H. H. Holmes: America's First Serial Killer
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I like the video's but take out the bell it is distracting if not irritating.
richard hammond
Simon, why do have to use such extremely loud sound-effects compared to your narration?
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I love how nonchalant they were about the guy bringing home a dead baby to dissect and letting it rot in his room. They're like "Alright, we'll let it slide this time, but no more bringing dead babies home. Ok?"
I saw this comment at the same time as that part of the story and burst out laughing, as morbid as it is.
That's strike one, 3 strikes your out buddy.
I just wanna know where he got the baby. Aren't dissected bodies usually criminals or donors?
drosera88 white privileged est. 1776
😂😂😂
It's crazy how they didn't kick him out. And where did he get the baby????
*Finds dead baby under bed*
"Yeah don't do that again or we're gonna have to evict you"
"Didn't you read the tenancy agreement?"
"No pets or dead babies"
@@Nickersons-Theme well maybe one dead baby but definitely no pets
I guess dead babies were a normal Tuesday
I mean, a facility teaching medicine in the XIX th century ?
Yeah, a dead baby used for dissection by one of the students doesn't seem that crazy compared to what they'd probably see over the years
@@Nickersons-Theme this is how the strange clauses in rental contracts originate.
Good god it used to be easy to get away with murder
Cryo Phobica true right?
I always think about that,you could kill someone in the streets and you didn't have to be afraid of some camera filming you
Or prints
All of you frighten me.
Riverdeepnwide you should be scared haha hahha just kidding
Joshei I figure you guys would get tired of the mayhem before reaching me.
One can hope at least.
Cheers 🍻
You ever heard someone say something like “yeah he’s dark inside he’ll kill one day” and the person just lives a boring life and never does anything of the sort?
Yeah all the time
Come to think of it, you never hear about any non-criminals on crime shows. Coincidence? I think not!
Sometimes they’re murdered before they get someone else
Or they never got caught 🤷🏽
Yes
That animated portrait freaked me out, while showing the building.
RZ bu
I thought I was the only one who noticed! I thought I was going crazy!
Reminded me of the Harry Potter moving photographs.
I like to shite my pants.
Right? I watched again to make sure my eyes weren't playing tricks
1:05 - Chapter 1 - Early life
3:25 - Chapter 2 - Medical school
6:00 - Chapter 3 - Career
10:05 - Chapter 4 - First murders
12:20 - Chapter 5 - Serial killer
13:55 - Chapter 6 - Texas
15:25 - Chapter 7 - Downfall
16:45 - Chapter 8 - Manhunt & death
Thanks!
@@WafflesGud For what? Who watches these videos by chapter? lmao
@@biggrocc19 if you actually click on it , the video will resume to whatever length you choose
Thank you for the timestamps
Hats off 🎩
what makes Holmes story so interesting is that he murdered out of pure greed. He wanted to take people for all they were worth and would take down anyone who got in his way of getting what he wanted. He in some ways is the worst kind of murderer, the greedy, no good confidence murderer, not only to take their life, but their future too. He truely only cared about himself and his own ability to take people for whatever they were worth, even if it it also meant their life.
The term for this fellow would likely be "sociopath."
I feel like any kind of murderer is the worst kind of murderer.
@@1958Shemp Pscyhopath is more likely
A parasitic psychopathic monster. He loved to kill. A reptilian.
@@rayclermont1350 lol facts
Boy, this would make a fine Tim Burton, Johnny Depp movie.
Actually based on the book Devil in the White City...i heard Leonardo DiCaprio is in works for the role.. even better
Yees and Martin Scorsese to direct
yeah and triple h can play h h holmes
@@ad8554 Christoph Waltz would be a better choice, he looks like Holmes, all he needs is the stache
@@darthandeddeu Leo owns the rights to the book. So it is his call.
He was hung at a prison around the corner from where I live. The prison is no longer standing but there were still walls when I was a child in the 60s.
Constance Dulisse +Wouldn’t that have been Moyamensing Prison?
It's an ACME Market now.
Just a grammar point
Grammar police say that living creatures- people, animals - get “hanged” while items like pictures get “hung”.
That's cool, my mom's house is is literally like a 5 minute drive from his old house in Gilmanton. People still live there which is interesting.
