Received my Boxer Max today! WHAT. A. FREAKING. DEAL! Fits waaaaaaay better in my hands (5'10" tall male, medium sized hands) than ANY other transmitter that I've had (Futaba, Graupner, etc.)! Again...WHAT A DEAL!!!
Got a Boxer Max in red here too. Such a great radio for the price. I love the size of it too. I wouldn't mind the colour touch screen of the TX16S but not if it means I need to lug around a bigger radio.
Once again Radiomaster has proven itself to be the best innovator of radios on the market, they’ve hit it out of the park. If I didn’t already have the tx16s and the Zorro I would definitely consider this radio as a great alternative to the other 2 wonderful radios. Great review once again Joshua, well considered and very informative. Oh no, I just realised something, today I learnt something lol.
You mixed innnovation with inspiration. Boxer mimics Mambo. Same size and almost same form factor. 4 switches & 2 pots on top, non sticking out buttons on the back. Mid sized B&W LCD on the bottom. ELRS is western innovation too. "Western" based RC companies shut down R&D expenses. Everything to be cloned is cloned. We will see "true" innovation in two years. Maybe :)
The way I use the buttons on the top of my mambo is: Left button is opentx pre-arm. If left button isn't pushed down, arm switch doesn't send signal. Right button I use to toggle my super bright COB leds on/off for night flying. Like headlights.
I just got a Boxer in the mail and I’m loving this thing. These stock gimbals are better then the Pyro gimbals imo. They’re just lacking that cnc feel but they’re so much smoother. Can’t wait to install AG01’s. Not sorry I picked this up.
The comfort of the traditional form factor in slightly reduced size that makes the Boxer appealing is exactly why I chose the Frsky X9 Lite Pro a couple years ago; it has the hall sensor gimbals, good quality switches & controls, and the screen, while not great, is good enough. But the size/shape/ergos are perfect for me, and all the rest I can modify to suit my needs. Currently I'm using the Happymodel ES24TX Slim ExpressLRS module (the one with the Iron Man' design), and it works like a champ! I've also got a 4-in-1 module that I was going to mount internally, with an additional mini toggle to switch between it and the ELRS module in the bay. But almost everything I run uses ELRS now, plus I've recently installed the Deviation OS into a Walkera Devo-10 which will let me fly all those obscure BNF models that the 4-in-1 is for, and it's a decent radio. I don't mind having a second one for those, since I only ever run those oddball little craft (and cars) at home, so only taking the X9 Lite with me when heading out to the field. Still, the Boxer is nice, and if I didn't already have my ideal radio, I'd definitely be looking hard at it! Great review, Bardwell, as always, I'm humbled by your knowledge, your channel is THE source for info!
I'm Tim Oliver & I bought one à month ago! I'm patiently awaiting shipment along with my HDZero goggles. 1st radio & goggles! Wife thinks I'm nuts order & wait. Love your vids will buy coffee soon!
I've been pretty disciplined about impulse buying for a while on FPV stuff, but I didn't even know about this radio yesterday and now have pre-ordered it.
@@lokaero I have no idea. It has just shown up for years now. And it's not a real verification symbol. It must be left over from some long abandoned Google experiment.
1:41 hehe thats why we are here Bardwell, good video again! I own only Taranis qx7, and will be getting on the ELRS train with the boxer, ty radiomaster ;)
The TX16S is right for me, I like the colorful touch screen, I like the shape and size of it, and it's impressive look!😂 The Boxer is the first non-TX16S radio I've even considered switching to since I bought TX16S. I would probably benefit from the powerful ELRS module, and if it fits my hands as well as it fits JB's then that's compelling! But I'd have to get used to the boxy, slightly duller look of it, and the smaller screen. I hope they come out with premium versions of it with color options, like the TX16S! Time will tell, but right now if I upgrade I'll probably go for a TX16S with carbon fiber, and an ELRS internal module! As always, great Review JB, I'm pretty sure you answered all the questions I had about it!
Yeah pretty much the same I just ordered the tx16s jb and right after that the boxer came out and for a moment I was worried I made the Wrong decision and thought about sending it back but I have big hands and I’m a pincher and on top the purple accents and the color screen are just to cool to give up, so definitely gonna choose the tx16s
I think it would have been a win for me if they made a more "premium" version of it. keep the touch screen, improve the ergonomics of the tx16s. Or really if they just made the Tx16s shorter and kept everything else the same I'd be really happy. maybe get rid of the toggles on the top for push buttons like this and I would buy one immediately
Different USB ports for Sim and charging is a great thing. Lipo lifespan reduces drastical when charged to 100% for a long time. Playing on a sim would lead to that when it is the same port for charging. The boxer can charge the lipo to 90% and then play on the sim and simply turn off the TX afterwards without the need for storage charging it afterwards or seeing the max capacity shrink down the weeks afterwards.
Seems like a QX7 competitor/spiritual successor. I really like how the QX7 feels in hand so if they make an upgraded boxer with the TX16S screen I'd be all over it.
I always thought, "hm, this would be perfect if it was just a little smaller" with my QX7. Then I got the TX16S and thought, "hm, this would be perfect if it was just a little shorter."
I got the Jumper T-lite as my first radio and I think I'll switch to this once I have the money to spare. Definitely feels like a decent compromise between an old-school and a gamepad-style radio while also delivering some welcome new features. 1000mW ELRS internally is just too good to be true.
Me too. I have the Jumper t-lite, mainly because it's shaped like a game controller which I'm familiar with and it was cheap. I had correctly gathered that flying an fpv drone is pretty difficult and I wanted to make sure I was actually capable of flying a drone before I spent £1000 on equipment. I've played with Velocidrone for about 25 hours and It seems that I am probably likely to be able to control a real drone so it's time to start thinking about what I'll buy for real drone use. The Boxer looks spot on.
Just replaced my old trusty, crossfire modded Qx7. I had M7 and M7-R gimbals there, silicon skin, metal stand, custom stick ends, tracer module. Ordered the ELRS Boxer, instantly fell in love with it the moment I held it. That controller has so much going on for it. Yes! the form factor is so much more comfortable compared to ANY other radio I have held. The gimbals feel smooth, the switches feel clicky, The battery lasts such a long time. EdgeTX lets you customize the start/stop delay where you have to hold the button forever, which I hate on OpenTX. All in all, the Boxer makes me enjoy flying a lot more.
