Filipe Espinosa: A Serial Killer in the Wild West
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Propoganda begins at 6:49, ends at 8:27.
14:55 caption reads 1963 should be 1863! Very sloppy Editor. Shame on you 🙏⚡️
I know a few more stories from the San Luis valley if you're interested in getting a hold of me to talk about it. Hit me up if you feel like it and I will send you my email address.
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I'd like to see a video on The Glanton Gang. They were a group of scalp hunters that worked their way through Mexico in the 1850's. They were paid per Indian scalps by the Government. They took any scalp that looked like it could of been Indian though, so Mexican people were butched by them too. My favorite book of all time is Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy. It's based on those events, but fictionalized in a lot of ways. A video on Cormac McCarthy would be equally great!
The good old days lol
@@humphreybumblecuck5151 not a cellphone in sight.
@@kylegreene1356 lmao
@@kylegreene1356 Just people living in the moment
the Glantons weren’t the only ones who did this either, it was a legitimate profession in the west
Id love to hear more about Tom Tobin. A quick review of his biography tells me he lived quite an adventurous life.
He was an amazing man. He is buried about 5 miles west of Ft. Garland. They have great stuff on him at the Ft.
Right.. he most interesting person in this video
Dude's total badass he may had hunted them on his own.
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He would have ended up dead if he hunted them by himself
@@alphinmesa9945 He incapcitated both of them before they could fire back.
Since we’re talking about psychopaths from the old west, I would suggest a video on John Joel Glanton (1819-1850). The Cormac McCarthy book Blood Meridian is about him and his gang
I just wrote the same recommendation before seeing yours. Glanton would make a great video! A video on McCarthy would be great too.
Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't the point of the book to finally end the fantasies of the wild west and to finally show the violent cruel time it was?
@@elemperadordemexico it was just a bunch of run away confederates who were murdering and raping on their run from the union. The Wild West is a scourge on our history. We should either give it back to Haiti since they paid for it or at best give it back to the Indians we genocided and stole the land from. Nothing about the Wild West story is something that should be celebrated
@@elemperadordemexico Don't come between a mediocre white man and his cowboy fantasies.
@@elemperadordemexico surely that's what that video would be, no? I don't see how a tell-all description of the sordid life of John Joel Glanton would play into the typical fantasies re. the Wild West.
Biographics is the pinnacle of what these types of videos should be.
As a person of Mexican descent, the tracker thought he said Bruto but I think you need to replace the “Br” with a “P” and I’ll bet my life savings, this is what he actually said. 😅
Lmao That actually makes sense.
This man would not be called an "insurgent" because he's not part of an insurgency, you'd call him a terrorist because his tactics were calculated to horrify, disturb have maximum effect on the community.
I agree. Terrorism has existed since the beginning of time.
Try explaining that to terrorist-loving progressives
Terrorism is usually for political reasons though so I’m not sure terrorist is the best term for him either.
I love this story! My family were the earliest settlers of New Mexico, and Colorado. I didn't know this story. Thank you, for the history lesson.
This sounds like a perfect example for Casual Criminalist.
"The virgin Mary appeared in his dreams and told him to kill 600 Anglos".
If he was a devout catholic he would know that demons often appear as the virgin Mary, Angel's, and loved ones.
I was thinking this!!
Or even worse he was so devout that he believed it I'm not religious by any means but even I can see why someone might believe it just because that they might believe it so much that they're in this falsehood to the point where they're delusional
@@CazzyVR if he was that devout he would know murder is a sin and the virgin mary would never have asked him to sin.
@@nerdlingeeksly5192 if you were devout you would know that murder is not a sin in fact God commands his followers to kill people a lot he'll God flooded the entire Earth just hit the reset switch if you were a proper Catholic you would know that the only sin that cannot be forgiven is the sin of disbelief
@@nerdlingeeksly5192 fucked mental health plus religion can cause a terrifying and fascinating contradictory mix
I think a biography on Jack Hinson would be cool. He was the best sniper of the civil war and had a pretty good tale surrounding him.
