do you have a link to the knobster in stock somewhere? i dont see the link in the description. In U.S. preferably due to shipping cost and also the USB version that is plug-n-play. thanks kindly
i guess xforce PC has them too but their website is 404 errors on any link so they must be out of business. Just trying to find one somewhere in US. I'll try eBay.
i just saw this for first time...the potential, i think, is awesome...maybe a paradigm shift in the way we fly sims in the future...the combination of touchscreen and real knobs, switches, levers, etc., might allow realistic simulation of any aircraft...bravo!
Russ, just got my second touch screen. I am anxiously awaiting the release of the Knobster. I see that they pushed back the release date another month. Bummer. I am a CFI working on my CFII and I use my Simulator to reinforce my skills. I have been simming for 20 years now and I feel that with Air manager, and touch screens and soon the Knobster I will never leave my basement. Thanks for all you do. And I agree... more on how it’s done and less on the show. Love you brother.
John Panik you could build a Knobster with Arduino if you can’t wait. It isn’t hard and is slightly more setup that the current plug and play version but it might be a good stopgap measure until you can get the new model. I was under the impression they were getting a shipment any day but perhaps that have been sold out.
Hi Russ hope im not out of line, but have to ask if you could point me to the DIY ooption for the Knobster , im no stranger to Arduino's and have many Concentric encoders so would be great try and make one of these . Cheers am buying air manager and so this option would be a good upgrade
This is awesome. I own a 2004 Diamond DA40 G1000 and want to replicate it as best I can on a sim. What a great solution. Not a stick, but a yoke is fine for my purposes. I would love to pick your brain and get this set up. Happy to pay you consulting time.
Thanks Russ! I'm building a similar setup with the Knobster and Prechen, however, I'm mounting the touchscreen a few inches further back so I'm bending the panel the opposite direction. I'm also using the VESA mounts on the display rather than brackets. I'll start with a single display and when the throttle quadrant comes out, I may do a second touchscreen.
Russ, as always, THANKS, Based on your wonderful advice, for the Sim I’m building for my two grandsons,, I purchased two 15.6” monitors, two mounts for them from Stay a level and two under table mounts so the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke & Bravo Throttles can mounted low and the monitors much lower,. The computer is the new M1 Mac, Mini, with the Mini sitting on a AGPTEK USB-C Docking Station & Stand for Mac Mini with SATA SSD/HDD Slot,, running Air Manager and just received the ELEGOO UNO Project Super Starter Kit with Tutorial and UNO R3 Compatible with Arduino IDE (and will hopefully use your ‘scripts’ to integrate the panels into the Mac. If, OK, I will keep you apprised as the build commences and continues. The Honeycomb ‘A’ & ‘B’ doesn’t arrive until late Dec, the M1 does t arrive until 12/24 and the Hub , not until mid Feb, so I will have time to integrate all correct,y hopefully . Again, thank you.
Mr. Barlow, how did you bend the aluminum to get angle for the monitor. The brake only bend to 90 degrees, so how did you get the angle bend you show on your bracket. Also what did you polish the aluminum with. Thanks
Russ... I would especially appreciate the info on the brackets. When you published the video using the smaller screen, I asked myself why not do the same thing with the 15.6" touch screen. You are way ahead of my game and since I don't see a need to reinvent the wheel...I would appreciate any help you are willing provide. I too, am also willing to pay you consulting time.
Tom Barefoot since the smaller screen was a tablet and I already had the snap in cover available it was just easier for me to cut off the front flap and pop rivet the case to the metal back. Brackets could be designed to hold a tablet or iPad just as easily. Of course if the monitor has vesa mount holes it told be affixed that way too, but mine did not.
Could you use two of these monitors side-by-side to make it more or less like a full-size 172 cockpit and to be able to work both monitors with the one knobster
Hi Russ. I really appreciate your series of videos on the Knobster and homebuilt cockpits. My Knobster arrived today, but I'm undecided how I'm going to use it. I'm torn between copying your '$360 Touchscreen Cockpit' and your earlier 'Twin Touch Monitor SIM'. Having used both do you think the added cost and complexity of the dual monitor setup adds proportionately to the experience and level of immersion?
Well the dual setup is definitely more realistic and capable BUTi f you intend to use a three monitor visual set up it does require a second computer and, if you want to display windows form XP11, the second computer needs to run XP11 too so the windows can be dragged to the panel monitors. My suggestion might be to do the easier option first but go ahead and purchase the second monitor so you will have a matched set later. It seems these little monitors are made by lots of vendors but may vary slightly so it would be difficult to match the monitor later. You wouldn't have too much invested in time or money doing the single monitor first and upgrade to the twin monitor later. In a year who knows...perhaps Vulcan and graphics cards might make it possible to drive all five monitors with a single computer. If you only want a single big screen scenery monitor and the two panel monitors the dual setup can be done with a single computer so it is also an option. You could add the three screen visual and a second computer later. Those are the two options I would consider based on how many scenery monitors you want.
Hi Russ, thank you so much for your tutorials they are really helpful. I need a suggestion from you to build a cockpit to train especially for multi engine ifr flights based on g1000 cockpit, and of course I want to choose a cost effective solution. I can see in this video a setup that looks quite perfect, can you suggest something else for my purpose or is it the best way? Thank you in advance!
Hello Russ, I have been watching your videos and have now purchased a touch screen and the knobster and AirManager. I have the beta version running for FS2020. I would really like to buy the panel you show at 7:46 in this video but cannot find it. Is it your personal creation? Anyway you could share it? I will purchase any items needed for the panel like the G1000. I just have not figured out the creation of panels yet. Any help would be great
Hi Russ, would 15.6 inch be big enough .I'm undecided if i should make a 180 curved screen or use 3x games monitors screens , , either way i will be using Air manager with prob the 15.6 monitor for the instruments or glass screen, what do you recommend
Nice Russ. Thanks! Pretty much what I am brainstorming. Trial and error (and unnecessary $ spent) I'm moving towards a virtual setup for the flexibility.
Russ, new to sim. Enjoying your channel. I’m running X-Plane 11 on a MacMini M1 with a Honeycomb yoke and throttle quadrant. I have a separate macMini and want to run air manager on its monitor. The two computers are connected over Ethernet. Is this possible?
Awesome! Do you set this 2nd touch monitor and knobster through X-Plane software. Guess I need to read more on how to set this up. Thank you for sharing.
I fly msfs2020 and I have bought a 15.6” touch monitor. I would love to make the kind of set up that you show in your video but I don’t know where to start! Can you point me in the right direction please?
Thanks again for another great video. Starting on my flight sim here, using a WiMaxIt 15.6 monitor with air manager and knobster. Panel are logitech and a Real Sim Gear GNS 530. Only problem for me will the brackets for the monitor to hold on to aluminum panel. Will also be running FS 2020. Also what was the degree of bend you did for the aluminum panel for monitor. Since running logitech panels will I need an Arduino?
Thanks for posting an alternative to Russ' Prechen. I never found that monitor, but just ordered the Wimaxit. It looks perfect. And thanks to Russ Barlow for posting great content and alternatives to paying top $$$ for renting an AATD.
Russ, I am a CFII in Raleigh NC and want to help some friends with their training using this setup. I have followed your lead from the start. I have the Prechen 15.6” touchscreen and run air manager as you have instructed. My question is, how do you ( or can you ) make the Garman 530 and 430 automatically stay loaded in the air manager windows behind the bezel ? Every time I turn on the computer , unless I leave it in sleep mode, I have to resize the GPS pop out and drag it don and into the bezels. I too am waiting patiently on the knobster and think your invention is pure genius. Thanks for moving this idea forward !
