Being Tough on a Tenant
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- The plaintiff was planning on moving into an apartment the defendant had for rent. She couldn’t get electricity because she had an unpaid electric bill from several years prior and the defendant refused to provide electricity. She later decided not to move in, so she’s suing for a return of her security deposit and aggravation. The defendant said the plaintiff tried to put electricity in her ex-husband’s name, and she thought it was fraud.
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Doug loves to embarrass people on national television. Like asking her how she got her electricity lol
I love it. It's court. He asked a legitimate question.
@@phylisswright4847 You can tell he caught her off guard lol
He does🤣
Doug has zero fucks to give!!! I love him. 😂
@@talltalllady *caught* her off guard
We just need a compilation from people’s court of all savage moments of doug😂😂😂
I fully endorse this! Love Doug 😂😂😂😂😂
I’m here for that 😂😂😂.i can’t wait until the end of each case to see him make everyone feel uncomfortable 😂😂😂
For real 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
I LOVE WHEN THEY JUST WALK AWAY!
I agree. 😂
The judge was right in that not renting to the plaintiff may have been the smartest decision she made. However, the defendant had no right to keep any of the deposit money. She should just be thankful that she likely avoided headaches down the road trying to collect the rent. 🙏
She is just going to rack up the electric bill in her brothers name now.
Say it again! Trust and believe times are changing. As ppl are scammed by relatives (ie using children's social security numbers for phones and whatever else).
If he’s a smart man, he won’t let that happen. If she doesn’t pay one month, he’ll be smart and cut that shit off.
No, this is where personal responsibility comes in. All he has to do is make sure he logs in online or an app and confirms she paid the bill each month. He can cut it off at anytime.
I don't understand why she even told the landlord her ex was going to put the electricity in his name. Its none of her business. Either way, Plaintiff should have been awarded some damages. You can't just cancel someones lease a few days before they are supposed to move in. You know how hard it is to scramble to find a decent place to live? ESPECIALLY considering she made the Plaintiff fight to get her deposit back...meaning she was out $2k to put down on a different apartment.
Absolutely agree . She must had already asked about including the light bill to the rent and had to tell her what happened with her past light bill and the landlord didn’t wanna rent to her after that in must of made a big deal about no one else’s name can be on the light bill but who’s on the lease
Actually the electric company in my town requires a lease in my name as well. Most utility companies ask for this (Sarasota FL). The lease would have to be in HIS name
Because the landlord would have had to provide a lease saying he was on the lease thats why she kept saying it was fraudulent
If the lease states that the tenant is put the electricity in her name, she signed the lease agreeing to that, and should not be paid for not doing it. I don't think the landlord should have been able to keep the whole deposit, but at least a portion to make up for the month she will now not have a tentant.
@@laurachahulski3857 IF the lease said that, then sure. Her lease didn't say that. I've never heard of a lease saying that either.
I get tired of hearing women say I'm a single parent as if that is an excuse for not being able to pay your bills
I mean, it could be a legitimate excuse. If the spouse died or left them cold and dry with no money or child support, it could only make it harder for them to pay the bills. I can't believe you wouldn't know this already.
I don't understand why people have children and can't afford them. That should be a requirement before populating.
😂😂
@@TheAmber1019pipe dreams; emotional needs; selfishness, etc.
Her sentence of I'm a single mother of 4 was unbelievably depressing.
@@KennuhWayne Exactly
In Wisconsin we do not have to show anything for electricity!! The defendant is wrong!!! Its none of her business who's name a bill is in!!!!
Just the opposite in MD . Pepco electric company will only turn on power only if your name is on the lease.
Well here Georgia power and all southern companies and the water company too you do and most places you do especially if you have an old bill. They want it paid not getting it in everybody else's name to keep from paying it judge got it dead wrong
Yeah some states you have to be on the least. I know in Georgia you have to had some other bill or mail in your name for the gas company.
