A SUPER TRICKY Chess Problem
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I almost got it.... I only guessed 20-30 moves wrong.
i only guessed wrong 462 times im too good
i don't even think magnus Carlsen would have been able to calculate so many variations so many moves deeps...
@@ANM21985 I solved it with 1 try though I forgot about d6 possibility. Hard but not THAT hard. Solveable with the process of elimination.
@@crystallized1676 So you are Magnus Carlsen
@@rngabbie1860 fr 💀
1 move can change the game. This is so fascinating
This is very good teaching with the main ideas, how strong and tricky the Knight is in making forks and how there is always a trade-off, because the King or Pawn move seemingly improving your position will turn out to be fatal after ten moves. I am very lazy in calculations, and this is a great practice for that. Thank you!
I'll come back to this when my head stops spinning.
Welcome to the world of modern endgame studies!
This is a very nice study and most likely rather recent. I don't have it in my database but will update with the source as soon as I can get it. This kind of small apparently insgnficant differences between two lines where one piece (the black king in this case) ends up placed in a different position which changes everything but only at the very end are called "logical tries" and are quite "en vogue" in modern study composition.
Edit, source : Sergey Didukh, 9th-10th prize, WCCT 2016
Didukh is one of the most brilliant study composer of the last two decades. WCCT is the world chess composition tournament. Didukh (and his teacher Oleg Pervakov) are famous especially for their work in logical tries, which this study illustrates perfectly.
Logical tries were actually the required theme for studies in the WCCT10 (2016) :
"A logical study with the foresight theme. In a win or a draw study,
there is at least one logical try. In this try a critical position B occurs
that is very similar to a critical position A in the solution, except for
a small difference.
Studies in which the critical positions are based on a reciprocal
zugzwang (i.e. the difference is that position A has BTM and
position B has WTM) are non-thematic. Further, studies that only
feature the 7th WCCT theme as the foresight theme (passive
removal of a white piece as a Vorplan and returning to the position
and executing the main plan) are also non-thematic."
Bro no one's reading that
@@athenaprastiti2191 I just did :)
@@athenaprastiti2191 Bro shut up :)
i aint readin allat 💀
@@rogiertp tf does it say
The real genius is not only the one who solves the study, but the composer himself. According to my database, the author is Ukrainian chess player Serhiy Didukh (2016). If we already think we've solved the problem, let's find a hidden defense! Fantastic! National champion Nelson Lopez really has the best videos to be seen on TH-cam in my opinion!
Thing is in the modern day composers have access to engines. They can ask the computer what the best line is, and see what happens in every other line. OTOH it's generally bad form to use an engine to solve a chess puzzle and claim you solved it.
@@Person01234 Your comment, however, is not about the author. He has to invent the study in the first place. The actual solution will usually be solved by the computer, but 1/ it will 'tell' you how, not why; 2/ there are quite a few studies in which the engine fails. These are mostly strength positions. To give a FEN of a primitive example
8/2r1k1r1/3p1b2/2pPp3/1pPp1p/pP3PpP/P2K2P1/8 w - - 0 1 Even a smart 7 year old can understand that the position is a tie while the computer is still groping in the dark. Conclusion: there really is no 'artificial intelligence'. And it's not just a philosophical definition of intelligence: self-awareness. We are not in a science fiction Terminator :-)
The knight is the trickiest peace in chess
Hey, this is chess vibes, you've won!
No bitches.
Very fascinating! Good find and brillant explanation!
I like how he addressed a scam early in the video. Very considerate.
Realy Nice puzzle!!! Thank you very much for your deep analysis!!
Loved this one. I missed most of the moves, but nailed f6 at the end with a huge grin on my face.
I'd like to see more like these please. Brilliant
Nice puzzles. When I first saw it I was really confused. Hopefully you succeed in things you like to do! Bless You!
Thanks a lot. It was a real pleasure to see the solution.
my favorite one yet. loved it!
Dude you're the goat. You explanation and the voice is so gripping and good to listen to
awesome video! that was a great breakdown. just one small request. could you please show the full sequence (from the start) to the checkmate after your analysis? it would be nice to see the game without all the possibilities. your video breakdown is perfect. it would just be super helpful to see how it all unfolds move by move. could be a nice way to end your videos ya
13:50 also here, if black moves the pawn to d5 with check, your king must not capture it, (or move to b5) cause knight jumps to e7 with check.
What a study. Certainly, the knight seems slowest than the rest of the pieces but it's the more unpredictable at a long term.
