I agree with your comment at the end of the video about originally recommending a single stage press to a beginners. In this day and age, the price between a good single stage press and a turrent press is not that great. I now recommend a turrent press as a starting press, and it will probability be all the press most reloaders will ever need.
Just bought this press in addition to my thirty-plus year old RCBS Rock Chucker II single stage press. That will work well for my loading semiauto pistol cartridges. Just need to configure a way to install my Uniflow powder measure on one of the stations so it activates with a pull of the press lever. You're spot-on here my friend. I seldom ever load more than a hundred rounds at a time anyway, so I really don't need a space age looking setup, that rivals anything in the transporter room of the starship Enterprise...and costs as much as a NASA designed onboard toilet. 😕
@@OhioGunRunner Just ordered the Lee Auto Drum Powder Measure, and the universal Lee Powder Die set. Some of my dies are RCBS and Hornady. They don't come with a powder through style expander die for pistol cartridges. I assume I'll have to expand with those in a separate step using their die, then drop the charge through one of the universal dies installed in the measure, at another station. No biggie...Hell, I got 8! 😄 Two questions. What is the black strapping attached around the turret head of your press? What is it for and how do I get one? Also, did you disable the manual powder drop enabling the safety that prevents double charges (I don't see you manipulating anything prior to activating the powder station) or has Lee discontinued the feature? Thanks!
@@bustabass9025 sent you the link for the 3D printed handle. It allows you put a handle at any location. My powder measure has been set up for a while now. I do not remember having to disable the safety just never used the chain. Don’t hold me to that check the manual. It was easy to set up and is incredibly repeatable.
I started reloading on a dillon XL750 a year ago. I added a lyman ideal brass smith single stage press for pulling bullets depriming and removing primer pocket crimps and 8 caliber conversion kits. The caliber conversion change over is not so bad. My wife constantly interrupts me while I'm reloading so the dillon XL750 is the best thing for me I'm am seriously interested in adding another press and I'm leaning toward the lyman all American 8 turret press
I used a Dillon 550 for years and I had no issues changing calibers. It takes about 10-15 minutes max. Plus I could load 400+ per hour, or slow it down to 50/hr doing quality rifle ammo. I started on the with the 550 and find it to be an amazing press for beginners or experience reloaders because you have control.
Thanks for showing us your setup. I owned a Dillon years ago when I lived in Oz. They are amazing, that said, the cost is also high. I may have to do what you have as a stop gap as I don't have the budget for a Dillon or the space.
That’s pretty slick. I’m just getting started and got the Lyman Turret and Lyman powered measure but I think I’m going to return the powder measure and go with the Lee. My only concern is using this setup with extruded powder.
It isn't a Dillon killer. However it does not cost as much as a Dillon. If one has the money the Dillon is much better set up. Having said that you have a very efficient less costly loading system. I compliment you on that. I bought my Dillon years ago and I am glad I did I don't think I could afford it with todays prices and retired. The Lyman Turret you are using is considered the best press for the money today. I am considering one myself to set up for bullet pulling, de-priming and other things I need to do occasionally even some resizing that isn't set up on my Dillon tool heads. Nice video.
I reload like this on my Lyman Spar-T using a Lee Auto Drum. I use a bullet feed die as well and prime off press. I have a bullet kicker system I "engineered" as well. That means I touch brass once to feed the beast and move along. I can crank out 5 rnds/min easy when I am focused. I agree that semi-progressive is not a "Dillon killer" but it is quick and prone to less headaches for sure. Add the mini bullet feeder and you'll be even more productive.
You got a good system there sir! I suppose that if I want speed, I'll still use my progressive. I do like my Lyman Single stage BrassSmith. But, everyone has different needs... so, like anything else, tweek to your satisfaction.
The right tool for the job. I use my progressive for 9 40 38 45 223. Bulk range ammo and typically load 500 plus rounds at a time. I use my turret for my magnum handgun where I load 1-200ds in a session. I use my single stage for my rifle hunting/precision rifle stuff where I’m weighing every powder charge. I think a turret is the best all around press for doing everything.
I notice that you do not have the press mounted priming system attached to the press. Neither do I. What do you use to prime with? I have a RCBS uniflow with a case activated powder charger. The same thing but different. I use a RCBS automatic bench mounted priming tool. I size and deprime. Prime up a 100 cases, then flare, powder fill, seat and then crimp. The thoughts you expressed about the turret press in this video mirror mine as well. I am glad I purchased the Lyman 8 station turret press. How do you like your press?
Don't you get different powder weights because of the turret's shaking? I have a TMag2 and I'm thinkg on installing the Lee Auto Drum on the Lee Expander die. But have seen some videos with concerns about powder measures mounted on turret presses.