Thankfully if you shut down an aircraft in XP11 (or quit X-Plane) with the G530 or G430 or G1000s opened and windows positioned, they will open to the same position the next time you open an airplane that has those units installed. If you close them you have to re-open and re-position them. Also if you located them at another location for another panel, they would open where they last were when they were last used. So if you use the same aircraft all the time OR create panels where they are located in the same place they will be where you want them. That is what I did on the G1000 PFD and MFD on the Cessna 172 and the VisionJet. The G1000's are at the same place for both airplanes so you can jump back and forth and the windows are correct. If you open an aircraft that doesn't have the window it has no effect. Thus you can change between the Cessna with G1000 panel and the Cessna 172SP with 530/430 without affecting the positions on the other. Just don't close the popped out windows. I can also tell you how to record the window positions in the XP settings file so you can reset them exactly without any dragging if they get screwed up. Hope this helps.
Russ, I have purchased the Stay Level Avionix panel and the 15.6" monitor and the Knobster I am planning to run X-Plane 11 on a new MacBook Air with the M2 chip, it should be here next month, and Air manager from my iPad Pro. Is there a hub that will work with the iPad Pro to allow it to connect to the new monitor and to the Knobster?
I have available a 23 inch touch screen. I am running X Plane 11. I also have two regular monitors available for main monitors until 48 inch one come down in price. So can I assume that with a Knobster either purchased or DIY, I could have a decent setup for the 737? I also have an older iPad available.
It requires the instrument panel to be in Air Manager to work with Knobster so that may need to be made. There is an overhead panel now with others to come.
Russ....a couple questions. Where are you located? USA?, cause if you are in the Netherlands, it would make my next question irrelevant due to the cost of shipping. Next question. would you be able to print and sell the touchscreen brackets you showed on this video? What if I gave you slight dimension changes based on your bracket design? I couldn't fit a 15.6" touchscreen onto my existing cockpit panel , so I just bought a similar Full HD, thin touchscreen from Amazon but it is a 12.3" display that is 0.29" thick. It arrives tomorrow, Sun Mar 15th, 2020. Once I measure everything and understand the dimensions of your brackets (is there a place that shows all your bracket dimensions? I can't read a .stl file format. Would you be willing, for a price, to make dimension mods, print and ship me one set of brackets to Vero Beach, Florida?
Hi Russ, does the knobster work without air manager? I ordered 3 55" TVs and would like to use a 24" touchscreen in front of the TV but behind the yoke to just replicate what is behind the yoke (that is, in effect just add touch capability to that area of the TV) so I can touch switches and it would be awesome to also be able to use the knobs. If not it would be a great plugin!
I think I have found my flight sim mentor! I really like the touch screen coupled with your Knobster. Great solution. I will be creating a purchase list of all these items as soon as I can stop watching your videos! By the way, it seems the addition of the touch screen undermines the use of VR. Yet, you mentioned you were awaiting the delivery of an HP VR headset. Would you mind helping me understand the role VR plays in your sim activities?
Hey Russ Great work how do you see the air traffic management system on your setup ? I want to implement it for an autonomous drone with a cockpit inside to see the air traffic and then use that data to re-route the path using a 4g LTE connectvity.My flying range is about 500 mtrs initially.Looking forward to hear from you.Could I know which software did you use to implement this sim?
Hi Russ. You have screwed the aluminium plate to the Yoke using the screws provided. As far as I can tell there aren't any screws in the box (none are listed in the contents) and I have no idea what size screws are required. Any ideas? Thanks! (I got the Yoke and the Knobster for Christmas so am looking forward to experimenting!)
Russ, I can see where height taller than the 15.6 inch monitor is problematic, but is there a wide touchscreen monitor of the same height, and about 29 inches wide available anywhere yet? That would give us a full width panel using a single panel. I have seen the widescreen monitors, but not in touchscreen.
C Barr I wish by know of no widescreen Touchscreen like you mention. Of course two 23” monitors give the necessary real estate but you have the center bezel and need another graphics port. I have seen guys put a mask over the 23 inch screen and install encoders for the knobs at various instruments. Looks quite cool but it is a little more work and you’re locked into a single aircraft type or at least panel layout.
Thanks for sharing. I just wish the price of the Knobster was less because at $100 I think is too much. You definitely deserve the $5 or more per piece. It is a great idea and no doubt a very real approach when it comes to use a sim touch cockpit, compare to a real plane. But at that price point and if you just compare how much Xplane and Air Manager cost and what they do, in my opinion the Knobster could be way less,
Jose Guzman I hear you but hardware is unlike software. With software you have fixed development costs and especially with downloaded software once you payback those costs each unit is almost all profit. Hardware has development costs plus production costs. Even after recouping the development costs there is a cost for production, inventorying, and fulfillment. Of course if they could order 100,000 units the cost could probably be less than $50. But that would be a $2-3 million order. So Sim Innovations orders 200-500 units and the price reflects their ist’s plus a meager profit. You can build a Knobster yourself using an Arduino Nano and a dual encoder and some wires and solder. The Sim Innovations Wiki has Information and I could help further. Finically I would ask you to compare the cost a Knobster and a touchscreen to a comparable hardware set up.... it is a bargain. All sim hardware is expensive due to the relatively small potential market size.
@@rbarlow Thanks for your honest response. I did not know how small the Sim community was. I understand the cost explanations. I'll take a look at your suggestions about build my own. Don't get me wrong, I think the Knobster is a great product/idea and definitely one way or the other in my future plans. Again, thanks for your honest and very informative explanations and ideas. Really enjoy your content. Wish you the best from Orlando, Florida. Saludos !!!
Aviation Sim&Travel still have it but to show this design borrowed one monitor(they are on rolling stands) from that set up and placed it in front of my VR cockpit setup. The alpha yoke is in that VR cockpit. I will return the third monitor to its home after I play with this new creation a few days.
Hi Russ, A question. I have gradually grown to appreciate the power of Air Manager to increase the immersion with Xplane 11, especially now that I’m using the Knobster. I recently installed an external autopilot unit that really rounds out my setup... but I still have ONE thing I’m missing. All my panels include the B1900 Altitude Alerter instrument which I control with the Knobster, but this instrument does not have a button to “ARM” the altitude, which means I still have to go to the Xplane window to do that. Are you aware of an Air Manager instrument that does this, or would you be interested in adding this feature to this instrument for a fee? I am a long-time lapsed pilot and I’m not inclined at this stage to learn the script language to do it myself. Thx for your informative videos. Joey
Back in the air again! If the functionality is in the simulator it could be added easily. Confirm for me this is the Beech 1900 Altitude Alerter and what aircraft you use it with. If I can do it in a couple hours or less no charge. I will try to look at it tomorrow after you reply.
Hi Russ, Thank you for the quick response. I use the altitude pre-select on the following aircraft, all of which support that function: Default King Air c90 Carenado Baron B58 Carenado Pilatus PC12 Carenado King Air c90 Carenado Cessna 206 (non G1000) Carenado Mooney M20R Ovation ... and maybe a couple of others that also support the function. The problem, as I’m sure you know, is that simply pre-selecting the altitude doesn’t help unless I can “Arm” it... otherwise climbing in VS or FLC mode will just keep the airplane climbing past the set altitude. I’m using the B1900 altitude pre-select instrument but I could just as easily use the generic one which appears to be essentially the same. Thx again. Joey
Thanks for all the videos! I'm still trying to decide if I want to use Air Manager. Is there a way to get the G1000's for other aircraft besides the Vision jet? I'd like them for the default C172 for sure, and to be able to use them in the Hot Start TBM900 and others would be great as well. I really don't want to spend $2,000 on RealSimGear hardware. But that seems to be the easiest way to just drag and drop the XP11 G1000 PFD and MFD onto a monitor with hardware bezels. EDIT: I just stumbled onto your G1000 generic overlay. Is this all I would need to create the PFD and MFD using Air Manager and the Knobster? Thanks in advance.
Any aircraft in X-Plane using the G1000 or G530/430 can pop out the displays to use. Many add on aircraft also have pop out displays. Not sure about the TBM specifically but if it uses the internal XP G1000 or has its own method to pop out the display it will work.
@@rbarlow Thanks for the quick reply! I'm going to watch some more videos and do a little more research, but it sounds like Air Manager might be the way to go. One more question if I may. If I had two of those 15" monitors, one for the PFD and one for the MFD, would one Knobster control both?