I did not like chess problems until I got into your channel. Amazing, Nelson! I take it you understand Spanish - from your family name - Bravo, Nelson, la berraquera!
This is a phenomenal puzzle. I love ones that I have no hope of ever solving like this 😂
The source of this excellent study is Sergey Didukh, 10th World Chess Composition Tournament 2016-17, 9th-10th place.
yup, solved it a split second after you explained it. Honest.
Great video Nelson, love your style. cheers man
How about King to g3, bishop to f2 then rook to e1 and then move the h file pawn for promotion?
AMAZING!!
I am a 400 just a begginer maybe 1 month into chess, and this this Fascinating, such a Dynamic game.
Now I'm either a lot smarter or a lot dumber.
I quickly saw that Bd2 followed by Re1+ was the plan, however, I didn't see everything that followed. I would have had to set it up on a board and play through to see all of that, and I probably would have missed some of it even then.
After watching all of Nelson’s videos I’m starting to thing that you should give away your pieces and seemingly not get anything until you checkmate your opponent 267582649291846472736584827 moves later.
😂
The longest possible chess game is only around 5900 moves
Excellent.
That was awesome!
Wow that is ludicrous!
I couldn't see the king behind the time on the thumbnail. Had a little crisis trying to figure out any solution.
One final trick in the position with Nf4, white pawn on f5 and pawn on d6: 1. ... d5+. We cannot go Kc5 or Kb4 due to Nxd3 check. So 2.Kb5, 2.Kb3 and 2.Kc3 ( 2. ... d4+ 3. Kb3 ) are avoiding last trick.
No hay necesidad de sacrificar el alfil, si lo movemos a a7, el caballo negro necesariamente tendrá que ir a d7.
Explicación: si el negro corona, nosotros movemos el rey a g6. Notemos que la reina no puede hacer jaque.
La idea es que si las blancas quitan la dama la fila 1 tenemos jaque mate en e1 con la torre. Y si mantiene la dama en la columna movemos la torre a e2 y en la siguiente jugadas podemos dar mate en h2 con la torre.
La única manera en que el negro puede evitar eso es moviendo el caballo a e2.
As someone who only plays blitz I never had to think this much before about a "lost" endgame
can u make a video about the Dunst Opening?
Krazy! Think you!
Okay I saw the initial sacrifice to stop the queen but how much adoral did it take to follow that convolution of knight, pawn, king cat and mouse… holy moly
I thought from the thumbnail that the puzzle was literally just figuring out which way the pawns are going
That's insane!
Whenever you do these sort of puzzles, with end In a "this will lead into white winning", it would be interesting to sometimes see how you would achieve that victory.
Maybe try to play against Stockfish from such a position, to show how would achieve that victory.
Knight c1 u cant stop black sp forst bishop moves right then u get knight c1 if the rook comes down u promote to queen as its blockig but if the bishop takes then the pawn can capture promotong and check on the queen soooo
When do you get the gifts?
Found the winning idea in under 30 seconds and hit play to see if I was a winner. Maybe I'm a genius after all.
What a fun puzzle!
a5 to protect knight next move (if rook think about... you know). pawn can comfortable transform... you know
I swear if im ever in a possition like this and somehow make it to the end and get a queen, im somehow gonna lose the queen and still lose the match.
Very fun puzzle, it was 500 elo level at the beggining but the end with manupulating the opponent to block their pieces with their own was pretty fun to watch and try to solve
Sweet!
duck chess at the back😂
Is it also winning if black goes for the other pawns and keep his Knight and pawns. Is it easily to stop the pawns with only Q+K?
I will take few days to remember and understand it
6:30 Kg3
really really great
2:51 play Qh1 forking the king and queen then the has has to either go to f2 or d2 and when you take the queen trade you can push either the f3 or d3 pawn and it allows 1 of them to make a queen and it would be an easy make 2 pawns queen?
H1
steal the king, bang, thats mate
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THe cool thing is I got all of the moves that he asked for, but some moves he just played and I thought in my head "I would never find that in my life"
6:11 What was wrong with Kg3 here? It gets away from the knight checks and clears the path for our h pawn.
Black can take pawn on f5 with check with knight, white moves Kf4 trying to stop the knight, black moves Nh6 blockading your h pawn and king from moving any closer. Then it turns into a race between the white king to capture blacks a pawn before it promotes where the white king wins the race, but gives the black king enough time to capture whites f pawn making his f pawn a past pawn and manages to protect and promote the f pawn.
