I'm surprised nobody seems to have come out with a relatively inexpensive bike with digital magnetic resistance and the ability to do simple programs (such as HIIT, and HR-based programs) without a subscription.
@@TailHappyTV Thanks, that's good to know. Looked to me like one has to choose between knobs, fall-back controls like ProForm, or a subscription. I found your video because I was wondering if the ProForm would work satisfactorily for HIIT and/or HR-based without subscription. Maybe there are some search terms I could have used? I did see someone else comment on the Schwinn A10. I'm looking into that and/or similar bikes.
I bought this bike after viewing this review along with some other clips. After a few rides, I soon realised this annoying iFit low resistance bug - a lot of the workout has a resistance of 1-3 which is a joke, or max 7 resistance for the most intensive workout. I am fairly confident this was a iFit program issue where the resistance has not been calibrated properly for this bike as the bike’s max resistance is 16. I am gutted that I did not see those discussions before my purchase and have not seen any TH-cam video highlighting such an annoying bug which greatly reduce the usability of this bike. Although in theory this can be addressed by a software update fairly easily, there have been several months since people reported this issue to iFit and proform. So my hope for a quick fix is not high. Again, this is really annoying and disappointing for an otherwise excellent bike.
Hello, I'm just wondering if there are any improvements to the low resistance problem. i agree reading the reviews that this seems to be a major issue that significantly impacts compatibility with the auto-adjust resistance features in ifit app. It would be great to hear if the issue has been addressed?
I have that bike. Weigh 240 lbs. Weak knees. Level 16 resitance is plenty for me. I like the smooth quiet operation. When pairing the bike you must make sure that your not pedaling it. It won't pair if you do. I had to call support to figure out why I couldn't pair. If you need more than level 16, Costco also sells an up version of this that goes to level 22 and costs $999.
Great video thanks for this! I know the live class didn’t have music did the other classes have music? Lol I know it’s not a big thing just the music pumps me up a little more possibly buying this now haha but thanks for such a detailed review!
I am new to indoor cycling and I am looking at buying a bike under $600. I think your reviews are awesome. I am so glad I found you. Can you give me a recommendation? I am 6’ 225 lbs and I am pretty much a beginner but like the idea of using my iPad. Any help is much appreciated . Glad I found your channel. Keep up the awesome videos
Glad to help! Watch my next video, i think it will be a relevant comparison for you! there are a lot of great options and its hard to tell you which is best for you. You may like the echelon connect, which i have videos on that bike as well. the Sunny bike does have better max resistance however, which may be better suited for you.
Thanks so much for this video it is very helpful. I have been trying to figure out how to be able to raise the resistance level in IFit when the tablet is sitting over the manual resistance buttons on the Pro Form Tour de France. You figured it out in your video. Also that you showed that you can override the resistance levels the instructor has preset in the video. Very important, because of all the different levels of riders using this. Thanks!
I just bought this used. It only goes up to resistance 16, is that accurate? If I try to go higher, the screen says “CHO”. Maybe the resistance level is why the person sold it to me… great video btw.
I bought my bike used, so It didn't come with manual. I've been ridding for a few weeks , it feels good even though I'm weighing in at 400. It doesn't feel like it's going to fall apart. I think I will get much use out of it now thanks for your videos
A fair review for the first look. Re changing the resistance, in. a bike ride there is a scale from 1-16. Move the slider to whatever resistance you want. An unanswered question is if I'm on a ride and the resistance is say 4 and manually moved it to 8 with the slider, and then the ride called for the resistance to be say 3, would it then auto move the resistance down one unit to 7 or would it auto move to 3 as per the program?
It has music on both, you can control if you want to hear music or just the instructor or both. He didn't figure this out on the video. But that is a cool feature on the app.
Thanks for this video too after the assembly video. Just purchased; appears the settings and functions will work just for what I'm looking for. Appreciate your commentary on how IFit works too.
Thanks for the videos. Bought the cycle, made the max resistance mod, and am very happy with it. I'm not happy with some of the metrics from the app. The calorie burn is not even close. I've attached a cadence sensor and speed sensor and used the speed from the app to calibrate the setting for my speed sensor. Do you know how accurate the speed is in the app?
