I bought the same for making product clips for reviews. It works well on both table top and rails. Rails though you have to be careful that it doesn't fall off! I couldn't afford a full time slider.
OMG thank you sooooo much for telling us this! The "Grip Gear Directors Set" includes not just a motor that can be attached to a track, but that same motor can also be used to be converted into a 3-wheel dolly setup, just like the Neewer or Andoer in the above video!
I wonder how camera weight would affect the steadiness of the shot. Not sure if lighter or heavier would be better. While not the best results, for the price it is amazing.
You can have a back and forth movement as I showed in the video, but I can agree that it would be cool to set the Start and End points, so it would perform the movement at its own.
Let's say it was a super calm morning. :) But yes, air for the leaves would have been nice. Will have to keep such details in minds if or when I create another scene like that. Thanks!
Great video. Have you tried mounting a gimbal onto it? You might get smoother result right out of the camera. But I’d definitely want to tried this gadget out.
I haven't tried it, because the first thought that comes to mind is that a gimbal would be to big and heavy for the motorized camera dolly. But I will give it a try for scientific purposes upcoming week and let you know how it went. A camera gimbal could be to big for this thing, but probably a smartphone gimbal with a smartphone could be just fine, but still have to test that as well.
Thank you for the idea! Did you shoot this commercial with minimal speed? I wonder if it’s possible to have this really slow and smooth push-ins with shallow depth of fields of macro lenses
@@jameswarrenpersonal4720 You're welcome! Yes, there is definitely a good use for it in some cases and these cans have helped me to achieve the look in various projects.
nice video! Does this slider support the weight of a 90d + a 24-70 2.8 USM II? I bought a manual slider from neewer long time ago that was similar to this but despite the specs stating that it supported up to 5kg, my camera was falling forward all the times....
I haven't used it with such camera setup, so I can just guess. I used Sony a7iv with a camera cage, and that would be more or less in the size and weight of your camera. But the lens I used was Sigma 28-70 F2.8, and it is lighter and shorter than Canon 24-70 2.8 USM II. At the same time, your setup doesn't seem to be extremely heavy, and I would guess that it should be fine. Especially if the lens points in the direction where the two wheels are, the weight should even. out.
I have a similar one but with the brand called "king joy". Yours seems more robust since I was never able to repeat perfectly the same movement twice with mine. I have used it for product videos as a mini slider / dolly but haven't been able to use it for combining different shots like you have done here. Did you have any issues aligning the different shots in post?
Well I wouldn't say it is super easy to repeat the exact same movement, but with a little bit of patience and adjustments it is definitely doable. And I just love the fact that it can be done with this gadget that costs so little. When it comes to post production the easiest way to align the shots is by placing them on top of each other and lowering the opacity for the clip that is above. Then moving the clip and looking for the moment that aligns. These clips will definitely need some stabilization in post to be buttery smooth. And that is the moment when it gets tricky. Because after warp stabilization there can be some difference in the scale. But with little bit of scaling in and repositioning it can be done. And above all, before filming, you want make sure that the surface you are using for the mini dolly is smooth and even, because any small bumps can cause the dolly to shake or change trajectory and you won't be able to create that repetitive motions. Hope this helps! :)
@@MikusAustersthanks for the reply. I think the time I tried that I was using a not 100% smooth surface so I'll need to try it again and see how it goes.
If you mean for the cheese commercial, then zooming would be a different kind of movement than sliding, and doing it handheld wouldn't be as smooth and even. As for the oter project, the same thing plus rotation and being able to achieve exactly the same movement at least twice or even more.
Yeah I get the creative effect, but sometimes the simplest techniques also work. In the old days pulleys were common, also moving platforms/fixed camera, still you did a good pro looking job with it anyway. Watch the making of the original blade runner movie, last of the analogue film production magic, before CGI took over. @@MikusAusters
If you were referring to the shot at 1:17 then true, I don't have BTS footage of that particular project. But I suggest you to watch the whole video as it has more BTS and footage shot using the slider. Including clips with the slider working on the table. :D
Batteries on these pos sliders would die suddenly or not long after purchase. The shaking of the wheels is also evident in the footages. Making a video like this just to get affiliate links $$$ going is shameful. Please remove this video.