Hi Russ, maybe I missed it somewhere in your other videos or this one, but are your external scenery view displays PC monitors or are the HDTVs? In your one video that explains multidisplay geometry and setup, you mention that your displays are 49” (43” wide) so I would assume they must be TVs rather than monitors. If so, aren’t there issues with input lag, latency etc, that used to make TVs as monitors not such a good option? Or is that a thing of the past with the newer TVs? Would you mind telling us exactly what you are using for your scenery displays? Thanks !
CheckSixIvan yes they are 4K TVs but the video signal is only 1080p (1920 x 1080). They are Vizio TV but a few years old now so similar or better TVs are not very expensive now. Just be sure to get good wide viewing angle and beware of TVs with excessive input lag. A good source of info on TVs and how they work for gaming is at www.rtings.com/tv
Russ Barlow Thanks for the info. Had a multi screen setup awhile back but monitors were smaller. This option to use much larger TVs has resparked my simming interest! And once the bug bites.......
If there is software that allows you to use the iPad as an external monitor for your computer and if the PFD can be popped out you can just drag it to the iPad screen. You didn’t say if the computer is windows or Mac and what sim X-Plane, P3D or MSFS
@@rbarlow Thanks for quick answer. I am using Apple Mac and X-plane11.51. X-Plane has some ports for external connection but I don’t know how to use them. For my Apple iPad I am seeking a suitable application for transferring PFD on touch screen.
Chris Cap I think it is offered as an alternate panel choice for the Cessna 172SP pay panel. Go to the panels tab and click new panel. Find the Cessna 172SP panel and when you select it and click next it will show all the optional 172 panels of which the G1000 panel should be one
Can you share the amazon link in the video description for everyone to follow. I have a DOF Reality P3 motion simulator. Do you think this setup would break the top of the yoke due to the movements?
Hi Russ. Really appreciate your videos. I just got my new Alienware Aurora 12 with the Nvidia 3070 Graphics card. I bought the Wimaxit 1560CTV2 touchscreen monitor (No Prechen to be found). But, it does not want to play nicely. Can you tell me what connection you used? I have the video card going to a 43" HDTV using the HDMI cable. That only leaves display ports on the card and other ports on the computer that don't support video. Any suggestions? I'd really appreciate it. Have you upgraded your computer and touch screen lately? Am I doing something wrong?
You can buy a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter something like this DisplayPort to HDMI, Benfei Gold-Plated DP Display Port to HDMI Adapter (Male to Female) Compatible for Lenovo Dell HP and Other Brand www.amazon.com/dp/B017Q8ZVWK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_R72ZYM1ZE02RQTM3BG55 You will need power and usb also to get the touch screen to work. May need to calibrate the touch if the touch monitor is not the main monitor or if you have multiple touch monitors. Go to settings and search “calibrate” and look for “calibrate touch and pen …” and follow the onscreen directions
@@rbarlow Thank you sir. I placed the order. It will be here tomorrow. Once I get it working, I will order the mount from staylevel, as you mentioned in other videos, and air manager along with knobster. I have the logitech multi panel and the radio panel. so, I will most likely be putting the necessary flight systems on the touchscreen. Thank you so much for your help. Google kept me running around in circles. Since I have 2 more display ports, I'll probably get two more HDTVs and make it a 185 degree FOV. I will follow your other video to do the math and make sure the edges line up properly. YOU are big help to many people. Keep up the good work.
@@rbarlow Got it. Hooked it up and downloaded air manager. Everything is working like you said. I did need to "calibrate" the touch screen. But, it didn't need calibration, only to identify which screen was the touch screen. Thank you again for all your help. Waiting on the mount coming from stay level.
@@billharmon2051 yes if the touch digitizer is made with the monitor windows only needs to know how to associate touch inputs with a specific screen. Glad it is working for you.
Personally as a pilot I’m not used to using a stylus so I like doing it with fingers so I don’t have to pick up something and put it back down. It would definitely give more precision.
Great! I have several computers and two sims. I have a i7-9700k RTX2080ti for my XP11 VR sim but I have been testing FS2020 on too. My second has 3 monitors for scenery visuals on one computer and a panel with two more monitors on a second networked computer. Both are older i7 cpus and one GTX1070ti(scenery) and one GTX1070 for panels and Knobster. Air Manager can fun on quite a low powered computer. If you want to show pop up displays from the sim you need to run Air Manager on the same computer. Basically if your single computer runs the sim well it can handle the added monitor with Air Manager and lose less than 3-5 FPS. Check out these videos on my channel for more info DIY Twin Touch Monitor Sim th-cam.com/video/ZOdI__BMat4/w-d-xo.html Five Monitor Sim and Only a Single Computer- XP11 Vulkan Stress Test th-cam.com/video/ZOdI__BMat4/w-d-xo.html
Great innovation ! As always, thanks for sharing. With the set up in the video, is it easy to use the hat switch to look around in the main display (e.g. for flying the circuit) or, when touched, does the touchscreen become the active display meaning that main display would need to be re-selected before the hat switch can be used ?
In my setup you can use the touch screen and main display with the hat switch at the same time with no issues. You have to tell Windows which is the touchscreen monitor before using Xplane. Once monitors are connected just search calibrate touch screen and follow the instructions.
Hi Russ, I am attempting to follow your deign, however, I am having a problem with the Prechen 15.6” touch screen monitor working with Air Manager. It took some searching to find the proper power adapter but the touch screen function still will not work. Very surprisingly and strangely, the instructions no where identify the manufacture or offer any customer service contact information. No one to contact for help. Do you by chance have any tips or insights as to how to get this monitor to work with Air Manager and X-Plane 11.41? Thanks. I am always on the look out for your next informative video.
Robert, i had the same experience with my first Prechen monitor. You must use both USB cords. As far as I could tell the small one Is for the touch function. I figured this out because when I connected it I would get a square appearing on my main monitor. You then must go into your control panel and calibrate the touch monitor. Basically letting the computer know that it is a touch screen. Michael Brown has a you tube video with the step by step procedure. One other thing, go thru your program manager files and make sure that all the USB ports power management is set to always on. Sometimes the computer will limit the power consumption by turning off random USB ports. This can also be found on you tube. Good luck.
Similar experience. Hi got no paperwork at all with my monitor. The info from the site I purchased it from was also confusing. However I do have a working setup. Assuming I have the same monitor as you, my configuration is HDMI and USB cables plugged in. I *think* the USB cable supplies the power for the touch screen (it won't turn on if the USB is not connected). However, I then had to configure my display as a touch screen in Windows, otherwise when I touch the screen it thinks I'm interacting with my main monitor. I think I used the touch screen calibration feature of Windows 10 for this (I'm not at my computer right now so I'm trying to remember). I just searched for instructions on how to setup a touch screen and found something that said to go to a touch screen calibration tool in Control Panel. I'm pretty sure I just had to specify which monitor was a touch screen and then it all worked. The impression from the site (which I only noticed after I bought it) was that a separate power cable would be required for the touch screen to work. For me, this turned out not to be the case, which is good because none was supplied with the monitor. Let me know how you get on :)
Wayne Sibley My screen seems to be like yours: a USB power adapter with an HDMI cable. Since the instructions said the touch screen function also needed a 12v power adapter I tried a number and think I finally got the right one. I had no idea you needed to turn on the touch screen function in Windows 10 so I will try everything you and John suggested and let you know the results. Thanks again.
John and Wayne, no luck. While Windows has detected and will display to the Prechen the Human Device Interface does not detect the Prechen so I cannot enable touch screen. I Googled for help and tried everything suggested with no better results. I am going to send the Prechen back to Amazon and either try a replacement or purchase a different brand; one which has its manufacturer identified and provides customer support. Thanks again for your help.
Great solution for the budget minded for utilizing the Prechen monitor. I can see why you did this with the Honeycomb as it's reasonably priced and provides a way to secure metal panel to the yoke. Do you think there's a reasonable solution if it was a Yoko yoke?