Can you do a ride that’s not a class?? Where you just get on and paddle and do everything manually. If so, and your just hell bent on using the Peloton App you can split screen it with the iPad. Have 2/3 screen Peloton app and 1/3 iFit which should be enough to move the resistance slider.
There is a hack here on TH-cam to increase resistance, it doesn't change it a ton but it does help if you're not satisfied with the resistance. It's I minor mechanical adjustment.
Love the vid! Really helped me narrowed down my purchase as a first time rider. Picked up my ProForm Tour de France today and we love it! Question, which tablet are you using? Thx
Good review. I unfortunately couldn't get to a class, did one track course through the app then the console has not turned on. I'm not sure if this is because I tried to update the console through the app, but I checked all wiring and batteries and am now going to return this...
Same here I just got this bike yesterday and I am having the exact same resistance issue I can put it at 16 it will stay there for a few seconds and then go to 1. Did you fix this issue? If so how?
I can't adjust de proform automatic resistance manually, does it could be that the panel is damage or there is anoche way to adjust it manually, that I don't have to use de panel?
Thanks Michael! Have you ever tried a class in a studio, I was a skeptic at first myself, but I have to admit I like it more than I thought I would even though I still do love my regular outdoor rides along the beach path in LA, however it's starting to get chilly lately
@@charlesgarrity3059 I dont have that specific rule but makes a lot of sense. Blocking the cold wind from my ears and face makes a huge difference, and also sunny vs overcast. Big part of why I moved to socal from midwest :)
Got my wife this bike.She put it together got the error.She followed the reset procedure did not work.I took the wiring connectors apart and checked them.Very small pins.All looked good.I found the one at the servo motor not fully connected.It works great now
Of course, but none of the metrics will be recorded, you just go full screen and pedal at your own pace. I just bought one of these for Christmas. It's freaking awesome.
Thanks for the review :) I just ordered the same in Australia! Do you know please if you don't want to continue the membership after a year, can you use Ifit in a free manual mode to control the resistance ? Thanks!
Will this connect to anything else like zwift for instance? How is it sending the data to the app? I guess it’s Bluetooth but wonder if it’s sending separate data channels for cadence and speed etc.
Does anyone know if there are any Ifit rides that actually go over resistance level 7? I mean I'm a middle aged overweight man and these level 4 resistance rides are a joke. I can't even get my heart rate over 100 with them. This bike is awesome for the price imo, but it won't work for me if I feel like I'm out for a leisurely ride around a flat lake while my trainer is going up a mountain.
This is a major flaw in this app/bike combination. It should be the first thing written in any review. The answer to your question is NO. The app doesn't send the correct data for this bike so max is 6 or 7. You will have to increase the resistance about that manually.
I just bought and set up the bike yesterday- I too struggled woth the idea of the tablet being in the way if I wanted to control resistance- and voila! You figured it out - I am happy! Plus, I dont have to wait for 12 weeks to get a peloton!!!
AND you don't have to come up with another $2000 as well. So much motivation with the interplay with a trainer verse the simple monochrome screen. Of course, you need an iPad to access the Pro Form App which is an extra cost IF you don't have the iPad.
My watts hit a max of 236 when doing sprint intervals. Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? Not sure if this is a bike problem or a iFit problem.
Some do have some music but it's not popular music like you'll experience on peloton. Our iPad is 12.9 inches, it's a few years old model, I think I have a link to it and other stuff we use on my Echelon review th-cam.com/video/mGli1yXVC7c/w-d-xo.html
Only difference is the tablet holder on the CBC and none on the CLC. The front wheels to move it around is bigger on the CLC, like inline skate wheels. But other than that they are identical.
this is the #1 best seller on amazon: amzn.to/36WNdai please watch my fav bike seat video: th-cam.com/video/ugOrCIzrpjk/w-d-xo.html i share a lot of insight on saddles here, i've tried A LOT of bike seats over the years and for years i thought a squishy, or a wider seat was the solution, and while a squishy seat can provide temporary relief from pain, i really dont think its the long term answer. hope this helps, happy riding!
