At 2:57 is a view from the walled orchard south of the Chateau. The Chateau was directly to the west (across the road) from the white building with the red roof. Any tanks in the walled orchard would be firing from a position in the rear of Wittmann's tank. That means Wittmann has driven right past those tanks unmolested. The two lead Tigers were way in advance of Wittmann and thus had also passed by the orchard without taking fire from the Canadians. More importantly there is no line of sight from the south walled orchard to Wittmann or the two Tigers in front of him. The only tank that could hit Wittmann in the flank from the chateau would have to be along the northern wall and from there there is an almost perfect shot into Wittmann LH side. I am not doubting the Canadians hit 007 but they did not do it from the orchard at 2:57
Radley-Walters talked about the position of the tanks at the time but I can't remember to find it. In all my research for Normandy, Wittmann wasn't a priority so I didn't dig into the details about his demise.
I had a chance to meet Radly Walters in 1986 at the Armoured school in Gagetowm N.B. Part of the conversation was about Wittman. Walter's said that the Sherbrooks had a clear line of sight shot at Wittmans Tiger and hit it. Just after the round hit, the Tiger brewed up and exploded, blowing the turret off and landing upside down beside the Tiger. It has also been proven that where Wittman was stopped, he was out of the sights of the Yeomanry, because of the grade of the ground.
The problem with eyewitnesses is that they are notoriously unreliable. I don't think it has been proven the Yeomanry couldn't see him. There is no dead ground there.
@OTDMilitaryHistory From where Wittmans tank was hit, and where the British were, it's like the magic bullet. Norm Christie had a good program where he surveyed the area in 3 different locations and concluded that the English couldn't have seen him
Maybe. But the Sherbrookes had a better vantage point, and what Walter's told me, I think the Canadians got him. I can't see the Sherbrookes not taking advantage of having exceptional cover and range, not to have taken him out .
Michael Wittmann - The Death of Germany's Tiger Tank Ace, Mark Felton - I left them some corrections - it was indeed the Sherbrooke's who were 157 yds away - not 11-1200 yds that the Yeomanry
As far as I can speculate Brad, Wittmann either thought he was invulnerable in his Tiger or he was suffering from battle fatigue and resigned to dying.
@@OTDMilitaryHistory I got a warning this week and pointed out the the callous responses of the poster i was responding to. I know it's hard to believe anyone out there saltier than I . But you are one of the most level headed,even handed hosts on YT even in dissenting debate 🍻
I am a Brit and I reckon The Sherbrooke theory makes the most sense however Aussie infantry got The Red Baron .😀 Joe Eckins gunnery was excellent and in a piece of spectacular British Army logic he was transferred to Radio Operator.
The killshot on Wittman's Tiger was on his left flank - an impossible shot from the location of Eakins tanks. The Sherbrooke's were perfectly positioned for a flanking killshot. Wittman's failure to recconoitre the ground over whichbhe was to attack lead to his demise. Whether this was arrogance, fatigue, or him using East Front tactics against Allied troops, the end result was he was killed. My money is on Radley Walter's and his Sherbrooke's getting the killshot. We don't talk enough about out own tank aces and in my opinion we spend far too much time fawning over Nazis such as Wittman.
Well tank aces weren’t really a thing in the British Commonwealth armies. The Nazis did for propaganda purposes. Their claims in that area are very dubious.
That was a great angle to provide Wittman's tank was I believe 2-300 yrds farther away than the 3 Tigers that Eakins/Yeomanry were credited with taking out. Which means that much closer to Radley Walters and the Sherbrooke's position
@@OTDMilitaryHistory not according to the that docu from Christie and the French *Battlefield Mystery's The death of Panzer Ace Michael Wittman* type that in to the search bar The Sherbrooke's were literally right across the road behind a wall at the château. The researchers used surveying equipment,aerial photos from 1944 and GPS to analyze and plot their positions/distances. Wittman was 1100/1200 yds away from the Yeomanry and that was at the far range of a 17pdr against TIGER armor. And extremely lucky to be effective beyond that No one from the Sherbrookes in the video state that Eakins or any of the yeomanry killed Wittman The Sherbrooke's were at 157yds and had a side shot - not bad odds at all. The Canucks made damn sure they didn't miss. It didn't seem to be a big deal who it was they wanted to eliminate any threat That Video is 42 min. long but you can start at 25 min. in and still get the gist of it. 🍺
@@OTDMilitaryHistory I think even a Tiger would have fallen to a regular old Sherman 75mm cannon at 450 feet distance. Especially where Wittmann's Tiger was hit on the left rear engine ventilation area. Very thin armour right there and then straight into the ammo storage. Boom goes the turret! What a horrible way to die.
