It's a good angel name, since it means "pledged to God", and it's also Germanic, which suits Innistrad perfectly. Though it should probably be pronounced "lee-za" or "li-eza", depending on localization.
@@sofer2230 I can never unsee the name of LIESA, Liga das Escolas de Samba (Samba Schools' League, translating roughly), so she'll always remind me of Carnaval.
Innistrad is probably my favourite plane. Shadows over Innistrad was my first set opened when returning to the game. I definitely wanna try out an Orzhov Innistrad Theme with her, with Sorin and his vampires. There's a lot id like to do, just gotta hope I can do it.
@@Cyberium That could also be fun, but Bruna and Gisela never turned against Avacyn since all three of them fell into madness at the same time if for possibly differing reasons.
1:41 'Rather than pay 2 life for each previous time..... you may pay 2 life instead' you said life instead of mana on the first part, but all in all, rather interesting
Ooo, Orzhov countdown. A life gain deck with a mass life tax theme, including life altering effects like Soul Conduit and Tree of Perdition, mass ping effects like Pestilence and Last Laugh, and Tainted Sigil as a secret tech.
Honestly the commander I've been wanting since I got into the format a year and a half ago with Ayli. I do absolutely love me some aristocrats strategies, but the lifegain-control is what I've always wanted to focus on.
Strangest thing about her first ability is that it isn't optional: You *have* to pay the commander tax as life rather than mana. Definitely going for the life gain approach, personally, while also taking advantage of her "Derevi-but-fair" quality with stuff like Skull Storm, Tome of Legends, Empyreal Storm, possibly Opal Palace and Commander's Insignia. And of course Font of Agonies is a must.
Oh I'm excited! I ran an RPG a few years ago in the Innistrad setting and used "my" Lesia as the big player in the game. Since there was almost no lore she was fresh but still strongly tied to the setting.
seems like a nice commander to add white to my Rankle deck. i think i've lost enough friends playing it so adding white, cutting back on the discard, n focusing more on slamming an ad naseum with my thicc health stack seems pretty fun
I just looked into building some sort of Angels Tribal EDH and got into the lore! So cool to see her! (Only had to wait 2 weeks to find out her name...feels like when I started Song of Fire and Ice after DwD came out haha)
3:50 She is also a 5/5 flyer with lifelink. So she can kill way faster while still gaining you life. I feel she has permanently moved Kambal to the 99 of what is now her deck. Once Kambal has died twice he starts to be very risky to waste a turn playing and hard to keep on the board, and you lose him as a viable win condition, while Liesa just can't be kept down. Also, as mentioned, Kambal is trash against creature-heavy decks, but Liesa works on everything and is frequently gonna swing in for an extra 5 damage. She also brings pay life synergy potential to the deck. Her inevitability makes her a nightmare compared to Kambal.
I'd be very tempted to run her as a lifegain commander. The problem being that I'm currently building Orah, Skyclave Hierophant as an aristocrats deck with a lifegain subtheme. I don't neeeed two orzhov lifegain decks. But do I waaaaant them.......
Empyrial Storm and Skull Storm benefit from Liesa's fixed mana cost. Since she could be played multiple times from the Command Zone to rack up the count. Skull Storm would be the best of the two.
Ok, I'm definitelty gonna build the four sisters, not necessarily in a deck, but one deck for each one, and when I have the time and playgroup I'will present this decks to them, and see if they want to play those
I am still extremely wary of this set as a whole as someone vaguely considering getting into Commander, especially given Partner in the past. That said, I am quite glad we both finally got the unknown sister and that Liesa seems open-ended enough to do quite a few different things with compared to a lot of other strong(er) commanders. It's also just nice to be able to tell what plane these new legendaries hail from unlike a lot of past Commander-birthed legendaries. In theory I guess the first Liesa deck would I do would be Enchantress, though that might get more expensive than I would personally like even with the recent reprint of Exquisite Blood. Shrug.