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0:00 start
2:26 digital resistance demo
3:48 resistance knob
4:38 connecting iFit
6:04 iFit tour
6:41 Leaderboard
7:05 more iFit tour
9:56 leaderboard metrics
11:11 physical buttons
13:26 adjusting resistance on screen
16:30 live ride
18:38 final thoughts
I'm surprised nobody seems to have come out with a relatively inexpensive bike with digital magnetic resistance and the ability to do simple programs (such as HIIT, and HR-based programs) without a subscription.
@@CarbageMan there are many many many options
@@TailHappyTV Thanks, that's good to know. Looked to me like one has to choose between knobs, fall-back controls like ProForm, or a subscription. I found your video because I was wondering if the ProForm would work satisfactorily for HIIT and/or HR-based without subscription. Maybe there are some search terms I could have used? I did see someone else comment on the Schwinn A10. I'm looking into that and/or similar bikes.
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I bought this bike after viewing this review along with some other clips. After a few rides, I soon realised this annoying iFit low resistance bug - a lot of the workout has a resistance of 1-3 which is a joke, or max 7 resistance for the most intensive workout. I am fairly confident this was a iFit program issue where the resistance has not been calibrated properly for this bike as the bike’s max resistance is 16. I am gutted that I did not see those discussions before my purchase and have not seen any TH-cam video highlighting such an annoying bug which greatly reduce the usability of this bike. Although in theory this can be addressed by a software update fairly easily, there have been several months since people reported this issue to iFit and proform. So my hope for a quick fix is not high. Again, this is really annoying and disappointing for an otherwise excellent bike.
Hello, I'm just wondering if there are any improvements to the low resistance problem. i agree reading the reviews that this seems to be a major issue that significantly impacts compatibility with the auto-adjust resistance features in ifit app. It would be great to hear if the issue has been addressed?
Yep, same issue. Very disappointing.
Did they get an update out?
I have that bike. Weigh 240 lbs. Weak knees. Level 16 resitance is plenty for me. I like the smooth quiet operation. When pairing the bike you must make sure that your not pedaling it. It won't pair if you do. I had to call support to figure out why I couldn't pair. If you need more than level 16, Costco also sells an up version of this that goes to level 22 and costs $999.
Great video thanks for this! I know the live class didn’t have music did the other classes have music? Lol I know it’s not a big thing just the music pumps me up a little more possibly buying this now haha but thanks for such a detailed review!
I am new to indoor cycling and I am looking at buying a bike under $600. I think your reviews are awesome. I am so glad I found you. Can you give me a recommendation? I am 6’ 225 lbs and I am pretty much a beginner but like the idea of using my iPad. Any help is much appreciated . Glad I found your channel. Keep up the awesome videos
Glad to help! Watch my next video, i think it will be a relevant comparison for you! there are a lot of great options and its hard to tell you which is best for you. You may like the echelon connect, which i have videos on that bike as well. the Sunny bike does have better max resistance however, which may be better suited for you.
Thanks so much for this video it is very helpful. I have been trying to figure out how to be able to raise the resistance level in IFit when the tablet is sitting over the manual resistance buttons on the Pro Form Tour de France. You figured it out in your video. Also that you showed that you can override the resistance levels the instructor has preset in the video. Very important, because of all the different levels of riders using this. Thanks!
I just bought this used. It only goes up to resistance 16, is that accurate? If I try to go higher, the screen says “CHO”. Maybe the resistance level is why the person sold it to me… great video btw.
Amazing review thanks so much.
I also have a formal review on this bike with a tail happy score given
I bought my bike used, so It didn't come with manual. I've been ridding for a few weeks , it feels good even though I'm weighing in at 400. It doesn't feel like it's going to fall apart. I think I will get much use out of it now thanks for your videos
The credit card part on ifit is no longer optional 😞
Press and hold down the IFit button for 30+ seconds. This should allow manual mode to be engaged👍
A fair review for the first look. Re changing the resistance, in. a bike ride there is a scale from 1-16. Move the slider to whatever resistance you want. An unanswered question is if I'm on a ride and the resistance is say 4 and manually moved it to 8 with the slider, and then the ride called for the resistance to be say 3, would it then auto move the resistance down one unit to 7 or would it auto move to 3 as per the program?
