful for athletes/coaches that want to track performance closely.
Conceptually very cool.
Price wise too impractical for most people, also there is something that feels more human about moving big heavy things up and down that I think I'd miss with something like this
I’d say impractical for all people, lol. I can see the famous actors and athletes with garage gyms putting these in there, that’s about it.
It's new, price will drop, in 10 years it'll probably be 4.5K, in 20 probably 1K
Price wise is stupid
@@toreyarlotti6244 unless you're making over 500K a year, this thing is beyond anyones price range lol
The first equipment(arx) is bs. It force you to do 2-3 reps with a lot of pressure when the key is to do more reps with constant tension.dont overcomplicate it. Modern equipment but without any screnn is the way
Props to this guy for grabbing the mic to continue the interview. Well handled
HUH?
I worked as a trainer for ARX back in its early days! There is nothing that compares to how much muscle fatigue it makes. It has a ton of rehab potential as well. We would have clients who couldn’t perform the free weight version of a movement but could completely pain free do the same motion on the ARX. Glad to see the boys getting some notice! Thanks coop!
How about w pre surgery carpal tunnel?
I can understand the value for rehab, since the subject can exert as little effort as is comfortable. As far as the deeper fatigue for strength/muscle training, is that necessarily better? When one trains to failure on MedX, they can no longer move the set weight; call that '100'. ARX allows the subject to keep working at '99' to '0'; there's no such thing as failure, (unless one's insane enough to not be able to move AT ALL). I'd think this'd require more days off than usual, thus negating the effect of the deeper fatigue. There's also the matter of functioning in 'real life' after the workout. Deeper fatigue than what's done with MedX could have a negative effect on work & recreation.
@@lazur1 workout at night then, which is the best time to workout, go right to sleep after a heavy protein meal
@@shadygaming6523 I take a nap after a heavy "BigFive" to failure@90-120 seconds + assisted extensions, SuperSlow on MedX, & can't handle another full-intensity session for a week. When I did 90 second sets on ARX "Big Three" SuperSlow, I needed more than a week to do it again. MedX's effect on fast twitch muscle@90seconds to failure is comparable to ARX's@20 seconds.
@@lazur1 thanx for the info, it seems like a fun machine
Rusty is the man.
I used to work at NASA and we had a similar test to the ARX system we had test subjects preform all the way down to the computer system that monitored the progress. The only difference was it was a flat bench w bar and this was way back in the mid/late 2000s. Crazy how they always find a way to adapt the technology to the general public
Lol sure u did.
@@letsgobrandon7321 Nothing to lie about, worked there 10 years w my childhood best friend. you got ig?
They use those on the space station because they can’t use weights for resistance because no gravity correct?
@@lukehobbs3177 I can’t speak on what they have at the ISS but we did use the technology to monitor the strength of research participants prior to, during and after completion of our studies
@@letsgobrandon7321 You Jealous?
“If you are nervous…no need to be” golden advice!
As home gym owners, we should probably wait for the $2,000 Titan Fitness version of ARX 🤣
You laugh, but eventually that will be the truth
Why not just do a pushup
@@tomhearns4770 You can do much more than what a pushup can do on that machine
@@avinashtyagi2 I'm not doing exercises sitting down, I'm not at Planet Fitness. Far rather do actual exercises that cross over into real life.
@@tomhearns4770 ARX drags you through the negative, and tracks your strength progress. However, push-ups, if properly performed (slow, controlled motions to deep inroading, and no rep-counting), can substitute nicely for an ARX chest press.
Coop “relaxing his face” on the ARX… 😂
😂😂😂 That was a deadlift face if I've ever seen one, doing chest press. -Mike, GGE Community Manager
@@GarageGymReviews I can’t decide between a rogue sml-1 or a rep pr 1100, I like the functionality of a rack but I don’t know if the quality will be as good.
Sara hello 👋
@@GarageGymReviews Cooper, another great video.
How does the torque air bike compare to other air bikes like the rogue echo and assault bike? Thank you in advance.
Arx is insane. It forces you to use the most effort for the entire rep. That’s genius
I think it just moves at a certain pace no matter how hard you push, and then it measures the force you produce so you know what you are doing, and have stats to analyze and stuff.
But I think you could totally barely push if you wanted to skimp on your training.
