🌟 FLEET FRIDAY 🌟 FDNY HOOK & LADDER 20 ~ TRACTOR DRAWN AERIAL ~ TILLER
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- FDNY Hook & Ladder 20 is a 2013 Seagrave Attacker HD 100' Tractor Drawn Aerial stationed in Manhattan. Ladder 20 is also known as a Tiller which helps them maneuver into tight and narrow streets that a Rear mount Ladder may not be able to, by keeping the 100' aerial. Just like every other Ladder company in the FDNY, Ladder 20 is staffed with a Officer and 4-5 Firefighters. (Chauffeur, Roof, Irons and OV which would be the Tillermen) All Ladder companies strictly do truck duties. They respond to all sorts of calls from Elevators to Subway Emergencies and from MVAs to Fires. Each FDNY Ladder Company has extrication Equipment, Air Bags, Forcible Entry Tools, Hydra Ram, Pike Poles, Hooks, Ground Ladders, Torch, EMS Equipment, Stokes, FAST Pak, Pak Tracker, Saws, Drills, Hand Tools.
The First Arriving Ladder is to always try to be Infront of the building when possible and operates on the fire floor, the chauffeur of the ladder most of the time stays at the pedestal. The 2nd Ladder will arrive and be behind the 1st due ladder ad less a better positioning point is found. The 2nd Ladder company will operate on the floors above the fire checking for extension, searching for victims checking stairs and hallways and then venting. The 3rd arriving ladder is the FAST Truck and is suppose to park outside of the fire area with exceptions. The FAST Truck is "Firefighting Assist and Search Team" They are ready at the command post if a firefighter may be in distress or missing they are activated. They provide immediate assistance to any firefighters in danger and rescue them if missing, lost or trapped, a Rescue Company and Squad Company will also assist in this.
Tillers just like Straight Sticks re equipped with hose for a ladder pipe operation. FDNY does not have pre pipped ladders, the reason for that is it will raise the height of all trucks. Another reason is it’s much safer to use a Tower Ladder. It is very rare to see a ladder pipe operation in the FDNY. Ladder 20 did use one in a fire in Chinatown.
There is 13 Tillers in the FDNY throughout the City (A few will be added in the coming years changing from straight sticks to Tillers)
Manhattan
L5 L6 L20 L34 L40
Brooklyn
L101 L104 L106 L118 L147 L175
Bronx
L39
Queens
L143
Staten Island
None
Ladder 20 responds to around 1,700 calls a year
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Tiller 20 is a beautiful remarkable apparatus. Seagrave used to make some beautiful equipment. Thanks Skyler!
You bet!
Why used to?
@@MB12116 Because Pierce knocked e-one and Seagrave out of the game
@@palletwizard means the FDNY doesn’t purchase Seagrave tillers anymore or did Seagrave stop producing them🤔 @SkylerFire great fleet videos 👍👍thank you very much for sharing them!!!
@noemsff4067 thanks
as an ex uk fire fighter, i find this fleet friday every week, BRILLIANT, please keep them coming :)
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Captain Serra, Lt. Wilson. Hell's 100 Acres! Hell yeah!
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Have you read the Captains book, " Finding John" it's a great read that puts you in his boots.
This is one of my favourite firetruck models
Awesome
@@SkylerFire Does it able to move sideways like a crab? I have a toy model of it and when I put the front and back wheels the same turning position it does a crab like movement
@@Jamie-2307 probably
And they're fun to operate... especially the Tillerman position. Early in the Tractor Drawn -Tiller Drive apparatus development, the Tillerman were chosen from non-licensed drivers because motor vehicle operators tended to turn with the tractor instead of opposite.
Hahaha
Great video like how you talk about every part on the truck 👍🏽👍🏽
I try thanks
Great video. 1st time I’ve ever seen a ladder pipe on a FDNY truck in probably 30+ yrs
All FDNY ladders have hose for ladder pipe.
Nice!👍🏻 love Ladder 20!🚒
Your amazing and god bless you ❤👼🙏🏾👼🏾🙂✝️😇
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@@SkylerFire your welcome
Excellent video Skyler. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
One of my favorite fire apparatuses along with squads and ladders.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Love the tillers. Seattle has a fleet of all tillers, we love them.
Awesome!
Tiller 20 looks nice! I heard Ladder 169 in Brooklyn is getting converted from Rearmount to Tiller Ladder, Due to having tighter street.
Yup thanks
Great video Skyler! Love fleet Friday videos. So educational. Thanks
Glad you like them!
awesome video on the fdny tiller ladder 20
Thanks!