Almost bought one two days ago at Costco and seeing the setup video and now this I’m going back to buy today. Hopefully they are still in stock
I Just got the bike and I love your reviews. Is there a way for you adjust your resistance on a manual ride?
Sorry you can explain how I can do the free membership
Bought the Pro Form Tour de France. We like it. Is there a way to connect a Garmin heart rate monitor to it? Tried and didn't work.
How do I get monitor to work,it displays HALLO but nothing else?
Does the ifit have music during other workouts, and not during live work outs?
It has music on both, you can control if you want to hear music or just the instructor or both. He didn't figure this out on the video. But that is a cool feature on the app.
I really don’t care about the speed of the resistance control. It is fully functionally fast enough.
Can you use iPhone airplay?
I use my peloton on my Roku TV so that wouldn't be an issue as far as the resistance computer where it is.
Thanks for this video too after the assembly video. Just purchased; appears the settings and functions will work just for what I'm looking for. Appreciate your commentary on how IFit works too.
Thanks for the videos. Bought the cycle, made the max resistance mod, and am very happy with it. I'm not happy with some of the metrics from the app. The calorie burn is not even close. I've attached a cadence sensor and speed sensor and used the speed from the app to calibrate the setting for my speed sensor. Do you know how accurate the speed is in the app?
Please explain the max resistance mod you made. Thanks
I have a Scosche Rhythm+ heart rate monitor. Do I pair it to the bike, or the iPad app? I can't see my heart rate on the iFit metrics.
Can you do a ride that’s not a class?? Where you just get on and paddle and do everything manually. If so, and your just hell bent on using the Peloton App you can split screen it with the iPad. Have 2/3 screen Peloton app and 1/3 iFit which should be enough to move the resistance slider.
lol, genius thought on the screen split, will have to test this! and yes you can do free ride, manual, no class
You ca use google maps and set a ride anywhere you want
You can't split screen the Peloton app. I tried to do it with the Wahoo app. Neither of those apps supports it.
Where do you change batteries on pro form?
Anyone know if the ifit membership that comes with this one from costco is a family or individual? Their website doesn't say.
Family upto 5 people.
Be careful it will charge Family membership fee at 11th month.
I absolutely loved the whole video, well explained
Thank you so much!
Love from Honduras
Can you have multiple users in the app? (Say my wife and I?) Using the year free membership?
I just set mine up, and it’s a family membership that allows up to 5 people!
There is a hack here on TH-cam to increase resistance, it doesn't change it a ton but it does help if you're not satisfied with the resistance. It's I minor mechanical adjustment.
i think i may have made that video ;)
Didn't realize you made that video, thank you.
i just bought a schwinn a10 bike from amazon for 233.00 and it puts the Proform to shame
Will need to look into this one, did you get the proform as well?
Love the vid! Really helped me narrowed down my purchase as a first time rider. Picked up my ProForm Tour de France today and we love it! Question, which tablet are you using? Thx
Thanks for the review. I bought me one and I love it❤ I definitely don't care about the resistance😂 have a good one😊
Can you use the bike and automatic resistance programs without the iFit? just like a regular indoor bike?
We just bought the bike and have not been able to access the free membership without supplying the credit card information 🙄😤
Good review. I unfortunately couldn't get to a class, did one track course through the app then the console has not turned on. I'm not sure if this is because I tried to update the console through the app, but I checked all wiring and batteries and am now going to return this...
Hello, do you know what to do if the console stops working? I replaced the batteries, checked the reed cable, nothing works
Anyone else having trouble with keeping the resistance where you set it at? It’ll stay for about 8-15 secs and it’ll go back down to 1 :/
Same here I just got this bike yesterday and I am having the exact same resistance issue I can put it at 16 it will stay there for a few seconds and then go to 1. Did you fix this issue? If so how?