Criminal... imagine you find out someone racked up THOUSANDS in your name on their electric bill. I know someone who's ex-girlfriend did that. He went to her house to confront her and it ended with police and everyone being arrested.
Where I live your name has to be on the lease. The land lord dodged a big problem. Single mom with 4 kids that don’t pay her bills. The perfect victim. If she got behind on her rent she would play every victim card she could.
Doug is such a savage 😂
He is. I'm surprised no one has punched him yet. Lol
That's why he is in a Weird Al Yankovic video...
He's going to meet someone’s👊🏾 one day😂
*chefs kiss* to dougs savagery
Which one babs?@@BabbleOn777
I've lived in MA and RI and never had to show a lease to the electric company.
Yeah me neither and I live in MA
Same in Florida
Same in NY and GA
Same in md
same in Wisconsin
A 4k electric bill sounds like a whole year's worth of defaults.
It probably got that high because of fines. Electric companies wouldn't leave the power on for long enough time to get that high.
doug is so eternally savage. one word shade, in the form of a QUESTION ! "how?" 1-word-interrogative shade. brilliant.
The landlord just needed proof that the Utility Company required the person to be on the lease to get lights their name.
Actually this isn't true. The judge was asking her for proof of what she was saying because she didn't believe what she was saying. A tenant can move into a house and never turn on the electricity if they want but once you deny them the ability to move in then you broke the contract and have to return their money
No the judge should have done her research on the case. And common sense the only reason the tenant asked the landlord was because she needed her to put him on the lease fraudulently smh
@@RitaCannon-ef2sg finally someone with common sense. Because why would I need to tell the landlord that. The girl needed the landlord to put the ex on the lease, I wish the son was listening carefully.
@RitaCannon-ef2sg the judge isn't supposed to do any research. It is the litigants' responsibility to provide the proof of their claim.
@@RitaCannon-ef2sg Its not the judges job to prove your case for you. In this instance, I bet the research assistants that work for People's Court actually DID the research and found out there is no such requirement from the power company. The judge kept saying "can you prove it?" because she knows theres no such thing.
Wow, is this the first time that Harvey is disagreeing with the judge? 🤷
No, he just repeats the summation of her judgement.
Didn't seem like it.
He did disagree with her once about security deposits.
He didn’t disagree he agreed with her they both said it was no fraud for her stop the tendency aka pull the lease.
Hopefully old Harvey gets de-hired.
So much conviction in these comments. We do need to be mindful that laws are different everywhere. In a state or county with deregulated laws electric companies don’t require much to get your lights on. In the parts of Texas where I have lived I have never had to show a lease to get electricity. I have gotten them all on over the phone not even in person. But the plaintiff is all kinds of wrong but to deny her because she was putting them in someone else’s name was why she breached. She should have cut her losses with this lady she is a proven liability!
100% agree with everything you said!!
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Where I live in TX, the coop required me to go to the office and show proof of residence.
I hate when JM says who’s gonna pay my aggravation? 🙄 She got millions to sit in that seat.
The point is... she gets paid to do her job... not pain and suffering for aggravation. Duh 😂
You’re jealous because you’re broke?
I’ve only had to show my lease for water .. not for electric
I wouldn’t rent to her ass.. 4K for a bill that’s YEARS old?! She don’t pay her shit and avoids it in any way possible
Where I live I have never had to show a lease to turn on utilities. Landlord has utilities in their name, just transfer utilities
That’s not every where. Especially not in Southern California, where I reside.
Not here either have to show a lease
Thats not true in all places or electric companies
Not here in az if you mess up the address that’s on you entirely same in Dallas.
@@francinec.4861 I've lived in LA and Palm Springs, never had to show any proof of residency , so not sure where in So Cal you live....
Judge, it's a problem because once he gets a utility (mail/bill) in his name at that address he is now a legal tenant there. But, she wasn't renting with the understanding that he would also be living there. She doesn't know him or if he is a bad person(felon, etc.) and did not have the opportunity to get an application or run a background check on him. And if he decided to move in there and not pay rent, she would have to go through the entire eviction process. Which would be even more difficult because he's not even on the lease (i.e. has not contract to pay).