I'm actually quite excited for Liesa - more recently I've taken interest in Commanders that help speed up the game (recently built Obosh, been considering other Red decks) and Liesa fits that role to a T. Instead of using Lifegain as your win condition, it helps to leverage the self-inflicted life loss while punishing your opponents the more efficient their decks are. Removing her isn't a solution, either, because she always costs 5... And being a lifelinking flyer, she can get in there herself. At worst, she's a bit slow... But that's where Hatebears can come in. I'm not deciding what I'm building from Commander Legends for sure until the entire set is spoiled, but Liesa has my attention in the meantime.
I like Torbran for mono-red, but someone had a Neheb the Eternal deck that looked sick and Tomer had a Purphoros the Bronze-Blooded that was only about $125 in paper too.
@@johnbuscher Actually built the Purphoros deck a while back, when he did the original article. What I meant is that I like doing persistent damage - chipping away constantly, and then before people know it, you burst and they’re dead.
Oh my god I only just now figured out that Liesa *isn't* the Nameless Angel from Children of the Nameless... well, guess I'll just wait for the *next* long-awaited legendary Innistrad Angel
Wake me up when they make a new Ikoria set (Jokes aside Innistrad is my second favorite set due to my love for Bloodborne which has a lot of it's vibes in Innistrad)
Doesn’t seem to be optional, in this case though. Angel of Jubilation stops her from being cast from Command Zone more than once, but that’s a one-in-hundred silver bullet
very lackluster commander. No Build around pontial. You can pay the command tax with your life, so what? Why would you ever play a 5 Mana 5/5 flying lifelink beater as your commander? Her ability is only ever semi-relevant against storm decks. What a waste for the beautiful art
as cool as she is, i do not like how wizards is continually forcing more and more rules changes and tweaks on us with rules text on cards. Theyre encroaching on commander and its shady and dishonest
Eh. I think having custom cards with rule alterings are what really makes Magic come alive sometimes. Alternate win-cons are fun sometimes. But only sometimes.
I've been waiting for this sister for so long... I find it funny that she has the same name of a couple of a fanmade cards from 2016.
It's a good angel name, since it means "pledged to God", and it's also Germanic, which suits Innistrad perfectly.
Though it should probably be pronounced "lee-za" or "li-eza", depending on localization.
@@sofer2230 I can never unsee the name of LIESA, Liga das Escolas de Samba (Samba Schools' League, translating roughly), so she'll always remind me of Carnaval.
@@sofer2230 glad someone else said it..the name was soooo butchered in this video...
"Rather than pay 2 life, pay 2 life."
Excellent reading skills. Stroke 100.
Innistrad is probably my favourite plane. Shadows over Innistrad was my first set opened when returning to the game. I definitely wanna try out an Orzhov Innistrad Theme with her, with Sorin and his vampires. There's a lot id like to do, just gotta hope I can do it.
I love Innistrad, too. 💜
so for commander clash your gonna do a 4 sisters week right?
Oh boy, GW, UW, RW and now BW. Didn't realize that. That would make a super cool episode.
@@shammerHammer You walk a path of wisdom. :3
Though, wouldn't it be a better game if Four Sisters face off against an archenemy Avacyn?
@@Cyberium That could also be fun, but Bruna and Gisela never turned against Avacyn since all three of them fell into madness at the same time if for possibly differing reasons.
@@MusicoftheDamned Alt-universe scenario. :3
1:41 'Rather than pay 2 life for each previous time..... you may pay 2 life instead' you said life instead of mana on the first part, but all in all, rather interesting
whoopsie I meant mana!
Worth noting it's not a may ability, so angel of jubilation makes her literally unplayable, I believe.
@@GiovanniBoss Oof! I didn’t see that it wasn’t optional
@@GiovanniBoss Holy shit good catch. I didn't even notice that
Ooo, Orzhov countdown. A life gain deck with a mass life tax theme, including life altering effects like Soul Conduit and Tree of Perdition, mass ping effects like Pestilence and Last Laugh, and Tainted Sigil as a secret tech.
Honestly the commander I've been wanting since I got into the format a year and a half ago with Ayli. I do absolutely love me some aristocrats strategies, but the lifegain-control is what I've always wanted to focus on.