Okay, but just don't bring any more dead bodies into the house. XD
That made me laugh too lol. Ahh the innocent age when serial killers were asked so little of themselves :D
the music sounds like Harry Potter
@nooboftheforest, I know this comment is a tad bit late but is your avatar of that one Chinese gangster from “TinTin and the Blue Lotus”?
nooboftheforest yep I keep thinking it’s a Harry Potter ad whenever there is a transition
@@aymarafan7669 bruh that dude is Japanese who ran the opium trade in china
@Ceekaj Oh you are quite right it’s Mr. Mitsu Horato, completely forgot about that!
@@aymarafan7669 I am just glad that someone else noticed it was from tintin. Gives me hope in humanity.
This guy is like British vsauce 😍
Or is he....
*que music*,
@@KingpinCarlito Dun-dun-dun...
tree person and a smarter version
I thought vsauce started smoking meth and we got this guy
Vsauce + A more normal Johnny Sins + English accent
I could do without all of the pings.
You are the second person to comment about that.
Sounds just like my phone text tone , I usually listen while I work kept checking my phone and no messages lol. Different sound maybe? Pretty generic message tone
At first I thought it was my brother sending wackadoodle political texts again, lol.
I thought I was watching CinemaSins for a bit. I really enjoy your content on this channel as well as your others. However, I also don't like the dings much either. I found it distracting, mainly because I kept focusing on what gets a ding and why (is it only for datetimes? ...or is it for more general important facts/bullet points/etc.?).
It's the same on visual politik en, record scratching sounds and audio levels all over the place :) Do you have different people doing sound on tifo ?
If you were interested in this, I highly recommend the novel "The Devil in the White City" by Erik Larson. One of my favorite books.
One of my favorites, too, plus there is so much great info about the Chicago World’s Fair. Tom Cruise bought the movie rights a decade ago and I’m tired of waiting for the movie!
I loved both stories that the book covers, the story of Holmes and the story of the World's Fair.
i'm reading that right now! such a good book
@@conniecrawford5231 Not Tom Cruise, Leonardo DiCaprio
Actually, Harold Schechter's book about Holmes is a lot more detailed and better written.
2:49 DAMN, Herbert's mom just completely roasted him 😂
Me: Trying to sleep...
TH-cam at 3:00 AM:
"Let me introduce you to the first serial killer ever."
You do know that there is a whole wide world outside the US tho, right?
@@thatgirlinautumn5995 You can pretend there is, but the wider world is fascinated with America and their pop culture.
That Girl In Autumn WHAT? Who would’ve thought?
@@billshears6062 I know!!
@@frankwest9304 Sooo just because the British royals are the most well-known at the moment, it's now right for me to assume they're also the first ever monarchy??
Just don't say "ever" or "world" when you mean "in the US, sometime after Columbus". It's that easy, I thought English was you guys' native language?
The original Triple H
I only clicked on this video to find this comment
😂😂😂👌
Yess, the Cerebral Assassin!
I like how he got caught with a body under his bed and they're just like "hey, don't do that."
Hang on, he was born in 1861, was married in 1878, went to university in 1882, went home in 1884 and then skipped town on a swindled ticket in 1866? That would make him five years old! I think you have your date stamps wrong.
E.S. Holten was Elizabeth Holten. She was the Doctor who owned the pharmacy , not her husband. They lived a long life after they sold the drugstore to Holmes and resided the entire time in Englewood.
Didnt he say that
Uh yeah bro… he already said that in the video. Why are you trying to sound more informed than anybody else that just learned that? 😂 that what gets you off?
0:28 his picture blinking startled me
Irradiated The picture was moving like it was animated... wtf
Surely someone has noticed Holmes gets in his time machine and travels from 1882 back to 1866 at one point. I love your work, however, computers rarely make a good backdrop - for anything. I appreciate your trying to mix it up - as opposed to standing in front of your green screen - ala TIFO and TTN. But might I suggest an overstuffed chair, pipe and a dusty reference tome? Keep up the good work!
Matt Knight I concur.
Thought I was the only one that noticed
Yeah, I noticed it said 1866... so he graduated medical school, wooed several women, and left New York for Chicago by the time he was 5 years old?
Matt Knight yeah, makes me wonder about the validity of other facts...