@@OTDMilitaryHistory In the interview I saw with Radley-Walters he did not take credit for killing Tiger 007. He said they didn't even know who Wittmann was, so it was no big deal in that regard. If Radley-Walters was driving a Firefly that day, then it was in all likelihood a regular Sherman that got Wittmann. Unless there was another Firefly in that group of Sherbrookes behind the chateau wall. And yes, I think Wittmann was a heel, too!
At 2:57 is a view from the walled orchard south of the Chateau. The Chateau was directly to the west (across the road) from the white building with the red roof. Any tanks in the walled orchard would be firing from a position in the rear of Wittmann's tank. That means Wittmann has driven right past those tanks unmolested. The two lead Tigers were way in advance of Wittmann and thus had also passed by the orchard without taking fire from the Canadians. More importantly there is no line of sight from the south walled orchard to Wittmann or the two Tigers in front of him. The only tank that could hit Wittmann in the flank from the chateau would have to be along the northern wall and from there there is an almost perfect shot into Wittmann LH side. I am not doubting the Canadians hit 007 but they did not do it from the orchard at 2:57
Radley-Walters talked about the position of the tanks at the time but I can't remember to find it. In all my research for Normandy, Wittmann wasn't a priority so I didn't dig into the details about his demise.
I had a chance to meet Radly Walters in 1986 at the Armoured school in Gagetowm N.B. Part of the conversation was about Wittman. Walter's said that the Sherbrooks had a clear line of sight shot at Wittmans Tiger and hit it. Just after the round hit, the Tiger brewed up and exploded, blowing the turret off and landing upside down beside the Tiger. It has also been proven that where Wittman was stopped, he was out of the sights of the Yeomanry, because of the grade of the ground.
The problem with eyewitnesses is that they are notoriously unreliable. I don't think it has been proven the Yeomanry couldn't see him. There is no dead ground there.
@OTDMilitaryHistory From where Wittmans tank was hit, and where the British were, it's like the magic bullet. Norm Christie had a good program where he surveyed the area in 3 different locations and concluded that the English couldn't have seen him
@user-qt8ls1rz9x I did the exact same thing in this video. I showed them. It’s very much possible the British got him.
Maybe. But the Sherbrookes had a better vantage point, and what Walter's told me, I think the Canadians got him. I can't see the Sherbrookes not taking advantage of having exceptional cover and range, not to have taken him out .
@user-qt8ls1rz9x All I’m saying is that the evidence isn’t as clear cut as people have presented it in the past.
Was Walter’s tank a Firefly?
Yes it was!
Michael Wittmann - The Death of Germany's Tiger Tank Ace, Mark Felton - I left them some corrections - it was indeed the Sherbrooke's who were 157 yds away - not 11-1200 yds that the Yeomanry
@@bigwoody4704 Yeah his videos aren’t very good.
I have a favorite photo of Wittmann. It's a small black tablet surrounded by grass in La Cambe cemetery.
As far as I can speculate Brad, Wittmann either thought he was invulnerable in his Tiger or he was suffering from battle fatigue and resigned to dying.
Well either way... (I don't want to say anything that will get me a suspension from posting comments again)
@@OTDMilitaryHistory I'll say it for you. Is the world a worse place because a certain someone died in the war? Hmm ...
@@OTDMilitaryHistory who would suspend you??? Good Presentation
@@bigwoody4704 TH-cam. Last week I respond to a comment on one of my own videos and got a 24 hour commenting ban.
@@OTDMilitaryHistory I got a warning this week and pointed out the the callous responses of the poster i was responding to. I know it's hard to believe anyone out there saltier than I . But you are one of the most level headed,even handed hosts on YT even in dissenting debate 🍻
I am a Brit and I reckon The Sherbrooke theory makes the most sense however Aussie infantry got The Red Baron .😀 Joe Eckins gunnery was excellent and in a piece of spectacular British Army logic he was transferred to Radio Operator.