Getting the weight up or seeing the graph go higher is pretty different, not sure what I'd prefer as motivation
@@frydac 1/Yes, you can slack-off. How it actually happens: You're pushing as hard as you can, working harder than ever before in your life, so you figure it's ok to back-off a little mid-3rd rep. BUT THEN, you see a dip in your effort on the monitor, & make a point to never let it happen again.2/The difference between the weight & the graph: Your exhibited strength at the ARX leg press's extension is going to be *at least twice* what you've *ever* lifted. . Why not challenge your true potential?
Love this simply because most people I've ever seen in a gym or online never control the Eccentric portion of their movements.
I think it's such an important area to focus on, and the ARX machine doubles down on it!! You can't cheat or slack. You have great eccentrics on every rep with good ROM too!
You *can* slack. You can't cheat on the speed, but you can back-off your effort as much you choose. Those who prefer ARX prefer hard work. Slackers quit ARX after one session
I could definitely see professional teams buying this equipment
I really hope there's a part 2 to this video, this seems like the ideal playground for more great videos. Even the machines, collars, etc. you were just briefly showing in the transitions looked like they could have an entire video on their own!
Love seeing Coop in his Disney!
He really was in his Disney World. I can't say I blame him though, there was some awesome stuff there. -Mike, GGR Community Manager
9:28 That's an excellent idea. I use to drag or to push weights against the floor but this device looks amazing.
10:09
@@brucele2776 yeah I have seen that haha
Great video Coop! Though I do wish commercial gyms would just add more racks and platforms instead of all those super fancy machines.
The virtue of ARX can also be a downside: Accommodating resistance allows the user to finish a set, no matter how little strength they have left; IE: there is no failure. The user has gone past what'd be failure w/an objective resistance. Thus, over-training's a possibility.
Coop! You should get a booth the same dimensions as a two car garage and show the world what you could fit inside and achieve in the world of garage gyms!
I love this idea! Coop would be able to put on a good display. -Mike, GGR Community Manager
i know its going that way..but less tech,electronics in gym equipment is how ill keep going. Over complicating things is what humans do best.
It's easy to make something complicated. Look at the Swiss and Germans. But making something simple is difficult.
Ya with you 100%. So much of technology nowadays is completely unnecessary. Its a gimmick in the fitness game. Because when shit starts breaking down then the makers will earn more by sending out people to fix shit. Unless the machine is making you immortal or something i dont see what you’re getting back for your $40 G’s
@@toomuch9762 only company that has sensible replacement parts is concept! They charge u pennies for new bearings and bolts
@@girlsdrinkfeck ya and their machines are proven. I just got a concept 2 rower and it is 👌. Cant believe i questioned getting it now that i have it
@Patrick N exactly. Besides imagine all the equipment you could buy for 45k. You would have one serious gym and i also dont want to feel like i need a computer science degree just to turn a machine on to do a workout 😂
Isokinetics have been used mainly in research for quite a few years. I could see this used in a clinical setting in a cool way. A good way to objective data and train patients the most efficient way
The definition of isokinetics, speed-based resistance, is too broad to account for the developments in its technology. Early isokinetics required the subject to move quickly to register effort; the faster one moved, the higher the effort. A moderate, not-all-that-slow rep wouldn't turn the machine on. Modern isokinetic machines use large motors, w/power to hold a constant speed that can't be overcome by any human. The attempt to speed the positive rep, & stop the negative, along w/a computerized monitor, allows the subject,(if they put forth their full effort), to see their available strength throughout every inch of every rep. The strength one has when near extension, (positive & negative), on the first rep of an ARX leg press is astounding, possible NO other way.
This is absolutely insane. I'll have one in 3 years or less
A lot of cool 'stuff' - but nothing will replace a quality barbell / bench / rack / plates for getting strong
I think we all learned this when Rocky beat Drago. The tech is cool especially for athletes to see the output they are producing for science purposes. -Mike, GGR Community Manager
It would seem you could more or less mimic the ARX with a pair of $30 isometric training straps... Overcoming isometrics is no joke!
I don’t think so bro there was more resistance on the concentric than eccentric and it was “adaptive” throughout whereas with a band the concentric resistance will mirror the eccentric resistance and it will increase the farther away you go
Totally different.
Not even close
"...impossible to describe until youre on it" you are exactly correct ser!
9:15 someone did their homework and came prepared 💪😄!. I love a good salesperson. I'm sure she watched every video from coop with similar equipment.
We always come prepared! 😀
The ARX concept is REALLY, REALLY interesting to me. I mean, I'm that one guy who loves the "old school, raw lifting in a rusty garage" idea of training, but I can see that this machine is bringing something new, functional and that you can't achieve in any conventional way.