@@rbarlow I went ahead and ordered the bezels for the Prechen monitor. Unfortunately that monitor died on me 2 days ago but I will be getting another or at least one with the same bezel thickness. I would prefer one with connections in the rear rather than the side. I'm stuck on how to make the metal panel. I don't have the necessary tools. Any way you would be able to make one? I'm willing to pay for the materials and your labor costs.
In my setup I use a gas monitor arm I got from Amazon. I can place the monitor pretty much anywhere I want. All I have is a cheap yoke and I am able to place the monitor on top at any distance. The arm is very easy to mount on my table, Mine suports monitor up to 27" and about 15lbs. I have a 22" touch screen that weights about 8 lbs. I paid $27 for the arm.
I got a B58 instrument panel from 1mm aluminum sheet, now It rying to figure out what will be the batter way to go laminating or painting. Can you, please, explain the process of painting along with the link to the Paints. I know that require prime and special paint. but maybe I'm wrong Tnx
Y Ben-Ad I shouldn’t be giving advice about painting because it’s definitely not something I know much about, but I used spray enamel paint that I bought at a auto supply store in the clearcoat to put over that. It was primer and paint in a single product so I used a scotchbrite pad to to clean and roughen the surface slightly and then put on a couple coats. Then a couple clear coat applications. I smoothed any imperfections with the pad between coats. If you are serious you might het an auto body shop to shoot it....couldn’t cost very much and they know what they are doing viz. me.
@@rbarlow .... Yeah, Auto Body shop, is, probably, the way to go, but then I'll need to figure out how to label the panel, so maybe laminating the entire pedestal, is the more practical approach. Tnx Russ
Great video Russ, I am new to flight sims, just got the honeycomb alpha, could you do a tutorial on setting up the honeycomb for A320 aircraft. also would you be able to send me the build details of your rig set up and touch screen cockpit panel with instructions on how to connect everything,
John I understand you are just getting started in Sims but that is a pretty broad array of info you are requesting. Setting up the Honeycomb or any Yoke with X-Plane is about the same. You just have to decide which buttons you want to assign to what. You do this on the settings joystick tab. It is not hard and there are many tutorials on TH-cam. As for the A320 how you assign the switches available is not cut an dried. What do you mean "build details of your rig"? computer, hardware, what? I have covered the Touchscreen in more than one video. Not sure exactly what connections you mean? Be patient. It will take a little online research and study to figure things out. There are many resources on TH-cam, X-Plane.org forums, and Laminar Research website. Happy to answer and more specific questions you may have. Good Luck. This really is a fun hobby.
Have you ever tried incorporating the GTN 650 into Air Manager? Does this exist? My Skyhawk at the club has one and wanted to replicate the experience better.
Julius Goth I have not but have incorporated the GTN750 from RealityXP. They have a GTN 650 too so it shouldn’t be hard. See my video th-cam.com/video/T5n46zkgLNo/w-d-xo.html Let me know if you need help.
Thank you Russ. I like realistic size instrumentation. Do you find the 15.6” monitor provides this for steam gauges as well as the dual G1000 setup? Would a larger monitor work better or just be overkill?
gerdelt 15.6” is definitely much smaller than real live. I think you might get a full size six pack on the monitor. The resolution is quite sharp so the smaller size doesn’t limit functionality. The monitor can also display a single G1000 PFD OR MFD at about full scale. I don’t think you could mount a larger monitor on the Alpha Yoke...it would need it’s own structure for support. A 32” monitor would probably be needed to approximate full size for the panels in this video.
Alain Keller I have an NVIDIA GTX 1070ti to run the three screens as the external visual copy of XP11. I run the cockpit screens using a 1070 running the master copy of XP11 and Air Manager. If you only need one cockpit monitor or do not need to show popped out XP windows in your Panels you could probably run a 4 monitor setup on a single computer or a 5 monitor setup without a second copy of XP.
I really didn’t draw it up. I just laid out the monitor on the Aluminum sheet and wagged it. I think a sheet is easier that gluing parts together but who knows. Flight velocity has a $49 plastic version and Stay Level Avionix has. $99 version of steel that is very sturdy,
hi again, i noticed your dimensions on your video and then compared them to what the Prechen Monitor shows under a question and answer, they show Please look below, didn't seem to match and it's the exact same monitor. could you double-check on your amazon order to see what the true dimensions were showing. I have the brackets on order but am wondering if it would work. I think someone has the numbers mixed up a bit. such as the person below that put those dimensions in the question and answer section of my Prechen monitor that has the same part # as yours. This monitor thickness is 9.5 mm width is 375mm height is 277 By Ling Liu on June 9, 2019
What do you mean "without an apple product?" There are no apple products used on this set up in the video. Just a single windows computer running Air Manager and X-Plane 11. It works with P3D and FSX too. If FS2020 supports simconnect as advertised in their development info it should be working with that too when it is released. Maybe you can explain your comment if I don't understand the question you ask. Thanks.
No kit but Stay Level Avionix sells bracket now and you can buy monitor to use. I suggest you watch my recent videos on this bracket. th-cam.com/video/Wsv3PFnn1Z8/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/ED8S4Bat1C8/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/WuqaE-L0Jh4/w-d-xo.html
Only one CPU since I want to take the GPS and G1000 poput windows from X-Plane and use then along with the Air Manager panel. To do this the monitors have to be all part of the same desktop...same computer
I see an 18" Harbor Freight Bending Brake listed on their website with the black Ball handles like you have, but it looks like yours was a bit wider, do you remember how many inches wide your Bending Brake is? thanks in advance. SUBSCRIBED, & Thumbs UP
Quite easy to build and there are some small monitors now that have mounting screw holes(VESA) on the back so you wouldn’t need the brackets you could just attach it from the rear. The metal frame is quite easy to build.
Russ, Sign me up! my son and I are building a sim so I can teach him how to fly. I would like to do what you have done, but have questions about how to hook this all together. How can I contact you with my questions?
Enjoyed! I got the Knobster and it adds the realism to the touchscreen. Thanks Russ!
do you have a link to the knobster in stock somewhere? i dont see the link in the description. In U.S. preferably due to shipping cost and also the USB version that is plug-n-play. thanks kindly
i guess xforce PC has them too but their website is 404 errors on any link so they must be out of business. Just trying to find one somewhere in US. I'll try eBay.
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@@dr.brianemery5830 thanks very much!
i just saw this for first time...the potential, i think, is awesome...maybe a paradigm shift in the way we fly sims in the future...the combination of touchscreen and real knobs, switches, levers, etc., might allow realistic simulation of any aircraft...bravo!
Russ, just got my second touch screen. I am anxiously awaiting the release of the Knobster. I see that they pushed back the release date another month. Bummer. I am a CFI working on my CFII and I use my Simulator to reinforce my skills. I have been simming for 20 years now and I feel that with Air manager, and touch screens and soon the Knobster I will never leave my basement. Thanks for all you do. And I agree... more on how it’s done and less on the show. Love you brother.
John Panik you could build a Knobster with Arduino if you can’t wait. It isn’t hard and is slightly more setup that the current plug and play version but it might be a good stopgap measure until you can get the new model. I was under the impression they were getting a shipment any day but perhaps that have been sold out.
Hi Russ hope im not out of line, but have to ask if you could point me to the DIY ooption for the Knobster , im no stranger to Arduino's and have many Concentric encoders so would be great try and make one of these . Cheers am buying air manager and so this option would be a good upgrade
Man I appreciate your videos! And the knobster idea is awesome!
This is awesome. I own a 2004 Diamond DA40 G1000 and want to replicate it as best I can on a sim. What a great solution. Not a stick, but a yoke is fine for my purposes. I would love to pick your brain and get this set up. Happy to pay you consulting time.
email me at barlow320 at the domain for gmail which is a com
@@rbarlow Thanks. I sent you an email.