My traditional powder measure mounted on the turret was effected by the turret motion but the Lee auto drum was not. I was using Alliant BE86 and could not make it mess up.
I have the Lyman turret press with a lee auto drum and have had no problem with the powder drop weights. Works great so far no complaints, just make sure you mount the press on a solid surface and your good to go!
I always liked the turret presses more than progressives. Fairly fast, simple, and no progressives headaches. I prefer Lee classic turret press with auto index
The Lee classic turret is an outstanding good press. I love mine but for quantity 9mm I use a Lee auto breech lock pro progressive press(will upgrade to the six pack pro) I have to say once I got my progressive I don’t load that much on my turret anymore. Also the Lee turret is not in the same class as other turret presses because of the auto indexing. It’s not better, but for different applications than conventional turret presses Next for me will still be a 3rd single stage press. I have lots of space so I keep all my presses mounted for their specific use so for me I rather buy another single stage than a conventional turret, if I had less space I’d get a good turret like the Lyman
@@RealMrSmit it can’t compete with a progressive if you sit down for one hour and crank out ammo. I shoot a load of 9mm and soon 45acp. Instead of doing it all at once, I leave my press set up and I’ll go down to my garage and make a quick 5 rounds. Doing this throughout the day a few days a week adds up fast and feels like I’m not doing any tedious reloading. I was gonna get the six pack pro. It looks reliable and seems to function great and fast. But I learned my lesson with progressives. The turret’s simplicity is something I love. Machine that does everything. Just need to find some more primers.
Not a Dillon killer by any means. Dillon 550 is far surperior for rifle cartridges . Lyman has too much flex for consistent full length case resizing of rifle cartridges. Lyman can compete with a Dillon 550 for loading pistol cartridges. Add the Lee bullet feeder for even more efficiency of movement. I love Lee. I've learned to use Lee progressive and turret press to speed up my batch style reloading. I do not prime and powder charge on a press . Im too anal for that. SAFTY , RELIABILITY, AND ACCURACY are my main objective in that order. Speed is my 4th objective. I get the same accracy from my turret and progressive press hand loads as I did in the days I was a benchrest rifle competitor useing Wilson hand dies. I can't get away from hand priming by feel with my old cheap Lee hand priming tool or throwing powder charges by hand with my old Lyman 55 and RCS powder measures . My practiced hand throws a more accurate powder charge than any case activated powder measure. Ony failures I've have ever had with my hand loads were maybe 1 or 2 primer failures and 1 occasion i seated 45 ACP bullets out too long for reliable feeding in a 1911. That is not bad considering I have been reloading ammo for 55 years and thousands and thousands of rounds of many different kinds of cartridges. I've never killed a deer or hog with a factory cartridge. I took to reloading ammo at age 11 like Forest Gump took to playing ping pong.
This is not in any way shape or form a Dillon killer. Turret is 1 stage at a time a progressive is multiple at 1 time. I own both the Dillon 750 xl and the lyman all American 8. They both serve diff purposes and both have their place but the turret does not beat the Dillon at all
I think you miss understood my point. I also have both. I have ran a Dillon 650xl for over 20 years. My point is for the average shooter the turret press is capable of loading more than enough ammo at a fraction of the price. High volume shooters can benefit from the volume of the progressive press. Many people look to get into reloading because they can’t afford to buy ammo. That person is also less likely to be able to afford a progressive press. This is why I recommend the turret to most shooters. I do not disparage the dillon at all. I love mine.
@@OhioGunRunner some turret head issues. Problem with the threaded die positions not lining up with the ram when the detent ball was I the appropriate position. I have some Lyman products, but I just don't think their turret presses are real precision.
Most folks don’t need a Dillon. I only use my dillon for 9mm. Everything else I use the Lyman. I agree about the priming system. Lyman says they should have an improved system available in the future. No time line.
I agree with your comment at the end of the video about originally recommending a single stage press to a beginners. In this day and age, the price between a good single stage press and a turrent press is not that great. I now recommend a turrent press as a starting press, and it will probability be all the press most reloaders will ever need.
Just bought this press in addition to my thirty-plus year old RCBS Rock Chucker II single stage press. That will work well for my loading semiauto pistol cartridges. Just need to configure a way to install my Uniflow powder measure on one of the stations so it activates with a pull of the press lever.
You're spot-on here my friend. I seldom ever load more than a hundred rounds at a time anyway, so I really don't need a space age looking setup, that rivals anything in the transporter room of the starship Enterprise...and costs as much as a NASA designed onboard toilet. 😕
You will love it. You should buy one of Lee powder measures. Around $50 and very consistent with pistol powders. Case activated is great.