I’m sticking with the tx12, everything is in reach and there are plenty of awesome upgrades that still are cheaper than the bigger radios. Ago1 minis, crossfire, and the grips make it everything I could need and more.
I recently got a TX12 and I am really liking it. I've flown fixed wing for years with a full size Futaba. I started with FPV miniwhoops using a jumper t-lite. The tx12 is right in the middle like this one your reviewing. I have yet to fly it with a real quad as it's winter here and I don't have any elrs whoops. But I'm going to be using it with my bigger quads once it warms up. Judging by how I like it in sims, I think it's going to be my daily.
Still rocking my QX7. Battery mod incl. charging port. 400kbaud mod for ELRS. It does it all at a great size. But I've got to say if my QX7 failed I'd replace it with the Boxer.
Tx16s: best interface for programming and aircraft management. Jumper T-pro: best flight ergonmics for me. Seems like the menu navigation of the Boxer is similar to that of the T-pro. I have both and I generally use the TX16s for larger builds and T-pro for whoops. Great time to be an FPV pilot.
I was on the fence about the Zorro because of the battery setup. I really like the form factor of this radio. This seems to be perfect for my quads. ELRS, here I come 😁
That moment when you thought you had a radio picked out after weeks of research, then they release another🤦🏻♂️. Think I’m gonna go with the Tx16s Max anyways. Joshua Bardwell style baby. 🤘🏻
The boxer is the radio that TBS refused to make. My mambo money is now boxer money. I'll be getting the 4in1 version and plugging crossfire into the bay. Happy days.
Radiomaster is defo the most innovative RC radio company out here, their radios are really great My dream radio is something that has the innovations of Radiomaster, and design of FrSky (I’m talking about the Horus line, especially X12S, I only want to buy that radio because of its design)
I really love my Zorro and I am very happy with it. However, if I should select one new radio this Boxer would be the best candidate. It looks amazing! Cheers guys
Honestly, Joshua... I think I'm in love with this radio! 😂 I still rock the X9D, but I've been looking for a replacement for a while... I was between the Zorro and the TX16S. But this one is perfect! Anyway, fantastic review as always!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I still not sure if it's even a upgrade to replace x9d. But then again I'm a helicopter and planes flyer. x9d is still a great radio. I think it would be a downgrade. Upgrade would be x9d to Radio Master tx16s. I own Taranis but love better tx16s due to color screen. It's also touch screen. Taranis still a great radio. Still have lot of switches, slider. And it is louder. That is a big boo for tx16s. Another thing I couldn't sync sound to boot screen. What I mean is I couldn't delay the boot screen. It boot's up fairly fast to the ui and with Taranis there was a delay feature that is adjustible. But this new radio looks great. I bet feels lot better then Tx16s. Tx16s I got use to it but it's huge. I have to reach farther then Taranis or Futaba 14sg. But this is good fairly good can do so much then many spektrum or most when it comes to programing and modification.
Another thing is wish they added slider. I hope for the future I hope Radio Master don't get rid of like the setup of Tx16s. Sliders, rotary nobs, shape because there is still lot of plane and helicopter flyer's.
@@rcrotorfreak Oh, no doubt about that. But I travel a lot and the smaller size seems great! I was seriously thinking about getting the Zorro, but the battery issue... You know? And I wouldn't burn the X9D or something... 😬 I would still have it if I ever needed. 😊
Let me give you a run down from a drone pilot... So i upgraded from using the x9d with m9s for 5 years (since 2017) to the tx16s Let me start by saying the gimbals are a whole heck of a lot better. I didn't expect this to be the case since I bought the m9s and the gimbals I use are the v1s of this gimbal, but they feel so much more smooth and the throw is more. The ergonomics made me love this radio. Even though its just a box, the way they put the sliders compared to the x9d (I hated the sliders on that thing cause my fingers would go on top of them and feel super awkward) was amazing. my fingers split to the sides so i dont feel it at all (I pinch/hybrid grip) The battery life is crzy using the 5000mah LIion from RM, and considering this has a 6200mah and is a b&w screen should be so much better. so basically I didnt expect it to be this good, but it is -Better gimbals -Better ergonomics I'm thinking of getting the boxer since I don't need the color screen (and frankly i never wanted it) but I use the top left shoulder switch for arming so I would have to get used to having it moved I also only have a mark I tx16s so having an internal elrs module would be very nice
NICE ONE JOSHUA!!!! As you were leading up to the radio looking like the Mamba . I Was saying out loud you mean like the mamba???? Then boom you did the radio switch and I was laughing out loud 😂 !!!! Nice one ☝️!!!!
I'll probably be getting this. I wish they had a "premium" version like the tx16s max with different faceplates, grips and ag01 gimbals. But it will come eventually because this product will be popular.
I bought a TX16S JB Edition and I literally love it (it is gorgeous)... but as my daily driver I tend to use a Jumper T-Lite ELRS, simply because I won't cry if I by any chance it gets lost, stolen or destroyed.
I think the Boxer would make an excellent first radio, for me at least. Yes, I use your links, it's the least I could do. Never let it be said I don't do the least I could do.
I learned something today: Gimbel's was a department store that had a rivalry with Macy's, and started the oldest Thanksgiving day parade in America. Oh yeah, and I will own this radio.
Can you do a quick side by side (size) comparison of the Boxer radio and the TX12? After more consideration. I think I like the boxer better than the TX12 only because of the potentiometers. I'm thinking the left shoulder switch @ 8:00 would make a good "Air Mode" switch. That strap on the back.????? For real?!
The option for 1W internal ExpressLRS power output makes this radio a game changer. No need to spend more money for a external module to increase power
I waiting for couple of mounths to upgrade my radio and finally Joshua you give me a great news ... it is small it is compact good battery all i need 🙂 thanks Joshua for the review 😉 Good to think ... if i buy elrs version ... i will save money i want to need external elrs and i have the 1 Watt bonus 😉 people will they buy the Ranger ELRS anymore? If they give a really good radio +1 watt internal
Charger and data over the same port is a function of circut design which is directly related to cost in other words if you could charge more and get the higher price it would be there...
i just bought a tbs mambo ethix months ago and now im contemplating on selling or trading cause i dont even want to dive into the tracer life. been waiting for something like this
Most of your comments regarding ergonomics and switchology also apply to the TX12 MkII. What's the antenna you have on the Boxer? Is that an upgrade to the little stick types that come on many other radios, including the TX12. I'm asking because I wonder if I'll want to upgrade the one on my TX12.
