Two antennas for VTX, two antennas for RX, an antenna for RID and a GPS module. Pretty soon we'll just polarize the props and use them as the tx/rx antennas 😂
Bro I can already fly 2 miles out to sea with 99-100% of packets received at only 100mw. I dont think 2 antennas is a big deal. What we need is ExpressVTx!
openVTX is definitely the best vtx i used. It works perfectly on mobula7 even with that tiny dipole antenna. I can make it to the fourth floor of my house sitting on the basement floor, running at 100mw and using old skyzone 01s with 2 lollipops. And image is perfect. And no overheating when running 400mw.
So I decided to get back into RC after a 40 year hiatus. A couple of years ago, on a whim, bought one of the minidrones off of facebook ad. It does alright in keeping granddaughter entertained but it doesn't have enough power to go against anything more than 3 knot wind so I mostly toy with it inside. This year I bought a a Speedybee drone stack and a Speedybee fixed wing stack, a Radiomaster Boxer radio, a FlySky radio(because it was $40) and a couple of cameras plus a 7" & 6" drone carbon fiber kit. I stopped there because I wasn't sure which motors/ESCs or FPV system to buy. I own a lot of acreage that I want to fly in FPV but no racing aspirations here. The longer the range the better. Will be watching your videos to get up to speed as time is my limiting factor.
Would love to see Gemini transmit on dual bands (915/2.4). The RX would also have to be dual band, but would be cool too increase signal resiliency even more
@@maeluis6214 I am new to FPV and my first whoop is meteor75 pro. It seems amazing! Could you share you experiences and why betaFPV is bad (I really thought the brand is good).
I agree with others, im going to wait to see what other products come out like radiomasters. Im kinda biased i got a pocket recently and i like it for the money so i'm honestly waiting till RM comes out with thier own module that fits my pocket. Until then the pocket's integral is fine.
I foresee the next event: radio manufacturers are rushing to produce radios with eLRS Gemini TX onboard and dual antennas. Radiomaster TX16 MK3, Jumper T20S MKII...
never had a true FS condition in ELRS, but have seen micro stutters when turning and the antenna is at a non ideal orientation. it also doesnt help that I hold my radio in my lap. Im not going to rush out and buy one, but if one is available when I update my module, I will consider
I have a couple of these receivers and I ahve seen the gemini mode in my lua for a little while now since the new updates to elrs and I am so intrigued to learn more so thank you for this vid !!!!
Very good point about the internal power not being able to supply amps for 2 WATT, i had this issue a few years back, ended up just getting external pack and velcroing it to back of my radio :D
An RC link line this doesn't do retransmission. It would make the latency variable. The main reason they use retransmission in digital video links is because of how the compression works. If you miss a packet it could mess up seconds of video. For something like this it's much better to miss a packet than take the time to ask for it again.
It's a very interesting thing, I suspect that they may have been able to implement it in a way that at least doesn't break other devices, but I'm not sure if they actually did it that way. If the battery is just hooked into VBUS with no PD controller onboard, most devices probably won't charge with a 2s or 3s. At least in my testing they typically won't accept more than 6V unless there's a power delivery controller or other proprietary signaling circuitry to talk to.
Now the obvious question ... When is Radiomaster going to release updated Ranger modules? Somehow I just trust Radiomaster slightly more than BetaFPV.... Yeah yeah, I know, who could have guessed.....
Don’t be silly. Now you don’t have to wait for betafpv to update their radio for ELRS 3. Now you can just buy this module that’s ships with 3.0 already. The convenience factor is undeniable!
Man that would be awesome bc then the same TX could do both separately aswell 900, 2.4 or both. I think the benefit of 2.4 is latency though and it may have to be slowed down to match a 900 packet rate
Hey Joshua, i need your help to decide what to get. I currently have the Dji Fpv drone and want to upgrade to a freestyle drone. I am really looking forward to get the fpv kit that was made by you from getfpv with the dji o3 system. I would also have to buy a toolkit and a smoke stopper and multimeter... but i dont know if i am going to use them again if i build the quad. do you reccomend me to get that kit or just to buy a prebuild drone with the dji o3 airunit in it?
