Stockfish Ruins Another Chess Puzzle 🤦🏽‍♂️

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.พ. 2023
  • Puzzle FEN:
    n3N3/3K3k/6R1/6P1/8/8/8/6r1 w - - 0 1
    Puzzle Details:
    Gorgiev, 1956
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ความคิดเห็น • 404

  • @WarpRulez
    @WarpRulez ปีที่แล้ว +695

    So Stockfish was like: "Actually that doesn't work because of this. However, if you do this instead, it does work, so nice puzzle anyway, you just got the wrong solution."

  • @garmo1968
    @garmo1968 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Stockfish out here delivering patch notes to old chess puzzles

  • @triptothemoon8171
    @triptothemoon8171 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    Refutations of old puzzles are the best chess videos. Thanks for posting and please make more

  • @MintBunHunter
    @MintBunHunter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine if someone refuted these puzzles before stockfish was invented

  • @vnXun
    @vnXun ปีที่แล้ว +287

    I found Nd7 because you said the move was crazy, I didn't know why Nd7 was good I just knew it was indeed crazy

  • @KolejowySzynszyl901
    @KolejowySzynszyl901 ปีที่แล้ว +652

    Stockfish doesn't ruin chess, it finds moves and lines that weren't expected.

  • @matthewviramontes3131
    @matthewviramontes3131 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    You don't even need Stockfish for this one. There's only 7 pieces on the board, so it's a tablebase position, and the tablebase will tell you right away it's a win for White and tell you every winning move too.

  • @rene5939
    @rene5939 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Not only Stockfish could find these other solutions. Looking at the 7 pieces Tablebase would have told us the same…….

  • @skyblue-ph4gq
    @skyblue-ph4gq ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Actually, there are exactly 7 pieces in the board and we can use a tablebase. After Rg7+ Kh8, white has 3 winning moves: Ke7, Rg6, and Ke6.

  • @Joseferberger
    @Joseferberger ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Nd7 was actually quite intuitive once you mentioned the stalemating idea.

  • @David_Crayford
    @David_Crayford ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Beginning to feel sorry for the old masters. Computationally they didn't have the bandwidth to go through all permutations in one lifetime!

  • @alex_zetsu
    @alex_zetsu ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Normally I'd say "it's a win for the intended side, just not the intended way" is not really ruining a puzzle, but a pawn checkmate is pretty cool...

  • @Caladian
    @Caladian ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I did intuitively guess the knight to D7, based on what you said previously about taking away the pieces of black would lead to a draw. I didn't see it though of course, just since you asked that was the only move I could think would create a situation based on what you said previously

  • @vivaankohli9448
    @vivaankohli9448 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for the video. That was a really nice solution. I like how Stockfish finds these lines and moves that we didn't notice when originally looking at the puzzle.

  • @spartanspeedruns8386

    Really happy that I found Ke7 at the beginning of the video lol. The whole video I was like "but what if you do Ke7 instead?? Pushing the pawn didn't seem best there..." and then you finally went back to that and I was like "yes!!!" haha

  • @AbouTaim-Lille

    Stockfish gives a venomous sting to the puzzle, and stockfish gives the antidote.

  • @lucastheg6156
    @lucastheg6156 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually saw the move stockfish had for the right reason. Im proud of myself

  • @ImMataza
    @ImMataza ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very cool its so much fun to see a refutation and new solution

  • @toptwitchchannel
    @toptwitchchannel ปีที่แล้ว

    always interesting to see the solutions to a problem

  • @msvb2457
    @msvb2457 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven't played chess in 100 years and I was never more than average. But I love this channel! You really do a nice job at presenting these ideas.