Thanks Russ! I'm building a similar setup with the Knobster and Prechen, however, I'm mounting the touchscreen a few inches further back so I'm bending the panel the opposite direction. I'm also using the VESA mounts on the display rather than brackets. I'll start with a single display and when the throttle quadrant comes out, I may do a second touchscreen.
Ed DeBoer cool... be sure to share photos or videos when done
@@rbarlow What did you use to cut the aluminum?
Thanks for making this video. Got a panel based on your videos and will be trying to integrate it like you have done.
Hey Russ. Great informative video. I’m just starting my build. Will check back often for info. Ted
Good luck. Let me know how it goes.
Russ, as always, THANKS, Based on your wonderful advice, for the Sim I’m building for my two grandsons,, I purchased two 15.6” monitors, two mounts for them from Stay a level and two under table mounts so the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke & Bravo Throttles can mounted low and the monitors much lower,. The computer is the new M1 Mac, Mini, with the Mini sitting on a AGPTEK USB-C Docking Station & Stand for Mac Mini with SATA SSD/HDD Slot,, running Air Manager and just received the ELEGOO UNO Project Super Starter Kit with Tutorial and UNO R3 Compatible with Arduino IDE (and will hopefully use your ‘scripts’ to integrate the panels into the Mac. If, OK, I will keep you apprised as the build commences and continues. The Honeycomb ‘A’ & ‘B’ doesn’t arrive until late Dec, the M1 does t arrive until 12/24 and the Hub , not until mid Feb, so I will have time to integrate all correct,y hopefully .
Again, thank you.
Sounds fun. Happy to help if you get stuck.
Your knob is a great idea.
Mr. Barlow, how did you bend the aluminum to get angle for the monitor. The brake only bend to 90 degrees, so how did you get the angle bend you show on your bracket. Also what did you polish the aluminum with. Thanks
Russ...
I would especially appreciate the info on the brackets. When you published the video using the smaller screen, I asked myself why not do the same thing with the 15.6" touch screen. You are way ahead of my game and since I don't see a need to reinvent the wheel...I would appreciate any help you are willing provide. I too, am also willing to pay you consulting time.
will let you know when I post them a a few days
Tom Barefoot since the smaller screen was a tablet and I already had the snap in cover available it was just easier for me to cut off the front flap and pop rivet the case to the metal back. Brackets could be designed to hold a tablet or iPad just as easily. Of course if the monitor has vesa mount holes it told be affixed that way too, but mine did not.
Hello, great videos, just one question. I’m using honeycomb throttles, would the Air Manager work or confuse everything?
Could you use two of these monitors side-by-side to make it more or less like a full-size 172 cockpit and to be able to work both monitors with the one knobster
Hi Russ. I really appreciate your series of videos on the Knobster and
homebuilt cockpits. My Knobster arrived today, but I'm undecided how
I'm going to use it. I'm torn between copying your '$360 Touchscreen
Cockpit' and your earlier 'Twin Touch Monitor SIM'. Having used both
do you think the added cost and complexity of the dual monitor setup
adds proportionately to the experience and level of immersion?
Well the dual setup is definitely more realistic and capable BUTi f you intend to use a three monitor visual set up it does require a second computer and, if you want to display windows form XP11, the second computer needs to run XP11 too so the windows can be dragged to the panel monitors. My suggestion might be to do the easier option first but go ahead and purchase the second monitor so you will have a matched set later. It seems these little monitors are made by lots of vendors but may vary slightly so it would be difficult to match the monitor later. You wouldn't have too much invested in time or money doing the single monitor first and upgrade to the twin monitor later. In a year who knows...perhaps Vulcan and graphics cards might make it possible to drive all five monitors with a single computer. If you only want a single big screen scenery monitor and the two panel monitors the dual setup can be done with a single computer so it is also an option. You could add the three screen visual and a second computer later. Those are the two options I would consider based on how many scenery monitors you want.
Thank you Russ for your speedy response. My current monitor is a curved 34" so I've many options.
Hi Russ, thank you so much for your tutorials they are really helpful. I need a suggestion from you to build a cockpit to train especially for multi engine ifr flights based on g1000 cockpit, and of course I want to choose a cost effective solution. I can see in this video a setup that looks quite perfect, can you suggest something else for my purpose or is it the best way?
Thank you in advance!
Hello Russ, I have been watching your videos and have now purchased a touch screen and the knobster and AirManager. I have the beta version running for FS2020. I would really like to buy the panel you show at 7:46 in this video but cannot find it. Is it your personal creation? Anyway you could share it? I will purchase any items needed for the panel like the G1000. I just have not figured out the creation of panels yet. Any help would be great
Watch my channel. I have something in the works soon.
Hi Russ, would 15.6 inch be big enough .I'm undecided if i should make a 180 curved screen or use 3x games monitors screens , , either way i will be using Air manager with prob the 15.6 monitor for the instruments or glass screen, what do you recommend
Nice Russ. Thanks! Pretty much what I am brainstorming. Trial and error (and unnecessary $ spent) I'm moving towards a virtual setup for the flexibility.
STL Files at www.thingiverse.com/thing:4050743
Russ, new to sim. Enjoying your channel. I’m running X-Plane 11 on a MacMini M1 with a
Honeycomb yoke and throttle quadrant. I have a separate macMini and want to run air manager on its monitor. The two computers are connected over Ethernet. Is this possible?
Awesome! Do you set this 2nd touch monitor and knobster through X-Plane software. Guess I need to read more on how to set this up. Thank you for sharing.
I look forward to someone selling these units!
Rus, Can you please give information On the front monitor.
I love your videos.
Thanks, Ron
I fly msfs2020 and I have bought a 15.6” touch monitor. I would love to make the kind of set up that you show in your video but I don’t know where to start! Can you point me in the right direction please?
Thanks again for another great video. Starting on my flight sim here, using a WiMaxIt 15.6 monitor with air manager and knobster. Panel are logitech and a Real Sim Gear GNS 530. Only problem for me will the brackets for the monitor to hold on to aluminum panel. Will also be running FS 2020. Also what was the degree of bend you did for the aluminum panel for monitor. Since running logitech panels will I need an Arduino?
Logitech panels should have their own plugins
The threaded screws on back of monitor should hold it without problems
@@rbarlow Thanks
Thanks for posting an alternative to Russ' Prechen. I never found that monitor, but just ordered the Wimaxit. It looks perfect. And thanks to Russ Barlow for posting great content and alternatives to paying top $$$ for renting an AATD.
Russ,
I am a CFII in Raleigh NC and want to help some friends with their training using this setup. I have followed your lead from the start. I have the Prechen 15.6” touchscreen and run air manager as you have instructed. My question is, how do you ( or can you ) make the Garman 530 and 430 automatically stay loaded in the air manager windows behind the bezel ? Every time I turn on the computer , unless I leave it in sleep mode, I have to resize the GPS pop out and drag it don and into the bezels.
I too am waiting patiently on the knobster and think your invention is pure genius. Thanks for moving this idea forward !
Thankfully if you shut down an aircraft in XP11 (or quit X-Plane) with the G530 or G430 or G1000s opened and windows positioned, they will open to the same position the next time you open an airplane that has those units installed. If you close them you have to re-open and re-position them. Also if you located them at another location for another panel, they would open where they last were when they were last used. So if you use the same aircraft all the time OR create panels where they are located in the same place they will be where you want them. That is what I did on the G1000 PFD and MFD on the Cessna 172 and the VisionJet. The G1000's are at the same place for both airplanes so you can jump back and forth and the windows are correct. If you open an aircraft that doesn't have the window it has no effect. Thus you can change between the Cessna with G1000 panel and the Cessna 172SP with 530/430 without affecting the positions on the other. Just don't close the popped out windows. I can also tell you how to record the window positions in the XP settings file so you can reset them exactly without any dragging if they get screwed up. Hope this helps.
Russ, I have purchased the Stay Level Avionix panel and the 15.6" monitor and the Knobster I am planning to run X-Plane 11 on a new MacBook Air with the M2 chip, it should be here next month, and Air manager from my iPad Pro. Is there a hub that will work with the iPad Pro to allow it to connect to the new monitor and to the Knobster?