Exactly!!!
You are wrong
you can put electric in some one else name
Nope in many states you can't. It's illegal.
@@darling-niki8811not in Indiana
Only if you're a bum or tweaker
Well maybe I am wrong maybe it is illegal
@@tommykrynock you're not wrong, it just varies depending on your county.
I hate when people feign ignorance over old bills..you knew you had that bill.
Can’t blame the landlord for wanting to do things the right way smh but she needs to give that money back 😅
Do you have electricity 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Doug is freakin hilarious! I love staying til the end to hear what questions he’s gonna ask to get a reaction out of them. 😂
Single, 4 kids, multiple baby daddy’s, wow she’s a keeper.
I have to differ with the decision. Yes she can get it in someone else's name legally. When the utility company finds out that she has an old bill, they can turn it right back off.
In Louisiana we do not need to show proof of anything. Literally just call and give a name and pay deposit and its on.
The utility company do require a copy of the lease here so a person who owes over $4,000 wont run up another bill and don't pay it
Right
Not all utility companies ask for a lease some just want an address and a name and social.
Im in my 40s and lived in 3 states, never been asked for a lease to turn on electricity, gas or water.
WRONG!!!
@@fuller8705 thats true but the judge says its not a comma practice but it is on a lot of areas
Utilities in someone’s name that is not on the lease establishes residency for that person. Landlord is smart for not allowing it.
I would be concerned as a landlord of this lady. If she couldn't get lights in her name because of her not paying the previous light bill then, most likely, she is going to struggle to pay the rent. Rent is way more expensive than the light bill.
Who’s gonna pay you? The network….theyre paying you millions of dollars to get aggravated
And you getting aggravated gets the traction the channel needs 👍
I still cannot believe there's a literal judge that doesn't understand the most basic definition of fraud.Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
If her ex husband signs then it should be fine. You can put electricity under your name for your college kids, etc 🤷♀️
In that situation where for example a parent was going to be paying an older child's bill they would still want the bill in the person residing their name and then add the parent as a secondary so they could call and make payments on their behalf. There are utility companies out there who do require a lease if the person has an outstanding balance and then tries to put it in somebody else's name. Then there are actually utility companies who straight up require a lease at all to get Services turned on, every company is different.
"I'm a single mother of 4." So, was my mom, but she paid her bills. That always came first. Everyone has an excuse for not being responsible.
Because of she doesn't pay her bills.... you won't get paid either.
Yup. Good luck to her new landlord.
Not always true. Some people will prioritize their rent before their bills so atleast they will have a roof over their heads.
I agree to a point.....I was a property manager for years. I am also a renter. Yes, my rent was important, but the apartments I managed were all electric. You can't legally live there until the electricity is turned on PERIOD. I've had single moms have the electric in a family members name. While I have sympathy for them (I was a single mom too) having a $4k past due bill is a red flag. I had a family that was $8k behind in rent. The owner wanted to let them do a payment play......what a train wreck!! You will never be able to catch up because you're trying to pay off the back rent, while still having to pay your current rent. Plus, it affected the other tenants attitude about being late or short on their rent......"I'm only $400 short, and bill and wanda owe $8k!!"
But she was together with her husband then and clearly said he was the one responsible for payment and didn’t pay! How is that her problem now?
How is it fraud if her ex is allowing her to put it in his name? The defendant was wrong. Glad the plaintiff got her money back.
You can put in someone else's name as long as the bill is PAID. I have done this before.
Please stop asking these people outside. They know nothing
Hahaha it’s always been a thing on this show. Interactive 😅 but ya bunch of idiots hahaha
I think the plaintiff's fraud claim is what set it up to make herself lose. She should have taken no action and the tenant would have been the one to breach and lose the deposit.
THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN A BLESSING FOR THE PLAINTIFF BECAUSE THE DEFENDANT IS ALREADY OVER STEPPING TALKING & WORRYING ABT SHIT THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO W/ HER. THEN SHE'S LYING & THE SON IS CONDONING HER BS. PAY THAT WOMAN HER $$$ THIEF
Why are you that angry?
The requirements for getting utilities turned on varies by either state regulations, or, in the absence of state regulations, can vary depending on the providers policies. In California there are several different utility companies depending on area of California one lives. Each have different requirements. For example, one company will run a credit check and income verification, another company limits the number of accounts that can be opened in a person's name, another company will not allow utilities to be turned on in the name of a minor child---which is what many people used to do---then they'd move out owing and years later the child can't get utilities. I suspect there are places in the country where a lease is required.
If the child is a minor then an outstanding bill from his childhood will not affect that child in adulthood because a minor child cannot ratify a contract due to age and therefore it is not legal.
@@skeetsneufeld6305 What you are saying makes sense. However, I know from experience this is what used to happen. What you are failing to consider is that the vast majority of people having to put utilities in their children's names were poor. Often poor people don't have the money, resources, and/or intelligence necessary to fight large utility companies. Eventually those utility companies changed their policies to prohibit the use of children---most likely to limit losses. Furthermore, utility companies in California are always being sued to unethical and illegal acts.
Doug has no chill’ I❤his sarcasm’
I hate when women say “I’m a single mother” when it comes to anything that’s a problem.
Judge is out of touch with reality. She's been rich so long that she does not have a clue. She thinks that she knows everything. I have stopped watching her like use to due to rulings like this. I use to love her but now, not so much now.
Id be surprised if the brother didn't end up having to sue😂
If I walk into Target and steal $4k of goods, that's theft. If i steal $4k from a public utility, apparently there are no consequences. Shame on the plaintiff.
Do you really not understand the difference in those scenarios…? You don’t get arrested for not paying a loan or utilities because it’s not a crime and there is legal recourse, courts. You get arrested for shoplifting because it’s a crime and you need to be identified so you can be prosecuted. If shoplifters gave the store a copy of their drivers license, their social security number and last two pay stubs and signed a contract to repay $4k in items the shoplifter wouldn’t get arrested either, because it wouldn’t be shoplifting, simply failing to repay an agreed upon amount which is not a crime.
Doug asked the landlord if she.was EMBARRASSED 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Some places it’s state law that says that it has to be a person that’s living at the property to put the bill in there name!
Doug asked the right question to the wrong person. “What you did was wrong. You’re not embarrassed?”
Lmao funny asf you think that 😂
I agree !!!
I get so annoyed when judge says , “who’s paying me for aggravation?” Girl, you are literally getting paid as u say that 😂
It irritates me too when she says that.
Doug: You did a bad thing. Ha ha tell your mom. 😂
Las Vegas utilities do not allow you to have an account without proof of address with another utility bill or lease/ownership. Some landlords require the account number to sign lease.
The defendants can’t make up rules. The judgement was right. I want to ask the son whose name his electricity is in or even his mom, exactly it’s none of our business.
" tell your mom"😂😂😂😂😂😂
I agree with the older lady . The tenant is starting off with some shit . But she should have given her back and told her to kick rocks.
You got electricity? Yes How? 😂😂😂
Some utilities require that the account holder occupy the property (like my brothers in Florida). He’s passed away, and I wanted to put it in my name to keep the power on until probate cleared. The utility balked until I showed them that it was going through probate and would shortly be in my name (as the executor). Then they said OK.
I hate when Red says “who is going to pay me for my aggravation” ….. YOU GET 130,090 per episode!
Yes! My daughter's utilities were in my name for 4 years, and the utility company never cared. I did, because sometimes I had to pay the bill when she didn't.
You got electricity...How??? Doug so ruthless 😂😂😂😂
So maybe the landlord gets a utility allowance and it has to be in the name of the person on the lease to get the allowance for each unit. So technically what the plaintiff was tryna do was gonna keep her from getting it anyways. The plaintiffs credit probably would've stopped her also because owing utilities is definitely on her credit.
