The Night Lords are the BEST Traitor Legion
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มิ.ย. 2024
- Let’s talk about the madlads from the VIIIth Legion, the worst scum in the Warhammer 40k Universe. Well, if you don’t count the Drukhari, that is.
00:00 - Intro
01:33 - Creation
03:27 - Unification Wars
05:00 - Nostramo
08:11 - Great Crusade
11:03 - Horus Heresy
14:06 - Heresy Aftermath
16:23 - Conclusion
music: Overlord - Mechanicus OST
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“I wanted to be a hero. And look how that turned out.” Talos of first claw.
Talos is severely underrated. I'm pretty sure everybody who ever read those books loves him.
@@RedHierophant23 Spoiler for those who have not read yet, do not read ahead:
I am so curious what will happen to the one holding Taloses gene seed
@@LordBelakor Yeah, I'm also curious about that. The Night Lords might have an interesting future ahead of them.
Friendly reminder the Night Lords have the lowest civilian death count of any Legion
During the Great Crusade* right?
This is absolutely insanely hilarious if true ngl
It kinda makes sense though, after flaying an entire planet and broadcasting the screams, you would think the rest of the system would be ready to surrender.
I never thought about that and tbf that's hilarious and most likely true.
@@RedHierophant23 Konrad has a conversation with (IIRC) Lion El'Jonson where he berates the Lion for looking down on the Night Lords for their tactics while the Lion and his Dark Angels have the blood of thousands more on their hands then the Night Lords. The fear their few atrocities caused made a hundred more worlds surrender at their approach.
@@thenecessaryevil2634I was trying to remember where I read that
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Yeah, I was sure I definitely heard something like that before, I didn't doubt that at all.
Night lords certainly have the coolest armor design. Theyre on another level really
Absolutely agree. They have probably the best looking and most distinct armor design among the original legions. Their color scheme is amazing too.
That’s why I paint them, the dark blue, lightning, and skulls with bloody gore is an epic look.
Night Lords.
Some of the most interesting traitors, because despite being brutal, they have very human, even warped noble motivations, as opposed to "The Reality Tumor Told Me To Do It."
Completely agree. I don't think it's a coincidence that my two favorite traitor legions are The Night Lords and The Iron Warriors. Renegade traitors are just the best. Though I suppose the World Eaters are also cool.
If the salamanders are the most human loyalist Astartes
The night lords are the most human traitors
Seriously, almost any normal person would become a night lord over time if they were turned into an 8ft tall demigod
This guy makes warhammer lore coherent wtf
This might actually be the highest level of praise. lmao
I do try, brother. Thank you.
literally The Night Lords;
"A billion deaths is a tragedy, a couple thousand is just a statistic"
Ah, the well-known Conrad Cursor.
Ultramarine to a White Scar while escaping Commorragh, "If there was ever a place that deserved us to send the Night Lords to before the Heresy it was this place." "I'm not sure I wouldn't drop them in there now, they deserve each other."
The funniest part is that post-heresy Night Lords would never take a fight like that. And the Drukhari wouldn't really be keen on fighting space marines head on either. They would just casually ignore each other and look for easier prey.
As corrupt and twisted as they are Xenophobia is still strong in them. They are still space marines in spite of it all.
Ave Dominus Nox 💀🦇
"Cowardly" - you mean, 'uses actual tactics'?
Nah, that would be the Alpha Legion. The Night Lords are just sadistic, but you do have a point.
@@RedHierophant23im with you on this one, they are cowards
It would be cool if that was the case but after reading the painted count vs Raldoran at the siege of Terra I just can’t believe it, and I love the night lords.
Finally video that tells me what night lord Geanseed actually does that's special for them been trying to find this information for ages as my home brew chapter is of the Night lords Geanseed.
What's your homebrew's name and synopsis if you don't mind answering? (Some of the best ideas and info comes from our very creative fanbase and I have often thought about a good backstory for NL homebrew but they are harder to imagine for me than other chapters).