While it may not be in the same class or size Transmitter the Commando8 900Mhz(900 is why I have it) will go up to 1Watt with built in cooling. That said I am considering changing as I want/need more channels
Is it possible to fit somehow a real switch instead that shoulder buttons? I use my old Jumper T12 Pro and I love that switches. I use the left one as my arm switch and the right as a turtle mode. This Boxer looks nice, but I can't use a radio without those switches.
Looks nice. Already have 2.... well 1.8 Mambos and a RMtx16s(broke a gimbal before replacements were available so I use it for parts) so there that is. Besides I have yet to get anything with ExLRS also
Fun fact: was looking for a smaller radio than the TX16S. Wanted the Zorro as a second driver for months. Saved up and bought the luminier edition. The moment I hit purchase, I went on TH-cam and saw the Boxer was out. Damn it.
left press switch could be for throttle cut, right momentary switch could be for panic button... im a brand new noob, havent bought a plane yet. i wanted to start with an end all transmitter then get planes.
I'll still take the TX16S with an external module for a daily drone flyer (and the X20 for fixed wing) but can see how this could be very appealing to a LOT of ppl.
Why x20 for fixed wing vs Tx16s? I ask because I'm a fixed wing flyer and helicopter flyer. Tx16s is great all around. I myself would chose tx16s vs this radio. I Just hope Radio Master don't get rid of radio like Tx16s because they been focusing to much on drone pilot. Like for example this doesn't have slider, have those push button on top right and left.
@@rcrotorfreak In my humble opinion, x20 is another level of radio, just test the sliders and you will see they (x20 x tx16s) don't play in the same league. In more detail: the screen has higher resolution and brightness, the switches are of better quality, the processor is much stronger and the constructive quality in general is also superior.
I have a Zorro that I put a lot of money and love into, and... I'm almost swayed. The 1W output power is really compelling for someone like I who wants to switch to EP2 receivers for all quads except those purpose-built for long range.
That's the only thing I don't like about the speed of development in the FPV world, it seems like every time I buy something a cooler thing gets released right afterward. I got a Jumper T16 to replace my Turnigy 9X right before the TX16S came out
@@grandpa_stanley7813 I thought about that too, but then you’d need to add an external battery pack or else you’ll only get about 30-50mins of flight time
True. Thinking of getting an extra 2s battery to strap on the bottom of the radio for that reason. That’s my only issue of the Zorro besides those weird wheel switches on the back
I just haven't had great experience with ELRS. You make it sound like it's so great and reliable and it always makes me feel sad like I've missed out on something. 1watt 50hz and I'm failsafing on the regular on multiple quads and way before vtx range runs out....
That really shouldn't be happening. I suggest jumping on the ELRS discord server and see if they can figure out what's wrong with your hardware or your configuration.
@@JoshuaBardwell Yah i’ve been on discord with them and even directly with a developer for months. I’m flying a lot commercially indoors and around manufacturing sites so something just isn’t translating with 2.4 in that scenario…
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I was thinking to replace flysky fs i6x to something and tho Boxer looks to be perfect match with 4in module. TX16S looks great but could be little heavy and to big. Maybe i will give a chance to bixer. JR modules are great to have, i can buy ELRS in future if needed... hmmm
Looks great, but sticking with my Mambo despite it’s quality challenges. One of the big wins with Mambo is that you don’t need an antenna. Small radio, big sticky out antenna.
Ended up snagging one of these with the 4-in-1 internal to cover all my old receivers, and under the assumption that since ELRS is under active development, I'll probably want to be able to swap out to a newer external module as the standard progresses and becomes more capable on the hardware side, without having to re-buy the TX. The screen is less of a problem as most of my model setup will probably be done through the EdgeTX Companion software; the chances of needing to do anything more than minor edits in the field are pretty low. I do kind of wonder if anyone will come out with an OLED or IPS replacement mod, as the ghosting on the LCD is pretty unpleasant to look at, even if it's still totally usable. Hoping to set up a quick-view "widget" type screen with all my most important at-a-glance stuff, as the default stick and switch position display is kind of useless for day-to-day, only really helpful in case of checking on a control hardware failure. Great feel in larger hands! Really gives you something to solidly GRIP, while keeping everything within easy reach. The sharpness of the edges of the shoulder buttons on press-in is less great though; I'd have preferred the buttons to stand proud and drop to flush when depressed, rather than sinking into the body and presenting that sharp lip. It does make them harder to accidentally hit though, so tradeoffs there. Likewise hope that Radiomaster will break up the six-position switch into individual button capability like with the Jumper... I was under the assumption that EdgeTX would control that. Apparently not. :/
I liked the size of my old X9 lite, but I've had no complaints with the size of my TX16S, with exception of traveling with it. It doesn't fit well in my backpack.
@@JThemelis I hear that! I have a Mambo, Tango 2, Nirvana and Dji "brick" v1 radio and a Taranis X9D still needing to go as well lol. It's crazy.. They all are missing like 1 or 2 things to bring them to the usefulness that this Boxer radio seems to be. I've been rocking the Tx12 v2 for a bit, really liking it.. But I really wanted a Mambo form factor, but one that would run on EdgeTX and have gimbals that could run the latest and greatest Elrs. I think a lot of people will probably be selling off their radios right about now too lol.
Lots to sort through. Kinda gave up flying for the last 2 years because of Transport Canada's garbage. Built a couple sub 250 rigs. Coming back into this from Taranis, not caring what Frsky is offering anymore. ELRS seems to be far more stable. Now the torn part. Boxer VS TX16S....
As someone who’s played too much Velocidrone I’ve got hundreds of hours clocked, I quite like the fact I wasn’t charging the battery for all that time. Boxer looks amazing, struggling not to pull the trigger on one.
i fly an fs-i6x cause thats the only thing can afford but i have always liked the mambo especially cause Mr steel uses it but its way more expensive. but the boxer looks like a really good option it has elrs and u can upgrade the gimblas so i would love to own one
It’s easier to have the kill motor disarm switch on the tx16s on the back left for me anyhow flying towards the back beacuse I use my thumbs - the games are super cool though. Awsome review as always Josh 😊
@@scottyd035ntknow yes your correct. I was heavily into fixed wings in the 80’s and most of the 90’s. I’ve got a museum of radios in the attic. JR was my goto back then.
