The Shadow Man var escaped the makuta controlled ttv channel and crash landed on ttv product showcase, where he will soon grow to be powerful enough to fight the powerful makuta
The idea behind Ahkmou always really disturbed me. He's a simple Po-matoran who decided to turn on his own countrymen and knowingly sells them items that inflicts madness and eventual death. That a seemingly harmless matoran could perform such awful deeds is much scarier than anything the Makuta could ever do.
+Andy well the story showed that a simple matoran could go as far as to kill some of the most powerful beings of the universe by being a great being in disguise...also that explains why great beings are on the list
Makuta Teridax is definitely the villain to end all villains. His personality just fits for someone like him. His very design gives off a sheer sense of fear and dread. He's one of the most powerful villains I've seen in any media and that's without mentioning his genius intellect. Overall he's only truly lost once in the series and that's after he succeeds in becoming a god. Every other loss before this was just a minor setback or part of his plan.
He literally took over the universe. He BECAME the universe. The Great Beings did everything on accident. Then we have Marendar and Velika being built up as even worse than Makuta AAAAAAAAND the story ends
Teridax could have been higher on the list had the "tragic hero" from MoL stayed for the rest of the saga. Conquest is so cliche, but a madman who believes he's protecting his bother? That is very rarely seen.
I'd prefer if he continuously used that excuse to manipulate others and make himself seem tragic, and then by the time he's taken over the universe most people realize he's just straight-up evil. And even then he could use it to manipulate a decent amount of beings to side with him against Mata Nui.
William Lambert Well, I suppose it really depends on what you qualify as a villain. The great beings were really kind of just scientists messing with powers that could and were employed for evil. That's where I personally don't exactly agree with this list. It's kind of like calling the scientists who discovered nuclear fission villains; they were just discovering things about our universe that we didn't understand previously, those things just happened to lead to the human ability to destroy our world with the press of a button.
I lolled at number 1. Honestly Velika in particular deserves a mention on number 1 spot. Lets be clear what if Velika is responsible for all of what happened? For all we know he could've influenced Teridax to go on conquest for power. Don't forget he gave all MU inhabitants more advanced artificial intelligence.
I would include Tuma personally. While he was indeed evil, he was a tragic villain, burdened with the responsibility of leading his entire species and forced to make desperate choices. He deserved more than his brief growly appearance in The Legend Reborn.
General thoughts/responses: 1. Vezon is overrated. 2. Brutaka's spends much more time in the story as a redeemed hero than he does as a villain. I wouldn't put Vakama on this list, even though he technically goes through the same arc as well. If we had met Brutaka before 2006, he wouldn't even be in this discussion. tl;dr it's just a phase 3. We had a huge argument about the Barraki vs the Piraka. I wish we had recorded that. Personally, I feel like the Barraki were underutilized and less memorable than the Piraka. What could have been Game of Thrones Under The Sea was really the same villain spread over a bunch of people. The Piraka kind of are too, but I felt that they were more striking and iconic. It was a huge debate, though. You should have been there. 4. The Great Beings were more interested in their own pursuits than caring about the people around them. Their experiments led to the Core War, the Shattering, and very nearly unleashed a power hungry meglomaniac in a giant robot body to wreak havoc on the universe. If Mata Nui had been killed by Makuta, you can be pretty sure he wouldn't have stopped there. Their selfish mistakes had huge ramifications that they kept making worse, and that's the making of any villain if you ask me. 5. Vezon is overrated. This was just my opinion, though. Subjective lists based on taste, yay, etc. - Kahi
thethreevirtues But Roodaka at sixth place? Lower than Karzahni? True, he had better backstory and more "omnious" aura, but he didn't really cause much trouble for Toa or Order of Mata Nui. Roodaka was a major player for a long time, plus she mastered not only arts of leadership and deception, but also her own sipirt with development of limited shadow powers. She should've been #3 at least.
thethreevirtues why is vezon overrated ? i mean i would have given him place 10 since he did take the mask of life buuut....yea he basiclly is a skakdi version of deadpool....without the regenerative abillety ofcourse.....
I don't think the Great Beings are villains: they just were poor leaders and made great mistakes, especially create the Element Lords But, well... 10.- Metus 9.- Ahkmou 8.- Sidorak 7.- Annonna 6.- Tuyet 5.- Dark Hunters 4.- The Barraki 3.- Zaktan 2.- Roodaka 1.- Teridax
I wouldn't exactly say that the Great Beings are "evil". True, they have a track-record of screwing things up, but it wasn't like they wanted Spherus Magna to end. And while they never intended to give sentience to the MU inhabitants, Angonce did try to prevent Marendar (who was designed to destroy Toa) from escaping its cell, which would've saved the lives of any Toa still living. Even Velika, the most "evil" of the bunch, isn't totally a bad person per say. He's not prideful like Teridax, or nutty like Tuyet. He just wants order, as much as anyone. The only problem, though, is that he believes that force is the only way to bring peace. The Great Beings are just a bunch of dudes addicted to creation and experimentation.
At 5:33, I think you might have gotten mixed up with Makuta and Mata-Nui's names there. '...in his plan to upseat Makuta as the true Great Spirit.' But other than that... interesting video. I largely agree with the placement choices, though I do wonder why all six Piraka made the list, as opposed to just Zaktan. He really stood out to me amongst all the others. Really would like to see more Top Tens, I like these videos from you guys.