Same here....How do you fix that ?
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I can't adjust de proform automatic resistance manually, does it could be that the panel is damage or there is anoche way to adjust it manually, that I don't have to use de panel?
Hi, would Bike Mat recommendation you posted work for this bike in a small size?
Excellent review, thanks for sharing! I'm looking to get the new ProForm Studio 22.
Brilliant Review, thank you so much
Good review I cant see myself doing indoor because I would get bored no mater the equipment
Thanks Michael! Have you ever tried a class in a studio, I was a skeptic at first myself, but I have to admit I like it more than I thought I would even though I still do love my regular outdoor rides along the beach path in LA, however it's starting to get chilly lately
@@TailHappyTV My rule of thumb is no rides outside below 50 F. The wind chill factor on a bike going faster than 10 MPH is tough on the cheeks!
@@charlesgarrity3059 I dont have that specific rule but makes a lot of sense. Blocking the cold wind from my ears and face makes a huge difference, and also sunny vs overcast. Big part of why I moved to socal from midwest :)
I’m not expecting anyone to reply but can we put clip in pedals on this?
Yes
Can you do the resistant on manual mode? No class to attend.
Does anyone know if the Apple Watch connects to this app/bike?
You need a tablet for auto resistance to work? I tried to do it with my phone but it’s not workin
Fantastic review!!! Thank you so much!now we have to find it at Costco!
Hope you enjoy it!
@@TailHappyTV 3 in the store I bought one!!
Hi, after I complete a ride on my proform on ifit the elevation gain still shows 0ft. Has anyone come across this??
I can't get my console to adjust the resistance. I keep getting a ch1 reading. Can anyone help
Remove batteries then press any button for 20 secs that will reset to the lowest resistance level then reinstall batteries
Got my wife this bike.She put it together got the error.She followed the reset procedure did not work.I took the wiring connectors apart and checked them.Very small pins.All looked good.I found the one at the servo motor not fully connected.It works great now
This bike does work well with the Peloton app classes if you stream from your phone to your television.
I've always been interested in a digital leaderboard. Could someone use the ifit app on a road bike set on a trainer?
Of course, but none of the metrics will be recorded, you just go full screen and pedal at your own pace. I just bought one of these for Christmas. It's freaking awesome.
Thanks for the review :) I just ordered the same in Australia! Do you know please if you don't want to continue the membership after a year, can you use Ifit in a free manual mode to control the resistance ?
Thanks!
A lot of coaches talk about RPE and this bike does not show/give you that. Is there a way to tell RPE when all you know/have is RPM-Cadence?
Hey ! What's the size of the tablet please ? It's seems to fit perfectly
Does the pro form CBC Tour de France connect to Apple Watch series 4?
will i need to purchase a heart rate band?
What GB iPad works with i fit please ?
did you ever determine if your resistance hack impacts metrics on the leader board, or anything else you can think of?
I don't like the low resistance! Even after adjusting the resistance!
I made a video on my channel showing how to modify the resistance on this bike, perhaps you can search for it on my channel
I'm thinking I might switch out the magnets for more resistance
I need more resistance also. Please let me know how you would do it.
Thank you so much. Your video helped me alot with my first proform bike.
Es buena para usar pro primera vez esa bicicleta amarilla
Can you pair iphone with the bike? To use the ifit?
Will this connect to anything else like zwift for instance? How is it sending the data to the app? I guess it’s Bluetooth but wonder if it’s sending separate data channels for cadence and speed etc.
Does anyone happen to know why, mine would say “hello, f1e9”
Just got this bike but my only concern is a little bit of wiggle in on the handle is this normal?
I think a Mobil phone will fit so you can then use the controls?
What kind of tablet are you using?
Can you set up two profiles on the iFit account? I’m hoping my girlfriend and I can both use the bike and have our own profiles on the app
Yes, up to five profiles on the family membership.