I’d find it unlikely to make a huge difference. The worst interference would be at the radio in your hand, where the most power is, but your quad is far away. This is basically the same as 2 people flying with ELRS near each other, which isn’t an issue
On the betafpv website: Note: When the voltage of the radio transmitter battery or external battery is lower than 7V (2S) or 10.5V (3S), please use the Gemini mode of 500mW and 1W carefully, otherwise the transmitter will enter the restart state due to insufficient power supply, resulting in disconnection out of control. It scares .
Shoot I haven’t even really run my radio master module that’s capable of 2 watts, I mostly run the happymodel slim pro up to 1w, I never have range issues, but I’ll probably end up getting a Gemini module when Radiomaster or a higher powered unit comes out
I don't see how Switch would cause a latency problem. The latency of the link will be the same, it's just a question of which receiver antenna is the one that gets the signal.
Hey Joshua, you mentioned that you used F1000 mode, but isn't that using FLRC only? My understanding was that Gemini mode utilizes LORA, so does it still function in FLRC modes?
So the real question.. is this Express LRS 'DJIing' the 2.4 band? It seems we're quickly going to further saturate 2.4 Ghz band so we can have other 2.4 links / legacy ELRS / even other Gemini systems Failsafe. Yeah it's hopping at least, but it's 2x the bandwidth / noise on the band. While there are use cases, this is kinda like them 2.5W 5.8 VTXes. This generally does more harm than good.
LoRa transmissions are specifically designed to avoid interference from and interference with other types of trasmitters. In extreme cases, they could see performance degradation, but generally speaking you don't have to worry about it.
ELRS is already the best and it looks like it's going to keep getting better. Sorry Crsfr you had your time, ELRS is here and it's innovating the RC link.
@@JoshuaBardwell lmao oh wow, i must have been scrolled down a tiny bit when i first watched this. i only saw the second row of osd with the satelites, and you were referring to the numbers that i couldn't see the hills have fpv, but not eyes.
Tbs can never keep their stuff stocked. Was waiting for a full crossfire module for a whole year, glad they took their time. Now I'm on elrs and happy as hell with it. 😊
I believe s9. Haven't seen anything new by them technology or tech wise. Really thought they would have jumped 9n digital by now but they sim0le backed down and kept quiet
What do you think will happen with all the order dji drones now that remote ID is here? I know it’s not related but can’t catch a live stream right now.
Drones not currently in production will get no update and will need a remoteid module to be legal. Drones currently in production will get standard remoteid.
I’m not bardwell, but if they shipped at proper voltages it would be fine, but you have no way to know if the Lipos are at storage voltage or not until you check them. If you got any defective ones you could also go outside return window
Every LiPo I've ever bought was already at storage charge. You should be fine. Unless you know it sat on a retail shelf for a couple years, then I'd definitely put it on the charger and run it up to 3.8v/cell.
I’d imagine this would be beneficial for racers flying with several other elrs/2.4 pilots. As well as professionals in noisy environments. Not that the standard single antenna elrs system had any issues that I’ve heard of.
I think it will increase the chance of interference in a race with lots of pilots as everyone with this module will use double the bandwidth within the 2.4ghz band than before..
can you do a video on how to get the lowest latency with the 03 unit and goggles 2 .. i have got my 03 on 10hz with the V2 goggles 2.7k 100 fps 4:3 mode also set ISO manually to get richer blues and brighter whites almost as good as my lcos screens the camera to 12 mbs almost as good as analog I love it want to see if it eliminates the stutter in the Goggles 2 ,, Great videos ,as always , been using the sologood elrs it comes preloaded with 3.2.0 firmware no need to update for me just plug and play
Does anyone have a photo of a FAA drone police officer? I have never see one of the FAA police force and would like to know what they look like with their FAA police uniform on.🤔
@@JoshuaBardwellby no diversity rx you mean true diversity (independent dual receivers on one board) right? They have antenna diversity receivers Is true receiver diversity a lot better than antenna diversity? I figure it wouldn’t matter much cause the antenna position is what really matters right?
I wish Carl from HDzero could somehow implement this for his video ASIC V2. Anyone ever try to implement diversity with video. If retransmission can work why wouldn't diversity?
i really want to see link-diversity... eg; split the control link between ELRS and Crossfire.... or Crossfire and Ghost.... or 900mhz Crossfire and 2.4ghz Ghost, any combination you want.