You probably should have singled out "Velika" among the Great Beings as he was responsible for the sapience of Teridax in order to orchestrate an even bigger plan to rule over Spherus Magna, all while under the innocent guise of the matoran. 10. Metus-betrayed the agori and unlike Ahkmou wasn't really sus 9. Annona-dream stealing and all that 8. Energized Protodermis-worked with the Makuta and may have been responsible for the shattering, extremely enigmatic so it is low on the list. 7. The Piraka-Dynamic gang with somewhat unique personalities as well as a menacing appearance, not very successful though and ended up becoming the Skakdi Fusion 6. The Barraki-extremely successful before and were indirectly responsible for Teridax's takeover due to giving him the idea as well as the fact that after the reformation of Spherus Magna they most likely conquered it along with the Dark Hunters 5. The Dark Hunters(specifically the Shadowed One)-cool concept, in it for money alone, not motivated by some implausible evil scheme but just by profit. They aren't higher due to the fact that their more amoral than evil. 4. Roodaka-extremely kniving, so much so that her name is actually matoran slang for treachery 3. The Makuta(specifically Teridax), successfully took over the universe and ruled it for awhile. 2. The Great Beings, neglectful and evil towards their creations, caused the shattering out of their own greed, enslaved the agori and glatorian populations and performed cruel experiments on living subjects as if they were merely objects. 1. Velika(rogue from the great beings), indirectly caused all the MU based villains and orchestrated a yet unknown master plan to rule Spherus Magna all under the guise of an innocent matoran(Metus x20)
This is probably exactly my list, except replace metus with krika and move him a little higher up. I like krika a lot because, while technically a makuta and "villain", doesn't really want to to be (and isn't) actually evil. I wish he wasn't the only Bionicle character like this. Also, his design is one of my favorites of all time for Bionicle canister sets.
If you wanted to stick the Great Beings at the top of the list, perhaps you could have focused on the specific Great Being that stowed away on the Mata Nui robot. He's the reason that the inhabitants of the Matoran Universe even have personalities. After the reunification of Spherus Magna, he then decided that this reborn world should be his to command and set about killing off anything that could stand against him (including Tren Krom and Karzahni).
Zangeif's line in Wreck-It Ralph should be reversed here. "Just because you are bad guy doesn't mean you are bad-guy." It's true that the Great Being set in motion many, many awful events, but those events were consequences of their meddling as opposed to the desired outcome. In my mind, to truly be a villain requires an intent that the Great Beings simply do not possess. Their plans weren't intended to cause *any* destruction, but they all had unforeseen flaws that created more of a mess than it fixed. Are they the heroes of the story? Absolutely not, but they certainly aren't *villains.*
What about Velika? I read that He killed Karzanii, Artakha, Hellryx, Lessovik and other god-like characters in order to rule over Sperus magna and also know how to be inmune to the elemental toa powers and even how to desactivate a toa.
Wojtek J. Not really. the great beings are on the list, yes, but calling all of them "villains" is too general of a statement in my opinion. The great beings tried to repair their mistake with Mata Nui. Teridax's betrayal was velika's fault, not theirs. Why? Because Velika was responsible for the sentience of the inhabitants of the matoran universe, thus allowing Makuta Teridax to posses a free will and to possess the emotion of jealosy. Without Velika, the Mata Nui robot would have carried out his job just fine. So I think Velika needs his own spot on the list as number 1, and the great beings should be removed from the list.
Great list, perhaps not exactly what I would've picked but I generally agree, I look forward to the next top ten. As a quick suggestion, doing a top ten story serials at some point could be pretty cool. Just an idea, if you haven't already thought of it.
Forgot to mension that Velika one of the Great Beings inacted a plan to destroy everyone that could prove a threat to the Great Beings power after Spherus Magna was reformed. Unfortunately this story was never finished because Bionicle was cancelled but from what Greg revealed its safe to assume Takanuva would've defeated him and the other Great Beings before they destroyed everything and started building from the ground up likely making the same mistakes, or worse.
Roodaka is clearly a top Villian of the Franchise. Also another Reason why the Visorak Ark not so bad is. They have so much room in this Ark, they used it for more Worldbuilding, and it was great. Toa Hagah, the first Mention of the Brotherhood of Makuta, how Makutas Forces are compiled and operate. It wasnt a wast of time, even if Vakamas Story and the grimdark Feeling was not the right Idea and the Sets (Toa Hordika, Ketongu, Rahaga) arent as good as others.
Really stupid of me, but could we sometime maybe see a video maybe a top 10 (or something) with the entire active TTV team stating their favorite years in depth. Because that'd be awesome sauce.
Makuta's Plan throughout BIONICLE 2001- Attacked the island of Mata Nui 2002- The Bohrok attacked the Toa 2003- Unleashed the Rahkshi 2004- Take over Metru Nui and bust the Matoran and brainwashed them. 2005 - The Visorak Hordes took over Metru Nui as back up for Makuta Teridax's defeat. 2006- Used the Piraka to shoot Antidermis and take control of them 2007- Take over a Maxilos Robot and attacked the Toa Mahri 2008- Took over the entire Matoran Universe 2009- Unleashed a Reign Of Shadows 2010- Battled Mata Nui and died G2 2015 - Release the Skull Spiders 2016- Use the Mask Of Ultimate Power fragments to free him of the Shadow Realm
With them there is also no BIONICLE. They want to kill the MU since everyone has developed a personality, something that the GB had not intended to happen. If they had their way, we'd have mindless drones rather than the quirky characters we know and love.
Really? The Piraka beat the Barraki to a spot on the list? I was always pretty fond of the Piraka, but if I was asked about my favorite canister set villains, the Barraki win without question. Cunning, powerful, as perfect as bio-organic organisms can be, the Barraki were the team that the Piraka could only dream of being. And actually, the number 1 villain should've been GregF. Let's be real here.