Strangest thing about her first ability is that it isn't optional: You *have* to pay the commander tax as life rather than mana.
Definitely going for the life gain approach, personally, while also taking advantage of her "Derevi-but-fair" quality with stuff like Skull Storm, Tome of Legends, Empyreal Storm, possibly Opal Palace and Commander's Insignia. And of course Font of Agonies is a must.
It's say first word of the text, "Rather" than paying (2) mana, pay 2 life instead. YOU CAN CHOOSE
@@Croltown There is no "may" in that. So you can't choose.
It made me happy to see you nerd out about this character finally getting a card as much as I was. There are literally dozens of us.
This is so much more interesting than the version of her that was leaked. Can't wait to make a life gain deck around liesa
Oh I'm excited! I ran an RPG a few years ago in the Innistrad setting and used "my" Lesia as the big player in the game. Since there was almost no lore she was fresh but still strongly tied to the setting.
seems like a nice commander to add white to my Rankle deck. i think i've lost enough friends playing it so adding white, cutting back on the discard, n focusing more on slamming an ad naseum with my thicc health stack seems pretty fun
I'm certainly building her!
I'll probably put some soft stax cards too like Rule of Law and Painful Quandary too.
The stained glass wings in the background are actually on Gift of Orzhova, i.a. not an Innistrad card. I love them anyway.
Can't wait to see your budget deck for her!
I just looked into building some sort of Angels Tribal EDH and got into the lore! So cool to see her!
(Only had to wait 2 weeks to find out her name...feels like when I started Song of Fire and Ice after DwD came out haha)
Desolation Angel is your friend. :3
@1:39 Rather than paying 2 life, I can pay 2 life instead?
WHAT A DEAL!
And that‘s a great price!
Enjoy your thoughts tomer! This definitely is exciting. I can’t wait to see what they do with the rest of the set
As someone who plays Selenia, Liesa is up my alley
I'm a big fan of this design, hope to pick one for draft and pain people!
Nice soundtrack choice rystic studies used it for the one with nothing video
Leisa is new to me! The cycle I never knew was incomplete is now complete!
This is going in my Edgar Markov deck alongside Avacyn, Sorin and Gisela.
Would love to see Tomer's builds for any of the new commanders
Now this is a lifegain commander that excites me!
I’ve waited so long... my life is complete.... So beautiful....
3:50 She is also a 5/5 flyer with lifelink. So she can kill way faster while still gaining you life.
I feel she has permanently moved Kambal to the 99 of what is now her deck. Once Kambal has died twice he starts to be very risky to waste a turn playing and hard to keep on the board, and you lose him as a viable win condition, while Liesa just can't be kept down. Also, as mentioned, Kambal is trash against creature-heavy decks, but Liesa works on everything and is frequently gonna swing in for an extra 5 damage. She also brings pay life synergy potential to the deck. Her inevitability makes her a nightmare compared to Kambal.
Wait does yasharn just stop liesa from being cast?
I'd be very tempted to run her as a lifegain commander.
The problem being that I'm currently building Orah, Skyclave Hierophant as an aristocrats deck with a lifegain subtheme.
I don't neeeed two orzhov lifegain decks. But do I waaaaant them.......
Empyrial Storm and Skull Storm benefit from Liesa's fixed mana cost. Since she could be played multiple times from the Command Zone to rack up the count.
Skull Storm would be the best of the two.
Ok, I'm definitelty gonna build the four sisters, not necessarily in a deck, but one deck for each one, and when I have the time and playgroup I'will present this decks to them, and see if they want to play those
I'm excited for her personally!
I am still extremely wary of this set as a whole as someone vaguely considering getting into Commander, especially given Partner in the past. That said, I am quite glad we both finally got the unknown sister and that Liesa seems open-ended enough to do quite a few different things with compared to a lot of other strong(er) commanders. It's also just nice to be able to tell what plane these new legendaries hail from unlike a lot of past Commander-birthed legendaries.