&&&&& there's no way I'm going to allow anybody to move into my property and they have a outstanding balance of $4,000 electricity bill . . . 💯
In Philly gas and electric are two different companies. Gas asks for copies of leases but electric doesn’t
I like how the judge kept saying....."Show Me"!!
Omggg am dead he said she did a bad thing tell ur mom I swear I laughed out loud his funny 😂😂
I totally disagree with Judge. I am a landlord, for 30 years. Here is an example, why I disagree, about electric account, in another's name that isn't on lease. Here in Oklahoma, if you have utility bill in your name, you can use this as proof of occupancy. Let's say, the person with utility in their name is a FELON, on probation, but not able to get approved to live there, they now can show they proof of residency, at places that requires it. (In Oklahoma - you can) and lets say, this person is a child molester, and residency is next to school. They now can apply for assistance at places who don't check background, as long as they have utility bill of that location. Like to Vote, to get Free services and meals, and Landlord has to file a whole eviction (takes months) to get that person - to stay away (if they are a problem). Ruining the Landlord's character and reputation - who leases to anyone. It's a Long story. To many examples. Because our legal system defends the guilty over the innocence. Here in Oklahoma, the Electric Company (AEP) does not care "who's name" the power is on to. Feel free to ask questions, if you can't understand me....I am in a hurry, as I type this....but had to share it.
I think the point is not whose electric company that the name is under, it’s the landlord didn’t let her move in and wouldn’t return her money. It’s really none of the landlords business how she gets her electricity turned on. That’s between her and the electric company.
Hello Shirley, I’m sorry I didn’t make myself clear. It’s the identity, issue. Like I said, I’ve been landlord a very long time. Electric company used to care. However, greed has changed their policies. 😢
This is why, if you can afford it, hire a property manager. They would have known what to do in this situation. In this day and age trying to "do it yourself" as it relates to other people when renting or leasing property is risky at best. Before doing anything with a tenant ALWAYS get advice FIRST before you take any action.
The defendant was smart not to rent to her because more than likely she won't pay her rent. But the judge was right, she had to return the deposit.
In NyC u need a lease to open up utilities. It may not be in other states but in NyC it is. Doesn’t matter who pays it, but if does matter who’s name it’s under. And if it’s not in the tenants name, now that other person is deemed a legal tenant and has rights to the apartment because they are paying utilities and have bills in their name coming to that unit. The landlord had no obligation to oblige to that.
LADIES KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE YOUR CHILDREN AS A REASON AS TO WHY YOU'RE "STRUGGLING!" Clearly you weren't struggling when he was pumping you right? 🙄🙄🙄
I guess this varies by state. When I was in college, I had an apartment off-campus and my mother put the electricity in her name. She wasn’t on my lease.
Yeah, She is wrong on the electricity. A number of utilities companies will not open an account without that person's name on a lease. This is rather common knowledge. I have had a water company demand a ridiculous amount of documentation to turn on water.
That said, the landlord should have simply stated, "I don't think the electric company will put the account in your ex-husbands name, because he is not on the lease, and I'm not going to put his name on the lease, unless he actually lives here"
Then, the defendant would have broken the terms of the lease and the landlord could have kept the security deposit.
Ur wrong
In my area, you have to show your lease agreement and be named on the lease as financially responsible in order to get any utilities turned on, to dissuade squatting.
I would have turned this plaintiff down also, the minute her credit check came back with this red flag shining bright. Only difference being I would have returned her money.
As soon as the judge asked the defendant for proof of what she was saying she should have told her to call the electric company to verify. I think the ruling was fair, the plaintiff deserved her full security deposit returned to her because she basically never lived in the apartment.
Or she could of googled that states laws on utility. It's not hard to do.
How do someone let a previous light bill get so high. Yikes ! 😮
I bet it's not the first time the Defendant has done this..
Judge M really needs to stop calling litigants and witnesses 'sweetheart', 'darlin', and the like. She does that frequently, and it's inappropriate.