Does anyone know if there are any Ifit rides that actually go over resistance level 7? I mean I'm a middle aged overweight man and these level 4 resistance rides are a joke. I can't even get my heart rate over 100 with them. This bike is awesome for the price imo, but it won't work for me if I feel like I'm out for a leisurely ride around a flat lake while my trainer is going up a mountain.
This is a major flaw in this app/bike combination. It should be the first thing written in any review. The answer to your question is NO. The app doesn't send the correct data for this bike so max is 6 or 7. You will have to increase the resistance about that manually.
Im beginner is this a buy or no??
Can't find this bike even listed on the Costco site? Anyone have a link? Only ProForm bike they show is $1500 and rear wheel
They are only selling it in the store.
I just bought and set up the bike yesterday- I too struggled woth the idea of the tablet being in the way if I wanted to control resistance- and voila! You figured it out - I am happy! Plus, I dont have to wait for 12 weeks to get a peloton!!!
Fantastic!
AND you don't have to come up with another $2000 as well. So much motivation with the interplay with a trainer verse the simple monochrome screen. Of course, you need an iPad to access the Pro Form App which is an extra cost IF you don't have the iPad.
Where are you located? The Costco in Vancouver WA doesn't have them anymore.
To me I look at it as a Beginners bike.
Will sweat damage the motor over time... I notice the cover leaves it exposed
Thank u for the info, just what i was looking after
Can the screen display rpm with the e ink display?
I have been researching an indoor bike that can be use on a carpet flooring. Any suggestions? Thanks. More power.
I have this bike on carpet and it's very stable.
thanks,is there an app without membership
My watts hit a max of 236 when doing sprint intervals. Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? Not sure if this is a bike problem or a iFit problem.
How do the watts display?
no shitty sugary plastic pop music? SOLD!!!!
Nice review! I have a Peloton but this one looks like a pretty good alternative.
I have a product review coming soon for a peloton accessory that connects your apple watch to the standard peloton screen :)
I'll be looking forward to that!
Can i use my android phone to pair up for the screen? as i dont have a tablet. Appreciate your response.
I am an iPhone iPad guy. It should work for Android phone also.
is there really no music in all the classes?
I am 5'10" and my wife is 5'0",will the bike handle this range difference?
I'm 6' 2" and it's a little small to me. I would think that it would work for both of you.
What kind of iPad did you use on the bike? What size iPad? And did you determine whether or not any of the ifit classes have music? Thanks!
Some do have some music but it's not popular music like you'll experience on peloton. Our iPad is 12.9 inches, it's a few years old model, I think I have a link to it and other stuff we use on my Echelon review th-cam.com/video/mGli1yXVC7c/w-d-xo.html
Do you advise on any tri bars that could go on this bike?
Very confused help
How long 3 AA batteries lost?
Thanks for the great video!
What size iPad?
When on manual, my resistance does not stay at designated level
$299 at Costco right now!
Thank you for this!!
I am 5'10" and my wife is 5'0" will the bike handle this height range?
Yes I am 5’2” and it works out just fine
Does the display show watts or power?
it shows watts, i show this in the iFit tour "chapter"
@@TailHappyTV do I have to use ifit to show the watts? Or just manually
Hi whats the difference between the CBC and the CLC????
Only difference is the tablet holder on the CBC and none on the CLC. The front wheels to move it around is bigger on the CLC, like inline skate wheels. But other than that they are identical.
@TailHappyTV Any recommendations for alternative seats or well padded seat covers you recommend? Tysm
this is the #1 best seller on amazon: amzn.to/36WNdai
please watch my fav bike seat video: th-cam.com/video/ugOrCIzrpjk/w-d-xo.html
i share a lot of insight on saddles here, i've tried A LOT of bike seats over the years and for years i thought a squishy, or a wider seat was the solution, and while a squishy seat can provide temporary relief from pain, i really dont think its the long term answer. hope this helps, happy riding!
Are these still available at Costco or where’s another alternative ? To buy them ?
Proform Website has it for $599 with one year of IFit included
The Magnets are glued on lol
Can I use the ifit app with my wife, are there multiple profiles?
Yes