It's sad to hear you have had bad experience with these mini motorized dollies, but I haven't experienced any battery issues with my dolly. As for the shakiness, yes it is a bit shaky, but it can be fixed in post and I cover that in the video as well. In the end this is not a pro level tool and if it would be perfect in every way it would cost a LOT more, but at the same time it is a budget level tool that can be used for certain things and has been useful in my work for specific things. That is what the video is about. So I think you are over reacting here. :)
This helps me to achieve smooth footage for product commercials - th-cam.com/video/GWYFdlJ8luA/w-d-xo.html
The commercial looks dope!👌🏾
Much appreciated! Cheers!
Love the idea to attach a light on the dolly for certain shots. Thank you!
You're welcome! 🙌🏼
I bought the same for making product clips for reviews. It works well on both table top and rails. Rails though you have to be careful that it doesn't fall off! I couldn't afford a full time slider.
Yeah. This is a good budget version.
I'm lactose intolerant. But with your commercial, I'm sold on on cheese now. 😅. Great work!
Now that's a compliment! 😀
Cheers man!
@@MikusAusters cheers! 🍻
Grip Gear has one also. Has similar wheeled setup but also has an extendable track so you can do vertical and horizontal track motions.
Oh yeah, that's pretty cool. I wonder how smooth it is with a relatively small mirorless setup.
OMG thank you sooooo much for telling us this! The "Grip Gear Directors Set" includes not just a motor that can be attached to a track, but that same motor can also be used to be converted into a 3-wheel dolly setup, just like the Neewer or Andoer in the above video!
A forest don't have a black background, but it looks good, nice video man.
True, true. Thanks a lot!
It may not but from time to time it sure looks like it does.
I wonder how camera weight would affect the steadiness of the shot. Not sure if lighter or heavier would be better. While not the best results, for the price it is amazing.
I already have Ulanzi ST-03 I'm gonna try it with my phone! I'm so excited thank you!!! also your work is incredible!
Thank you so much! 🙌🏼
You gave me some good ideas. Thanks, Mikus.
Awesome! I'm happy to hear that!
I wish these had a back and forth option so it would run continuously back and forth.
You can have a back and forth movement as I showed in the video, but I can agree that it would be cool to set the Start and End points, so it would perform the movement at its own.
need some movement on the leaves like natural air blowing lightly. Air does exist as maybe drops of rain on the leaves but at least air
Let's say it was a super calm morning. :) But yes, air for the leaves would have been nice. Will have to keep such details in minds if or when I create another scene like that. Thanks!
Great video. Have you tried mounting a gimbal onto it? You might get smoother result right out of the camera. But I’d definitely want to tried this gadget out.
I haven't tried it, because the first thought that comes to mind is that a gimbal would be to big and heavy for the motorized camera dolly. But I will give it a try for scientific purposes upcoming week and let you know how it went.
A camera gimbal could be to big for this thing, but probably a smartphone gimbal with a smartphone could be just fine, but still have to test that as well.
Too heavy, can confirm it handles smaller DSLR well but can't get a decent payload
@@MikusAusters so how is was?
another jonas brother?
🤫 don't tell anyone, I'm undercover 😁
Thank you for the idea!
Did you shoot this commercial with minimal speed?
I wonder if it’s possible to have this really slow and smooth push-ins with shallow depth of fields of macro lenses
Yes, I think I usually use it on the minimal spead. The cheese commercial was filmed on the slowest mode, so that can be as a reference for the speed.
Interesting product. It ought to de described as a mini dolly rather than a slider though...
True, I could agree with that.
Maybe creating a compound clip of the two shots before stabilization would be better?
I think I tried that, but the stabilisation got cosnfused/weird because of the fading.
Great result, great breakdown! Thank you for the video
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers!
Nice video Brother. Thank you.
Much appreciated! Cheers!
Very useful
Glad to hear that! Cheers!
Do you think this motorizer will be steady enough to put a long tripod on it for head shot scenes ?
No, I don't think that will work. It is way too small for that.
Hi, I am interested in what you used to mist the room. I notices someone with a spray can. what product is this please
That is Atmosphere Aerosol (Haze in a Can). There is a link to it in the description as well.
@@MikusAusters thanks, always wondered how you do it without spending a fortune
@@jameswarrenpersonal4720 You're welcome! Yes, there is definitely a good use for it in some cases and these cans have helped me to achieve the look in various projects.