Black wins White loses in this variation
Ne3. If we push, they get the fork.
ah yes i saw that mate in 34 from the beginning
Amazing 😍
what a cool puzzle
You never mentioned what if Kg3-Nd4.. Bf2-.. And so on.. Can you pls reply on that! Ty
If I set this up on Lichess board editor and play as White then, after White's Rook move at 4:25 in the video, Stockfish (default level 8) curiously under-promotes the pawn to a Rook. Why should this be?
I couldn’t even see the black king at first because the video time was covering it up 🤣
14:33 Ke6 worth mention
its like the king is in a mine field
That scam of email me for prize is going on every site on TH-cam. They need to ban these phoney accounts.
fun drinking game: take a shot every time he steps into the fork
continues to stalemate with the queen
Very important
Bishop to f2
what if instad of bringing queen black brings knight
I am not a genius 😂 😂
Wow... I mean, wow. It's almost unhumanly deep.
around 15:08 why wouldn't you push the D Pawn to check the King?
I am no genius but I have the feeling that I can just use my king to drive away the knight's defense on the queening square, I am talking about that final move on this study.
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I already saw it all
So i Paused the Video on 0:34 to share my idea.
I looked at the Puzzle in the Beginning for about 5 minutes and the Only Winning Move i see is Bf2.
Let me Explain:
The Pawn on b2 is one square away from Queening so we need a Strat to let it not happen. The Bishop blocks the Way for our Rook. If we move the Bishop to f2 the Rook has the entire e-File to came back and stop the Pawn from Queening. With Bf2 the e1-Square is protected by the Bishop and if the Pawn Queens we have simply Re1 with a Royal Fork with check and we trade our Rook for the Queen. If the Pawn doesnt promote and the King moves to g2 to capture the Bishop we play Re1 anyway to cover the b1 square. If the King takes on f2 we play Rb1 and win the Pawn and have a winnig Rook Endgame.
I hope it was right.
Edit:
I was completly wrong, didnt see the move Nc1.
But bruh, seeing 18 Moves into the future with all these Tactics? its nearly Impossible to see^^ I think even Magnus Carlsen didnt see this xD
Chess Vibes
Love your video, I have one question for you,
After playing Bishop to D2,
What happens if the Knight on B3 doesn’t take the Bishop on D2. Instead moves King to G2
We play Re1 anyway and black has to play Nxd2 to stop Rb1, so it transposes into the solution.
After you explain these puzzles, you should challenge the bots to see how high you need to go until they solve them (up to stockfish if needed).
I think he should start with mittens.
@@yoav613 Naaa … mittens will get most of them right away. I want to know the worst bot that can solve it as a way to rate the puzzle.
@@kluisi2596 but maybe in this one it would have a hard time.
Sometimes Stockfish doesn’t solve them. It’s rare, but it does happen.
@@electricmaster23 That’s how you know it’s a really hard puzzle.
at 2:55 why not ck black instead of taking queen?
uh yeahhh... my brain....uhh ....idk :)
Why not Ba7? If the object of the 1st move is to allow the rook to get to e1, then that move accomplishes the same thing, takes a pawn and saves the bishop.
It does allow the rook to go to e1. But, the rook would not be protected like it would be if the bishop was on d2. So if we took the pawn on a7, black could just promote. And if we try to check on e1 the black queen can just take our rook.
guess im a genius, some of the black moves werent top engine (played against stockfish 15.1 in chessbase to solve this) so I had to do them 1 at a time along the video
Bishop f2 and then check and got queen
This video fully proved n confirmed I’m NO genius 😂😂😂😂😂
there are some flaws in the puzzles
like in beggining rc3 is possible and after ng2 kg3 wins
Yes but when the knight is on f7 "stopping" from qeening, can't I just bring king over to him and scare him off that square, get my qeen and win the game?
I agree with isakolsson & user-ms7, chasing the knight to the corner, you would still win on tempo. If he moves off to D8 check, you can take another pawn Kxf6, isn't it over?
I will play smart, and stay sharp.
15:05 What if, instead of ...Nxf4, Black plays ...Ng5? That prevents h7, and it would take White 6 moves to support that Pawn.
A little aside: Can anyone actually analyze all these Knight moves in their head? 😳😱
Anyone noticing the duck chess game in the background
This right here illustrates why humans will never equal the top tier chess bots. I'm pretty damn sure even Magnus could never have seen the G2 idea so far ahead. But Stockfish could.
In fact, I found Kc5 and f4 :)
Everyone is genus because they can solve it by using stock fish
can't hurt something that doesn't exist 😂
Great
What if you dont trade queens? 2:53