I would contest the idea that the Great Beings are villains. At best, they are just too proud and don't practice caution when performing their experiments. Nothing they have done was intended to cause harm, and they cared enough about what they were doing to create a 40 million foot tall robot to fix their home planet. Saying they are villains would be like saying Hammond from Jurassic Park is a villain. Just because he and they may have been careless and may have unintentionally caused the death of many, this was not what they wanted. Or even Walter Bishop from Fringe. He broke two universes just to save a life. Foolish and reckless, but not necessarily villainous. The Great Beings messed with their planet, but they clearly knew it was a problem if they were willing to create something so massive and otherwise impractical in order to undo the damage. Keep in mind, though: the Great Beings weren't responsible for the Shattering. The EP is. The EP is the impetus for the Core War, and is known to be sapient. It can't control destiny so it can't necessarily prevent itself from destroying things, but it is a hostile entity. Really, one of the earlier known menaces on Spherus Magna other than Annona would be the Element Lords, who weren't exactly creations of the Great Beings. The Great Beings gave abilities to those people, but it didn't affect how the Core War played out. Yes, more people would've died because of the ELs' abilities, but the War would've happened either way. Technically, most of the experiments carried out by the GBs haven't been particularly harmful. They've had some blunders here and there, but the majority of the things they did was enhance the Glatorian, Agori and Skrall races with biotechnology, and bio-mechanize some species like some wolves and the Skopios. Remind me again when they did really harm someone other than their own (like the GB who touched the Ignika).
JJ Pryer The only difference between the Great Beings and Walter Bishop is that we see the story from the side of Walter Bishop. I'd definitely count Walternate as a villain for those few seasons, but he's literally just a more together Walter. If Bionicle was told from the point of view from the Great Beings, it would be different. But it isn't.
TTV Kahi Well yeah, Walter broke two universes and Walternate wanted to destroy one of them completely. The GBs, on the other hand, just did a bunch of weirdo experiments that didn't cause any harm to anyone except one of their own. The Element Lords and Baterra would've been their biggest blunder. But they didn't break the planet; the EP did. The GB only intended to repair the damage. Clearly they cared. Willing to spend an immense amount of resources on some megascale structure to repair their planet. They may simply have a natural desire to create weird things but they had a direction with this project to unify the worlds. …which is odd since the Shattering didn't destroy the whole planet a la Krypton, and there being two moons afterward didn't seem so bad. It's only implied by Kiina that whatever happened in the past made most of Bara Magna into a desert. It's not wholly clear since Bara Magna would've always been a desert, but wouldn't colliding three massive celestial bodies together destroy all life on them? I guess the robot had gravity powers but wouldn't space travel (or even teleportation) between the worlds have been an easier, more practical solution to building such an immense thing? If we think of it that way, maybe the GBs foresaw that travel between the worlds would've been feasible (if not space travel due to the dangerous EP in planets' orbit, we know teleportation is a thing in that universe), but they would've rather exploited the impending tragedy as an excuse to build their biggest project yet to compensate for their god complexes. If that were the case, then I could imagine that they were truly villainous because doing this 100,000 year project meant 100,000 years of suffering to Bara Magna's peoples rather than building means to travel between the worlds within 20 years. They clearly had the resources to build a megascale robot, so they could've done better. At the very least, you could say they are sociopaths. They never killed anyone like Makuta did, but they probably don't care if anyone did die. By inaction, they let a lot of suffering happen in two worlds. Although one of them did seem to care about the whole Marendar thing. Maybe they do have a conscious, even to beings they created? Who knows? We never got to really see what they were all about.
I'm personally quite the fan of Mutran. He's not the Makuta who launches the grand-scale plans, but he was cunning and clever. He's an enjoyable character all around. I also like Vezon, Miserix and Brutaka as villains, but they are more like anti-heroes in my opinion.
Lots of people do, however it's been shot down again and again by the story team. Humans and Earth do not and will not and have not ever been a thing in the BIONICLE universe, or any other alternate one besides the main core universe.
Number one should've been Solek because he is the most fearsome villain and in-depth character in the 12 years of Bionicle, spanning across 2 generations.
Seems to be based a lot on power 'n stuff, even though the Great Beings, and the Shadowed One, for example, didn't appear so directly in the storyline. In my opinion, it leaves quite a gap in their personality, and makes us quite unable to see what they really can do. As you might have guessed from my username, Vezon was my favorite villian for a pretty long time, but now I'm more a fan of Teridax. Those two have quite an interesting personality and story if you ask me. Teridax being the evil badass mastermind, and Vezon being more of a weird, insane nihilist. That Vezon doesn't do so much makes him less interesting, though.
I never knew Kharzani, the Shadowed One, Tuyet, or The Brotherhood of Makuta until this video. I was thinking their spots would belong to the Bohrok, the Rahkshi, and all the other groups of villains.
Man, back in my day Karzahni was just a rogue houseplant sealed away in a labyrinth. He wasn't a sapient set, he was a prototype phytohydra that was too unruly to be used and was replaced by the more docile(!) Morbuzakh. I think the ridiculousness of recycling old non-sapient characters as titan sets is where I stopped following Bionicle. Seeing Karzahni as a set was the first time I ever said a Bionicle release was "stupid." To think little old sperg Jake accepted everything up to and including squid launchers with blind abandon, but a previous character being completely rehashed as some green thing with legs was too much.
10.baraki 9.piraka 8.vezon 7.antraz 6.bohrak 5.terradax 4.rakshi 3.shadowed one 2. evil lewa (as in when he had the krana and infected mask) 1.toa tuyet
You consider the Great Beings villains? That's like saying that the man who invented the gun is pure evil because guns have killed so many people- that's ridiculous
2nd part of my comment (sry i forgot) I cannot completly accept to that they leaded to Core War. The Elemental Rulers leaded to it after when they discovered enegised protodermis inside planet. That made Great Beings to leave planet
jd bee It's because a Great Being killed 3 characters in less than a day. Also the Great Beings caused most of the evil in the universe, such as Makuta becoming evil. Also yes some of them were evil like Velika and the corrupted Great Being; check more on Bionicle Wiki.