Two antennas for VTX, two antennas for RX, an antenna for RID and a GPS module. Pretty soon we'll just polarize the props and use them as the tx/rx antennas 😂
RID lol
Don’t suggest it. Someone will think the prop antenna will “throw” signals faster for far lower latency.
Call the props rotating nulls
12:08 - Don't you just hate it when ELRS has exceptionally good range!!? Makes it SO hard to test 😪
I don't hate, but the competition probably does. 😬
haha. also putting testers in tough spots huh? 😊
I wish! I have had several falesafes on ELRS, when I really shouldn't have. Less than 500 ft away, and video was perfectly fine. 1000mW, 250Hz. 😢
Coming from the guy that has never flown so far that his vids needed to be taken down cause of his amazing achievements! 😜
You just gotta leave your quad in the hotel room take a walk with the transmitter! ExpressLRS testing has made me walk so much. Thanks ExpressLRS!
Bro I can already fly 2 miles out to sea with 99-100% of packets received at only 100mw. I dont think 2 antennas is a big deal. What we need is ExpressVTx!
It is a big deal!!! 😂
A proper open source VTX technology would indeed be so great.
There is an open source vtx.....
one that works well ?
@@M-H433
openVTX is definitely the best vtx i used. It works perfectly on mobula7 even with that tiny dipole antenna. I can make it to the fourth floor of my house sitting on the basement floor, running at 100mw and using old skyzone 01s with 2 lollipops. And image is perfect. And no overheating when running 400mw.
I'll wait for the Radiomaster Boxer version :)
So I decided to get back into RC after a 40 year hiatus. A couple of years ago, on a whim, bought one of the minidrones off of facebook ad. It does alright in keeping granddaughter entertained but it doesn't have enough power to go against anything more than 3 knot wind so I mostly toy with it inside. This year I bought a a Speedybee drone stack and a Speedybee fixed wing stack, a Radiomaster Boxer radio, a FlySky radio(because it was $40) and a couple of cameras plus a 7" & 6" drone carbon fiber kit. I stopped there because I wasn't sure which motors/ESCs or FPV system to buy. I own a lot of acreage that I want to fly in FPV but no racing aspirations here. The longer the range the better. Will be watching your videos to get up to speed as time is my limiting factor.
Would love to see Gemini transmit on dual bands (915/2.4). The RX would also have to be dual band, but would be cool too increase signal resiliency even more
Or beta fpv make a 915mhz Gemini competitor to the radiomaster bandit. Call it the Bonnie and Clyde just troll radiomaster
Great idea but I think I'll wait until someone other than BetaFPV brings one out
That's smart!!! BetaFPV will always be beta, not really a product but a prototype... I have to thank BetaFPV for my worst experiences in FPV... 😢
radiomaster is going to do this for sure. they just arent rushing it
@@maeluis6214 I am new to FPV and my first whoop is meteor75 pro. It seems amazing! Could you share you experiences and why betaFPV is bad (I really thought the brand is good).
I agree with others, im going to wait to see what other products come out like radiomasters. Im kinda biased i got a pocket recently and i like it for the money so i'm honestly waiting till RM comes out with thier own module that fits my pocket. Until then the pocket's integral is fine.
i was wondering if this module itself would fit a RM zorro.. hmmm i might wait too.
If you flash R9mini receiver to elrs, you will get a dual antenna too.
I dated a Gemini ♊ before she had 2 antennas if you get what I'm saying ! 😬. I'll see myself out ❤️
Lmao. Well played Sir, 🤣🤣🤣👊
Now I'm confused... 😂
Did her headlights come on late at night?
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I foresee the next event: radio manufacturers are rushing to produce radios with eLRS Gemini TX onboard and dual antennas.
Radiomaster TX16 MK3, Jumper T20S MKII...
never had a true FS condition in ELRS, but have seen micro stutters when turning and the antenna is at a non ideal orientation. it also doesnt help that I hold my radio in my lap. Im not going to rush out and buy one, but if one is available when I update my module, I will consider
Thanks JB! I'm going to wait fo another manufacturer like Happymodel, RadioMaster before I go full Gemini! Cheers yo!
I assume this would be better with 2x Moxon antennas placed vertically/horizontally?
I'm a Gemini and I do have 2 attitudes that's for sure!