@@fw2101jacobinsleight OK I have a lot of lore so I'll give you a bit of basic info now incase you don't want to have to read it all.
My home brew are a loyalist space marines called the Dark Scar's, Officially in the imperium there know as white scar successes.
There colour scheme the same as the drukhari for the 1st to 5th company with night lords blue on the 6th to 10th (all paldron's are the same kabilt green)
They do take tactics for the codex but don't follow any of its restrictions, and there main styles of warfare is adapting to fit the situation.
Lore:The chapter was founded from a human planet occupied by drukhari, after a force of white scars liberated the system some forces remained to start there own chapter and protect the planet. The first generation of the chapter were in fact white scar Geanseed but the chapter quick became obsessed with the idea of revenge and inflicting pain a terror back onto the drukhari and so the chapter began to hunt down drukhari wherever they could find them, capturing them to torment.
The chapter focus on adaptability as they can not hope to out think the xenos plans. After one terrible war the chapter was almost wiped out. It was then small ragged force of space marines in crimson armour saved them from destruction, when the chapter master was approached by these space marines they promised they were loyal to the impreuim and had been following their chapter have great respect for there methods, a deal was made to take in his men in crimson and unifying there 2 chapters and resupply the geneseed. (night lord geneseed)
The 6th to 10th company are all now fully night lord Geanseed tho only the elders of the chapter know the truth. They are a fully loyal chapter but obsessed with fighting drukhari and will abandoned other wars to do so.
The night lords that approached the Dark Scar's were a loyal remnant of the legion still holding on to knorads ideals of justice and so when the legion had changed they had distanted themselves from the legion then fully broke away during the Heresy, when konrad started to allow drukhari raids on the imperium they entered the war to protect humanity from drukhari raiders.
After the war they isolated themselves the outside keeping a fleet based chapter and claiming to be a unknown founding character.
There armour was painted in a very similar scheme to the Flesh Tearers and they would help the imperium in small quick attacks on a struggling world.
So yeah that's my home brew chapter, not completely night lords and not traitor but there how I've painted them up. Also I gave myself the flexibility to use my old white scar and flesh Tearers models if I want to.
I have done of home brew chapters as well I basically bought a box of ten space marines gave each one its own unique paint scheme and lore, it's what's great about this hobby there's something for everyone :)
@@fw2101jacobinsleight Also if you want an idea on a traitor home brew chapter you could go for some ideas like they are an elite force contractored out by other traitor forces to keep there allies in line, like abandoned has this group polting against him so he sends in your home brew chapter in to sort as they are the best at that thinh. But not part of the black legion.
Or you could do a force that's still in the ultimar segmentum raiding the 500 worlds in small scale attacks never being a big enough threat to deal with and if they do bring attention to themselves they become next to impossible to track as they have a unmapped system that only their navigates can travel to and they just really hate the blue berrie ultramarines so they find the greatest satisfaction to wind them up.
(also for there chapter symbol I'd have the ultramarines u upside down with 2 dot's above to make a sad face )
I love the crazy 8
I love that you can iterate the main points of 40k so succinctly. Retaining your own flare on pronunciation and style, yet not going overboard into being campy.
Well done sir. You’ve earned a Sub.
The 1st captain of the Night Lordz Sev. would take his helm off and was one of the 3 greatest warriors among the stars in all 20 legions . They were space marines. Warriors and murderers
Can't tell what I love more, your voice or the videos themselves. Keep up the good work, given enough time you'll get a lot more popular.
Great writing and production sir. Keep it up please if thou willest. First time in and now subscribed.
Should do a video on the Blood angels and their successors
Not sure why people consider the nightlords cowardly. They are the only ones willing to get their hands dirty in ways their brothers wont and still throw down with the best of them
It's cause the NLs are smart enough to know it's better to live to fight another day than pointlessly dying on a random battlefield that nobody is gonna give a shit about
@@disturbedrenegade9815 right but they seem to consider themselves cowardly too which is where it feels weird to me
They don’t fight head on like a true marine was bred to. They are sneaky, shady and won’t fight unless they have superior numbers.