@@catharinabester1452 so many of his videos contain "fact" that are straight up BS
Lack of research or care i dont know seems like the research for money has became the primary research this chanel does
I love these Bio Graphics. I LOVE history, and you present them wonderfully. Thank you!
Title: "America's first Serial Killer"
Thumbnail: "Worlds first Serial Killer"
Me: CONFUSION.
Edmqnd I noticed that, too
Americans tend to forget that there's more to the world than just them. :D
The funniest part is that he is neither the world’s nor America’s first serial killer.
The fact that he had 'Holmes' in his name, the irony cracked me up.
Did anyone else notice him blinking at 0:28?
yeah i almost didn't notice it
Yup
I thought I was going mad
Yes?
He was nodding too...
The background music reminds me of Harry Potter but I get that with most British narrators 🤷🏼♂️😂
Ikr
2022 they made this a game called "the devil in me" I never knew this was a real person
Subbing. But the transitions between segments need to be less intrusive. The music currently too loud and long in the style of 1990's cheap tv shows breaking for commercials. And the sound effects are not consistent with the program's theme. Try shimmer stings with vignetting a corner of the screen with smokey black under readable white title lettering? A few tweaks and you've got another hit! Good luck.
Well he’s got more subscribers then you so maybe you shouldn’t try to give him any advice your next move should be to ask him for advice since you have four and he has hundreds of thousands
@@sebastianisrael7348 Judging by the fact he has liked her comment, and the fact that all her suggestions are pretty much right on the money, delivered in a constructive manner I'd say she's just fine making that comment.
Sebastian Israel congratulations. You’ve played yourself.
Why not? She's being polite and giving feedback while also complimenting how good his videos already are. Besides, he liked the comment, so I think he appreciated it:) anyone looking to improve should be able to accept feedback like he does.
Adam W I’d say the fact that her opinion was unsolicited and kinda seemed condescending at the end, it was not needed. I’m sure he “liked” her comment to be polite. I agree with the guy that said he doesn’t need her input.
I agree...no pings please. You are a very good presenter and I enjoy all your videos and channels.
Weezer VanTrout what pings lmao
Jaysus, a lot of hypersensitive people watching this; a little ping here and there triggers them. How do these people get by in the real world?
mel obrien why are you so hypersensitive about a couple people politely saying they’d prefer it if there weren’t any pings? how do you get by in the real world?
I keep hearing references to "young women" or "beautiful women", only to be confronted by pictures of small, ugly boys.
Wut
@@folbykleetwood7462 what don't you get, ashton
@@christfigure 🤷♂️
@@christfigure apparently ugly boys. he's not getting the women
@@lestatangel lmao
Seriously your bios are the best. So much more informative than any others I've seen.
I seem to have like 10 useful hours a day in me, simon has like 68 hours per day...
Don't be too depressed, Simon has lots of supporting people writing, editing, producing and marketing. But, he is the hardest working person I know. - Shell
The last statement made about heroizing (lionizing) criminals made me wonder why some folks idolize criminals without any apparent awareness that these were bad people. I would guess that the admirers also have a weak connection with social values and are demonstrating that. Any other ideas?
James Jacocks They don't take into consideration the sorrow of the victims, only thing they care about is the lore, glad you pointed it out, such people sicken me to no avail.
Good comment. I've been fascinated by Holmes' story for decades. Recently, I've been following organized crime. I have to check myself to remember that we're dealing with murderers and willful perpetrators of violence.
The Age of Desensitization? The Space Age began a few days before I was born and I have lived through assassinations, wars, civil unrest, media sensationalizing criminal conduct, multiple gunshots heard at night, little children hit by stray bullets, gang activity, drug dealing, societal decay, and a government and institutions that seem complicit in the downfall of our way of life. And maybe our way of life wasn't so good to begin with.
I'm not making excuses. We all know right from wrong. Maybe many of us are just fascinated by those with the "grit" to disregard the dictates of right conduct and go whole-hog in doing wrong.
@@cedricgist7614Spencer, that was an insightful piece of cultural history! I predate you by twenty years and sometimes I delude myself thinking I know something having seen and in a manner of speaking witnessing everything since the Korean War (and through W. Cronkite back before the Wars). Of course I don't, not really, and am beholden to the efforts of others for most of the insights of my life. IOW, I am still reading. Best!