I mean, I came into this video expecting (respectfully) a bunch of "optimal" crap that only works in very specific scenarios. But that machine impressed me, I can see it making it's way into training if they manage to get down the price to a reasonable point.
Great job, especially for people like me, from far away (Romania), to see what is new in fitness industry. Keep going!
Te pup
I love Romanians! You guys make great headphones
Coop, great video BUT I want to see everything you guys recorded. I'm sure the editing wont be as sleek but I still would love to see everything you tried out or even looked at.
Coop @8:30 when you’re riding that bike. Behind you is the med ball storage and pull up station. You know if that’s available or what it’s called. THATS something I would want for my home gym. Thanks. Happy holidays
Thanks mate. Thanks to you we have got the chance to see how this high tech equipment looks like. Thank you. Amazing video
Coop! Do you think you could put on/ organize a home gym event like this on your own? Or maybe have a home gym yearly awards in the future? Awards could be most innovative product, best cardio equipment, best strength and on and on. Anyways do what you do it's great stuff keep up the great work sir.
Affordable ARX: 1/A version of the original machine, w/an ipad instead of a dedicated ARX monitor. 2/Replace levers w/a single floor cable, (the entire unit resembling the 'deadlift' cable on the Omni). 3/A smaller motor's probably more than enough for home. $14-17K.
the cowboys have a room of this kinda tech; it's enough to make you drool
always get the reps in, able to train the stronger portions of the motion in the same stroke as the weaker, able to safely accelerate rehab, the list goes on...
And zeke still can't stop eating
1:08 Mike with the sunglasses inside look🤣🤣
Thanks Coop for another great video. Always look forward to watching them 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Coop asked about resistance on the sled-
Coop- what’s the resistance increase?
Lady- 25%
Coop - so 20%
🤷🏻♂️
Also, calling Rusty "Mike" almost immediately haha
I like the fact u coverage new tech in gym . Gym show exibit 👍 thankx
Cheers for the content.
I seldom see TH-cam, Fitness creators, show the industrial part of the industry.
Happy holidays and all the best.
Rope equipment driven by servo motor is definitely the future trend. It can optimize the best force curve for individuals. And you can accurately measure your performance. At the same time, It can be easily integrated with other IT systems with built-in AI algorithms.
I'm a free weights kinda guy but I have to say that some of these machines are definitely sick. I'd love to try to arx but doubt that at the current price point any average gymbro is going to buy it. The oxefit all rounder is definitely my favorite out of them all. Expensive but great addition to any high-tech gymgoers gym. Doubt we'll se much of it in commercial gyms though
1:25 "So it's you verses a machine, a motor." It's you verses gearing. The motor makes it dynamic, but the gearing provides most of the resistance (or force, in the case of a negative rep).
Coop had to sleep for a week after doing a months worth of reps in two days, plus Sam takes one for the team! 😆
I could see the ARX being very useful for people doing PT or recovering from an injury
Hey Coop, did you by chance get to try the Rep Ares cable systems? Really looking forward for it to come out
THIS. This is what I’m most excited for!
Hoping it can replace a full functional trainer
I think people are going to get caught up in “technology lifting” in the future and always try to find a easy way out which lead to a decrease in good looking muscle and strength, barbells and dumbbells with compound movements will always be superior because of how they make you stabilize other smaller muscle groups. All of these high tech lifting machines and isolated movements.
It would be interesting to see a top level professional strongman or powerlifter try that ARX machine to see if it can truly give back everything someone can give it.
Hmmm probs how they did it already no?
You mean is anyone strong enough to break the motor &/or drive mechanism. I doubt it; obviously there are available motors that are stronger than any human. If ARX doesn't already have such a motor, they could install one. QUESTION: Why hasn't the likes of Brian Shaw already tried ARX? Who knows? It could be the "secret weapon" that gives him the 5th WSM trophy he's been chasing for years.
Now that's better, hahah. Nice one, lads! Props to the editors!
I know in the future I'm going to be torn between my love for weights and some of the new computer controlled cable machines. When they build one that integrates with my rack and doesn't have a monthly subscription, I'm in.
If you use a bar of weight you still have same resistance if you press it up or down I see the cables as wobble it a rip off
Does anyone know where I could find something similar to the pull-up bar/shelf in the background at 8:50? Looking for some improvements to my home gym.
Tensile strength has 0 to do with how much a bar will bend which is determined by cross section and Young's modulus. Young's modulus is basically the same for all steel.
That first machine is really good !!!