How comes the great Beings are villains? They created the BIONICLE beings and so, they were experimenting with what or who they could. It's like the MK Ultra project in real life :D *waits for gunshot sounds*
The Piraka... Probably my favorite villains of the whole storyline. Nah. My favorite villain is Brutaka. He literally has the word "brute" in his name.
Least favorite Top 10 so far. I expected only individuals instead of organization, and I'd say Teridax falls under the Brotherhood of Makuta. Also, I was fully expecting Nidhiki to be here somewhere.
haven't started watching and I think it's obvious who number 1 will be. EDIT: I never took the great beings into account, huh interesting number 1 choice, good reason to give them the spot tho.
Calling the great beings 'villains' seems like a bit of a cheat way to get the most powerful entities on this list - that's like saying that all the problems of our own world can all be traced to the fact that someone or something created us, and therefore the creator is to blame. Personally, I think that once creation takes place and intelligent life is formed, that same life is responsible for their own actions. I'm not so sure that the great beings should necessarily qualify for the list.
I like how the list mentions that Teridax always was jealous for being second best, and then he ended up as #2 on the list.
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Clownpiece breaking news, makuta now runs the channel, while the other hosts have been turned into bohrok.
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o wow, we must defeat him
The Shadow Man var escaped the makuta controlled ttv channel and crash landed on ttv product showcase, where he will soon grow to be powerful enough to fight the powerful makuta
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The idea behind Ahkmou always really disturbed me.
He's a simple Po-matoran who decided to turn on his own countrymen
and knowingly sells them items that inflicts madness and eventual death.
That a seemingly harmless matoran could perform such awful deeds is much scarier
than anything the Makuta could ever do.
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Andy Like a drug dealer... not as scary as the maniac or terrorist, but they can rip apart a community once given enough traction and time.
+Andy well the story showed that a simple matoran could go as far as to kill some of the most powerful beings of the universe by being a great being in disguise...also that explains why great beings are on the list
Imagine if he started working for Velika.
Ahkmou also does blackface
"You know all of us are real supervillains deep down inside, some of us are just better at hiding it than others," Oof, that did not age well.
Makuta Teridax is definitely the villain to end all villains. His personality just fits for someone like him. His very design gives off a sheer sense of fear and dread. He's one of the most powerful villains I've seen in any media and that's without mentioning his genius intellect. Overall he's only truly lost once in the series and that's after he succeeds in becoming a god. Every other loss before this was just a minor setback or part of his plan.
He literally took over the universe. He BECAME the universe. The Great Beings did everything on accident. Then we have Marendar and Velika being built up as even worse than Makuta AAAAAAAAND the story ends
Teridax could have been higher on the list had the "tragic hero" from MoL stayed for the rest of the saga. Conquest is so cliche, but a madman who believes he's protecting his bother? That is very rarely seen.
I'd prefer if he continuously used that excuse to manipulate others and make himself seem tragic, and then by the time he's taken over the universe most people realize he's just straight-up evil. And even then he could use it to manipulate a decent amount of beings to side with him against Mata Nui.
Number one is obviously the Lord of Skull Spiders, I mean come on.
FillmFilms jk
FillmFilms No, it's Skull Scorpio!
nah, it's that guy named Vorox. Who could forget his iconic, chilling catchphrase "beware my stinger tail!"
@@FillmFilms Nah. It's clearly a protodite.
With what's come up about kahi, him narrating this video is very appropriate.
I never thought of the great beings as villains, but I guess they could be seen that way.
William Lambert Well, I suppose it really depends on what you qualify as a villain. The great beings were really kind of just scientists messing with powers that could and were employed for evil. That's where I personally don't exactly agree with this list. It's kind of like calling the scientists who discovered nuclear fission villains; they were just discovering things about our universe that we didn't understand previously, those things just happened to lead to the human ability to destroy our world with the press of a button.
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William Lambert at the very least, Velika is a Villian and a great being
I'm very fond of these top tens. Please do more
Velika was the true number one villain, killing both Karzahni and Tren Krom, and betraying the entire matoran universe for his ultimate master plan.
I lolled at number 1. Honestly Velika in particular deserves a mention on number 1 spot. Lets be clear what if Velika is responsible for all of what happened? For all we know he could've influenced Teridax to go on conquest for power. Don't forget he gave all MU inhabitants more advanced artificial intelligence.
VideoMakerMax Velika's my fav single villain too. :)
I would include Tuma personally. While he was indeed evil, he was a tragic villain, burdened with the responsibility of leading his entire species and forced to make desperate choices. He deserved more than his brief growly appearance in The Legend Reborn.
My favourite villain is the Mask of Life. That bloody mask killed Matoro!
I know, I'm just joking.
I always liked Makuta Krika.While not very villainous Makuta Krika got a lot more depth than a lot of the Bionicle villains (cough Barraki).
DrMaddWorld Yeah, if the Makuta could get individual spots besides Terry then I'd totally include Krika.
Top 10 Villains but not really Villains too.
10: Krika
9: Krika
8: Krika
7: Krika
6: Krika
5: Krika
4: Krika
3: Krika
2: Krika
1: Krika
0: Krika
ltranc It's so beautiful.
I know I'm late, but the Barraki actually had a lot of depth and were the best Bionicle villains (To me).
General thoughts/responses:
1. Vezon is overrated.
2. Brutaka's spends much more time in the story as a redeemed hero than he does as a villain. I wouldn't put Vakama on this list, even though he technically goes through the same arc as well. If we had met Brutaka before 2006, he wouldn't even be in this discussion. tl;dr it's just a phase
3. We had a huge argument about the Barraki vs the Piraka. I wish we had recorded that. Personally, I feel like the Barraki were underutilized and less memorable than the Piraka. What could have been Game of Thrones Under The Sea was really the same villain spread over a bunch of people. The Piraka kind of are too, but I felt that they were more striking and iconic. It was a huge debate, though. You should have been there.