"renegade" legion ill have you know.
You are correct. But it's mostly semantics, you know. The renegade legions are also traitors, they're just not corrupted by chaos (completely).
@@RedHierophant23 Ah, but even more so in the case of the Night Lords, since they abhor Chaos - it's needless and a weakness. Sure, a few of the 8th have succumbed, but they are largely shunned and ostracized. Or, in rare case, barely tolerated sheerly out of the need for maximized manpower.
I would say that they are a little more than mere garden variety renegades though. I think it would be more apt to classify them as "Conscientious objectors to Empyrean and Imperial servitude". There is still a sort of nobility there. It's twisted and cruel, yes. But merciful in the regard that - when compared to other Legions - they generally intend to keep the mortality rate low, and their overall effectiveness in goal accomplishment very high. But you can't really be branded a "traitor" if the vast majority of your entire legion is just going through the motions of being a loyalist legion whilst never wearing, and even refusing to wear, the Aquila.
Now, who wants a freshly stripped and de-brained skull to display upon their midnight armor?
Awww... come now.... you know you do. See? He's a friendly skull... look... ++ I SAID LOOK! ++ 💀
Love your stuff. We had a bit of chat aboutvit before.
Look, could you give us something substantial on the Carcharodons or Tyberos?
I'll definitely cover them in the future! The Carcharodons are probably one of my favorite chapters and Tyberos is an absolute beast. Both deserve their own individual videos, I believe.
@@RedHierophant23 I can't wait! Thanks!!
Subscribed. If it's not you, who's your voice actor? I wonder if they're a fan, just some minor flaws in their pronounciation of some terms eg Primar[k] not Primar[ch]. Nothing to worry about though, fantastic writing and very engaging video, I like the focus you have on their psychology, archetype and disposition as well as how other legions regard them.
They're the most honest Traitor Legion. The others will kill for power, honour, glory, riches, territory, worship or sensation. Night Lords kill because, why not? What makes you special enough to be allowed to live?
Any story is made better with Sevatar included in it.
What sweet slaaneshi irony.
All Dante's Circles of Hell start from the Second: the Sins of Lust and Pride!
Fulgrim and Emperor's Children become Serpents, Konrad Curze and Night Lords become Dragons, Alpharius/Omegon and Alpha Legion become Crocodiles.
What is the excessive power of the Emperor's Children, the Night Lords and the Alpha Legion under Slaanesh to have bodies of pure dark stone (the Ice Moon of Slaanesh)?
Genestealers (Tyranids) and Beastmen can find excess only with Slaanesh!
I think I've solved Slaanesh's Necromancy!
Ghosts and Skeletons of Slaanesh are of Ice, moved by Lust and Pride.
A pearl of Slaanesh please: Ice Magic of Slaanesh.
Does it have a classic look or does it have a more snowy look?
The (humanoid) Dark Kroxigor for Slaanesh?
How can they be?
The Ossiarch Bonereapers for Slaanesh?
Exalted Chosen of Slaanesh armed with Halberds?
Circle of Avidity is a hell of gold, Circle of Gluttony is a hell of flesh, Circle of Carnality is a hell of bone, Circle of Supremacy (Paramountcy) is a hell of ash, Circle of Indolency is a hell of sand, Circle of Vanity (Vainglory) is a hell of coral.
But why is it called that and not simply Supremacy?
Furthermore, the gold pearls of the Circle of Avidity must be Gold Serpents or Gold Elementals, i personally say gold pearls (the magic water that can turn everything into perfect gold).
And shouldn't the Circle of Vainglory simply be called the Circle of Vanity (example the Princes of Vanity)?
"Vanity, definitely my favorite sin."
(The coral Forest of Vanity)
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I have an interesting theory about the V Circle of Seduction, Vanity (Vainglory).
As Nurgle is nature on Earth, Slaanesh is nature in Water (example the sea gardens of the Laer).