Thank You !!! Love the fleet Fridays.
Thanks
Love the fleet fridays thanks for the content
Glad you like them!
I hired on my career dept in 95’. We still had one 1975 Seagrave tiller. It was gone the next year and we got 2 quints. Then 4 more quints! I HATED those stupid quints. Especially ran like an engine company. We got a new tiller right before I moved on to another dept. Thanks Skyler!
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Beautiful rig. Love the old school extrication equipment.
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Thanks for a very informative video. Great to see ya!!
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Awesome Fleet Friday. That is such an amazing ladder truck. Thanks Skyler...🤗🤗
It sure is!
Love visiting the guys whenever I have to go upstairs for a physical
Hahaha
...and that's how it's done!
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Great Clip ! Thank You for posting !
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice rig Skyler, thanks.
Thanks
Great job,Skyler!!!
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Great video skyler I’ve always had a soft spot for tiller rigs. Definitely something we don’t see in the uk
Absolutely! Thanks for watching
Thank you so much Skyler! Really Cool!
I'm glad you like it
@@SkylerFire👍
when i was there last year sadly the Rebreather wasnt in the station had a great tour from the probie at the station
They go out everyday for training. I have a video of rebreather I’ll post soon
Absolutley fantastic insight into these fantastic machines, I am really facinated the way they drive, a very extensive kit on board, really great video. Thanks Mate, stay safe
Thanks
Outstanding thank you for fleet videos
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very informative greetings from frankfurt germany!
Excellent video ...no Department like the New York Fire Department, the best in courage...love the dashboard controls-eject-fire missile- panic
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Now I know what a tiller does. Thanks, Skyler
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Great stuff!
Thanks!
nice work on the vid Skyler, ladder rigs are a cool piece of apparatus and $$$$$
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Great video as always. They are very informative. I look forward to fleet Fridays. Happy Thanksgiving.
Thanks!
Thanks for your job i love the concept of FLEET FRIDAY! In the future, do you think you could do something along the same lines, with a visit of differents fdny firehouse in a short video? See how the guys live. :)
Videos are not permitted inside FDNY firehouses
I like FLEET FRIDAY! I’d like ti for every FDNY unit!
Hahah thanks for watching
Great addition to the Fleet Friday lineup. I didn’t know they stocked so much stuff on a truck. Ladders, saws, Sorbol, salt, tire chains, and such I would expect but ladder 20 is equipped for so much more. Good thinking at the FDNY. But who would expect less?
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Happy friday to all fireman vist responder's
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When is this getting replaced love the tda thank you be safe
Year and a half out. They are making them now
Have not seen FDNY use a ladder pipe for many years. They were used quite a bit in the early 60s and before and the advent of the tower ladder and its pre pipe water way. But all trucks still carry them.
Yes thanks
This was a great video I am surprised at the amount of equipment that the tiller can carry.
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Awesome video! I’ll never forget getting a tour of Ladder 6’s spare tiller when I visited New York. Do you know which ladder companies will be switching to tillers or when FDNY is expected to receive new tillers?
Year out or so. L151 and L169 for now
Good afternoon from the Great State of Texas. Being a retired firefighter myself, I still enjoy the fleet Friday video's. My question I do have, is what is the purpose of the vise grips of the circular saw? I have never seen this. Thank you and have a wonderful day.
It’s to hold padlocks 🔓 so they can cut them
Thanks again,Skyler for bringing another Fleet Friday,and correct me if I am wrong, was Seagrave the first company to come out with a tiller?BTW,Happy Thanksgiving to you and the members of the FDNY.😊😊😊
Thanks for watching! I am not 100% on that!
I love all the Fleet Fridays! Not just going over the rigs but the tools and the operations of the company is really fascinating.
Question, the station appears to be four stories. Is the entire building a fire station or are there apartments on the floors above? What is all the space used for if it’s only one-ish company housed there?
Great job videos again, they’re the highlight of my Fridays!
Thanks! Glad you enjoy it! Fire station 1st Floor. 2nd Floor is the Division Chiefs. 3rd and 4th floor is one of the Fire Marshals Offices and Counseling Unit.
Question, since Tillers are a trailer I assume hooked to a 5th wheel are there spares in case of mechanical issues? and are all the Tillers interchangeable with one another? I would assume they are all built the same to work with any tractor. Big fan of Tillers and they are a MUST HAVE for NYC. Great Video
FDNY does not switch the tractors. They have 1 Spare Tiller and 1 Training Tiller at the Rock. If they don’t have a spare tiller they will use a regular spare ladder.