4. The Great Beings were more interested in their own pursuits than caring about the people around them. Their experiments led to the Core War, the Shattering, and very nearly unleashed a power hungry meglomaniac in a giant robot body to wreak havoc on the universe. If Mata Nui had been killed by Makuta, you can be pretty sure he wouldn't have stopped there. Their selfish mistakes had huge ramifications that they kept making worse, and that's the making of any villain if you ask me.
5. Vezon is overrated.
This was just my opinion, though. Subjective lists based on taste, yay, etc.
- Kahi
Vezon is hilarious
But overrated
thethreevirtues But Roodaka at sixth place? Lower than Karzahni? True, he had better backstory and more "omnious" aura, but he didn't really cause much trouble for Toa or Order of Mata Nui. Roodaka was a major player for a long time, plus she mastered not only arts of leadership and deception, but also her own sipirt with development of limited shadow powers. She should've been #3 at least.
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thethreevirtues why is vezon overrated ? i mean i would have given him place 10 since he did take the mask of life buuut....yea he basiclly is a skakdi version of deadpool....without the regenerative abillety ofcourse.....
I don't think the Great Beings are villains: they just were poor leaders and made great mistakes, especially create the Element Lords
But, well...
10.- Metus
9.- Ahkmou
8.- Sidorak
7.- Annonna
6.- Tuyet
5.- Dark Hunters
4.- The Barraki
3.- Zaktan
2.- Roodaka
1.- Teridax
I don't think they are cannon.
The piraka are awesome.
Toa of Darkness
The Element Lords ARE canon; they appeared in Riddle of the Great Beings and All Our Sins Remembered
MrAvakstone92 I wouldn't say they're villians, just creators who didn't learn from their mistakes. I.e. Tren Krom.
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that's what I'm saying; they did all with the best intentions.... just their plans didn't end up well
I wouldn't exactly say that the Great Beings are "evil". True, they have a track-record of screwing things up, but it wasn't like they wanted Spherus Magna to end. And while they never intended to give sentience to the MU inhabitants, Angonce did try to prevent Marendar (who was designed to destroy Toa) from escaping its cell, which would've saved the lives of any Toa still living.
Even Velika, the most "evil" of the bunch, isn't totally a bad person per say. He's not prideful like Teridax, or nutty like Tuyet. He just wants order, as much as anyone. The only problem, though, is that he believes that force is the only way to bring peace. The Great Beings are just a bunch of dudes addicted to creation and experimentation.
Stonewall0513 I didn't necessarily say that they were evil. I said that they were good villains.
At 5:33, I think you might have gotten mixed up with Makuta and Mata-Nui's names there. '...in his plan to upseat Makuta as the true Great Spirit.'
But other than that... interesting video. I largely agree with the placement choices, though I do wonder why all six Piraka made the list, as opposed to just Zaktan. He really stood out to me amongst all the others.
Really would like to see more Top Tens, I like these videos from you guys.
You probably should have singled out "Velika" among the Great Beings as he was responsible for the sapience of Teridax in order to orchestrate an even bigger plan to rule over Spherus Magna, all while under the innocent guise of the matoran.
10. Metus-betrayed the agori and unlike Ahkmou wasn't really sus
9. Annona-dream stealing and all that
8. Energized Protodermis-worked with the Makuta and may have been responsible for the shattering, extremely enigmatic so it is low on the list.
7. The Piraka-Dynamic gang with somewhat unique personalities as well as a menacing appearance, not very successful though and ended up becoming the Skakdi Fusion
6. The Barraki-extremely successful before and were indirectly responsible for Teridax's takeover due to giving him the idea as well as the fact that after the reformation of Spherus Magna they most likely conquered it along with the Dark Hunters
5. The Dark Hunters(specifically the Shadowed One)-cool concept, in it for money alone, not motivated by some implausible evil scheme but just by profit. They aren't higher due to the fact that their more amoral than evil.
4. Roodaka-extremely kniving, so much so that her name is actually matoran slang for treachery
3. The Makuta(specifically Teridax), successfully took over the universe and ruled it for awhile.
2. The Great Beings, neglectful and evil towards their creations, caused the shattering out of their own greed, enslaved the agori and glatorian populations and performed cruel experiments on living subjects as if they were merely objects.
1. Velika(rogue from the great beings), indirectly caused all the MU based villains and orchestrated a yet unknown master plan to rule Spherus Magna all under the guise of an innocent matoran(Metus x20)
This is probably exactly my list, except replace metus with krika and move him a little higher up. I like krika a lot because, while technically a makuta and "villain", doesn't really want to to be (and isn't) actually evil. I wish he wasn't the only Bionicle character like this. Also, his design is one of my favorites of all time for Bionicle canister sets.
If you wanted to stick the Great Beings at the top of the list, perhaps you could have focused on the specific Great Being that stowed away on the Mata Nui robot. He's the reason that the inhabitants of the Matoran Universe even have personalities. After the reunification of Spherus Magna, he then decided that this reborn world should be his to command and set about killing off anything that could stand against him (including Tren Krom and Karzahni).
Kahi is the biggest villian of all time
Woo Roodaka! Awesome villain story!
Zangeif's line in Wreck-It Ralph should be reversed here. "Just because you are bad guy doesn't mean you are bad-guy." It's true that the Great Being set in motion many, many awful events, but those events were consequences of their meddling as opposed to the desired outcome. In my mind, to truly be a villain requires an intent that the Great Beings simply do not possess. Their plans weren't intended to cause *any* destruction, but they all had unforeseen flaws that created more of a mess than it fixed. Are they the heroes of the story? Absolutely not, but they certainly aren't *villains.*
What about Velika? I read that He killed Karzanii, Artakha, Hellryx, Lessovik and other god-like characters in order to rule over Sperus magna and also know how to be inmune to the elemental toa powers and even how to desactivate a toa.