I’ve worked out on equipment like this before. It was at a gym called “the exercise coach”. I think equipment is called exerbotics
How was it using a piece like the ARX? -Mike, GGR Community Manager
@@GarageGymReviews it was insane. I haven’t been that sore in a very long time. This gym had a bunch of different equipment though. They had a separate machine for chest press, flues, lat pulldown leg press, everything. I can definitely see the application for this in the future but it won’t be implemented that widely until it becomes more affordable.
@@MattWakim yeah its not necessary but it can completely control your workout and log progress, no thinking required you just put in the effort
Coop first time seeing the bike... knows more than the lady showing it.
Any plans to look at / review the Vituvian trainer + or speediance all in one once they are released?
It’s be more meaningful to say that ARX moves , very slowly, with 10,000 lbs of force, and the computer monitors how much of that you ADD on the positive rep, and SUBTRACT from the negative.
That adaptive machine looks amazing
You can make a home version of ARX with an electric hoist/winch and a crane scale to measure the tension. I’ve made one at it’s simplest form with a 2000kg force hoist. I push against it as hard as I can and it will “match” my force. Apart from the fancy force graph, there’s nothing special about the ARX.
Most people dont know how to make it and i would trust machine made by a company more than DIY project. Im not saying that your project is useless, more like ARX isnt useless
@@viiltelijamurhaaja7225 Totally agree ARX isn't useless. In fact, I would love to own one. However, the price point is way out of any personal gym.
Mentioning Tonal, (or any other piece), in the same breath as ARX, is SO wrong. There's NO comparison. ARX doesn't merely accentuate the negative; it accounts for every inch of variation in the user's available strength, positive & negative, first rep to last
An Olympic barbell, calibrated metal plates (my preference), an adjustable bench and a power rack is all that you need to build strength. Chase strength, aesthetics will follow suit. Don't need fancy equipments and technology
You don't NEED running shoes to run or a car to get to work either but they can certainly help.
@@craigjomaia I think you misunderstood what I said. I didn't said you don't need anything. I said you NEEDED an Olympic barbell and some free weights. The same could be said about cars and shoes. You can get the work done in $30 shoes and a second hand Toyota too. You don't need fancy shoes like Air Jordans and fancy cars like Lamborghini
Those sleds are sick. Definitely want one in the future.
Seen something similar to first machine you used
From 80's where it used rubber bands
and of course the electric machines where you could use more resistance by pressing a button and using the opposite button into have less resistance
As for air bike in UK we had multi handles for a long but something new I've seen is that they have gears like a bike plus the other resistance you can use for the fan
Are you referring to the Keiser machines? They have a plus a minus button to alter the resistance in the middle of a set. They're great machines too.
Arx is the future, 100% to failure in each direction. People need to hack a cheap home cable gym and add a motor to it instead of a weight set.
I dont think it will replace traditional weights.
16:00 I honestly think these will be the future of commercial gyms, Tonal, Oxefit and the like. Yup.
torque is starting to show up at some gyms I frequent.., looks like they are making some fairly decent moves
Love to hear it!
Tried the ark at a higher end boutique gym before. Definitely a different experience. It's an extreme experience with the way it works. But even if it was more affordable for in home use, its not something I'd want to use on a regular basis for a workout. It really wasn't an enjoyable experience. Didn't really give the satisfaction after a workout like regular old iron
Both have good and bad sides.
They had electricronic machines like this with the positive / negatives 20 years ago at a Bally's gym. They didn't have screens and were alot smaller. They were amazing because the negative is almost impossible to do without help. The gym got rid of them because they broke too often.
I hope this isn't rude-- and if it is I'll apologize-- but that Torque Fitness lady was staring into Coop's SOUL.
People think 80k is a lot but if it does provide resistance no matter your strength and allows you to exercise everything that is still cheaper than buying a proper at home gym though that is if you are again aiming for a proper one and not a grab the cheapest thing then need to buy more stuff later gym.
Damn, Coop didn't even put his plates away!
The arx actually seems sick af but the price also makes me sick af 💀😭
No surprise that they are insanely expensive. It's a go to market strategy - target the luxury/high end commercial market with your gimmick product (that will be used far less than a barbell) and make a high margin on a low volume. It's also the kind of strategy that dies when the funding drys up. Unless they have other product lines I could see these things being out of production in 5 more years.