The original Triple H.
11:12 the picture on the left isn’t Julia Conner, it’s actually Nellie Pitezel, who was one of the children Holmes murdered in 1894.
Awesome! A new Simon channel! You're by far my favorite TH-cam host.
Top five!
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Muna Padhy are you dumb? Quickly delete that comment! Never share personal details on line! Idiot.
I thought I knew a little, I now know I knew very little. Thank you Simon and crew for learning me but good! lol
First and foremost, I love this channel. Your coverage of the many serial murderers is excellent. I have degrees in both criminal justice and criminal psychology. I am almost finished with my masters in criminal psychology. I have shared this channel with my class numerous times and it never fails to enlighten, thank you!
I do take on issue that has been repeatedly on your channel that I feel it necessary to address. You have said in several of your videos on serial killers that they were in love...not likely my friend. I know this is a common term but I would implore you to avoid this mistake. These killers are infatuated and likely enjoy or love what they can get out of the other person. They don't love so much as use to their advantage.
At any rate, this is but a small complaint. I have always enjoyed your coverage as it is very well done and informative.
"I was born with THE DEVIL IN ME"
I think this channel can be very successful. I very much disliked the dramatic and too loud music as well as the flashing dates and titles. A little bit of that would go a very long way. Still, a great idea for your new channel.
This was a concern we had. Tanks for weighing in. -Shell
I like the music actually, but volume needs to be fixed. Send like that is a problem on the start of a lot of new channels Simon makes great
Enjoyed the show! Simon, as always, great job! Love the comments you occasionally pepper in.Much success in this venture!
It's all about the Game and how you Play it HHH
Love listening to your voice. So happy you created this channel. I listen to you while I work.
As soon as I saw that you had a new channel, I did not hesitate to sub and please do one on the most dangerous gang today
Do a video on Julius Caesar or someone ancient!
Check out the channel Historia Civilis
Caligula!
Jake Tinley Do Gilgamesh!
There’s nothing in Gilmanton NH in 2020, still a lot of dirt roads. I can only imagine what it was like in the 1800s
The Inspiration for James Patrick March wasnt he? The AHS Hotel Villian
Sam Aspden Yup
Love your videos! The dinging when you put up a quote or name is a little too loud though, compared to your voice. Thanks for the videos!
It's gone in future videos.
Excellent job on H.H. Holmes! Very well done! Thank you for keeping it real and not falling for the sensationalized version.
Like a few others have said, please turn down the transition music... very overpowering. Thank you.
Shutup
Those dings after 1:05+ had me thinking I had accidentally selected a Cinema Sins video
reformedfruit I kept looking at my microwave wondering why it was dinging.
Somehow it's hilarious to me that his real surname was 'Mudgett'. It sounds more like the name for a pet cat than for a dangerous serial killer
Loving the new channel! My only gripe would be the volume stuff others have commented on.
Well done Simon. This is the 4th channel I follow you on and again I’m not disappointed . I do believe you are trying to take over You Tube, one channel at a time. At least your videos are interesting due to your penchant for facts and lots of them and for having a great narrative voice... don’t worry I’m not a groupie or a stalker, just a fan. Not much for free time, I would guess. Keep it up, I’ll continue following.
Man the ping sound effect has got to go
We don’t use it on newer videos.
watching these type of videos throughout the years i’ve learned that the word “beautiful” gets thrown around a lot 🌚
America's first serial killer was the Servant Girl Annihilator in Austin, Texas. Dec 30, 1884 - Dec 24, 1885. -- three years before Jack the Ripper, and seven years before HH Holmes. Like Jack the Ripper, the Servant Girl Annihilator was never caught.
TimeLady8 technically it was the harpe brothers in the 1790s who were America’s first serial killers. There were also the bloody benders in the 1870s.
@@Caesar2k1 I live not far from where the Benders lived when they murdered people. There's a historical marker near the site, and a local hill is called "Benders' mound."
People don't literally mean that he was the first serial killer that the country ever had, they mean he was the first well-known serial killer.
Sherlock must have been pissed
"She couldn't have done much worse and will probably have to support you." - HH Holmes's Mother
When even your own mother knows you won't amount to anything good, ouch.