Great story. A great grandfather of mine was Kit Carson's nephew and acquainted with Tobin. (Interviewed in Cragins "Early Far West Notebooks") . Undoubtedly Tom was not a person to be messed with. Btw reportedly Tom complained for years that the Army never paid him the full reward for killing the Espinosas. There is a story of one a person who got the better of Tobin. His son in-law William Carson. The eldest son of Kit Carson was married to Toms daughter Pasqualita. One night Tom and William were drinking heavily when Tom objected to Williams treatment of Pasqualita. The two got into a knock down fight and William ended up shooting Tom and hitting him in the head with a hammer. Tom survived and surprisingly the two remained friends afterwards. Tom was later noted as saying he'd never again get involved in a married couples' affairs. Sometime later William was killed in a freak accident. He was working a stable when the horse kicked a pitchfork which struck and discharged a pistol in his waistband. I read somewhere where Tobin's son Tom Tobin, Jr. was one of the first lawmen killed in the line of duty in Colorado. He was part in a party tracking an escaped prisoner. As evening fell one of the other lawmen mistook Tom Jr. as the convict and shot and killed him. The Penitentes are a interesting group and still existed in SE CO and NM into the 1900s and I think there are still some.
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Well done (as usual) also about someone I'd never heard of. Thanks Simon & all.
Also Jen is freaking carrying you Fact-Boy!
Interesting, this also be a Casual Criminalist subject.
Deeply religious, Espinosa no qualms about kidnapping, alleged rape, thievery, and lots and lots of murder.
You don’t have to worry when god forgives all sins 🤷♂️
@@bigwendigo2253 HA! "the ol'death bed plea for forgiveness"... FAMILY GUY did a great bit on that with Osama Bin Laden i think.
Not that different from the European immigrants when they came into the New World.
Keep in mind this is the Anglo version of the story you will find them as heros in local museums that still show their guns.
1:10 - Chapter 1 - Los hermanos penitentes(The penitent brothers)
4:15 - Chapter 2 - Calvario en san judas (Calvary in san judas)
6:50 - Mid roll ads
8:20 - Chapter 3 - Un banquete par los buitres (a feast for vultures)
11:40 - Chapter 4 - La muerte de un hermano (death of a brother)
14:00 - Chapter 5 - El fin se acerca (the end draws near)
16:25 - Chapter 6 - Bring me the head of felipe espinosa
Love that you’re doing the more obscure historical outlaws. But really should do your weapons research. They didn’t have AR-15’s or colt pythons in the frontier eta
Is this legit something that was said? The whole video won’t play for me, so I missed what you’re alleging.
@@Dank-gb6jn no just artwork he used when talking about the murders, being a historical firearm buff it just bothers me a little
@@TylerC5-1 ahhh okay. I too get irritated when stuff like that happens, being a collector of milsurps and just enjoying firearms culture and history in general. It also annoys me when Simon mentions “jail” when “prison” is the appropriate word and vice versa.
@@Dank-gb6jn I see what he means 9:03 the editor really should have found another clip to use
Do one on Tobin next please. He seems like a badass for sure.
And Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Ramirez.
Definitely!! Tom Tobin needs his own.
I've read quite a bit on Tom Tobin. He was a total Badass
@@duncancurtis1758 Eli Wallach would be a nice one. Tuco character immortalized him for sure.
This my family history, I've heard the stories but crazy to see a doc on it! This is definitely the Anglo version. Most Hispanics in the area considered them heros for defending our lands from Anglo settlers.
I got to stand on the porch where their heads were deposited after being cut off by bounty hunters in the 1800s in a town called San Luis, Colorado. The Espinoza brothers are famous in the San Luis valley of Colorado.
I worked on the Ft Garland site in 2012 and a fort six miles north of Ft G called Fort Massachusetts. Archaeologist get to study some awesome stuff!!! Even worked a suspected murder site where the guy was buried in a shallow grave. We did the initial first scientific analysis shortly after it was found! I love being an archaeologist!
As a matter of fact anyone can go to Fort Garland to this day and tour the original site. There are a few buildings from the original fort. You can see sleeping quarters and a few other spots. Just south of Ft. Garland is the General Store where the Espinoza killer's heads were placed in view of everybody. The complications that arose that led to the murders of white settlers came about because of broken promises of the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo of 1848. I highly recommended going to the site. As a veteran, it's absolutely amazing to stand where my predecessors once walked! And the census spoken of in the documentary that Simon did I have actually got to handle, it still exists! Awesome stuff 😎❤️😁
I too studied under Dr. Goddard. I went to the first field school at Ft. Mass!! Tobins grave is up on the hill at the old cemetery just west of Ft. Garland on the north side of the highway!
@@JackSparrow-xw7ls damn it's a small world lol G is amazing. Adams State University doesn't have a field school anymore, it's a digital field school. What that means, I have no clue.