Lets just wait for HappyModel true diversity module hahaha
I had a couple of Gemini and then i went to therapy. Still i love the fire of a cross 😂
I have a couple of these receivers and I ahve seen the gemini mode in my lua for a little while now since the new updates to elrs and I am so intrigued to learn more so thank you for this vid !!!!
Very good point about the internal power not being able to supply amps for 2 WATT, i had this issue a few years back, ended up just getting external pack and velcroing it to back of my radio :D
At last someone is making Gemini modules but that XT30 to USB is not a good idea.
Why couldn’t they just put the XT30 on the module 🤦
Usb power back? 60w?
Thanks a bunch for the testing and review, Joshua! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I believe power draw with Gemini need not be necessarily doubled due to less need for retransmission
An RC link line this doesn't do retransmission. It would make the latency variable. The main reason they use retransmission in digital video links is because of how the compression works. If you miss a packet it could mess up seconds of video. For something like this it's much better to miss a packet than take the time to ask for it again.
I think you should use the xt30 to USB C for a test. Since a lot of phones use >5v for charging, will it work directly form 2-3s, will it do nothing 🤔
It's a very interesting thing, I suspect that they may have been able to implement it in a way that at least doesn't break other devices, but I'm not sure if they actually did it that way.
If the battery is just hooked into VBUS with no PD controller onboard, most devices probably won't charge with a 2s or 3s. At least in my testing they typically won't accept more than 6V unless there's a power delivery controller or other proprietary signaling circuitry to talk to.
Now the obvious question
... When is Radiomaster going to release updated Ranger modules? Somehow I just trust Radiomaster slightly more than BetaFPV.... Yeah yeah, I know, who could have guessed.....
Better ? Is when is the tx20 with 2w power and gemini coming out.
I just trust my freaking crazy sisters slightly more than BetaFPV... 😂😂😂
Don’t be silly. Now you don’t have to wait for betafpv to update their radio for ELRS 3. Now you can just buy this module that’s ships with 3.0 already. The convenience factor is undeniable!
That would be gire with a 915 mhz and 2.4ghz diversity version (for range and penetration)
Man that would be awesome bc then the same TX could do both separately aswell 900, 2.4 or both.
I think the benefit of 2.4 is latency though and it may have to be slowed down to match a 900 packet rate
Thanks for this review JB 👍🏻🙌
Reading the comments and being a newbie in Elrs. Beta FPV products is that bad???
Hey Joshua, i need your help to decide what to get. I currently have the Dji Fpv drone and want to upgrade to a freestyle drone. I am really looking forward to get the fpv kit that was made by you from getfpv with the dji o3 system. I would also have to buy a toolkit and a smoke stopper and multimeter... but i dont know if i am going to use them again if i build the quad. do you reccomend me to get that kit or just to buy a prebuild drone with the dji o3 airunit in it?
It just depends if you want the experience of building a drone or not. If you stay in the hobby, you definitely will keep using the tools.
In terms of battery management, shouldn't the Gemini dual transmission only kick in when LQ drops in the 80ies for more than a few msec?
Question for you... Why can't I plug in a usb joystick into an RC Transmitter?
Curious to see if the other manufacturers (RM) follow suit. Would be nice 😊
DIY gemini module would be a fun video :))
Just flash any True Diversity RX with Unified TX Firmware 🤫
to the moon and beyond ...
Could you please testing it at 500mW or 1W to see how it will interfere gps or maybe interfere analog/digital fpv ?
I’d find it unlikely to make a huge difference. The worst interference would be at the radio in your hand, where the most power is, but your quad is far away. This is basically the same as 2 people flying with ELRS near each other, which isn’t an issue
When are they gonna make a 915mhz version of this? It would be nice to have
hey so i built your qav s 2 drone from your previous video and i wanted to set up gps but there’s not enough uart ports
That is correct.
@@JoshuaBardwell is there any way i can use gps with that drone?
Not while also using a digital vTX and ELRS or Crossfire RX.
On the betafpv website:
Note: When the voltage of the radio transmitter battery or external battery is lower than 7V (2S) or 10.5V (3S), please use the Gemini mode of 500mW and 1W carefully, otherwise the transmitter will enter the restart state due to insufficient power supply, resulting in disconnection out of control.
It scares .