In theory I guess the first Liesa deck would I do would be Enchantress, though that might get more expensive than I would personally like even with the recent reprint of Exquisite Blood. Shrug.
I have wanted to build an orzhov life deck like that for like 2 years guess im finally gonna actually do it
Group slug: i want to kill everyone quickly.
Literally everything except for group Hug: aint we all?
Pretty much make my Oloro 99 into hers, as I only use blue spells in the peripheral- Perhaps better focused that way
I have Sigarda, Gisela and Bruna in my Kathril deck. Just for flavour I’m gonna get her in it too but she actually doesn’t do anything for me.
I know I'm a bit late but could Liesa Be used as a creature and not a commander?
There's dozens of us! DOZENS!
Tomer you're a rockstar!!!
I'm actually making Orzhov Angels around her. Should be interesting by the time I'm done.
I'm actually quite excited for Liesa - more recently I've taken interest in Commanders that help speed up the game (recently built Obosh, been considering other Red decks) and Liesa fits that role to a T. Instead of using Lifegain as your win condition, it helps to leverage the self-inflicted life loss while punishing your opponents the more efficient their decks are. Removing her isn't a solution, either, because she always costs 5... And being a lifelinking flyer, she can get in there herself. At worst, she's a bit slow... But that's where Hatebears can come in.
I'm not deciding what I'm building from Commander Legends for sure until the entire set is spoiled, but Liesa has my attention in the meantime.
I like Torbran for mono-red, but someone had a Neheb the Eternal deck that looked sick and Tomer had a Purphoros the Bronze-Blooded that was only about $125 in paper too.
@@johnbuscher Actually built the Purphoros deck a while back, when he did the original article.
What I meant is that I like doing persistent damage - chipping away constantly, and then before people know it, you burst and they’re dead.
The circle is complete. Now my 5 color angel deck can become real
She may have been snuffed out by Avacyn, but at least she was spared from becoming an eldritch horror.
Oh my god I only just now figured out that Liesa *isn't* the Nameless Angel from Children of the Nameless... well, guess I'll just wait for the *next* long-awaited legendary Innistrad Angel
when i saw the card i thought of it as a kembal 2.0 for stax decks rather than life gain or life loss tbh.
I think she'd make a great Voltron subtheme so long as you can get her to 7 power. Also slap in a wound reflection and baby, you've got a stew going
Having lost my last 2 life, due her ability:
"You're tearing me apart, Leisa!"
Liesa is THE orzhov commander i would no doubt play with.
I know it's an easy way to get targeted, but Liesa seems really good as a Death and Taxes Commander
I run life link and mass tap out with sanguine bond blood vito and other asshole cards.
I have heard others say Liesa with a HARD 'e' in the pronounced name. Just saw your Twitter question.
Third?
Im making a lifegain angel deck out of liessa
Wake me up when they make a new Ikoria set (Jokes aside Innistrad is my second favorite set due to my love for Bloodborne which has a lot of it's vibes in Innistrad)
My darling Liesa ♥ 💖 ❤
I brewed her up as an extort deck!
Phyrexian commander tax?
Those fools went & did it! (kinda)
Doesn’t seem to be optional, in this case though. Angel of Jubilation stops her from being cast from Command Zone more than once, but that’s a one-in-hundred silver bullet
The commander wold shll know pain.
Ah I seem to be the first
Second :3
I've been wanting to see "The fourth Sister" for years and honestly, I'm a bit disappointed. Still probably gonna brew a deck for her though.
White black zo-zu, I’m in
very lackluster commander. No Build around pontial. You can pay the command tax with your life, so what? Why would you ever play a 5 Mana 5/5 flying lifelink beater as your commander? Her ability is only ever semi-relevant against storm decks. What a waste for the beautiful art
as cool as she is, i do not like how wizards is continually forcing more and more rules changes and tweaks on us with rules text on cards. Theyre encroaching on commander and its shady and dishonest
Eh. I think having custom cards with rule alterings are what really makes Magic come alive sometimes. Alternate win-cons are fun sometimes. But only sometimes.