@@OhioGunRunner
Just ordered the Lee Auto Drum Powder Measure, and the universal Lee Powder Die set. Some of my dies are RCBS and Hornady. They don't come with a powder through style expander die for pistol cartridges. I assume I'll have to expand with those in a separate step using their die, then drop the charge through one of the universal dies installed in the measure, at another station. No biggie...Hell, I got 8! 😄
Two questions. What is the black strapping attached around the turret head of your press? What is it for and how do I get one? Also, did you disable the manual powder drop enabling the safety that prevents double charges (I don't see you manipulating anything prior to activating the powder station) or has Lee discontinued the feature? Thanks!
@@bustabass9025
www.thereloadersnetwork.com/product/turret-head-handle-lyman-all-american-8/
@@bustabass9025 sent you the link for the 3D printed handle. It allows you put a handle at any location. My powder measure has been set up for a while now. I do not remember having to disable the safety just never used the chain. Don’t hold me to that check the manual. It was easy to set up and is incredibly repeatable.
@@OhioGunRunner
Thanks man I appreciate your prompt responses! Some of these TH-cam jocks don't even bother. You are truly one of the good ones! 👍🏿
I started reloading on a dillon XL750 a year ago. I added a lyman ideal brass smith single stage press for pulling bullets depriming and removing primer pocket crimps and 8 caliber conversion kits. The caliber conversion change over is not so bad. My wife constantly interrupts me while I'm reloading so the dillon XL750 is the best thing for me
I'm am seriously interested in adding another press and I'm leaning toward the lyman all American 8 turret press
I used a Dillon 550 for years and I had no issues changing calibers. It takes about 10-15 minutes max. Plus I could load 400+ per hour, or slow it down to 50/hr doing quality rifle ammo.
I started on the with the 550 and find it to be an amazing press for beginners or experience reloaders because you have control.
Thanks for showing us your setup. I owned a Dillon years ago when I lived in Oz. They are amazing, that said, the cost is also high. I may have to do what you have as a stop gap as I don't have the budget for a Dillon or the space.
That’s pretty slick. I’m just getting started and got the Lyman Turret and Lyman powered measure but I think I’m going to return the powder measure and go with the Lee. My only concern is using this setup with extruded powder.
It isn't a Dillon killer. However it does not cost as much as a Dillon. If one has the money the Dillon is much better set up. Having said that you have a very efficient less costly loading system. I compliment you on that. I bought my Dillon years ago and I am glad I did I don't think I could afford it with todays prices and retired. The Lyman Turret you are using is considered the best press for the money today. I am considering one myself to set up for bullet pulling, de-priming and other things I need to do occasionally even some resizing that isn't set up on my Dillon tool heads. Nice video.
Thanks. FYI I have a Dillon 650.
Great video, thank you for sharing.
@@Outdoorswithlogdog thank you
I reload like this on my Lyman Spar-T using a Lee Auto Drum. I use a bullet feed die as well and prime off press. I have a bullet kicker system I "engineered" as well. That means I touch brass once to feed the beast and move along. I can crank out 5 rnds/min easy when I am focused. I agree that semi-progressive is not a "Dillon killer" but it is quick and prone to less headaches for sure.
Add the mini bullet feeder and you'll be even more productive.
Great video Brother 👊...thanks for sharing 😉👍🇺🇸 subbed
You got a good system there sir! I suppose that if I want speed, I'll still use my progressive. I do like my Lyman Single stage BrassSmith. But, everyone has different needs... so, like anything else, tweek to your satisfaction.
The right tool for the job. I use my progressive for 9 40 38 45 223. Bulk range ammo and typically load 500 plus rounds at a time. I use my turret for my magnum handgun where I load 1-200ds in a session. I use my single stage for my rifle hunting/precision rifle stuff where I’m weighing every powder charge. I think a turret is the best all around press for doing everything.
I got the lee 4 hole turret for my first press and it does the job but i really want the lyman all american 8 it is more Precise and sturdy
Turret presses are great!
Best sign off ever.
I notice that you do not have the press mounted priming system attached to the press. Neither do I. What do you use to prime with? I have a RCBS uniflow with a case activated powder charger. The same thing but different. I use a RCBS automatic bench mounted priming tool. I size and deprime. Prime up a 100 cases, then flare, powder fill, seat and then crimp. The thoughts you expressed about the turret press in this video mirror mine as well. I am glad I purchased the Lyman 8 station turret press. How do you like your press?
I love the press. The priming system not so much. When it works it’s good but keeps coming apart on me. I use the Lee auto bench prime.