The killshot on Wittman's Tiger was on his left flank - an impossible shot from the location of Eakins tanks. The Sherbrooke's were perfectly positioned for a flanking killshot. Wittman's failure to recconoitre the ground over whichbhe was to attack lead to his demise. Whether this was arrogance, fatigue, or him using East Front tactics against Allied troops, the end result was he was killed. My money is on Radley Walter's and his Sherbrooke's getting the killshot. We don't talk enough about out own tank aces and in my opinion we spend far too much time fawning over Nazis such as Wittman.
Well tank aces weren’t really a thing in the British Commonwealth armies. The Nazis did for propaganda purposes. Their claims in that area are very dubious.
thanks for going over the ground
Yes it was the Sherbrooke's for sure
Definitely the Sherbrookes made the kill.
Wide open tank country. Defenders had the advantage. Good job showing the terrain and the different units location. Keep up the good work.
Indeed it is. It’s a narrow frontage that’s wide open. Not an ideal place to just go charging in with no plan or intelligence.
Thanks Gene.
That was a great angle to provide Wittman's tank was I believe 2-300 yrds farther away than the 3 Tigers that Eakins/Yeomanry were credited with taking out. Which means that much closer to Radley Walters and the Sherbrooke's position
But the range of the Firefly effective range was well within that distance
@@OTDMilitaryHistory not according to the that docu from Christie and the French
*Battlefield Mystery's The death of Panzer Ace Michael Wittman* type that in to the search bar
The Sherbrooke's were literally right across the road behind a wall at the château. The researchers used surveying equipment,aerial photos from 1944 and GPS to analyze and plot their positions/distances. Wittman was 1100/1200 yds away from the Yeomanry and that was at the far range of a 17pdr against TIGER armor. And extremely lucky to be effective beyond that
No one from the Sherbrookes in the video state that Eakins or any of the yeomanry killed Wittman The Sherbrooke's were at 157yds and had a side shot - not bad odds at all. The Canucks made damn sure they didn't miss. It didn't seem to be a big deal who it was they wanted to eliminate any threat
That Video is 42 min. long but you can start at 25 min. in and still get the gist of it. 🍺
@bigwoody4704 I’m aware of the video
@@OTDMilitaryHistory well they interview Eakins/Radley - briefly though
Very interesting video! This is a great channel!!!
Thank you so much!
Outstanding short program.
Thanks. I kept shorter on purpose. I hope to dig into more with Totalize soon.
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Thank you for sharing this
My pleasure! I hope it gives a better sense of the ground for understanding Operation Totalize.
@@OTDMilitaryHistory Yes it does. Excellent context and explanation. Very good work and presentation🏆🏆🏆
@@drmarkintexas-400 Thank you!
Nice views
It’s a very nice area!
The range matters.
Even with a Firefly.
The Sherbrookes nailed him.
Not at those distances in question
@@OTDMilitaryHistory I think even a Tiger would have fallen to a regular old Sherman 75mm cannon at 450 feet distance. Especially where Wittmann's Tiger was hit on the left rear engine ventilation area. Very thin armour right there and then straight into the ammo storage. Boom goes the turret! What a horrible way to die.
@ToddSauve Yes horrible but he was a terrible person so fitting I suppose
@@OTDMilitaryHistory In the interview I saw with Radley-Walters he did not take credit for killing Tiger 007. He said they didn't even know who Wittmann was, so it was no big deal in that regard. If Radley-Walters was driving a Firefly that day, then it was in all likelihood a regular Sherman that got Wittmann. Unless there was another Firefly in that group of Sherbrookes behind the chateau wall. And yes, I think Wittmann was a heel, too!
Nice work. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Nicely done
Thanks Kevin!
Honestly If I was a Russian or American Tanker and I see 133 on a tiger tank I'ma quit 😭
Well I’m glad those who actually were didn’t do that.
did you film this on a nokia 3310?
Maybe
The Unibrow tells you everything. ( It's said that Witmann had no idea that Firefly tanks were operating anywhere near his location. )
What are you talking about?
Wittman un Grande Eroe della
Ww2. Critiche Inaccettabili.
You can always criticize nazis
@@OTDMilitaryHistory Especially the SS types.