My exact thoughts on the ARX.That thing looks so sick and the concept is next level. -Mike, GGR Community Manager
@@apeekintime it all depends on the scaling really, whether the price of production for this type of machine drops fast enough for either competitors to make it to market or for these guys to saturate the luxury market and start having to drop price to stay profitable
You didn't mention one of the biggest selling points of the ARX--they market it as a way to only have to work out for 15 minutes a week (total including rest time) and still make consistent progress in strength gains. You should have asked the guy about his workout routine, I've heard him discuss it and it's insane how little time he spends working out.
ARX had a Chicago showroom-training facility. Long gone. 1xwk, 90sec sets, (ie, 3 slow reps), x 3 exercises: chest press, pulldown, leg press. 4.5 minutes of work. Cooked, done. If I'd done 2xwk, fatigue would've impacted my effort c30%. If ARX had stayed in Chicago, I'd do 1x2wks by now.
This is what Draco from Rocky would use if the movie took place in today's day and age
ARX is similar to metered isometrics, (iso-chain, 1RepGym...); you push/pull as hard as you can, against an immovable object, & the meter tells you how hard you pushed or pulled. The big difference: The object that YOU can't move, moves on its OWN, so you can work full range, for reps, & get readings for every inch of every rep, positive & negative. /// I have 2 questions: 1/With recent studies showing that isometrics, DO, in fact, strengthen the entire muscle, is movement really necessary? 2/If a subject exerts full effort through a set, isn't there a good chance of over-training? I'd think 1 rep'd be best, but this isn't what ARX is recommending.
THey market it such that they say you would need a very small amount of time on the machine to get strength gains - I believe 15 min/week/muscle group including rest
@@youareaspook5897 1min press+1min pull+1min leg press is plenty. A subject who wants max cardio benefit could finish in 5 min. Also, for those who prefer to work 2or3xWk; it's not a bad idea to do only 1 exercise per session.
Basically it’s Mike Mezner Heavy Duty Training but much safer.
As much a awesome and nostalgic it is , barbells, dumbells... will need to evolve, just like from old pc to literally a pc in our hands
12:15 he knows your weakness Coop, he's going in for the kill, be carefuuuulll !!!
That airbike is just the Rogue Echo with more steps. The Echo is solid and feels like a tank
I have had the same Airdyne for 20 plus years, all metal. Meet the new air bike, same as the old air bike.
hey Coop im looking for a milatary press/squat rack like they had at my old 24 hour fitness. the olympic bar could be rotated and "claws" would grab the pegs and lockout the weight. the bar traveled up and down along a rail on each side. do you have any idea what this is called and who manufactures them? anyone else know? tyvm much appreciated
I’ve used these before. Felt super unnatural. You really can’t beat the feeling of lifting actual weight. Those static holds get boring ssuupperrr fast. I’d hate to have that be my way of lifting weights.
I agree. "My line on the screen went higher!" is nothing compared to "I justed added another plate to the barbell". And there's no failure. I hate missing reps, it really sucks, but that motivates me to make it. No risk, no reward. No sane person wants to fight a machine that's going to let you win every time.
I don't know Coop I am not all about the tech stuff you have been reviewing lately. There is just something about battling the steel that no machine can replace
These are for when you are living on your space station
Why not it’s vastly superior and safer.
Traditional weights offer nothing over, smart tech
Devices
What kind of shoes is the Torque female rep wearing?
She is wearing the ON Cloud Running Shoes! She gives them a 10 out of 10 😀
@@TorqueFitness Thank you!!
Rusty is the winner! Guy just Dad moved this dudebro.
I do 3 sets of 50 yards with the tank to finish my leg days. It's a killer
I do wonder what would happen with these smart machines in the middle of a press if say the power went out. Maintenance is also something I'd wonder about, updates to software, etc. Too many moving parts = more things to break. Until this gets further developed, which it will; bumpers, bars, and DBs/KBs reign supreme.
a bench, rack, bar and weights will always be the only thing youll ever need.
Something tells me you will find one of those ARX machines at the Alabama football facility next year.
for me its enough to bang out a few pushups and go for a jog but its cool to see what people come up with.
This could be so useful for strength adaptation.
“Keep breathin’.....relax our face.....” 🥴😂
Kabuki Rusty got him with a Mic pun! 😂
Okay this is actually a pretty cool video
I love your videos. I use them to buy my home gym equipment all the time. Those 10000 shorts you're wearing, what is the inseam length?
I would laugh in their face so hard at 45,000 machine😂😂😂😂😂😂
That Torque rep asking all the hard questions!!
Cool design by ARX but crazy how complicated how we can make exercise
Very well done.
Its a belt drive, so direct feed back. What are your other options for less feedback??? Gear drive, ghost drive, or the girlie 'tought drive' ?