How does it compare to dl300?
Honestly, I have no idea since I haven't used that one yet. But maybe I should. :)
Well, if I will, then there's going to be a video about it ;)
nice video! Does this slider support the weight of a 90d + a 24-70 2.8 USM II? I bought a manual slider from neewer long time ago that was similar to this but despite the specs stating that it supported up to 5kg, my camera was falling forward all the times....
I haven't used it with such camera setup, so I can just guess. I used Sony a7iv with a camera cage, and that would be more or less in the size and weight of your camera. But the lens I used was Sigma 28-70 F2.8, and it is lighter and shorter than Canon 24-70 2.8 USM II. At the same time, your setup doesn't seem to be extremely heavy, and I would guess that it should be fine. Especially if the lens points in the direction where the two wheels are, the weight should even. out.
@@MikusAusters Thanks a lot for your super fast reply!!!!
Very sick 🤌
Thanks 🔥
I have a similar one but with the brand called "king joy". Yours seems more robust since I was never able to repeat perfectly the same movement twice with mine. I have used it for product videos as a mini slider / dolly but haven't been able to use it for combining different shots like you have done here. Did you have any issues aligning the different shots in post?
Well I wouldn't say it is super easy to repeat the exact same movement, but with a little bit of patience and adjustments it is definitely doable. And I just love the fact that it can be done with this gadget that costs so little. When it comes to post production the easiest way to align the shots is by placing them on top of each other and lowering the opacity for the clip that is above. Then moving the clip and looking for the moment that aligns. These clips will definitely need some stabilization in post to be buttery smooth. And that is the moment when it gets tricky. Because after warp stabilization there can be some difference in the scale. But with little bit of scaling in and repositioning it can be done.
And above all, before filming, you want make sure that the surface you are using for the mini dolly is smooth and even, because any small bumps can cause the dolly to shake or change trajectory and you won't be able to create that repetitive motions. Hope this helps! :)
@@MikusAustersthanks for the reply. I think the time I tried that I was using a not 100% smooth surface so I'll need to try it again and see how it goes.
@@AndresArosemena Definitely. Makes a huge difference.
Great video but please dim the light on your right just a little. thank you.
Thanks! 👍🏼
I like it
Nice video! What product did you use for the fog?
Thanks a lot! I used Atmosphere Aerosol for that.
Ah yes I know that one, I thought maybe you used something different. Thanks anyway for the answer @@MikusAusters 😄
Cheers! 😉
Can you attach a Blackmagic 6k on those?
Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test it with Blackmagic 6k.
Too heavy.
"A-whale-able"
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you cant act shirt
Why not just zoom/use a human hand.
If you mean for the cheese commercial, then zooming would be a different kind of movement than sliding, and doing it handheld wouldn't be as smooth and even. As for the oter project, the same thing plus rotation and being able to achieve exactly the same movement at least twice or even more.
Yeah I get the creative effect, but sometimes the simplest techniques also work. In the old days pulleys were common, also moving platforms/fixed camera, still you did a good pro looking job with it anyway. Watch the making of the original blade runner movie, last of the analogue film production magic, before CGI took over. @@MikusAusters
Where is your wit.. that you didn't show its videos footage that how it works.. on table.. 😂 u showed only result...
If you were referring to the shot at 1:17 then true, I don't have BTS footage of that particular project. But I suggest you to watch the whole video as it has more BTS and footage shot using the slider. Including clips with the slider working on the table. :D
Batteries on these pos sliders would die suddenly or not long after purchase. The shaking of the wheels is also evident in the footages. Making a video like this just to get affiliate links $$$ going is shameful. Please remove this video.
It's sad to hear you have had bad experience with these mini motorized dollies, but I haven't experienced any battery issues with my dolly. As for the shakiness, yes it is a bit shaky, but it can be fixed in post and I cover that in the video as well. In the end this is not a pro level tool and if it would be perfect in every way it would cost a LOT more, but at the same time it is a budget level tool that can be used for certain things and has been useful in my work for specific things. That is what the video is about. So I think you are over reacting here. :)
Nice video. I have the NEEWER slider already and I have the edelkrone SurfaceONE, but this video gave me nice ideas. I'm now your sub 855th
Much appreciated! I am happy to hear this video sparked some ideas. Cheers!