And if the electricity bill is now t paid and plaintiff leaves the house who is the defendant going to sue and how to find that person?
Landlord certainly can't keep any money but the Judge may be off the mark on utilities requiring proof of tenancy for billing. It is a requirement in some locations.
I love the young girl in the crowds “I believe in Josh Dun” shirt! We are huge twenty one pilots fans and I bought that shirt for my daughter. lol.
Them people outside must never had a apartment or house you can get your lights in anybody name you want tf😂
The plaintiff knows the law 😊
Anybody can turn electricity on in an apartment unit. The bill payer does not have to be on the lease!!!
God bless **brothers**.
Some housing communities require the utilities to be in the lease holder’s name.
In Ontario Canada..you must be the same person on the lease for utilities
JM has lost her mind. I wouldn't agree with the plaintiff getting electricity in an ex-husband's name. SMH
I use to love this judge and her show but after the pandemic, I started to dislike her more and more because she is becoming more like judge Judy and she so bipolar with her cases. For example, I’ve seen her scold a lot of people to stop signing their names for other people and told them it’s wrongful to do that but here the plaintiff openly admitted that she is having her brother put his name under the electricity for her because she owes money towards her old electricity bill but the judge doesn’t go off on her about having someone else use their name for her benefit 😒 she doesn’t even judge now she just picks and choose whoever she feels like it
Sounds like the plaintiff was taking advantage on someone else's account.
Judge probably hasn’t rented in a while so maybe it was different back then. Most apartment complexes definitely wanna see the utilities and renters insurance is in your name. Why would she not give her the whole deposit back though?? She’s coming off as scammy
That's not true for all states. Some don't require any. I turned mine on over the phone. They didn't ask for a lease.
They don't ask for lease here in Alabama just a name and a deposit
@@danilutkaoh wow. Guess it just depends on the state
She should’ve gotten extra. The lease was signed and the contract was broken days before she was supposed to move in.
I disagree with the Judge decision!! In every apartment I lived in I had to show a lease as proof I live there! Maybe the plaintiff is one of the Judge family member
Both cases are Spanish people so I doubt it…even though the judge is Spanish too ….
The judge needed to check with the utility company.Where I rented for 20 plus years you have to be on the lease.I don’t know where she got her info but that was a ridiculous decision.
Her info: Based off available evidence and the law.
Yours: Anecdotal, nonfactual (ie only true based off some peoples experiences/not law). Its not the judge’s responsibility to verify company policies. The defendant should have brought evidence that supported her account which is not standard/nor a law. She brought her “flapping gums” and no evidence.
Nope not in all states..
@@nunyabidify I’ve seen her call people off camera to find information on a case.She can do what she wants to do.The fact is she has different actions for different people.She needs proof one day and won’t ask for proof the next.She was very unwilling to assist in this case.She’s very bias.
Nope u r wrong. Never in my life have had to show a lease.
There might be some utility companies out there that aren't strict but I know for a fact that some require a lease to get service is turned on and then others will require a lease if you have an outstanding balance and then try to put the bill in someone else's name at the same address. I used to be an on-site manager and I myself had to speak with the utility company and fax over a lease because the tenants who we're moving in were in that exact same situation.
This always making an effort to elicit a negative response. So cringe. Why would she be embarrassed? She did what she thought was the right thing to do. Then putting his hand on her shoulder like they are friends. So creepy
Doug… you did a bad thing! …. lol 😂
Take away, the defendant learned a lesson regarding the electricity. She does have a choice to not rent to the person if she feels they dont pay their bills, obviously. But in that case she should still have to give $ back and rent to someone else that she feels more comfortable with
If she couldn't move in then yes she should get her money back
It definitely depends on the housing situation. Private landlords, you can put it in someone else name as long as you and landlord have understanding. Low income housing, you have to show the agency proof that you put the utilities in your name before you can move in
Yes judge, you do get paid for your aggravation 😊