See other response to same basic question
I have available a 23 inch touch screen. I am running X Plane 11. I also have two regular monitors available for main monitors until 48 inch one come down in price. So can I assume that with a Knobster either purchased or DIY, I could have a decent setup for the 737? I also have an older iPad available.
It requires the instrument panel to be in Air Manager to work with Knobster so that may need to be made. There is an overhead panel now with others to come.
Russ....a couple questions.
Where are you located? USA?, cause if you are in the Netherlands, it would make my next question irrelevant due to the cost of shipping.
Next question. would you be able to print and sell the touchscreen brackets you showed on this video? What if I gave you slight dimension changes based on your bracket design?
I couldn't fit a 15.6" touchscreen onto my existing cockpit panel , so I just bought a similar Full HD, thin touchscreen from Amazon but it is a 12.3" display that is 0.29" thick. It arrives tomorrow, Sun Mar 15th, 2020. Once I measure everything and understand the dimensions of your brackets (is there a place that shows all your bracket dimensions? I can't read a .stl file format. Would you be willing, for a price, to make dimension mods, print and ship me one set of brackets to Vero Beach, Florida?
Hi Russ, does the knobster work without air manager? I ordered 3 55" TVs and would like to use a 24" touchscreen in front of the TV but behind the yoke to just replicate what is behind the yoke (that is, in effect just add touch capability to that area of the TV) so I can touch switches and it would be awesome to also be able to use the knobs. If not it would be a great plugin!
I think I have found my flight sim mentor! I really like the touch screen coupled with your Knobster. Great solution. I will be creating a purchase list of all these items as soon as I can stop watching your videos! By the way, it seems the addition of the touch screen undermines the use of VR. Yet, you mentioned you were awaiting the delivery of an HP VR headset. Would you mind helping me understand the role VR plays in your sim activities?
True. For me right now VR is mostly fun visual flying ... may even be better with MSFS VR soon.
Hey Russ Great work how do you see the air traffic management system on your setup ? I want to implement it for an autonomous drone with a cockpit inside to see the air traffic and then use that data to re-route the path using a 4g LTE connectvity.My flying range is about 500 mtrs initially.Looking forward to hear from you.Could I know which software did you use to implement this sim?
Wonderful video, thank you! May I ask you Sir, from where can I get this knob you are using, please? It's very, very convenient!
Ioannis Ntoumas Knobster is at Sim Innovations but only world with their Air Manager panels. www.theKnobster.com
Hi Russ. You have screwed the aluminium plate to the Yoke using the screws provided. As far as I can tell there aren't any screws in the box (none are listed in the contents) and I have no idea what size screws are required. Any ideas?
Thanks! (I got the Yoke and the Knobster for Christmas so am looking forward to experimenting!)
The screws are in the top of the Honeycomb Alpha yoke. Just remove them with an allen(hex) wrench and use them to affix the metal mount to the yoke.
@@rbarlow Ah! Thanks. I would never have noticed
I’d be interested in ur help with this project...re:was that a 15”Touch screen, etc.
Yes 15.6” touchscreen but sounds like maybe you didn’t watch the video? Happy to help.
Russ, I can see where height taller than the 15.6 inch monitor is problematic, but is there a wide touchscreen monitor of the same height, and about 29 inches wide available anywhere yet? That would give us a full width panel using a single panel. I have seen the widescreen monitors, but not in touchscreen.
C Barr I wish by know of no widescreen Touchscreen like you mention. Of course two 23” monitors give the necessary real estate but you have the center bezel and need another graphics port. I have seen guys put a mask over the 23 inch screen and install encoders for the knobs at various instruments. Looks quite cool but it is a little more work and you’re locked into a single aircraft type or at least panel layout.
Thanks for sharing. I just wish the price of the Knobster was less because at $100 I think is too much. You definitely deserve the $5 or more per piece. It is a great idea and no doubt a very real approach when it comes to use a sim touch cockpit, compare to a real plane. But at that price point and if you just compare how much Xplane and Air Manager cost and what they do, in my opinion the Knobster could be way less,
Jose Guzman I hear you but hardware is unlike software. With software you have fixed development costs and especially with downloaded software once you payback those costs each unit is almost all profit. Hardware has development costs plus production costs. Even after recouping the development costs there is a cost for production, inventorying, and fulfillment. Of course if they could order 100,000 units the cost could probably be less than $50. But that would be a $2-3 million order. So Sim Innovations orders 200-500 units and the price reflects their ist’s plus a meager profit.
You can build a Knobster yourself using an Arduino Nano and a dual encoder and some wires and solder. The Sim Innovations Wiki has Information and I could help further. Finically I would ask you to compare the cost a Knobster and a touchscreen to a comparable hardware set up.... it is a bargain. All sim hardware is expensive due to the relatively small potential market size.
@@rbarlow Thanks for your honest response. I did not know how small the Sim community was. I understand the cost explanations. I'll take a look at your suggestions about build my own. Don't get me wrong, I think the Knobster is a great product/idea and definitely one way or the other in my future plans.
Again, thanks for your honest and very informative explanations and ideas. Really enjoy your content.
Wish you the best from Orlando, Florida.
Saludos !!!
Hi Russ btw. what happened to your 3 monitor setup?
Aviation Sim&Travel still have it but to show this design borrowed one monitor(they are on rolling stands) from that set up and placed it in front of my VR cockpit setup. The alpha yoke is in that VR cockpit. I will return the third monitor to its home after I play with this new creation a few days.
Hi Russ,
A question.
I have gradually grown to appreciate the power of Air Manager to increase the immersion with Xplane 11, especially now that I’m using the Knobster.
I recently installed an external autopilot unit that really rounds out my setup... but I still have ONE thing I’m missing. All my panels include the B1900 Altitude Alerter instrument which I control with the Knobster, but this instrument does not have a button to “ARM” the altitude, which means I still have to go to the Xplane window to do that.
Are you aware of an Air Manager instrument that does this, or would you be interested in adding this feature to this instrument for a fee? I am a long-time lapsed pilot and I’m not inclined at this stage to learn the script language to do it myself.
Thx for your informative videos.
Joey
Back in the air again! If the functionality is in the simulator it could be added easily. Confirm for me this is the Beech 1900 Altitude Alerter and what aircraft you use it with. If I can do it in a couple hours or less no charge. I will try to look at it tomorrow after you reply.
Hi Russ,
Thank you for the quick response.
I use the altitude pre-select on the following aircraft, all of which support that function:
Default King Air c90
Carenado Baron B58
Carenado Pilatus PC12
Carenado King Air c90
Carenado Cessna 206 (non G1000)
Carenado Mooney M20R Ovation
... and maybe a couple of others that also support the function. The problem, as I’m sure you know, is that simply pre-selecting the altitude doesn’t help unless I can “Arm” it... otherwise climbing in VS or FLC mode will just keep the airplane climbing past the set altitude.
I’m using the B1900 altitude pre-select instrument but I could just as easily use the generic one which appears to be essentially the same.
Thx again.
Joey
Thanks for all the videos! I'm still trying to decide if I want to use Air Manager. Is there a way to get the G1000's for other aircraft besides the Vision jet? I'd like them for the default C172 for sure, and to be able to use them in the Hot Start TBM900 and others would be great as well. I really don't want to spend $2,000 on RealSimGear hardware. But that seems to be the easiest way to just drag and drop the XP11 G1000 PFD and MFD onto a monitor with hardware bezels. EDIT: I just stumbled onto your G1000 generic overlay. Is this all I would need to create the PFD and MFD using Air Manager and the Knobster? Thanks in advance.
Any aircraft in X-Plane using the G1000 or G530/430 can pop out the displays to use. Many add on aircraft also have pop out displays. Not sure about the TBM specifically but if it uses the internal XP G1000 or has its own method to pop out the display it will work.
