The Largest and Unknown 12th SS Massacre in Normandy

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  • @LeftCoastStephen
    @LeftCoastStephen หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Thank you for keeping their memory alive. It’s crazy that there isn’t a monument for this.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@LeftCoastStephen You’re welcome. There really should be something there to mark this tragedy.

  • @pszczepanski1
    @pszczepanski1 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you for all your diligence in researching this horrific crime committed by the SS..

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re welcome. This is just one of the lesser known SS war crimes I’ll be highlighting.

  • @rb239rtr
    @rb239rtr หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    My father and his compatriots all volunteered to fight for Canada. He came back, but not in one peice, and suffered from what we know is PTSD. His friends gave their lives for freedom of others, my dad gave his sanity for the freedom of others.
    Today, we can't even give two bits for the freedom of others.

  • @gwilymmorgan5115
    @gwilymmorgan5115 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    How did Mohnke get away with it? It's not as if this was his first atrocity, by a long chalk. He is strongly suspected of having been behind the Wormhoudt massacre in 1940, this massacre and the later Malmedy one. He was also with AH to the end in Berlin, after which he survived ten years in the USSR. It's rather hard to believe that he had committed no war crimes during his time on the Eastern Front, considering what the rest of the German army got up to, but he mysteriously survived Soviet captivity.
    I suppose, that, once he got back to Germany, there was no longer any particular will to prosecute him; convicted war criminals were already being released by then.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly right. Once he was released from Soviet captivity, which I am surprised he survived, the lack of political will allowed him to walk free. The Cold War conditions led to such a situation.

  • @JuleyC
    @JuleyC หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you Brad for this one, so hard to believe it's barely known of.

  • @alowry2002
    @alowry2002 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for sharing this story.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re welcome. Thank you for watching.

  • @dmeinhertzhagen8764
    @dmeinhertzhagen8764 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It’s still incomprehensible to me how we took in 2000 + Waffen SS in Canada after the war.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Rabid anti-communism made people do a lot of dumb things.

    • @dmeinhertzhagen8764
      @dmeinhertzhagen8764 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I understand that we used a lot of these guys in an intelligence capacity since they spoke Russian and were proven anti-communists but whoever made this decision was a pure incompetent.
      There were enough honest Russian speaking Canadians to have to need to help with the immigration and hire the SS degenerates.

    • @FrankVZ-q7s
      @FrankVZ-q7s หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, until today you still do the same thing

  • @robmisener2786
    @robmisener2786 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great work Brad! Interesting to see the area and how you would never know what occurred here.

  • @Alan-pv2bi
    @Alan-pv2bi หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Lest we forget 🙏🇨🇦

  • @HeavyDragoon
    @HeavyDragoon หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was a great and informative production..please do not take my comment about the murder of these Canadians as offensive..but can you please look into the reasons as to why this might have lead to this tradgedy?
    There is always a Start, Middle and End to any story or tradgedy...

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We know why this happened. Mohnke was a hardcore Nazi and a psychopath. He was involved in the Wormhoudt massacre along with the murder of Canadians in Normandy. He was an early member of the SS so who knows what else he was involved in.

    • @HeavyDragoon
      @HeavyDragoon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OTDMilitaryHistory Thank you so much for your reply..l have commented on your other response. Please keep your superb work coming...
      Best regards..Rob

  • @gibraltersteamboatco888
    @gibraltersteamboatco888 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lest we forget.

  • @ToddSauve
    @ToddSauve หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hi Brad, I see your narration is going up and down in amplitude again. I also see that in the video you are moving your head away from the integrated microphone on your camera, and putting your hand over your mouth unconsciously. This will make the narration vary wildly.
    I only learned of this massacre by the 12 SS a few months ago. And yet Kurt Meyer was not executed for war crimes. I will never approve of that post war decision.
    I drove down Memorial Drive here in Calgary a week or so ago and they have replaced all of the crosses that used to be there, perhaps only for Remembrance Day, I don't know for sure. From what I could see there were hundreds of them. Things like that just make your heart churn when you realize these all represent an expended human life fighting the Nazis and Imperial Japan. Yet the Allies didn't even put really serious effort into capturing and executing all the war criminals from those two regimes. Sigh ...
    PS I just checked. There are more than 3,500 crosses on Memorial Drive here in Calgary right across from downtown. 💔

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello Todd. Those sections come from a livestream. They are not meant to be perfect and never will be. Subtitles are available for use.