See, this is the margin between hero and villain. Joaquin Murrieta did largely the same thing with some similar motivation and violence. But he's revered, he's a hero, he became Zorro and the goddamn Batman. This guy became just another serial killer for use in lists.
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That Espinoza was known form a young age as frighteningly violent and impulsive to his own community, that he raped women including that being his method of acquiring a wife, and his not having established an honest living from lots of hard work that was stolen from him in an instant...those are major differences from Joaquin Murrieta's story.
How in the heck did I grow up on Canon City and never heard of this guy?! Thank you for bringing great videos as always.
IKR? I'm in Taos, and never heard the story of Senor Espinosa. The town he started out in is only a few miles from my house, ( and still just as creepy in 2022.)
"Overshadowed by awesome"-might be the reason. During that time there were several outlaws who committed spectacular crimes that took the press by storm.
A serial killer and a western outlaw!?
This sounds like Fact Boy's dream video
You showed a picture of Tom Tobin. Tobin was the scout that killed the bloody Espinoza brothers.
Humbly requesting George Carlin. A comedian and satirist who oftentimes hit the nail more than just on the head; and whose bits were infinitely more than just satire. The guy was a comedian, satirist, begrudged philosopher, and even the narrative voice of Thomas the Train.
Never change
I 2nd the nomination(?) for George Carlin who became famous as a brilliant comedian but had so much more to say. Unlike a great deal of celebrities/people it was worth saying and so with listening to and understanding.
@@donpollock9126 I don’t plan to in some aspects. In others...I thing change is best.
Im also humble
Pretty sure we all know who George Carlin was
4:12 - The word you are looking for is "cavalry", not "CALvary". Calvary is a representation of Jesus's crucifixion; cavalry refers mounted soldiers.
Likely a miss-read the editor didn't catch ether
Thanks for all you do Simon you a LEGEND!
He killed so many people in that short a time? Damn!!
Tom Tobin was a master tracker, so it is not surprised he tracked them down so quickly.
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Excellent work young man your channels is all I watch
I've lived in Colorado my whole life and I've never heard this story.
This should be a movie
I was thinking the same thing.
I feel some nostalgic memory of a 90s documentary on this
I would love an episode on Tom Tobin!
Amazingly entertaining and engaging story. Absolutely love this.
If Espinosa were an American sniper, he'd be a hero.
Love your stories! I can particularly picture the scenery in this one, as I have climbed around 30 peaks in the San Jauns. I would argue, one of the most beautiful places on the planet is Yankee boy Basin in the San Jauns.
I know not everyone is a believer. I just wanted to say that the blessed mother would never demand blood of innocent people. It is just a way to deflect from what he did.
The Whistler knows how to tell a good history about the Wild West.
Biographics is THE BOMB, that you for the video.
Do one on Nader Shah, the “Persian Napoleon”
Those us marshals were basically clone troopers, not one out the 10 hit their shot? These guys are soliders
How about the Harpe Brothers. A pair of charmers for sure.
if you see this: thank you, your channels are amazing. if interested in requests, I'd suggest Huey Percy Newton
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I want a movie of this.
I grew up in Rio Arriba County! I almost asked why I'm not familiar with this xase,case, the answer is probably that the brain injury has jumbled everything that I know or have experienced. Hopefully I'll remember it over the next 19 minutes or so. How exciting!
14:56 LOL You said 1863 but i see a small typo. you good Simon keep up the good work
This was awesome! I live in Taos New Mexico & never EVER heard this story. Thanks for filling me in on a bit of history from my backyard, from across The Pond! 😆
Love your videos. Educational & interesting.
Ah, yes, more weird and dangerous stuff we here in The Valley are known for.
You should do a biographic of Philip K Dick. I'm astounded that one doesn't exist already.
Self Flatulation? I just drink a bottle of Pepsi (tm) and then follow it with a glass of milk. That gives me enough gas to ride my roller skates uphill to the Pike's Peak Senior Center at the end of my day selling weed to tired travelers in the valley below. Sonic got nothin' on me, dude.
“The whole expedition had been a disaster. The two bandit brothers had disappeared into the San Juan mountains, the Marshall had a broken leg, the Lieutenant had almost shot himself in the brain, and, sadly, a Corporal had been killed in the hail of gunfire” would be a rad clip to excerpt as a sound bite for the intro to a punk song
Tobin sounds like a badass
I thought yt auto played another Cas Crim as I was just listening to one and the intro sounded so criminal-y!