Okay JB here is the question, for my first Radiomaster radio which should it be? I am not going to worry about the money (very unusual for me) as it will be my 70 birthday birthday present to myself. I have already decided that the TX16s Mk2 is doable but now you tell me it might not be the king of the Radiomaster hill? Please advise here.
separated charging and data ports conserve battery - i've damaged like 2 or 3 batteries playing with FS-i10... my vote will have any company that will make radio with "battery saver" - charge it only when voltage drops below given value...
Looks like this new radio has just the right ergonomics for me. I do find my TX16S just a little bit awkward particularly if not using the neck strap. However, the lack of flick switches on the shoulders of the Boxer is unfortunately a deal breaker for me. I’ve been arming/ disarming with those shoulder switches for too many years now, and can’t see myself doing it any other way! 😂 For that reason, this radio sadly wouldn’t be useful to me even as a back-up.
I for years use to neck strap on all radio. It feel silly if I don't use and drop it to the ground. That happen to me once i drop my radio and crash my helicopter lol. Close to 1000 dollar worth of repair. Neck strap should be what everyone should use. Extra insurance.
@@ayoaina_fpv Worth mentioning that hand size will play a factor. Bardwell mentioned having to change hand position to press the button. 8:02 My ring fingers extend considerably past the buttons and I've found it better to press with the middle of my finger rather than the tip. Looking forward to trying out the Boxer.
I would‘ve bought it but the deep gimbals with a ring around it is a deal breaker for me. I always hit the case with my index finger because I‘m pinching. Actually there two radios only I van use without that problem, the NV14 and the TBS Mambo. Radiomaster should make a case for all the pincher out there with the gimbal base being flat with the casing and without that ring.
Can you pls make a video what drone flying control protocol (and what is the essence of digital vs analog- I understand it is about the camera and not the control of the drone) to go with and how to interpret spec data in that regard when buying a drone from flywoo and other online stores for noooobs. Thank you
Does it feel kinda like the QX-7? I just bought the TX-16 because my X-7 gave up, I may have bought the boxer if it had been out, but I do like the touch color screen. A boxer with a color touch screen, and better switches would have been nice.
@JoshuaBardwell I tried your affiliate link to purchase a Tx. It asks to choose between FCC and LBT region. It would be helpful to have your explanation and guidance on choosing a region. What I gathered from a Reddit discussion is that LBT is for EU, and FCC is for the USA. Also, due to implementation difference, LBT gets you at least 20% better performance over FCC BUT then Elrs goes only upto 100mw and not 1000w. I'll wait till I hear from you. Thank you
I would ever buy the internal JP4 in on Multiprotocoll Module and buy seperatly Buy external ELRS Module. The stearing is exactly the same. No difference in compatibility or Menu stearing.
My god! I love my Tango 2, I really love its form factor and its ergonomics, but this new Radiomaster Boxer radio makes me feel like I'm using obsolete old gear. 150Hz FSK at 1W doesn’t give me the same feeling that we had when we used to fly at 50Hz LoRa, do you remember when after switching from Frsky we used to say “never again failsafe” back then, nevertheless 50hz is not acceptable anymore for digital FPV and this is a very tentative alternative. I wish it were as compact as the tango to be perfect. 😩
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'I'm Joshua Bardwell, and you're gonna buy something today..'
But I don't have money
Already 😂
Well put!
Can confirm. Found the video and chose to buy this as my first controller after looking at a bunch of others 😂
@@UrLocalArticTherianBestieow is it? looking to buy it as my first nice one, tired of the betafpv
if nothing else the prices deserve some applause, well done radiomaster team,
Yea crazy
If you have an external module already its just $100 for the 2500 protocol
Received my Boxer Max today! WHAT. A. FREAKING. DEAL! Fits waaaaaaay better in my hands (5'10" tall male, medium sized hands) than ANY other transmitter that I've had (Futaba, Graupner, etc.)! Again...WHAT A DEAL!!!
Got a Boxer Max in red here too. Such a great radio for the price. I love the size of it too. I wouldn't mind the colour touch screen of the TX16S but not if it means I need to lug around a bigger radio.
Once again Radiomaster has proven itself to be the best innovator of radios on the market, they’ve hit it out of the park. If I didn’t already have the tx16s and the Zorro I would definitely consider this radio as a great alternative to the other 2 wonderful radios. Great review once again Joshua, well considered and very informative. Oh no, I just realised something, today I learnt something lol.
You mixed innnovation with inspiration. Boxer mimics Mambo. Same size and almost same form factor. 4 switches & 2 pots on top, non sticking out buttons on the back. Mid sized B&W LCD on the bottom. ELRS is western innovation too. "Western" based RC companies shut down R&D expenses. Everything to be cloned is cloned. We will see "true" innovation in two years. Maybe :)
You could have 3 wonderful radios. Duh
Yes they innovated this radio
"Innovative" in that they pretty much copied the design of the TBS Mambo, as JB noted?
@@Vousie time if the month mate? 😂
The way I use the buttons on the top of my mambo is: Left button is opentx pre-arm. If left button isn't pushed down, arm switch doesn't send signal. Right button I use to toggle my super bright COB leds on/off for night flying. Like headlights.
The ONLY review I've wanted to watch on this radio .... excellent as always Joshua
I just got a Boxer in the mail and I’m loving this thing. These stock gimbals are better then the Pyro gimbals imo. They’re just lacking that cnc feel but they’re so much smoother. Can’t wait to install AG01’s. Not sorry I picked this up.
The comfort of the traditional form factor in slightly reduced size that makes the Boxer appealing is exactly why I chose the Frsky X9 Lite Pro a couple years ago; it has the hall sensor gimbals, good quality switches & controls, and the screen, while not great, is good enough. But the size/shape/ergos are perfect for me, and all the rest I can modify to suit my needs. Currently I'm using the Happymodel ES24TX Slim ExpressLRS module (the one with the Iron Man' design), and it works like a champ! I've also got a 4-in-1 module that I was going to mount internally, with an additional mini toggle to switch between it and the ELRS module in the bay. But almost everything I run uses ELRS now, plus I've recently installed the Deviation OS into a Walkera Devo-10 which will let me fly all those obscure BNF models that the 4-in-1 is for, and it's a decent radio. I don't mind having a second one for those, since I only ever run those oddball little craft (and cars) at home, so only taking the X9 Lite with me when heading out to the field. Still, the Boxer is nice, and if I didn't already have my ideal radio, I'd definitely be looking hard at it! Great review, Bardwell, as always, I'm humbled by your knowledge, your channel is THE source for info!