  • @PatGilliland
    @PatGilliland หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How many times was this repeated and never reported?

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The murders?

    • @PatGilliland
      @PatGilliland หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@OTDMilitaryHistory The casual murder of prisoners of war by the SS and German forces in general.
      Would these particular men have been found if there weren't survivors and and inquiry?
      How many, Allied and Soviet, (and civilian) "missing" were actually just murdered and rolled into an unmarked grave that may never be found?

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@PatGilliland how many german troops murdered by allied troops.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No where nears as many at the Germans murdered. Remember those millions of Soviet POWs they starved to death on purpose.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In that case probably millions of times. They killed with impunity during the war.

  • @heyabusa1
    @heyabusa1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just to clarify, are their remains still in that field or were they reinterred at an official war graves site?

  • @michaellee9975
    @michaellee9975 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where is this documented .
    I have read just about every book (from both sides) and never seen any references to this.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s documented in the archives as I clearly state in the video. It’s also covered in “Conduct Unbecoming: The Story of the Murder of Canadian Prisoners of War in Normandy” by Howard Margolian

  • @gibraltersteamboatco888
    @gibraltersteamboatco888 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On their memorial this location is referred to as Le Haut Du Bosq.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a different location with other murders. It was Mohnke’s headquarters.

    • @gibraltersteamboatco888
      @gibraltersteamboatco888 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OTDMilitaryHistory The grave names you mentioned are on the memorial. This is from another site
      Le Haut Du Bosq
      Mohnke, set up his headquarters
      near a cluster of houses known as Le Haut du Bosq, On the night of June 8th, he ordered the murder of many POWs in a field near Fontenay-le-Pesnel.....also ordered the killings of three Canadian POWs, Angel, Holness and Baskerville, at Siebken’s HQ. These names are also on the memorial 8, 9 and 11 June 1944.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Which memorial?

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gibraltersteamboatco888 Is it the Le Chateau D'Audrieu memorial you mean? It does list their names but calling Le Haut Du Bosq isn’t very accurate. It was a completely separate groups of killings.

    • @gibraltersteamboatco888
      @gibraltersteamboatco888 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OTDMilitaryHistory Yes. Perhaps not very accurate but there is quite a bit of information passing it off as such and they mention June 8, Mohnke, Siebken, a field near r Fontenay-le-Pesnel on the way to Le Haut-du-Bosq and the massacre of the Canadians.
      Some mention Angel, Holness and Baskerville at Siebken’s HQ June 8 and Lonel. Benner and Owen June 11 murdered in a field with Mohnke watching

  • @tubaman500
    @tubaman500 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I recommend Juno Beach by Ken Ford. It tells the whole story. My Dad, was a member of 48 Royal Marines Commando who landed behind the North Shore Regiment at Nan Red Sector Juno Beach. Their story isn't known about it either. Ken Ford wrote a book about them too it's called D Day Commando.

  • @molecatcher3383
    @molecatcher3383 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In WW2 all sides committed massacres of surrendered enemy soldiers.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@molecatcher3383 Frequently, in cold blood, and documented beyond “I knew a guy who was there”?

    • @molecatcher3383
      @molecatcher3383 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OTDMilitaryHistory A memebr of my own family saw it happen with his own eyes when was in the British Army. It was the British killing German prisoners.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok. I don’t know you or your family member so I’m not just going to your word for it.

    • @molecatcher3383
      @molecatcher3383 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OTDMilitaryHistory What is the point in you having a comment section ?

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Fair question. Just let me explain a little here.
      This video has thousands of comments and so many people make claims that can’t be verified. That’s how history is done. If you want to provide more details about the story you’re telling than I can look into it. I can’t just believe everything everyone says here without evidence.

  • @FrankVZ-q7s
    @FrankVZ-q7s หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah right... and the other side where angels....

  • @angloaust1575
    @angloaust1575 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Small compared to my lai!

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok what’s your point?

    • @angloaust1575
      @angloaust1575 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As if nazism was the only evil ever perpetrated!

    • @angloaust1575
      @angloaust1575 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pol pot slaughtered many!

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn’t say it was the only evil.

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      And I definitely have no idea what Pol Pot has to do with any of this.

  • @FrankVZ-q7s
    @FrankVZ-q7s หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of course not... it did happened... war is terrible

    • @OTDMilitaryHistory
      @OTDMilitaryHistory  หลายเดือนก่อน

      So just believe both sides were equally bad despite mountains of evidence to the contrary