Wojtek J. Not really. the great beings are on the list, yes, but calling all of them "villains" is too general of a statement in my opinion. The great beings tried to repair their mistake with Mata Nui. Teridax's betrayal was velika's fault, not theirs. Why? Because Velika was responsible for the sentience of the inhabitants of the matoran universe, thus allowing Makuta Teridax to posses a free will and to possess the emotion of jealosy. Without Velika, the Mata Nui robot would have carried out his job just fine. So I think Velika needs his own spot on the list as number 1, and the great beings should be removed from the list.
Some ideas for future top 10s:
-Top 10 Weapons in Bionicle
-Top 10 Bionicle Stop-Motion Series
-Top 10 Toa/Matoran/Whatever/Rabbit
Top ten bionicle plot holes.
Toa of Darkness And then the comments will be full of people patching them!
I like this idea...
Great list, perhaps not exactly what I would've picked but I generally agree, I look forward to the next top ten.
As a quick suggestion, doing a top ten story serials at some point could be pretty cool. Just an idea, if you haven't already thought of it.
Eljay: KAHI IS #1 VILLAIN! ALSO THE BARRAKI SHOULD BE ON HERE, CUZ ALL OF THE PIRAKA HAVE THE EXACT SAME PERSONALITY WHEN THEY HAVE MORE DIVERSITY!
Forgot to mension that Velika one of the Great Beings inacted a plan to destroy everyone that could prove a threat to the Great Beings power after Spherus Magna was reformed. Unfortunately this story was never finished because Bionicle was cancelled but from what Greg revealed its safe to assume Takanuva would've defeated him and the other Great Beings before they destroyed everything and started building from the ground up likely making the same mistakes, or worse.
FaceUnreality Than make your own video saying your opinions.
Liam Ferris
But I like commenting.
You can still comment but you can also make your own.
Liam Ferris
I don't want to make my own video.
Why not?
Personally:
10. Tuma (Pre Legend Reborn)
9. The Piraka (Zaktan in particular)
8. Pridak
7. The Shadowed One
6. Ahkmou
5. Lariska
4. Takadox
3. Teridax
2. Krika
1. Tuyet
Roodaka is clearly a top Villian of the Franchise. Also another Reason why the Visorak Ark not so bad is.
They have so much room in this Ark, they used it for more Worldbuilding, and it was great. Toa Hagah, the first Mention of the Brotherhood of Makuta, how Makutas Forces are compiled and operate. It wasnt a wast of time, even if Vakamas Story and the grimdark Feeling was not the right Idea and the Sets (Toa Hordika, Ketongu, Rahaga) arent as good as others.
I did not expect #1 at all, but I can see your point.
NOW DO TOP 10 MASKS
Really stupid of me, but could we sometime maybe see a video maybe a top 10 (or something) with the entire active TTV team stating their favorite years in depth. Because that'd be awesome sauce.
It's obvious the real villains of BIONICLE were the lime green pieces
Lol at how you guys always put what we'd all expect #1 to be as #2 and make #1 a surprise.
Makuta's Plan throughout BIONICLE
2001- Attacked the island of Mata Nui
2002- The Bohrok attacked the Toa
2003- Unleashed the Rahkshi
2004- Take over Metru Nui and bust the Matoran and brainwashed them.
2005 - The Visorak Hordes took over Metru Nui as back up for Makuta Teridax's defeat.
2006- Used the Piraka to shoot Antidermis and take control of them
2007- Take over a Maxilos Robot and attacked the Toa Mahri
2008- Took over the entire Matoran Universe
2009- Unleashed a Reign Of Shadows
2010- Battled Mata Nui and died
G2
2015 - Release the Skull Spiders
2016- Use the Mask Of Ultimate Power fragments to free him of the Shadow Realm
you can't be serious! THE GREAT BEINGS?! WITHOUT THEM THERE IS NO BIONICLE!
They were playing with other people's lives.
With them there is also no BIONICLE. They want to kill the MU since everyone has developed a personality, something that the GB had not intended to happen. If they had their way, we'd have mindless drones rather than the quirky characters we know and love.
I always thought they were good! What was Mata Nui's role then? Why was he so highly reguarded?
Toa of Darkness It's funny that the great beings creations almost always either went insane or caused a lot of shit to happen.
Teridax wasn't created by the Great Beings, he was created by Mata Nui.
Bionicle : Great Beings :: Halo : Forerunners
Really? The Piraka beat the Barraki to a spot on the list?
I was always pretty fond of the Piraka, but if I was asked about my favorite canister set villains, the Barraki win without question. Cunning, powerful, as perfect as bio-organic organisms can be, the Barraki were the team that the Piraka could only dream of being.
And actually, the number 1 villain should've been GregF. Let's be real here.
***** Finally, someone agrees with me! Yes, the Barraki were awesome! Best Bionicle wave ever!
I would contest the idea that the Great Beings are villains. At best, they are just too proud and don't practice caution when performing their experiments. Nothing they have done was intended to cause harm, and they cared enough about what they were doing to create a 40 million foot tall robot to fix their home planet.
Saying they are villains would be like saying Hammond from Jurassic Park is a villain. Just because he and they may have been careless and may have unintentionally caused the death of many, this was not what they wanted.
Or even Walter Bishop from Fringe. He broke two universes just to save a life. Foolish and reckless, but not necessarily villainous. The Great Beings messed with their planet, but they clearly knew it was a problem if they were willing to create something so massive and otherwise impractical in order to undo the damage.