I'm Tim Oliver & I bought one à month ago! I'm patiently awaiting shipment along with my HDZero goggles. 1st radio & goggles! Wife thinks I'm nuts order & wait. Love your vids will buy coffee soon!
Where did you order your h d zero goggles from
I've been pretty disciplined about impulse buying for a while on FPV stuff, but I didn't even know about this radio yesterday and now have pre-ordered it.
I don’t blame you for preordering it, it looks like a great radio.
Why are you having verified symbol?
@@lokaero I have no idea. It has just shown up for years now. And it's not a real verification symbol. It must be left over from some long abandoned Google experiment.
1:41 hehe thats why we are here Bardwell, good video again! I own only Taranis qx7, and will be getting on the ELRS train with the boxer, ty radiomaster ;)
The TX16S is right for me, I like the colorful touch screen, I like the shape and size of it, and it's impressive look!😂 The Boxer is the first non-TX16S radio I've even considered switching to since I bought TX16S. I would probably benefit from the powerful ELRS module, and if it fits my hands as well as it fits JB's then that's compelling! But I'd have to get used to the boxy, slightly duller look of it, and the smaller screen. I hope they come out with premium versions of it with color options, like the TX16S! Time will tell, but right now if I upgrade I'll probably go for a TX16S with carbon fiber, and an ELRS internal module! As always, great Review JB, I'm pretty sure you answered all the questions I had about it!
Yeah pretty much the same I just ordered the tx16s jb and right after that the boxer came out and for a moment I was worried I made the Wrong decision and thought about sending it back but I have big hands and I’m a pincher and on top the purple accents and the color screen are just to cool to give up, so definitely gonna choose the tx16s
I think it would have been a win for me if they made a more "premium" version of it. keep the touch screen, improve the ergonomics of the tx16s. Or really if they just made the Tx16s shorter and kept everything else the same I'd be really happy. maybe get rid of the toggles on the top for push buttons like this and I would buy one immediately
Different USB ports for Sim and charging is a great thing.
Lipo lifespan reduces drastical when charged to 100% for a long time.
Playing on a sim would lead to that when it is the same port for charging.
The boxer can charge the lipo to 90% and then play on the sim and simply turn off the TX afterwards without the need for storage charging it afterwards or seeing the max capacity shrink down the weeks afterwards.
Seems like a QX7 competitor/spiritual successor. I really like how the QX7 feels in hand so if they make an upgraded boxer with the TX16S screen I'd be all over it.
I always thought, "hm, this would be perfect if it was just a little smaller" with my QX7. Then I got the TX16S and thought, "hm, this would be perfect if it was just a little shorter."
Jogfff
I’ve had the opportunity to hold a qx7 and it just felt like a hollow kids toy.
@@Dcscockpit it lasts longer that a tx16s which is garbo
So is it smaller than the qx7 or feels the same
I got the Jumper T-lite as my first radio and I think I'll switch to this once I have the money to spare. Definitely feels like a decent compromise between an old-school and a gamepad-style radio while also delivering some welcome new features. 1000mW ELRS internally is just too good to be true.
Me too. I have the Jumper t-lite, mainly because it's shaped like a game controller which I'm familiar with and it was cheap. I had correctly gathered that flying an fpv drone is pretty difficult and I wanted to make sure I was actually capable of flying a drone before I spent £1000 on equipment. I've played with Velocidrone for about 25 hours and It seems that I am probably likely to be able to control a real drone so it's time to start thinking about what I'll buy for real drone use. The Boxer looks spot on.
Just replaced my old trusty, crossfire modded Qx7. I had M7 and M7-R gimbals there, silicon skin, metal stand, custom stick ends, tracer module.
Ordered the ELRS Boxer, instantly fell in love with it the moment I held it.
That controller has so much going on for it. Yes! the form factor is so much more comfortable compared to ANY other radio I have held.
The gimbals feel smooth, the switches feel clicky, The battery lasts such a long time.
EdgeTX lets you customize the start/stop delay where you have to hold the button forever, which I hate on OpenTX.
All in all, the Boxer makes me enjoy flying a lot more.
I’m sticking with the tx12, everything is in reach and there are plenty of awesome upgrades that still are cheaper than the bigger radios. Ago1 minis, crossfire, and the grips make it everything I could need and more.
could you tell me some of those awesome upgrades? i was thinking i wanted this...
where do they sell upgrades for the tx12?
Love mine too! Bought some grip tape, and works great.
Second I sway this radio I knew it was for me, perfect size for me and similar to my older radio. I think I'm going to buy one!
I recently got a TX12 and I am really liking it. I've flown fixed wing for years with a full size Futaba. I started with FPV miniwhoops using a jumper t-lite. The tx12 is right in the middle like this one your reviewing. I have yet to fly it with a real quad as it's winter here and I don't have any elrs whoops. But I'm going to be using it with my bigger quads once it warms up. Judging by how I like it in sims, I think it's going to be my daily.
I bought some grip tape for the TX12, and it is amazing now.
Still rocking my QX7. Battery mod incl. charging port. 400kbaud mod for ELRS. It does it all at a great size. But I've got to say if my QX7 failed I'd replace it with the Boxer.
today my QX7 broke and I bought the boxer :D
Tx16s: best interface for programming and aircraft management. Jumper T-pro: best flight ergonmics for me. Seems like the menu navigation of the Boxer is similar to that of the T-pro. I have both and I generally use the TX16s for larger builds and T-pro for whoops. Great time to be an FPV pilot.
I was on the fence about the Zorro because of the battery setup. I really like the form factor of this radio. This seems to be perfect for my quads. ELRS, here I come 😁
Ya I end up charging my zorro after every other time out flying
That moment when you thought you had a radio picked out after weeks of research, then they release another🤦🏻♂️. Think I’m gonna go with the Tx16s Max anyways. Joshua Bardwell style baby. 🤘🏻
The boxer is the radio that TBS refused to make. My mambo money is now boxer money. I'll be getting the 4in1 version and plugging crossfire into the bay. Happy days.