Just wanted to let you know that I bumped into your channel about 2 days ago and i am having a blast. Maybe one of my fav channels in recent memory. Thank you for the content and keep it up :)
I like the new channel! I do however wish you had the same kind of microphone that you use for toptenznet the audio quality on those videos sounds marginally better. Either way can't wait to see your new videos every week.
We will take this feedback into consideration. Thanks.
Excellent as always, thank Simon.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
I agree that the video could do without the pings and the overly loud "background" music. However, I wanted to say that I really enjoyed the content of this video. It wasn't a rehashing of other videos on H.H. Holmes. Biographics provided content that I had not seen or heard on him before. Good job!
I totally freaked when his picture blinked. Thought I was going crazy lol
Nothing about him being one of the suspects for being Jack the Ripper?
It's not worth mentioning because it's rubbish.
He was never a serious suspect for it. He was never in England during the time of the Jack the Ripper killings and by the time he was caught he admitted to 27 murders, which was likely extremely exaggerated. Given that he admitted to multiple murders he didn't commit, if he was Jack the Ripper, he definitely would've said so.
I suggest you watch the American Ripper! It's where H.H.Holmes' great-great grandson believes his grandfather could have been Jack the Ripper, goes through evidence that could suggest H.H.Homles' could have been in England at the time of the Ripper killings! They go through A lot more evidence that could suggest H.H.Homles' could have been Jack the Ripper! Fascinating doco series!
holmes: bury me under 10 feet of concrete so people don't steal my body and look through my guts
everyone else: ..... you're the only one that does that......
Hold on☝️ For all those ok/Goooood suggestions for the movie...Here YOU GO! The absolute best film entanglement of creativity and reality.
1. Johnny Depp H.H Holmes
2. Female Interest Noomy or Theron
At last🤯
DIRECTED by: Ridley Scott or Mel.
That's it! Voilaaaaa
Me : “ I hate history (learning about it)”
Also me : “✨:OOO TRUE CRIME :D”
I've subscribed to this *new* channel. I'm really looking forward to the content narrated by Simon, of course.
Thanks :)
1:20 They do look like loving parents....
How many hours are in your day?!? Nice new channel!
I love Simon! His voice is soothing but yet captivating! I love him!
Please don’t do the ding noise anymore.
Yep yep, we're working on the format. It's always a work in progress, and apparently people don't like the dings ;).
Biographics I like how everyone just ignores the fact that you’ve already said that like a million times🤣
@@Biographics Leave the pings in; anyone who's upset enough to comment on these pings is a bit of a Snowflake. Pathetic.
@@melvynobrien6193 although we’re 3 years too late to this comment, I agree haha. I didn’t even realise there was a ping until I read the comments.
Great video! I do have some constructive criticism though. The pings don't really seem to fit the atmosphere of the video, maybe try another sound or leave them out entirely and just have the words appear animated on the screen. Also, whenever the music gets louder it gets a little too loud, I like it but maybe try to make the transition a little bit more subtle.
Anyway, great video otherwise Simon! The channel is new so I'm sure there is a lot of room to grow still!
I'd love to see a bio of one of my favorite celebrities that you may not have thought or heard of before, Amy Lee (lead singer of Evanescence) and Elijah Wood (played Frodo on LOTR)
I believe the pings will be removed from future videos. This has been a steady criticism. Thank you.
Can you also increase the volume a little bit as well, its really quiet compared to your other videos.
This is irrelevant criticism
@@Biographics Goddamn Snowflakes, obsessed with pings; they must all have ADD. Good video, but you didn't mention the Megan Markle connection.
when you share your birthday expect the year with HH Holmes hahah 😳😳😳😨😨😨😨😨
How ironic that both of his parents ( especially his mother ) looked monstrous yet he looked like a very handsome young gentleman.
“Never bring dead babies back here again! I’ll let you off with a warning this time!” What..?
You should see the video on Tararre.
I'm reading "the devil in the white city" pretty damn captivating so far. It could use some pings though.
I like the pings. PING went the strings of my heart.