Keep in mind, though: the Great Beings weren't responsible for the Shattering. The EP is. The EP is the impetus for the Core War, and is known to be sapient. It can't control destiny so it can't necessarily prevent itself from destroying things, but it is a hostile entity.
Really, one of the earlier known menaces on Spherus Magna other than Annona would be the Element Lords, who weren't exactly creations of the Great Beings. The Great Beings gave abilities to those people, but it didn't affect how the Core War played out. Yes, more people would've died because of the ELs' abilities, but the War would've happened either way.
Technically, most of the experiments carried out by the GBs haven't been particularly harmful. They've had some blunders here and there, but the majority of the things they did was enhance the Glatorian, Agori and Skrall races with biotechnology, and bio-mechanize some species like some wolves and the Skopios. Remind me again when they did really harm someone other than their own (like the GB who touched the Ignika).
JJ Pryer The only difference between the Great Beings and Walter Bishop is that we see the story from the side of Walter Bishop. I'd definitely count Walternate as a villain for those few seasons, but he's literally just a more together Walter. If Bionicle was told from the point of view from the Great Beings, it would be different. But it isn't.
TTV Kahi Well yeah, Walter broke two universes and Walternate wanted to destroy one of them completely.
The GBs, on the other hand, just did a bunch of weirdo experiments that didn't cause any harm to anyone except one of their own. The Element Lords and Baterra would've been their biggest blunder. But they didn't break the planet; the EP did. The GB only intended to repair the damage. Clearly they cared. Willing to spend an immense amount of resources on some megascale structure to repair their planet. They may simply have a natural desire to create weird things but they had a direction with this project to unify the worlds.
…which is odd since the Shattering didn't destroy the whole planet a la Krypton, and there being two moons afterward didn't seem so bad. It's only implied by Kiina that whatever happened in the past made most of Bara Magna into a desert. It's not wholly clear since Bara Magna would've always been a desert, but wouldn't colliding three massive celestial bodies together destroy all life on them? I guess the robot had gravity powers but wouldn't space travel (or even teleportation) between the worlds have been an easier, more practical solution to building such an immense thing?
If we think of it that way, maybe the GBs foresaw that travel between the worlds would've been feasible (if not space travel due to the dangerous EP in planets' orbit, we know teleportation is a thing in that universe), but they would've rather exploited the impending tragedy as an excuse to build their biggest project yet to compensate for their god complexes.
If that were the case, then I could imagine that they were truly villainous because doing this 100,000 year project meant 100,000 years of suffering to Bara Magna's peoples rather than building means to travel between the worlds within 20 years. They clearly had the resources to build a megascale robot, so they could've done better. At the very least, you could say they are sociopaths. They never killed anyone like Makuta did, but they probably don't care if anyone did die. By inaction, they let a lot of suffering happen in two worlds.
Although one of them did seem to care about the whole Marendar thing. Maybe they do have a conscious, even to beings they created? Who knows? We never got to really see what they were all about.
JJ Pryer hey
How does Makuta not take number one? He is a genius who's only fault was a horribly written death.
DreadPathZone Look up at Velika. I think he is the bigger maniac
How is being smashed in the head by a planet and having his soul vaporized anything short of awesome?
The intro has aged like fine wine
Greg Farshtey’s the real villain in the Bionicle universe. He says love’s not canon!
U DIDNT EVEN ADD BRUTAKA!!!
HE IS SOO AWESOME, but besides that good video
While I may not quite agree, I admit that was *very* clever.
I LOVE the piraka! Coolest villain set yet
I'm personally quite the fan of Mutran. He's not the Makuta who launches the grand-scale plans, but he was cunning and clever. He's an enjoyable character all around.
I also like Vezon, Miserix and Brutaka as villains, but they are more like anti-heroes in my opinion.
Professor Turnip Vezon is a villain, i think. But the others are definitely anti-heroes.
Miserix was grumpy like Tren Krom, but he never opose the Heros, and help too protect the Universe.
He had not Buissness to be on the List.
The Barraki though...
Where can I get the karzani mask.
Greg Farshtey is the number one villain, he designed the countless atrocities that are the core of the story
Tuma and the new armored Teridax! :3 (new armored teridax is the lego combo of Skull Grinder/Mask maker/Skull Scorpio, right?)
I always wondered what the name of the background music is?
Top ten bionicle secrets.
I also look forward to watching
Dexter thoma Okay.
Makuta Remoris That would be cool.
I don't care how many videos you made mister 123 you will be the next one I subscribe to
6:09 Now that's Art!
Karzahni. Satan and a bunch of crabs went to the bottom of the ocean, then mutated into a pray mantis and got killed by a beam.
from a flying Laserbear.
I always liked to interpret the Great Beings as some future form of humans
+The Philly Madmen ... THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE I think
yep
Humans who experimented with their Lego but created horrible constructions?
Lots of people do, however it's been shot down again and again by the story team. Humans and Earth do not and will not and have not ever been a thing in the BIONICLE universe, or any other alternate one besides the main core universe.
how fitting in hindsight that the top 10 Bionicle villains list ended up being narrated by one of the biggest villains of the irl Bionicle community
turns out the great being is the villian all along, WHAT A TWIST
Makuta Teridax is THE GREATEST VILLIAN EVER, Bionicle or otherwise. I believe this passionately! :)
Number one should've been Solek because he is the most fearsome villain and in-depth character in the 12 years of Bionicle, spanning across 2 generations.