As a Mambo user all I can say is that Trappy will love this radio. Lol
Radiomaster is defo the most innovative RC radio company out here, their radios are really great
My dream radio is something that has the innovations of Radiomaster, and design of FrSky (I’m talking about the Horus line, especially X12S, I only want to buy that radio because of its design)
I really love my Zorro and I am very happy with it. However, if I should select one new radio this Boxer would be the best candidate. It looks amazing!
Cheers guys
Honestly, Joshua... I think I'm in love with this radio! 😂
I still rock the X9D, but I've been looking for a replacement for a while... I was between the Zorro and the TX16S. But this one is perfect!
Anyway, fantastic review as always!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I still not sure if it's even a upgrade to replace x9d. But then again I'm a helicopter and planes flyer. x9d is still a great radio. I think it would be a downgrade. Upgrade would be x9d to Radio Master tx16s. I own Taranis but love better tx16s due to color screen. It's also touch screen. Taranis still a great radio. Still have lot of switches, slider. And it is louder. That is a big boo for tx16s. Another thing I couldn't sync sound to boot screen. What I mean is I couldn't delay the boot screen. It boot's up fairly fast to the ui and with Taranis there was a delay feature that is adjustible. But this new radio looks great. I bet feels lot better then Tx16s. Tx16s I got use to it but it's huge. I have to reach farther then Taranis or Futaba 14sg. But this is good fairly good can do so much then many spektrum or most when it comes to programing and modification.
Another thing is wish they added slider. I hope for the future I hope Radio Master don't get rid of like the setup of Tx16s. Sliders, rotary nobs, shape because there is still lot of plane and helicopter flyer's.
@@rcrotorfreak Oh, no doubt about that. But I travel a lot and the smaller size seems great! I was seriously thinking about getting the Zorro, but the battery issue... You know?
And I wouldn't burn the X9D or something... 😬
I would still have it if I ever needed. 😊
Let me give you a run down from a drone pilot...
So i upgraded from using the x9d with m9s for 5 years (since 2017) to the tx16s
Let me start by saying the gimbals are a whole heck of a lot better. I didn't expect this to be the case since I bought the m9s and the gimbals I use are the v1s of this gimbal, but they feel so much more smooth and the throw is more.
The ergonomics made me love this radio. Even though its just a box, the way they put the sliders compared to the x9d (I hated the sliders on that thing cause my fingers would go on top of them and feel super awkward) was amazing. my fingers split to the sides so i dont feel it at all (I pinch/hybrid grip) The battery life is crzy using the 5000mah LIion from RM, and considering this has a 6200mah and is a b&w screen should be so much better.
so basically I didnt expect it to be this good, but it is
-Better gimbals
-Better ergonomics
I'm thinking of getting the boxer since I don't need the color screen (and frankly i never wanted it) but I use the top left shoulder switch for arming so I would have to get used to having it moved
I also only have a mark I tx16s so having an internal elrs module would be very nice
@@kylechang8610 Very good points. Thanks for sharing your experience! 🖖😊
I’m gonna own this radio, no hesitation!
NICE ONE JOSHUA!!!!
As you were leading up to the radio looking like the Mamba . I Was saying out loud you mean like the mamba???? Then boom you did the radio switch and I was laughing out loud 😂 !!!!
Nice one ☝️!!!!
I'll probably be getting this. I wish they had a "premium" version like the tx16s max with different faceplates, grips and ag01 gimbals. But it will come eventually because this product will be popular.
I bought a TX16S JB Edition and I literally love it (it is gorgeous)... but as my daily driver I tend to use a Jumper T-Lite ELRS, simply because I won't cry if I by any chance it gets lost, stolen or destroyed.
Funny. I just came across this review after ordering the Boxer yesterday. Confirmation that I made the right choice.
I think the Boxer would make an excellent first radio, for me at least. Yes, I use your links, it's the least I could do. Never let it be said I don't do the least I could do.
Having a jumper t12 pro for several years now, this radio is very appealing to me. Probably my next upgrade.
I learned something today: Gimbel's was a department store that had a rivalry with Macy's, and started the oldest Thanksgiving day parade in America. Oh yeah, and I will own this radio.
Looks great like the the smaller form factor but... I'll be staying with my tx16s it's just got more going on.
Can you do a quick side by side (size) comparison of the Boxer radio and the TX12? After more consideration. I think I like the boxer better than the TX12 only because of the potentiometers. I'm thinking the left shoulder switch @ 8:00 would make a good "Air Mode" switch. That strap on the back.????? For real?!
I still have two T12 Pros for exactly the same reasons! I love the compact fit! I have a T18 Pro that is a great radio, but it is a big sucker!
Watching now, hope you compared it side by side with the mambo....cant wait to see
That screen looks just like the one on my Teranis Qx7, which has worked fine for me for the past few years. This looks like something I might buy.
The option for 1W internal ExpressLRS power output makes this radio a game changer. No need to spend more money for a external module to increase power
I waiting for couple of mounths to upgrade my radio and finally Joshua you give me a great news ... it is small it is compact good battery all i need 🙂 thanks Joshua for the review 😉 Good to think ... if i buy elrs version ... i will save money i want to need external elrs and i have the 1 Watt bonus 😉 people will they buy the Ranger ELRS anymore? If they give a really good radio +1 watt internal
Charger and data over the same port is a function of circut design which is directly related to cost in other words if you could charge more and get the higher price it would be there...
Thanks for the great review Joshua!🚀
Man I got my zorro a few months ago. I’m eventually gonna have to add this to my collection to use. Tx16s max and zorro so fsr
I have your version of the tx16s and I think it will be perfect for quite some time 😎
i just bought a tbs mambo ethix months ago and now im contemplating on selling or trading cause i dont even want to dive into the tracer life. been waiting for something like this
Most of your comments regarding ergonomics and switchology also apply to the TX12 MkII. What's the antenna you have on the Boxer? Is that an upgrade to the little stick types that come on many other radios, including the TX12. I'm asking because I wonder if I'll want to upgrade the one on my TX12.
While it may not be in the same class or size Transmitter the Commando8 900Mhz(900 is why I have it) will go up to 1Watt with built in cooling. That said I am considering changing as I want/need more channels
🤣🤣 the scene with the mambo. Been wanting one for so long but then this radio came out. Instant win for me. 1W ELRS internal
Is it possible to fit somehow a real switch instead that shoulder buttons? I use my old Jumper T12 Pro and I love that switches. I use the left one as my arm switch and the right as a turtle mode. This Boxer looks nice, but I can't use a radio without those switches.