You mentioned there are plans to add more tillers?
Yes L169 L151 are the confirmed ones at the moment
Skyler, what does OB mean? Thanks for these great Fleet Friday looks at FDNY apparatus.
OV is the Outside Vent Firefighter.
I lob the series! Could you consider doing an episode on the FDNY EMS Units?
Thanks. We will see!
Another FANTASTIC FLEET FRIDAY!! All the information/particulars you provide is much appreciated. Thank you Skyler.
Thanks for watching
SOHO TRUCKING, Ladder 20,
Turn of last century this response district was run down tenements and row houses, busiest fire district in NYC, known as HELL'S HUNDRED ACRES...
In the tiller cab, please explain what EJECT, FIRE MISSLE, and PANIC is. It looks like fake buttons, but it caught my eye. Also, what types of things are being communicated with the tillerman and chauffeur?
It’s a joke…. They talk to communicate when they are turning and when to stop and go…
What are the Eject..Fire Missile..And the Panic buttons in the Tiller man cab do?
Inside Joke! Thanks for watching!
@@SkylerFire I’m glad I caught that Easter Egg! Can’t wait to find the next one. You remember the last one I found with the Rescue Boat!
Great video once again. Quick question, wis an "OB Firefighter"? I might be saying it but that what it sounds like.
Thanks.
OV is the Outside Vent Firefighter.
Nice video of a tiller. Since you have done a vid of a 95 ft tower ladder are there plans on a 75 ft tl or just doing the one?
So adless the tower ladder is special you really won’t see anything, else.
You said FDNY is adding more TDAs, do you know how many and where will they be assigned? Thanks, love the Fleet Friday.
Yes they will be adding more. So far L169 and L151 are getting them more throughout the years
You said "soon to be more tillers added"... Are members saying some non-tiller companies are converting to tillers??
L151 L169 are turning into tillers. Possible more
@SkylerFire That's very cool news! Thanks for the info and thanks for the video. I've been looking forward to a tiller for Fleet Friday!
@@halo2markvi thanks for watching
Are they going back to tillers because of versatility issues or mobility issues? Or both? I really enjoy your videos, nice to see how they do things “Downstate”.
Both for mobility
Was sad when I heard bout miss twenty a few years ago Did you get to meet tank when you were there?
😊👍
Thanks
My dad was a LT in ladder company 6 from 2005 to 2019. Tillers are defiantly needed around that area especially little Italy. You know what straight stick are turning into tillers?
L151 L169 so far
Years ago Ladder 151 used the Tiller truck so did Ladder 173 In Howard Beach.@@SkylerFire
Great video. I’ve read Ladder 169 will get a tiller soon. Do you know which other ladder co’s will be converted to tillers ?
L169 & L151 for now. Still prob a year out or so
Cool thanks. I remember seeing Ladder 151’s old tiller around Jamaica on multi alarm jobs when I was kid.
10ft 10 inches.... built to fit the house
All Engines, Ladders, Tower Ladders, Tillers are 10' 10"
You stated the FDNY is getting additional tillers. Are they replacing other forms of aerials in the department or just replacing current tillers?
Adding more tillers replacing sticks
@@SkylerFire Does a tiller require an extra guy be assigned to the truck?
In a situation, does the firefight ride up with the ladder, or do they climb the ladder once the ladder is in position?
They will always climb up the ladder.
One question I have, in regards to their training, is do they train on another company's reserve truck,or does the academy have their own rig outside the FDNY that they train on and apply to the FDNY tiller rigs?
They have a training tiller at the fire academy. But they do take this rig also. They also have driving simulator
@@SkylerFire Thanks,Merry Christmas to you and yours
What are the EJECT FIRE MISSLE PANIC buttons for in the tiller cab ?
It’s a joke
Anyone know what that key pad was when he was in the chauffeurs seat? And was that a small printer at 12:46 for officers seat?
Key pad is so the rig can’t be stolen. Code has to be put in to move it. Printer is for the ticket of the calls
Question, I seen FAJ tillers are on order to replace the older units, but you said adding more so the fdny is planning to expand the number from 13?
L151 L169… possible more
Oh ok cool, is because how the city has been redesigning some of the city streets, making them more narrow and adding the protected bike lanes, I’ve seen a few years back they did a story on how they’re adding bike lanes without consulting the FDNY making it harder for apparatuses to turn.
@@paggs2216 yes for sure
Tillers Rule! I guess you have to be a little dyslexic to be a tiller operator. A old school type ladder with all the new tools. Skyler, were there more tiller years ago, before the rear mounts ladders?