I'd love to see you try it with a noise generator at your side, because as you said, the biggest advantages are in that condition
Shoot I haven’t even really run my radio master module that’s capable of 2 watts, I mostly run the happymodel slim pro up to 1w, I never have range issues, but I’ll probably end up getting a Gemini module when Radiomaster or a higher powered unit comes out
At 17:42, Wouldn't the biggest difference in Switch vs Diversity show up in latency while dealing with changing polarity of the signal?
I don't see how Switch would cause a latency problem. The latency of the link will be the same, it's just a question of which receiver antenna is the one that gets the signal.
Gemini mode - activated!
Oh darn, I'm Gemini born in 1978... But I only have one antenna. That's not fair! 😢
😂
Hey Joshua, you mentioned that you used F1000 mode, but isn't that using FLRC only? My understanding was that Gemini mode utilizes LORA, so does it still function in FLRC modes?
Gemini works the same with all ELRS packet rates and modulation methods.
So the real question.. is this Express LRS 'DJIing' the 2.4 band? It seems we're quickly going to further saturate 2.4 Ghz band so we can have other 2.4 links / legacy ELRS / even other Gemini systems Failsafe. Yeah it's hopping at least, but it's 2x the bandwidth / noise on the band.
While there are use cases, this is kinda like them 2.5W 5.8 VTXes. This generally does more harm than good.
LoRa transmissions are specifically designed to avoid interference from and interference with other types of trasmitters. In extreme cases, they could see performance degradation, but generally speaking you don't have to worry about it.
Great expression Joshua: "Cowboying again!" Ha, ha!
@JoshuaBardwell what’s the deal with Elrs 3.3? Is this a thing we can use?
Yes you can use it.
So Dji old air unit vtx is the grandfather of Gemini two antenna?
Great vid, cool setup🙂
Now would be the time for vtx maker to step up their game for more range for vtx's
Isnt the benefit really the price? The gemini is like $40-50 less than the ranger right for that 1w?
Is the display of the boxer having some dead lines? 5:18
ELRS is already the best and it looks like it's going to keep getting better. Sorry Crsfr you had your time, ELRS is here and it's innovating the RC link.
Ahh, Gemini, twin antennae🤔♊️
is it just me or are we missing all the betaflight OSD?
im tryin to find the LQ and it aint there!
Umm. Look again? It's at the top of the screen right where I pointed to it.
@@JoshuaBardwell lmao oh wow, i must have been scrolled down a tiny bit when i first watched this.
i only saw the second row of osd with the satelites, and you were referring to the numbers that i couldn't see
the hills have fpv, but not eyes.
i wonder how Radiomaster will response Gemini Technology . Will they have new Modul Tx with 2watt power , or just Rx with Gemini capability. 😁
Hmm.. sounds like Frsky Twin (similar? same?)
Question has TBS DIED. Good 👍 job Joshua .
TBS will release Taurus modules 😂
Tbs can never keep their stuff stocked. Was waiting for a full crossfire module for a whole year, glad they took their time. Now I'm on elrs and happy as hell with it. 😊
I believe s9. Haven't seen anything new by them technology or tech wise. Really thought they would have jumped 9n digital by now but they sim0le backed down and kept quiet
Thank u Guys.@@odyss160
How do hd vtxs do transmit diversity wo interference?
FCC ID?! The problem with simultaneous transmission on different frequencies, the occurring cross modulation and unwanted beam steering.
Tomorrow news: elrs receiver with 8 antenna!
What do you think will happen with all the order dji drones now that remote ID is here? I know it’s not related but can’t catch a live stream right now.
Drones not currently in production will get no update and will need a remoteid module to be legal. Drones currently in production will get standard remoteid.
@@JoshuaBardwell does that make them pretty much useless?
Why do you say that?
Hey Joshua, is it dangerous if you don’t unpack and charge your just-bought Lipo batterie even if they are in the original packaging?
I’m not bardwell, but if they shipped at proper voltages it would be fine, but you have no way to know if the Lipos are at storage voltage or not until you check them. If you got any defective ones you could also go outside return window
Every LiPo I've ever bought was already at storage charge. You should be fine. Unless you know it sat on a retail shelf for a couple years, then I'd definitely put it on the charger and run it up to 3.8v/cell.
I’d imagine this would be beneficial for racers flying with several other elrs/2.4 pilots. As well as professionals in noisy environments. Not that the standard single antenna elrs system had any issues that I’ve heard of.