Looks nice. Already have 2.... well 1.8 Mambos and a RMtx16s(broke a gimbal before replacements were available so I use it for parts) so there that is. Besides I have yet to get anything with ExLRS also
What about tx12?
Fun fact: was looking for a smaller radio than the TX16S. Wanted the Zorro as a second driver for months. Saved up and bought the luminier edition. The moment I hit purchase, I went on TH-cam and saw the Boxer was out. Damn it.
Daaamn 😂
I need this thing. I was about to order the Ranger for my Mambo when I saw this. That radio ist just what I need!
left press switch could be for throttle cut, right momentary switch could be for panic button...
im a brand new noob, havent bought a plane yet. i wanted to start with an end all transmitter then get planes.
As a thumber,, I'm in love with my x-lite.
I'll still take the TX16S with an external module for a daily drone flyer (and the X20 for fixed wing) but can see how this could be very appealing to a LOT of ppl.
Why x20 for fixed wing vs Tx16s? I ask because I'm a fixed wing flyer and helicopter flyer. Tx16s is great all around. I myself would chose tx16s vs this radio. I Just hope Radio Master don't get rid of radio like Tx16s because they been focusing to much on drone pilot. Like for example this doesn't have slider, have those push button on top right and left.
FrSky X20 is a work of art, best constructive quality among the countless radios I've tried and the operation is rock solid. You are very well served.
@@rcrotorfreak In my humble opinion, x20 is another level of radio, just test the sliders and you will see they (x20 x tx16s) don't play in the same league. In more detail: the screen has higher resolution and brightness, the switches are of better quality, the processor is much stronger and the constructive quality in general is also superior.
I have a Zorro that I put a lot of money and love into, and... I'm almost swayed. The 1W output power is really compelling for someone like I who wants to switch to EP2 receivers for all quads except those purpose-built for long range.
That's the only thing I don't like about the speed of development in the FPV world, it seems like every time I buy something a cooler thing gets released right afterward. I got a Jumper T16 to replace my Turnigy 9X right before the TX16S came out
Can’t you just get a nano external TX module to solve that problem? That’s what I’m doing
@@grandpa_stanley7813 I thought about that too, but then you’d need to add an external battery pack or else you’ll only get about 30-50mins of flight time
True. Thinking of getting an extra 2s battery to strap on the bottom of the radio for that reason. That’s my only issue of the Zorro besides those weird wheel switches on the back
I’m using a 2s battery Velcro’ed to the back. Super easy and a looooong use.
14:01 you going learning something today
Just watched mad techs review on this as well! This radio sure sounds like a win and is a great price!! Now to watch the getting started with express
Was wondering when your review was gonna drop JB as we’d seen everyone else’s by now but wanted to hear it from the know it all himself for sure 👌 👍
I already have the Zorro. Like this one. May be my next one!
Bought with elrs built-in and 4 in one external module using you link. Thx.
I just haven't had great experience with ELRS. You make it sound like it's so great and reliable and it always makes me feel sad like I've missed out on something. 1watt 50hz and I'm failsafing on the regular on multiple quads and way before vtx range runs out....
That really shouldn't be happening. I suggest jumping on the ELRS discord server and see if they can figure out what's wrong with your hardware or your configuration.
@@JoshuaBardwell Yah i’ve been on discord with them and even directly with a developer for months. I’m flying a lot commercially indoors and around manufacturing sites so something just isn’t translating with 2.4 in that scenario…
I was thinking to replace flysky fs i6x to something and tho Boxer looks to be perfect match with 4in module. TX16S looks great but could be little heavy and to big. Maybe i will give a chance to bixer. JR modules are great to have, i can buy ELRS in future if needed... hmmm
Looks great, but sticking with my Mambo despite it’s quality challenges. One of the big wins with Mambo is that you don’t need an antenna. Small radio, big sticky out antenna.
Internally seems to be a ufl connector, will convert my boxer to internal once it arrive.
Ended up snagging one of these with the 4-in-1 internal to cover all my old receivers, and under the assumption that since ELRS is under active development, I'll probably want to be able to swap out to a newer external module as the standard progresses and becomes more capable on the hardware side, without having to re-buy the TX.
The screen is less of a problem as most of my model setup will probably be done through the EdgeTX Companion software; the chances of needing to do anything more than minor edits in the field are pretty low. I do kind of wonder if anyone will come out with an OLED or IPS replacement mod, as the ghosting on the LCD is pretty unpleasant to look at, even if it's still totally usable. Hoping to set up a quick-view "widget" type screen with all my most important at-a-glance stuff, as the default stick and switch position display is kind of useless for day-to-day, only really helpful in case of checking on a control hardware failure.
Great feel in larger hands! Really gives you something to solidly GRIP, while keeping everything within easy reach. The sharpness of the edges of the shoulder buttons on press-in is less great though; I'd have preferred the buttons to stand proud and drop to flush when depressed, rather than sinking into the body and presenting that sharp lip. It does make them harder to accidentally hit though, so tradeoffs there.
Likewise hope that Radiomaster will break up the six-position switch into individual button capability like with the Jumper... I was under the assumption that EdgeTX would control that. Apparently not. :/
I'd just bought a T-lite to learn about Express LRS and EdgeTX. Now I know what's my next radio will be.
I liked the size of my old X9 lite, but I've had no complaints with the size of my TX16S, with exception of traveling with it. It doesn't fit well in my backpack.
Bardwell side eying the Mambo saying “we’re just going to set this over in the corner” was funny😂😂😂
Seriously… said the same.. although, i was considering offloading my tx16s instead 🤷🏻♂️
@@JThemelis I hear that! I have a Mambo, Tango 2, Nirvana and Dji "brick" v1 radio and a Taranis X9D still needing to go as well lol. It's crazy.. They all are missing like 1 or 2 things to bring them to the usefulness that this Boxer radio seems to be. I've been rocking the Tx12 v2 for a bit, really liking it.. But I really wanted a Mambo form factor, but one that would run on EdgeTX and have gimbals that could run the latest and greatest Elrs. I think a lot of people will probably be selling off their radios right about now too lol.