That really threw me off showing the guy aiming an AR-15 in a video about the old west.
My Family is from that area of New Mexico/Colorado. The Pretty sure his last word was not "bruto". Nobody in that area would use that word. Pretty sure his last word was "Puto". Which would basically calling his killer a "F@***t". It's a common Hispanic insult in the region.
@14:55.."In autumn 1863" etc. caption needs correcting (1963). Always enjoy your commentary Simon, especially when you start laughing at the crazy antics of various serial killers. Regards.
The Espinosa's had AR15s with optics? ...nice🤣😂🤣
Please do one about William of Orange
I wanna hear more about Tobin
Why are you showing a modern rifle invented in the 1950s in a biopic about serial killers in 1863? And that's a Colt Python from the 20th Century, not a Colt Navy.
I was thinking the law was outgunned if Espinosa had an AR in 1860
They're brittish so guns are hard for them
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It's spelt wrong it's Felipe Espinosa
Spelled, genius. Nobody is going to take spelling lessons from someone that can't spell.
@@kcbh24 I'm english not a yank! that's our way of saying it
Thn'x a lot for this content 🇹🇳❤️❤️
Another banger Simon 👌🏼
Talk about taking no prisoners. Mr. Tobin was not one to mess around.
They're really more spree killers rather than serial killers.
Interesting how there's two different versions/perspectives on this story. On the "hispano" version, Felipe is described as killing Americans due to his family being murdered during the Mexican American War as well as being wrongfully imprisoned. On the anglo version, he is a killer, rapist, and kidnapper who was apparently inspired by the Virgin Mary since he was super religious... You don't even have to be a devout Christian to know that murder is a sin... I'm pretth sure that was a lie written by some protestant American to demonize Catholics. The virgin mary would never advocate for murder.
There was alot of anti Mexican sentiment in the newly annexed areas. History is written by the victors.
He was mad because THEY TOOK HIS JERRRRB
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God bless that minister who saved Mr. Foster.
Need an episode on American Hero Thomas Tate Tobin!!!!
That's Wild!! I live 30 minutes away from El Rito and never had even heard about this guy! Tiny Mountain town, can drive in and through in about less than 5 minutes.
Great campfire story here.
They penitentes are still a thing here in New Mexico
@Biographics Thank you for such an interesting biography! Arnaldo Teodorani, you hit this one out of the park. Loved it. Best to you all!
Thanks Lois, much appreciated!🙏🏻
Could we get a video on Sergio Gutiérrez Benítez, or as he was know on the streets Fray Tormenta!
I keep subscribing to your channels. So well done. Thank you, for giving us something good to watch on youtube.
Damn, your editor really needs to look up period correct weapons for visuals! An AR15 in the Wild West in the 1860's? LOL , that revolver is very modern too.
Sometimes people suck.
Now we need a full video on Thomas Tate Tobin. Please!
The two bandit brothers had disappeared into the mountains, the marshall had broken his leg and the lieutenant had almost shot himself in the brain 😂 yea that sounds like a disaster operation
This ain’t the Casual Criminalist!
14:55 written as 1963 lol
What up everyone, Great vid
Can we please get a video on Alexander II of Russia?
nah the firstt serial killer of the wild west was artthur morgen
Tobin, what a badass
Wouldn’t they be psychologically classified as spree killers not serial killers?
Im directly related to Tom Tobin, my great grandfather gave a museum in Cody Wyoming his rifles and other things that he wanted protected from family greed
But it's funny this guy gets labeled a serial killer, while Anglo and other European men who did worse (for country and Homeland) gets labeled heroes, but that doesn't surprise me.
The visual image of someone aiming an AR-15 was a little confusing for a story from the American West of the 1860’s.
Just gonna leave my two cents on the subtle ps1 loading screen wipe there before the ad break. Good stuff indeed lol 😆 👌
How is this not a movie yet?!
Used to live in Fairplay and my girlfriend at the time worked at a bar in Alma. Never heard this story, but truly intrigued.
Thomas Tate Tobin sounds badass
I wanna hear more about Tobin!
He's a badass!
You got a time traveler...that guy aiming the M16
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Good video 👍
So dad was so scared of the dude that he told his daughter to marry the guy? Dad... Mess him up. Take a few kneecaps. Do something.