And by logic the fragrant and flowery Forest of Vanity is of perfect coral with spikes and seaweed with spines, dominated by serpentine Demons with spines.
You like it?
Sun Dragons in the Circle of Avidity, Moon Dragons in the Circle of Carnality, Fire Dragons in the Circle of Supremacy, Ice Dragons in the Circle of Supremacy, Metal Dragons in the Circle of Supremacy, Ash Dragons in the Circle of Indolency, Earth Dragons in the Circle of Supremacy, Sea Dragons in the Circle of Vanity, Lightning Dragons in the Circle of Supremacy, Blood Dragons in the Circle of Gluttony.
*slaps*
Brother, that's not the first video you leave these comments under. You're falling under the influence of a god that will leave you an empty shell, a heroin junkie seeking more and more to satisfy your addictions to agony and pleasure, while taking absolutely all control from you.
Remember, if you ascend to a daemon prince, your mortal half is devoured by a daemon who takes on your memories but is not really you. All of the glory will be that of the daemon, not yours.
Follow the gods, if you will, but do not sell your soul to one. The moment you do so, you are dead.
Pardon?
Hi there great looking video. First commented and here I go to watch.
Based. Hope you'll enjoy it, bro.
Ave Dominus Nox
An entire legion of BAT-MEN…oh, hell no!
Explain to me please why torturing some lords to death in the most horific way is worse the subjugating billions of people to the horrors of war is not .
They are the best at war and winning a war.
I think the problem lies with the fact that the Night Lords didn't really do it because the ends justified the means. They did those heinous things because they've enjoyed it. Honestly they are just as likely to skin a bunch of completely innocent people alive, just for the shit and giggles, much like the Drukhari. Their results speaks for itself, yes, but at the and of the day, evil is still evil. Not saying the other legions are angels but I rather be brought to compliance by the Ultramarines, if that's possible. lol
@RedHierophant23
That is not a reason. It doesn’t matter that they did it out of the goodness of their hearts. Whether or not someone does something good or effective for reasons you consider to be morally right or wrong means absolutely nothing and is completely meaningless and irrelevant.
Talk about throwing out the baby with the bath water.
@@RedHierophant23 What's wrong with loving your work? Especially if you're the best at it and it's literally in your genes, hmmm?
I assume you read ADBs nightlords books
Of all the legions the night lords motivations to rebel are justified
Cowardly? No, they fight.
Correction, The Alpha Legion and The Raven Guard are the most cowardly legions ever created. Also. The Night Lords DID NOT launch a crusade in the east, they were dispatched to the east to harass The Dark Angels, and they did so for 3 years effectively knocking out one of the most powerful legions out of the heresy completely
Im going to be that guy, The Iron Warriors are better.
They're a close second for me, tbh.
Most perverted traitor legion…Emperor’s children have entered the chat.
Most awesome traitor legion…most definitely!
My Legion is not cowardly 😝
Since no one else seems to have said it, his last name is pronounced kurz not kurzer
Or “curse”.
@@midgetydeath its not pronounced curse but thats definitely the implication
Heart of Darkness 🤠
He's who Batman should have been if he had the balls for it
terror troops
THEY LACK IRON
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
I'll make a video on them soon.
What are you talking about?! Look at all the blood! There's PLENTY of iron.
Seeing as one of the Traitor Legions are the only unimpeachable good guys of the story, I think the best I can give you is not a downvote. Respect your opinion, its just wrong.
I meant the "best" as in the most interesting, not exactly the most morally justified or anything like that. Also which legion are you talking about? The Thousand Sons?
@@RedHierophant23 While this was meant to be said with tongue firmly in cheek, I think it is fair to say that if anyone in the universe had a fair grudge with the Emperor, it was Angron. And if Big E had just pushed pause on his crusade for 2 minutes to remove the Nails, the rest of the legion does not adopt them. No nails, no fall to Khorne. Angron, and by extension his legion, did nothing wrong and are indisputably the aggrieved party in this situation. Big E sends 2 Marines down, he probably saves Angrons homies and his Sons honor from the dbags who permanently scared his chosen son. Dropsite Massacre? Not without the World Eaters.