Hahaha yes! At one time most ladders were tillers!
Tiller "trucks" go all the way back to the days of hand-drawn wagons...when the ladders were wooden and longer than the bed section is now. Most of the company (and later, horses) pulled the tow ropes and the front steering axle followed. The "tiller man" guided the rear wheels around tight corners with a beam connected to the rear axle sticking out from the rear of the ladder wagon, similar to the tow handle of a child's red wagon. I believe that following steering beam is where the term "tiller" originated.
When horses and extension ladders arrived the tiller man moved to a removable seat and steering wheel atop the rig.
One thing that might make this better, is if FDNY would allow a camera on the tiller position, to show how it looks from that position
I believe I have seen a TH-cam video or two of tiller views responding in NYC.
Yeah can’t do that sorry! Thanks for watching tho
FLEET FRIDAY FDNY HOOK AND LADDER 20- TRACTOR DRAWN AERIAL....
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Probably a very obvious answer; understanding these rigs, outside of the buckets, are pre-piped, is that due to the fact it would be difficult for the water to be pumped that high up, the length of the stick, or it would be that the City would require the length to be higher, to better cover building fires?
Tower Ladders are safer to use for defensive operations then using a Ladder / Tiller. FDNY will only use ladder pipe in a rare instance.
When did 20 change from the soho trucking company to hells hundred acres??
Always been both. Hells hundred acres has been for over 10 years for sure
Holy cow just shows how long I’ve been away from the area. 20’s has been my favorite co. Since I discovered the website fdny trucks when I was in college
Damn only 13 tillers? Why? We have 20 in the tiny city of San Francisco. All of our trucks are tillers tho 100 percent. We run nothing else … actually just got 2 brand new Ferrara TDA’s
Trucks got bigger firehouses can’t fit in all. Tower ladders are important here
Do you know which companies will be getting tillers?
L151 & L169 will be turning into tillers possible more
ty!@@SkylerFire
Also, how come you guys do not put plates under the jacks?
It’s not required under the jacks ad less it’s not level or over grass. The new rearmounts require the jack pads as the whole jack was changed from square to round.
Great video.
Thanks!
In the beginning, you said soon to be more, are they going to be ordering new tillers??
I believe 8 tillers are on order… a couple sticks are turning into tillers L151 L169 so far
@@SkylerFire Oh that’s awesome! I’m assuming they are sticking with Seagrave?
@middlesexcountyfirebuffs yes looking like Seagrave for everything now
Also, figuring you would know better than me; I read about the building units, coming across a "DRAKE," unit, wondering if it was named after the area, called Drakes?
Not sure what that is
@@SkylerFire I copy; awesome video, as always.
Thanks
What is the bottle jack in the cab for?
Man unders Subway calls
When is ladder 20 supposed to get a new tiller?
Year and half or so
Hells hundred acres
Yup
Are there any tandem tiller rigs?
No
Who’s the fire dog
Tank
¿Que ventajas tiene usar este tipo de vehículos articulados respecto a otras escaleras rigidas?, ¿Tiene mas altura la escalera?, ¿Transporta mas material?, ¿Tradición?. Un saludo y gracias.
Maneuverability.
Can you please do an FDNY EMS rig and the haz tech ems rigs they have?
No plans right now. Maybe after I finish FD side
Do the FDNY have head sets for each member for noise reduction. ? (Engine & Ladder & Rescue.)
No they don't, I think FDNY might be the only department to not use headsets at all.
No they do not
Great video. OV? Firefighter.
Outside Vent. The OV’s main job is to vent the fire from the outside while the engine company extinguishes the fire from the inside. Venting the fire allows the heat and smoke to escape and allows the engine company to make an easier “push” into the fire area. Sounds simple right? Well, it does actually get quite a bit more complicated than that.
The role of the OV should be fulfilled by an experienced firefighter mainly because this position is not under the direct supervision of an officer and is tasked with some important responsibilities as well as decisions to make such as…
The ability to read fire as well as smoke conditions. The ability to determine when the appropriate time to vent is. The ability to determine when VES will be required. Can you determine the layout of the inside of a private dwelling by looking at the windows? If you need to VES a bedroom which window do you enter?
These are just some of the decisions that an OV will have to make during a fire. It is worth mentioning again, that this position should be filled by an experienced firefighter. An inexperienced firefighter put into this position making the wrong decisions could have catastrophic results.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Thanks
No Q on L20? @skylerfire
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Whose getting new Tillers and whose getting tillers who haven't had before? @skylerfire
All 2013 tillers and L151 and L169 for now