Seems to be based a lot on power 'n stuff, even though the Great Beings, and the Shadowed One, for example, didn't appear so directly in the storyline. In my opinion, it leaves quite a gap in their personality, and makes us quite unable to see what they really can do. As you might have guessed from my username, Vezon was my favorite villian for a pretty long time, but now I'm more a fan of Teridax. Those two have quite an interesting personality and story if you ask me. Teridax being the evil badass mastermind, and Vezon being more of a weird, insane nihilist. That Vezon doesn't do so much makes him less interesting, though.
wait!, WTF happened to the great beings any way? it just occured to me we know jackall about them, and ive been into bionicle since day one!
yes kahi this is going to be awesome
Why is Roodaka so low? Below Tuyet, below Karzahni? What were you even thinking, how were you even rating these villains?
I never knew Kharzani, the Shadowed One, Tuyet, or The Brotherhood of Makuta until this video. I was thinking their spots would belong to the Bohrok, the Rahkshi, and all the other groups of villains.
Man, back in my day Karzahni was just a rogue houseplant sealed away in a labyrinth. He wasn't a sapient set, he was a prototype phytohydra that was too unruly to be used and was replaced by the more docile(!) Morbuzakh.
I think the ridiculousness of recycling old non-sapient characters as titan sets is where I stopped following Bionicle. Seeing Karzahni as a set was the first time I ever said a Bionicle release was "stupid." To think little old sperg Jake accepted everything up to and including squid launchers with blind abandon, but a previous character being completely rehashed as some green thing with legs was too much.
I agree with this list. But having the great beings no: 1 on the list shocked me!
Me too. Then again, even gods can be cruel at times.
I would have put in the barraki instead of the piraka, since the barraki were the first to try overthrowing mata nui.
10.baraki
9.piraka
8.vezon
7.antraz
6.bohrak
5.terradax
4.rakshi
3.shadowed one
2. evil lewa (as in when he had the krana and infected mask)
1.toa tuyet
Do top 10 Bionicle weapons. The Rhotuka launchers have to be number 1
You consider the Great Beings villains? That's like saying that the man who invented the gun is pure evil because guns have killed so many people- that's ridiculous
Piraka are my favourite. I still got Avak and Tohk with me.
I swear, the background music sounds like a remix for a song from the MNOG soundtrack.
Sounds like a good song for a science lab.
2nd part of my comment (sry i forgot) I cannot completly accept to that they leaded to Core War. The Elemental Rulers leaded to it after when they discovered enegised protodermis inside planet. That made Great Beings to leave planet
Did everyone forget about evil Tahu.
What he did isn't anything compared to this. Now if he had killed a fellow toa then he'd be in here
The Bean Productions oh that explains it.
Makuta Remoris np
Makuta Remoris which one?
Santi T When Tuhrak infected Tahu's mask.
But...but...the Barraki...WARLORDS! D:
poissony YES!
so... no vezon, sad, he is my favourite villian, or at least non-toa character, actually, my 3rth favourote character after vakama and matoro
I imagine the shadowed one would be upset being put below Teridax AGAIN.
what about vezon?
Number 1: *skull grinder*
Zaktan and pridak have to be at the top of my list
I'm not sure if he counts as a villain, but my favourirte would be Irnakk (thumbs up if you've actually heard ok him).
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Wow, you got me there. I thought Teridax would be #1 but the Great Beings are a good choice.
How they weren't evil just misguided
jd bee It's because a Great Being killed 3 characters in less than a day. Also the Great Beings caused most of the evil in the universe, such as Makuta becoming evil. Also yes some of them were evil like Velika and the corrupted Great Being; check more on Bionicle Wiki.
But as a whole were they evil no just a few bad apples and a lot of bad decisions
jd bee That is a good point as well...
Wait. B-but Vezon!
Vezon is better than Ahkmou!
I have not read the books/comics, but I am pretty sure he's a villain
ooooooooooooooooh.... did this age, weiiird...
Lol that intro
How comes the great Beings are villains? They created the BIONICLE beings and so, they were experimenting with what or who they could.
It's like the MK Ultra project in real life :D
*waits for gunshot sounds*
The Piraka... Probably my favorite villains of the whole storyline. Nah. My favorite villain is Brutaka. He literally has the word "brute" in his name.
The great beigns should be an example that show us what are gods, the enemy.
+TiZiAnO Di Felice wow. your comment couldn't be any cringier.
Least favorite Top 10 so far. I expected only individuals instead of organization, and I'd say Teridax falls under the Brotherhood of Makuta. Also, I was fully expecting Nidhiki to be here somewhere.
haven't started watching and I think it's obvious who number 1 will be.
EDIT: I never took the great beings into account, huh interesting number 1 choice, good reason to give them the spot tho.
***** Makuta Teridax, I thought that was the obvious choice at first.
1:34
Insert Piraka Rap here
My favourite villian is the traitorous Hero Factory
Cool car 161 what?
My favourite villian of Bionicle is Lego. They killed Bionicle and Hero Factory.
This video is awesome
The Great Beings aren't Villains. They just Don't know when to stop.
What about our dark overlord kapura
Also new bionicle commercial
Hey guys there's a new bionicle ad on Legos channel with skull grinder in it!
The Great Beings?! They're not villains! Just idiots.
jedder Ehhh.... Velika....
Vaerthelmn 52
That's 1 Great Being. Toa Tuyet doesn't represent her species as a whole either.
jedder Yeah, but I'm pointing out 1 that is.
jedder Well, they were to Makuta Teridax, what Heinrich Himmler was to Adolf Hitler, during WWII.
if the great veings got number 1, does that mean veilika is a number 1?
The brotherhood of makuta are pretty similar to the brotherhood of steel
Calling the great beings 'villains' seems like a bit of a cheat way to get the most powerful entities on this list - that's like saying that all the problems of our own world can all be traced to the fact that someone or something created us, and therefore the creator is to blame. Personally, I think that once creation takes place and intelligent life is formed, that same life is responsible for their own actions. I'm not so sure that the great beings should necessarily qualify for the list.