@@benjaminpease8288
I don't think removing the Nails was possible without effectively killing Angron too. But I do agree that most of the bitterness Angron felt regarding the Emperor was because he was forced to abandon his brothers and sisters to die in Nuceria. This is one of my main gripes with the Emperor's character, actually. Earning Angron's loyalty could be surprisingly easy, if he wanted to.
I think the emperor is doing his tzeentch impression and playing 5d chess. Also funny tidbit, before the nails angron was the most empathetic of the primarchs
@RedHierophant23
Nothing stopping him from using biomancy to repair Angron or use medical tech or life support for Angron’s own healing to handle it after removing the nails and then just resuscitate him. People in the modern day are sometimes resuscitated after being dead for hours. And frequently after minutes. Let alone someone close to godhood standing right next to the operating table.
There really just is no excuse. Period.
arent starcraft terran marines also criminals in an armoured cell? anyway this is what happens when you make em demigods
Aren't Starcraft Marines basically regular dudes in power armor?
@RedHierophant23 I don't know bro. I only know starcraft is a copy of 40k
@@warhounds Fair enough, bro.
Best Legion
Agreed.
Someone just read the trilogy then
You've read me perfectly, bro. lol
The Night Lords aren't even the best at being sneaky... please
Fair enough. But honestly if they were better at being sneaky than the fucking Raven Guard, the RG would have nothing going for them.
I still think that the fact that Curze was jelly of Corax for being stealthier than he was very funny. lmao
@@RedHierophant23 For The Emperor ..Hydra Dominatus lol what the heck is a raven guard
@@brandonmyers1400 I wouldn't exactly call the Alpha Legion "sneaky", but fair enough, I suppose. lol
I actually think they're pretty cool too, Renegade traitors are best.
@@RedHierophant23 I play Alpha Legion have a little over 2,000 points
@@RedHierophant23 and you don't think the Alpha Legion is sneaky that is awesome lol
Is this read by an AI?
Yes.
Conrad Courser@@RedHierophant23
Abominable intelligence
@@bengonzalez5215 *GASP!* That's heresy!! 😱 ....I'm telling the toaster farmers on Mars.
no they are not the iron warriors are by FAR abetter traitor legion
That's not how you spell "Alpha Legion".
Yeah, if you're into trench coats, guy-liner and trying really hard to be dark and edgy.
If you're not a douche-tastic, wannabe "skewl-shuter", then they suck.
Can you honestly name a single chapter or legion that doesn't sound silly when applying that type of reductionist thinking?
Ultramarines: try-hard basic bhois that GW advertises the most in no small part because they're generic.
Salamanders: TF2 Pyro in space, and he brought a whole army to match.
Space Wolves and Thousand Sons: furry vikings and Egyptian wizards in space fighting because one legion's dad bullied his brother a bit too hard for being too much of a nerd.
Carcharodons Astra: Loyalist World Eaters in 40k but with Night Lord skins.
Minotaurs: same as above but with Spartan aesthetics.
Alpha Legion: What the Thousand Sons should be in terms of ridiculously overcomplicated plots, subterfuge, and questionable loyalty but without the magic.
Blood Angels: What would happen if Alucard from Castlevania fell in love, had some kids, then got killed so now his sons are still sad/mad about it a couple thousand years later.
Lamenters: Same as above, but like if someone made a homebrew chapter with Spiderman luck.
Iron Warriors and Imperial Fist: For all their talk of Iron or unbreakable will, one literally helped doom the galaxy to endless war because his thank you card got lost in the mail while the others have largely been stuck on Terra for ten thousand years (and somehow still managed to get wiped out fighting orks, and had to be replaced before anyone noticed).
Marines Malevolent: If I have to say it with a name like that, I'm not sure I could explain it.
@@morgant.dulaman8733 You don't really think that I'm going to read all of that, do you?