I think it will increase the chance of interference in a race with lots of pilots as everyone with this module will use double the bandwidth within the 2.4ghz band than before..
@@hazzahfpv6675 that's correct. Although the limit of how many ELRS devices it takes to spam the band is still not established as far as I know.
Mavlink over ELRS would be really cool
Read about Airport. They recommend control link done over a second parallel ELRS link though
Is the airport possible on this?
ELRS guys could also modify the firmware so that both the mavlink and control link are possible with the same set of transceivers.
can you do a video on how to get the lowest latency with the 03 unit and goggles 2 .. i have got my 03 on 10hz with the V2 goggles 2.7k 100 fps 4:3 mode also set ISO manually to get richer blues and brighter whites almost as good as my lcos screens the camera to 12 mbs almost as good as analog I love it want to see if it eliminates the stutter in the Goggles 2 ,, Great videos ,as always , been using the sologood elrs it comes preloaded with 3.2.0 firmware no need to update for me just plug and play
Use 100 FPS 2.7k or lower. Bitrate doesn't matter. Lock channel and Hz. This is the way.
@@JoshuaBardwellthis type of answers could be added to your web as a faq or q&a's or tips tricks.. 😊
Awesome Thanks ,,, 🤣🤣@@JoshuaBardwell
Waiting for 3 antennas here.
In my country long distance flights are illegal with a drone😢
Does anyone have a photo of a FAA drone police officer? I have never see one of the FAA police force and would like to know what they look like with their FAA police uniform on.🤔
7:20 Take advantage of antenna diversity...
"DJI FPV Controller v1" has left the chat
Do we onow if the RP3 will be able to do Gemini?
No, the RP3 is antenna-switch diversity, not True Diversity
@@CapnBry Okay good to know, thank you!
Thought Lora ment l9ng range
Can I stick this into my Zorro?
Yep. But you might need to use eternal power.
JB, i get worse Signal strength on stock antennas like your ELRS Modul, compared to the diamond ELRS antennas.
Thank you for the story, but isnt Gemini 25 mW in reality transmits 2x25 = 50 mW?
I guess that's true.
For people who use Eagles as spotters??
Can this Gemini technology work for goggles?
woooo!
Thx
Hey, JB from FL
So is this the same as irc Ghost or is this a working differently?
IRC Ghost has diversity TX but not diveristy RX.
I believe Ghost does the "Switch" transmit mode only-- they only have one radio in their module.
@@JoshuaBardwellby no diversity rx you mean true diversity (independent dual receivers on one board) right? They have antenna diversity receivers
Is true receiver diversity a lot better than antenna diversity? I figure it wouldn’t matter much cause the antenna position is what really matters right?
I thought you were going on vacation until November
1. I am not on vacation. This is a work trip.
2. I said no more livestreams, not no more videos.
We’ll always good to see you !!
you could do range test with the car. :D
Can it go up to 2W….lmao
Does it fit Zorro bay ?
yes
gemini man was the shit in mega man 3
Maybe now elrs wont have so many failsafe?
only time I've failsafed elrs was when my antenna was broken. It's a very reliable control link. How do you have your rx antennas placed on your quad?
Yeah, it sounds like this system will really shine in urban environments... not that anyone is allowed to fly in urban environments.....
we need an upgraded boxer!
They should of called it the Rabbit 😃
XT30 to USB-C is cursed lol
Tomorrow GEMINI 2 is coming
I wish Carl from HDzero could somehow implement this for his video ASIC V2. Anyone ever try to implement diversity with video. If retransmission can work why wouldn't diversity?
Spektrum radios have run two antennas forever, too bad spektrum sucks haha!
Unfortunately I’m done purchasing betafpv products.
Jordan Temkin is going to be annoyed.. lol
Gemini shouldn't be any better than the switching TX diversity, it will only show it's benefits when there is noise to contend with
I will NEVER need this functionality. Standard ELRS is more range than I will ever need.
i really want to see link-diversity... eg; split the control link between ELRS and Crossfire.... or Crossfire and Ghost.... or 900mhz Crossfire and 2.4ghz Ghost,
any combination you want.
Please stop wiggling your USB connectors when you pull them out that will ruin the socket sometimes rip them right off the board thank you
Fuck!!! I just bought a Ranger.
Welp its betafpv so its most likely still in beta
it isn't "lor rah" it's lora