0:28 I thought I was literally tripping for a second when I saw the photo of H. H. Holmes moving like something out of Harry Potter😂
Another note. As for what Holmes actually did with the remains of his victims, he would strip the bodies of their flesh down to the bone, articulate the skeletons, and sell the skeletons to local physicians and medical schools. For context, during the years Holmes was active, it was illegal to use cadavers for medical purposes. The problem was that student doctors needed bodies to practice all the new procedures they were learning. So, in addition to using the remains of convicted criminals, medical students would raid paupers graves at cemeteries in the middle of the night.
If you want a more detailed version of this story, I highly recommend the H.H. Holmes episodes that Last Podcast on the Left did.
I heard they did this in England too. Lot of grave robbing going on for medical students.
I just about laid an egg when Holmes blinked at me, ffs good job I haven't got a ducky heart
I love all the channels you present on, Simon luv, but it's not statistically possible for Holmes to be the first serial killer in the US. The most inventive, maybe, but there's no way the country existed for over a century with no serial killers.
True, but he isn't the one who started it. H.H. Holmes is often called that and is just the first person caught that we have record of who meets the idea people have of a serial killer. The bloody benders started their killing in 1870s, but they were never caught. The bodies were found. It was pretty lawless in a lot of parts, so it was easy to not get caught. Killing lots of people in duels or shoot outs doesn't count.
I'm wrong. The Harpe brothers are considered to be the first serial killers in the U.S. They started their killing spree in the 1790s but killed a lot of people fighting for the British in the Revolution. They were a part of a rape gang during the war and killed a lot of colonists. They were Scottish immigrants not English. They admitted to killing 39 people, but it is suspected that the number exceeds 60. They killed a lot of infants too because their crying annoyed them. Lots of them were their own children born to the two wives they held prisoner and raped. They were messed up.
He wasn't the first, he was the biggest.
@@melvynobrien6193 He wasn't that either. He was arguably the most creative and certainly put the most time, effort and money into it.
He was not the "the world's first serial killer". There were many serial killers before him. Liu Pengli, for example.
I have checked via Google and Wikipedia. The 1866 date quoted at 6.44 of this video that makes no sense in the timeline should be 1886 !
Thank you for a very well done video.
if i was having a nice convo with a guy and just some other random guy came and threatened the guy i was talking to just cause he was talking to me wouldn't make me attracted to him it would make me want to run away from him cause to me that seems controlling and a couple other bad traits i wouldnt want in a BF
Yeah, but you don't live in 1878. Back then, the traits that a woman would look for in a potential husband are very different than what they are today, because the role of the woman in the marriage was much different.
You’re very ugly though so you never have to worry about a man willing to fight for you.
+David L. We can't judge your own looks but your comment betrays an inner ugliness.
THIS NEEDS TO BE A CASUAL CRIMINALIST EPISODE!!!
7:06 "It's not a Nod to Sherlock Holmes-" Sherlock: *Oh, thank god.*
I sub to all 3 of your channel, Simon. TTN, TIFO & now Bio. You're a wonderful host. I really like you & how you present. Don't know how you do it. Is it 2x a week or 2x a day? You said both, lol. Keep on teaching us with your well researched accurate videos.
"Authorities from a number of *states*, including Philadelphia..."
Philadelphia is a city not a state.
Pretty sure he knows that, just a mistake. We're all human
OK, what he meant was "Authorities from a number of states and the city of Philadelphia."
This guy and his editor is a fuckin mess ay.
Hello Simon! I really enjoy watching biographies often people I knew little orange nothing about. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I was wondering if you could do a biography of Truman Capote?
I think he had a very fascinating life.
Thanking you in advance.
has there been any word on a possible Scorsese movie staring Leonardo DiCaprio as Holmes? It sounds like it would be a kind of darker "catch me if you can" sort of movie
The video is amazing, but the audio's a bit .. jumpy
could you maybe try to dim down the audio of the 'whoops' and 'bings'?
Message has been received.
Shutup
the overuse of that Bell is unbearable...
seriously, these serial killer videos are amazing
The hell was his dad trying to teach him not to breath lol
Just subscribed! Could you do a bio on Terry Fox?
Psychopaths are always good with women
Certainly seems that way.
Many supposedly have a superficial charm.
Too many women mistake being dominating and violent for masculinity.
NothingButTheTruth ummmm.... not really!
NothingButTheTruth actually it’s more like thinking that you deserve all of the abuse, and that it’s not a big deal. We don’t mistake it for masculinity
Rest In Peace to those that passed away.