@@rbarlow Thanks for the quick reply! I'm going to watch some more videos and do a little more research, but it sounds like Air Manager might be the way to go. One more question if I may. If I had two of those 15" monitors, one for the PFD and one for the MFD, would one Knobster control both?
Thanks for sharing this, Russ!
Hi Russ, maybe I missed it somewhere in your other videos or this one, but are your external scenery view displays PC monitors or are the HDTVs? In your one video that explains multidisplay geometry and setup, you mention that your displays are 49” (43” wide) so I would assume they must be TVs rather than monitors. If so, aren’t there issues with input lag, latency etc, that used to make TVs as monitors not such a good option? Or is that a thing of the past with the newer TVs? Would you mind telling us exactly what you are using for your scenery displays? Thanks !
CheckSixIvan yes they are 4K TVs but the video signal is only 1080p (1920 x 1080). They are Vizio TV but a few years old now so similar or better TVs are not very expensive now. Just be sure to get good wide viewing angle and beware of TVs with excessive input lag. A good source of info on TVs and how they work for gaming is at www.rtings.com/tv
Russ Barlow Thanks for the info. Had a multi screen setup awhile back but monitors were smaller. This option to use much larger TVs has resparked my simming interest! And once the bug bites.......
I have an iMac and want to transfer the PFD of my A320 model to my (apple) iPad. How can I do it?
If there is software that allows you to use the iPad as an external monitor for your computer and if the PFD can be popped out you can just drag it to the iPad screen. You didn’t say if the computer is windows or Mac and what sim X-Plane, P3D or MSFS
@@rbarlow Thanks for quick answer. I am using Apple Mac and X-plane11.51. X-Plane has some ports for external connection but I don’t know how to use them. For my Apple iPad I am seeking a suitable
application for transferring PFD on touch screen.
Excellent video, Russ. I am curious if that Cessna G1000 panel is available. I’m not finding it on Air Manager. Thanks.
Chris Cap I think it is offered as an alternate panel choice for the Cessna 172SP pay panel. Go to the panels tab and click new panel. Find the Cessna 172SP panel and when you select it and click next it will show all the optional 172 panels of which the G1000 panel should be one
Can you share the amazon link in the video description for everyone to follow.
I have a DOF Reality P3 motion simulator. Do you think this setup would break the top of the yoke due to the movements?
Hi Russ. Really appreciate your videos. I just got my new Alienware Aurora 12 with the Nvidia 3070 Graphics card. I bought the Wimaxit 1560CTV2 touchscreen monitor (No Prechen to be found). But, it does not want to play nicely. Can you tell me what connection you used? I have the video card going to a 43" HDTV using the HDMI cable. That only leaves display ports on the card and other ports on the computer that don't support video. Any suggestions? I'd really appreciate it. Have you upgraded your computer and touch screen lately? Am I doing something wrong?
You can buy a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter something like this
DisplayPort to HDMI, Benfei Gold-Plated DP Display Port to HDMI Adapter (Male to Female) Compatible for Lenovo Dell HP and Other Brand www.amazon.com/dp/B017Q8ZVWK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_R72ZYM1ZE02RQTM3BG55
You will need power and usb also to get the touch screen to work. May need to calibrate the touch if the touch monitor is not the main monitor or if you have multiple touch monitors. Go to settings and search “calibrate” and look for “calibrate touch and pen …” and follow the onscreen directions
@@rbarlow Thank you sir. I placed the order. It will be here tomorrow. Once I get it working, I will order the mount from staylevel, as you mentioned in other videos, and air manager along with knobster. I have the logitech multi panel and the radio panel. so, I will most likely be putting the necessary flight systems on the touchscreen.
Thank you so much for your help. Google kept me running around in circles.
Since I have 2 more display ports, I'll probably get two more HDTVs and make it a 185 degree FOV.
I will follow your other video to do the math and make sure the edges line up properly.
YOU are big help to many people. Keep up the good work.
@@rbarlow Got it. Hooked it up and downloaded air manager. Everything is working like you said. I did need to "calibrate" the touch screen. But, it didn't need calibration, only to identify which screen was the touch screen. Thank you again for all your help. Waiting on the mount coming from stay level.
@@billharmon2051 yes if the touch digitizer is made with the monitor windows only needs to know how to associate touch inputs with a specific screen. Glad it is working for you.
What Do You Think About Using Stylus Pen On A Smaller Touchscreen Monitor Like a 10 " Or 12 " Monitor?
Personally as a pilot I’m not used to using a stylus so I like doing it with fingers so I don’t have to pick up something and put it back down. It would definitely give more precision.
do you think this would be a great solution to the hot start tbm 900?
Hi Russ what type of computer do you use air manager on?
Just received my Knobster today!! Look forward to using it.
Great! I have several computers and two sims. I have a i7-9700k RTX2080ti for my XP11 VR sim but I have been testing FS2020 on too. My second has 3 monitors for scenery visuals on one computer and a panel with two more monitors on a second networked computer. Both are older i7 cpus and one GTX1070ti(scenery) and one GTX1070 for panels and Knobster. Air Manager can fun on quite a low powered computer. If you want to show pop up displays from the sim you need to run Air Manager on the same computer. Basically if your single computer runs the sim well it can handle the added monitor with Air Manager and lose less than 3-5 FPS. Check out these videos on my channel for more info
DIY Twin Touch Monitor Sim
th-cam.com/video/ZOdI__BMat4/w-d-xo.html
Five Monitor Sim and Only a Single Computer- XP11 Vulkan Stress Test
th-cam.com/video/ZOdI__BMat4/w-d-xo.html
Great innovation ! As always, thanks for sharing. With the set up in the video, is it easy to use the hat switch to look around in the main display (e.g. for flying the circuit) or, when touched, does the touchscreen become the active display meaning that main display would need to be re-selected before the hat switch can be used ?
In my setup you can use the touch screen and main display with the hat switch at the same time with no issues. You have to tell Windows which is the touchscreen monitor before using Xplane. Once monitors are connected just search calibrate touch screen and follow the instructions.
Amazing Video. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Russ, I am attempting to follow your deign, however, I am having a problem with the Prechen 15.6” touch screen monitor working with Air Manager. It took some searching to find the proper power adapter but the touch screen function still will not work. Very surprisingly and strangely, the instructions no where identify the manufacture or offer any customer service contact information. No one to contact for help. Do you by chance have any tips or insights as to how to get this monitor to work with Air Manager and X-Plane 11.41? Thanks. I am always on the look out for your next informative video.
Robert, i had the same experience with my first Prechen monitor. You must use both USB cords. As far as I could tell the small one Is for the touch function. I figured this out because when I connected it I would get a square appearing on my main monitor. You then must go into your control panel and calibrate the touch monitor. Basically letting the computer know that it is a touch screen. Michael Brown has a you tube video with the step by step procedure. One other thing, go thru your program manager files and make sure that all the USB ports power management is set to always on. Sometimes the computer will limit the power consumption by turning off random USB ports. This can also be found on you tube. Good luck.
Similar experience. Hi got no paperwork at all with my monitor. The info from the site I purchased it from was also confusing. However I do have a working setup. Assuming I have the same monitor as you, my configuration is HDMI and USB cables plugged in. I *think* the USB cable supplies the power for the touch screen (it won't turn on if the USB is not connected). However, I then had to configure my display as a touch screen in Windows, otherwise when I touch the screen it thinks I'm interacting with my main monitor. I think I used the touch screen calibration feature of Windows 10 for this (I'm not at my computer right now so I'm trying to remember). I just searched for instructions on how to setup a touch screen and found something that said to go to a touch screen calibration tool in Control Panel. I'm pretty sure I just had to specify which monitor was a touch screen and then it all worked. The impression from the site (which I only noticed after I bought it) was that a separate power cable would be required for the touch screen to work. For me, this turned out not to be the case, which is good because none was supplied with the monitor. Let me know how you get on :)
John Panik Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll try and report back.
Wayne Sibley My screen seems to be like yours: a USB power adapter with an HDMI cable. Since the instructions said the touch screen function also needed a 12v power adapter I tried a number and think I finally got the right one. I had no idea you needed to turn on the touch screen function in Windows 10 so I will try everything you and John suggested and let you know the results. Thanks again.