Don't you get different powder weights because of the turret's shaking? I have a TMag2 and I'm thinkg on installing the Lee Auto Drum on the Lee Expander die. But have seen some videos with concerns about powder measures mounted on turret presses.
My traditional powder measure mounted on the turret was effected by the turret motion but the Lee auto drum was not. I was using Alliant BE86 and could not make it mess up.
I have the Lyman turret press with a lee auto drum and have had no problem with the powder drop weights. Works great so far no complaints, just make sure you mount the press on a solid surface and your good to go!
I've been using this method on an old Spar-T press (diy fab mount levels the turret) and it's been amazingly accurate in the drops.
Are you priming on or off the press?
Off the press. I do not like the on press system.
I always liked the turret presses more than progressives. Fairly fast, simple, and no progressives headaches. I prefer Lee classic turret press with auto index
The Lee classic turret is an outstanding good press. I love mine but for quantity 9mm I use a Lee auto breech lock pro progressive press(will upgrade to the six pack pro)
I have to say once I got my progressive I don’t load that much on my turret anymore.
Also the Lee turret is not in the same class as other turret presses because of the auto indexing. It’s not better, but for different applications than conventional turret presses
Next for me will still be a 3rd single stage press. I have lots of space so I keep all my presses mounted for their specific use so for me I rather buy another single stage than a conventional turret, if I had less space I’d get a good turret like the Lyman
@@RealMrSmit it can’t compete with a progressive if you sit down for one hour and crank out ammo. I shoot a load of 9mm and soon 45acp. Instead of doing it all at once, I leave my press set up and I’ll go down to my garage and make a quick 5 rounds. Doing this throughout the day a few days a week adds up fast and feels like I’m not doing any tedious reloading. I was gonna get the six pack pro. It looks reliable and seems to function great and fast. But I learned my lesson with progressives. The turret’s simplicity is something I love. Machine that does everything. Just need to find some more primers.
Not a Dillon killer by any means. Dillon 550 is far surperior for rifle cartridges . Lyman has too much flex for consistent full length case resizing of rifle cartridges. Lyman can compete with a Dillon 550 for loading pistol cartridges. Add the Lee bullet feeder for even more efficiency of movement. I love Lee. I've learned to use Lee progressive and turret press to speed up my batch style reloading. I do not prime and powder charge on a press . Im too anal for that. SAFTY , RELIABILITY, AND ACCURACY are my main objective in that order. Speed is my 4th objective. I get the same accracy from my turret and progressive press hand loads as I did in the days I was a benchrest rifle competitor useing Wilson hand dies. I can't get away from hand priming by feel with my old cheap Lee hand priming tool or throwing powder charges by hand with my old Lyman 55 and RCS powder measures . My practiced hand throws a more accurate powder charge than any case activated powder measure. Ony failures I've have ever had with my hand loads were maybe 1 or 2 primer failures and 1 occasion i seated 45 ACP bullets out too long for reliable feeding in a 1911. That is not bad considering I have been reloading ammo for 55 years and thousands and thousands of rounds of many different kinds of cartridges. I've never killed a deer or hog with a factory cartridge. I took to reloading ammo at age 11 like Forest Gump took to playing ping pong.
I prefer the Lee Classic Turret with the Auto Drum for making rifle rounds.
This is not in any way shape or form a Dillon killer. Turret is 1 stage at a time a progressive is multiple at 1 time. I own both the Dillon 750 xl and the lyman all American 8. They both serve diff purposes and both have their place but the turret does not beat the Dillon at all
I think you miss understood my point. I also have both. I have ran a Dillon 650xl for over 20 years. My point is for the average shooter the turret press is capable of loading more than enough ammo at a fraction of the price. High volume shooters can benefit from the volume of the progressive press. Many people look to get into reloading because they can’t afford to buy ammo. That person is also less likely to be able to afford a progressive press. This is why I recommend the turret to most shooters. I do not disparage the dillon at all. I love mine.
The quality of those lyman presses is really hit and miss from what I have seen.
What are some of the issues you have seen wrong with them?
@@OhioGunRunner some turret head issues. Problem with the threaded die positions not lining up with the ram when the detent ball was I the appropriate position. I have some Lyman products, but I just don't think their turret presses are real precision.
Dillon is a different beast but it is great for smaller amounts of ammo. The priming system is worthless
Most folks don’t need a Dillon. I only use my dillon for 9mm. Everything else I use the Lyman. I agree about the priming system. Lyman says they should have an improved system available in the future. No time line.
That’s cool, until you miss a station and forget to put powder in it.😐. I’ll stick with my Dillon.
If you have a Dillon run it. I run a 650 also. I still visually check every case on my Dillon for missed charges.