Sold. My Zorro with the 1w module and 5000mah battery strapped onto it just doesn't feel the greatest. This has that all built in.
Lots to sort through. Kinda gave up flying for the last 2 years because of Transport Canada's garbage. Built a couple sub 250 rigs. Coming back into this from Taranis, not caring what Frsky is offering anymore. ELRS seems to be far more stable. Now the torn part. Boxer VS TX16S....
Wish radiomaster would release a swappable internal ELRS module so I can replace it with the 4in1 in my older TX16s
They just did! But I can't find where it's for sale...
@@JoshuaBardwell 😯😯😁 I’ll definitely keep my eyes open for it then 👍🏽👍🏽
@@JoshuaBardwell Pyrodrone has the internal ELRS module! It says compatible with Mark2. Any idea if you can still put it in pre mark 2 TX16S?
If the top corners were angled a bit those top push buttons would be in better position. Wait, that's a QX7.
As someone who’s played too much Velocidrone I’ve got hundreds of hours clocked, I quite like the fact I wasn’t charging the battery for all that time.
Boxer looks amazing, struggling not to pull the trigger on one.
I love my tx16s and was thinking about something smaller but the boxer doesn't fit the bill. Looks like a great radio to buy though.
i fly an fs-i6x cause thats the only thing can afford but i have always liked the mambo especially cause Mr steel uses it but its way more expensive. but the boxer looks like a really good option it has elrs and u can upgrade the gimblas so i would love to own one
It’s easier to have the kill motor disarm switch on the tx16s on the back left for me anyhow flying towards the back beacuse I use my thumbs - the games are super cool though. Awsome review as always Josh 😊
I mean.. if the only thing worth paying double the price is the touch screen.. thx, just ordered a boxer!
Im so sad i just bought the tx16s like 2 months ago for my first radio and now I can’t return it anymore😭😭
Same
Youve got a good radio… you’ll just go broke trying keep up with every hyped product.
If you are in this hobby for the long haul, you'll wind up with half a dozen radios and its always good to have a spare.
@@creationlabsinc.189 facts 😂
@@scottyd035ntknow yes your correct. I was heavily into fixed wings in the 80’s and most of the 90’s. I’ve got a museum of radios in the attic. JR was my goto back then.
Finally a worthy successor of the QX7. Is the migration of models easy and straightforward?
Alright I'm in. Let's see how long this back order takes to fill.
Okay JB here is the question, for my first Radiomaster radio which should it be? I am not going to worry about the money (very unusual for me) as it will be my 70 birthday birthday present to myself. I have already decided that the TX16s Mk2 is doable but now you tell me it might not be the king of the Radiomaster hill? Please advise here.
separated charging and data ports conserve battery - i've damaged like 2 or 3 batteries playing with FS-i10... my vote will have any company that will make radio with "battery saver" - charge it only when voltage drops below given value...
Looks like this new radio has just the right ergonomics for me. I do find my TX16S just a little bit awkward particularly if not using the neck strap. However, the lack of flick switches on the shoulders of the Boxer is unfortunately a deal breaker for me. I’ve been arming/ disarming with those shoulder switches for too many years now, and can’t see myself doing it any other way! 😂 For that reason, this radio sadly wouldn’t be useful to me even as a back-up.
I felt the same way until I spent time using the Mambo. Those flush buttons are great. Never looking back.
@@dr0n3droid hmmmm perhaps I’ll give it a try 😊
I for years use to neck strap on all radio. It feel silly if I don't use and drop it to the ground. That happen to me once i drop my radio and crash my helicopter lol. Close to 1000 dollar worth of repair. Neck strap should be what everyone should use. Extra insurance.
@@ayoaina_fpv Worth mentioning that hand size will play a factor. Bardwell mentioned having to change hand position to press the button. 8:02 My ring fingers extend considerably past the buttons and I've found it better to press with the middle of my finger rather than the tip.
Looking forward to trying out the Boxer.
I would‘ve bought it but the deep gimbals with a ring around it is a deal breaker for me. I always hit the case with my index finger because I‘m pinching. Actually there two radios only I van use without that problem, the NV14 and the TBS Mambo. Radiomaster should make a case for all the pincher out there with the gimbal base being flat with the casing and without that ring.
I was trying to tighten up the tension on my throttle. It definitely looks like there's grease on there.
Well there is a v2 of the boxer now other than the clear case. Soon there will be a bardwell boxer edition.
This is the perfect radio for ELRS (and also tx12) since elrs only have 12 channels. Tx16s have more switch than what elrs can transmit with elrs.
Can you pls make a video what drone flying control protocol (and what is the essence of digital vs analog- I understand it is about the camera and not the control of the drone) to go with and how to interpret spec data in that regard when buying a drone from flywoo and other online stores for noooobs. Thank you
Awesome review 🙂 That Boxer should have had a color screen 🙂
♥️ Radiomaster Boxer Max ❤
Just got mine today. Probably the BEST RC deal I've ever seen. LOVE IT!
Excellent roast with the TBS bit 🔥 But no comparison with the Mambo?
Does it feel kinda like the QX-7? I just bought the TX-16 because my X-7 gave up, I may have bought the boxer if it had been out, but I do like the touch color screen. A boxer with a color touch screen, and better switches would have been nice.
Tetris? Any calculator can do it. I thought the standard for performance was can it run doom :-)
@JoshuaBardwell I tried your affiliate link to purchase a Tx. It asks to choose between FCC and LBT region. It would be helpful to have your explanation and guidance on choosing a region.
What I gathered from a Reddit discussion is that LBT is for EU, and FCC is for the USA. Also, due to implementation difference, LBT gets you at least 20% better performance over FCC BUT then Elrs goes only upto 100mw and not 1000w.
I'll wait till I hear from you. Thank you
I would ever buy the internal JP4 in on Multiprotocoll Module and buy seperatly Buy external ELRS Module. The stearing is exactly the same. No difference in compatibility or Menu stearing.
My god! I love my Tango 2, I really love its form factor and its ergonomics, but this new Radiomaster Boxer radio makes me feel like I'm using obsolete old gear. 150Hz FSK at 1W doesn’t give me the same feeling that we had when we used to fly at 50Hz LoRa, do you remember when after switching from Frsky we used to say “never again failsafe” back then, nevertheless 50hz is not acceptable anymore for digital FPV and this is a very tentative alternative. I wish it were as compact as the tango to be perfect. 😩