John and Wayne, no luck. While Windows has detected and will display to the Prechen the Human Device Interface does not detect the Prechen so I cannot enable touch screen. I Googled for help and tried everything suggested with no better results. I am going to send the Prechen back to Amazon and either try a replacement or purchase a different brand; one which has its manufacturer identified and provides customer support. Thanks again for your help.
Great solution for the budget minded for utilizing the Prechen monitor. I can see why you did this with the Honeycomb as it's reasonably priced and provides a way to secure metal panel to the yoke. Do you think there's a reasonable solution if it was a Yoko yoke?
stl files now at www.thingiverse.com/thing:4050743
@@rbarlow I went ahead and ordered the bezels for the Prechen monitor. Unfortunately that monitor died on me 2 days ago but I will be getting another or at least one with the same bezel thickness. I would prefer one with connections in the rear rather than the side. I'm stuck on how to make the metal panel. I don't have the necessary tools. Any way you would be able to make one? I'm willing to pay for the materials and your labor costs.
In my setup I use a gas monitor arm I got from Amazon. I can place the monitor pretty much anywhere I want. All I have is a cheap yoke and I am able to place the monitor on top at any distance. The arm is very easy to mount on my table, Mine suports monitor up to 27" and about 15lbs. I have a 22" touch screen that weights about 8 lbs. I paid $27 for the arm.
Which gas monitor are you using?
@@vpwebsvc www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T3KCQ94/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I got a B58 instrument panel from 1mm aluminum sheet, now It rying to figure out what will be the batter way to go laminating or painting. Can you, please, explain the process of painting along with the link to the Paints. I know that require prime and special paint. but maybe I'm wrong
Tnx
Y Ben-Ad I shouldn’t be giving advice about painting because it’s definitely not something I know much about, but I used spray enamel paint that I bought at a auto supply store in the clearcoat to put over that. It was primer and paint in a single product so I used a scotchbrite pad to to clean and roughen the surface slightly and then put on a couple coats. Then a couple clear coat applications. I smoothed any imperfections with the pad between coats. If you are serious you might het an auto body shop to shoot it....couldn’t cost very much and they know what they are doing viz. me.
@@rbarlow .... Yeah, Auto Body shop, is, probably, the way to go, but then I'll need to figure out how to label the panel, so maybe laminating the entire pedestal, is the more practical approach.
Tnx Russ
Great video Russ, I am new to flight sims, just got the honeycomb alpha, could you do a tutorial on setting up the honeycomb for A320 aircraft.
also would you be able to send me the build details of your rig set up and touch screen cockpit panel with instructions on how to connect everything,
John I understand you are just getting started in Sims but that is a pretty broad array of info you are requesting. Setting up the Honeycomb or any Yoke with X-Plane is about the same. You just have to decide which buttons you want to assign to what. You do this on the settings joystick tab. It is not hard and there are many tutorials on TH-cam. As for the A320 how you assign the switches available is not cut an dried.
What do you mean "build details of your rig"? computer, hardware, what?
I have covered the Touchscreen in more than one video. Not sure exactly what connections you mean?
Be patient. It will take a little online research and study to figure things out. There are many resources on TH-cam, X-Plane.org forums, and Laminar Research website.
Happy to answer and more specific questions you may have. Good Luck. This really is a fun hobby.
Have you ever tried incorporating the GTN 650 into Air Manager? Does this exist? My Skyhawk at the club has one and wanted to replicate the experience better.
Julius Goth I have not but have incorporated the GTN750 from RealityXP. They have a GTN 650 too so it shouldn’t be hard. See my video
th-cam.com/video/T5n46zkgLNo/w-d-xo.html
Let me know if you need help.
Also will the Knobster work with X Plane without Air Manager? Particularly due to my interest in the 737?
No, you need Air Manager.
Thank you Russ.
I like realistic size instrumentation. Do you find the 15.6” monitor provides this for steam gauges as well as the dual G1000 setup? Would a larger monitor work better or just be overkill?
gerdelt 15.6” is definitely much smaller than real live. I think you might get a full size six pack on the monitor. The resolution is quite sharp so the smaller size doesn’t limit functionality. The monitor can also display a single G1000 PFD OR MFD at about full scale. I don’t think you could mount a larger monitor on the Alpha Yoke...it would need it’s own structure for support. A 32” monitor would probably be needed to approximate full size for the panels in this video.
So cheap and cool! Thanks 🙏🏼
Great explanations, very useful indeed. One question: do you use the Matrox card to run your 3 flat screens ??? Thanks for enlighten me.
Alain Keller I have an NVIDIA GTX 1070ti to run the three screens as the external visual copy of XP11. I run the cockpit screens using a 1070 running the master copy of XP11 and Air Manager. If you only need one cockpit monitor or do not need to show popped out XP windows in your Panels you could probably run a 4 monitor setup on a single computer or a 5 monitor setup without a second copy of XP.
@@rbarlow Many thanks for such a speedy answer....Much appreciated
can you please post a svg or stl file of the back plate, I think I can 3D print it in sections and glue them together. thanks
I really didn’t draw it up. I just laid out the monitor on the Aluminum sheet and wagged it. I think a sheet is easier that gluing parts together but who knows. Flight velocity has a $49 plastic version and Stay Level Avionix has. $99 version of steel that is very sturdy,
@@rbarlow thanks a bunch for the quick reply and the informative videos, I think I can 3D print something to fit my needs
@@waynec96I’d love love to see what you come up with. Good luck.
hi again, i noticed your dimensions on your video and then compared them to what the Prechen Monitor shows under a question and answer, they show Please look below, didn't seem to match and it's the exact same monitor. could you double-check on your amazon order to see what the true dimensions were showing. I have the brackets on order but am wondering if it would work. I think someone has the numbers mixed up a bit. such as the person below that put those dimensions in the question and answer section of my Prechen monitor that has the same part # as yours.
This monitor thickness is 9.5 mm
width is 375mm
height is 277
By Ling Liu on June 9, 2019
How can i get air manager to work on this monitor without an apple product?
What do you mean "without an apple product?" There are no apple products used on this set up in the video. Just a single windows computer running Air Manager and X-Plane 11. It works with P3D and FSX too. If FS2020 supports simconnect as advertised in their development info it should be working with that too when it is released. Maybe you can explain your comment if I don't understand the question you ask. Thanks.
would like kit info
No kit but Stay Level Avionix sells bracket now and you can buy monitor to use. I suggest you watch my recent videos on this bracket.
th-cam.com/video/Wsv3PFnn1Z8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ED8S4Bat1C8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/WuqaE-L0Jh4/w-d-xo.html
Great job, thanks for sharing. Tesla Paul. P.s. dry helpful
Are you using a separate CPU to support Air Manager?
Only one CPU since I want to take the GPS and G1000 poput windows from X-Plane and use then along with the Air Manager panel. To do this the monitors have to be all part of the same desktop...same computer
Thank you for the quick response!
Very cool.
I see an 18" Harbor Freight Bending Brake listed on their website with the black Ball handles like you have, but it looks like yours was a bit wider, do you remember how many inches wide your Bending Brake is? thanks in advance. SUBSCRIBED, & Thumbs UP
Harpoon_Bakery 18” is okay of your material will fit but for $20 more I got
www.harborfreight.com/30-inch-bending-brake-67240.html
I'd buy this bracket with a quickness. Come on someone!
Quite easy to build and there are some small monitors now that have mounting screw holes(VESA) on the back so you wouldn’t need the brackets you could just attach it from the rear. The metal frame is quite easy to build.
Russ, Sign me up! my son and I are building a sim so I can teach him how to fly. I would like to do what you have done, but have questions about how to hook this all together. How can I contact you with my questions?
You've selected a shockingly overpriced monitor there....
Watch the video. The price in the title includes the mount and the Knobster input device. The full HD touchscreen monitor is about $200