@@philtripe The Nissan dealer in my hometown was actually giving away a 2013 smart car with less than 10,000 miles with any purchase of a full size truck or SUV in 2018. They had bought a bunch of Smart cars (like 50-100) from a corporate lease sell off.
@bobforpples exactly ,despite the model being 16 years with a slightly revised engine like that's going to make it feel any less of a time capsule. 🤦🏽♂️
Don't forget the Frontier Pro4x also has a locking Dana 44 in the rear, spicer transfer case and dana front axle. Not to mention you can titan swap the suspension including the 5.6 V8 engine since it sits on a titan half ton frame:)
What is your source for the transfer case and front axle info. Unless it has recently changed the transfer case is a TX15 which I don't think is a Dana. The front axle is the R180A. I agree the rear M226 is the same as the axle sitting in the Jeep, but I an unsure about the other parts you mentioned.
Those prices don’t factor in that gladiators sell for sticker or more, and frontiers are being sold at deep discounts. Actual comparable prices are more like $35k vs $60k+
I don’t know where you live but the cheapest rubicon I can find for sale near me is listed at $52k, only $4k off the sticker of $56k so not the loaded version we’re talking about. Either way that is under sticker, so I’ll give you that. Probably due to corona craziness though.
Fritty 99 it is awesome how far we’ve come with vehicles. The pick up trucks get the same mpg as my Friends daughters 1997 Honda sedan and it’s got like 130hp Not to mention they’re both way faster trucks as well
I’ll take a 1 year old ex rental pro4x for $30k add a 2 inch lift 33” tires a front locker sway bar disconnect and a new head unit. I’ll have 95% of the ability of a gladiator rubicon and still have $24 000 left over. Maybe get a compact car to save on fuel, maybe get a overland set up in the back, supercharger, or a couple of dirt bikes, Or a boat....
Here's what I would do taking into consideration a $20K delta in price if I had to act to day. Buy the Nissan and invest the other $20K into a depressed S&P mutual fund and watch that turn into $30K before long and then go after that $60K Jeep in 2022 which by then you'll be able to bargain down to $53K.
derek flint I don’t entirely disagree with you, but just to clarify a couple of things. First, nobody buys a vehicle as an investment. For vehicles like a Corvette or a 4x4, we buy them because they’re fun to own and bring us joy. Second, where on earth do you find a mutual fund that increases by a factor of 10 (likely a lot more if you use your scenario) in a decade or two. Sounds like a gross exaggeration to make a point if you ask me.
Seems like a lot of peps complain about Nissan still the same. Hell Jeep has looked the same for 40 years! You couldn’t possibly be paying an extra 20 grand for anything but the name. The reliability is at the bottom of every reviewer in the world.
I personally love the way the nissan looks... i wish they wouldn't change it... And as far as tech goes, id take an old design that is super durable and reliable vs a new design that has yet to be tested... give the the "old" frontier any day!
Andre! This was great!! I have had 2 xterras which are basically frontiers. In this shootout, I’ll say the Gladiator Mojave all the way! Your insight into vehicles is great!
I like the new Jeeps but I can't get past the pricing so I'll probably never own one. The Frontier makes more sense but it really needs a better interior. I like the new engine in the Frontier they just need to get the rest of the vehicle up to par.
That's why Wrangler and Gladiator is more, new interior, more tech, stronger steering suspension then previous jk, much better transmission and probably more and they can't platform share nothing. I will not buy one either, but there is a lot going on which people don't care to consider...I like the Nissan too, but i guarantee Mojave will also do speed in desert much better just like Raptor did with fox dampers
That mini van engine is hillarious! Seriously Jeep, $60k and you get that engine?! I'd buy the Nissan and a really nice quad for the same price as the Jeep.
I own a gladiator overland and I do have to say the engine is the biggest downfall for this truck. It might be good for other fca cars but not enough power for this truck or towing.
Jeep is cheep, even though it's expensive. It's a FIAT now. Nissan built a new engine just for its trucks, while Fiat uses whatever they've got lying around. They know people will buy it, so they don't care, just like Toyota doesn't care about poor shifting transmissions or gutless gas guzzling engines. Fanboys are very loyal.
Could you do a video on the difference between the Mojave and the Rubicon on road? Do the improvements the suspension, steering, and frame change the way it drives at highway speeds?
Here's the deal, if you were building an off-road truck you'd be so much better off buying the Nissan, titan swapping it properly and you'll have money leftover. Jeeps are just expensive cheap vehicles to me, they're made with cheap gimmicky parts because they know whoever buys one is going to rip the majority of it off anyway
Considering that it sits on a stretched wrangler frame, its SUPER janky... frame flex is LEGIT with this truck... you WILL have problems with this frame...
Andre has been busy. Nice review and comparison but I would not buy either as even with discounts, they are grossly overpriced relative to what you can get in a full size.
Great review, as always. It's a shame neither truck has a 6-foot bed or manual transmission. You can't even haul a motorcycle in a sub 6-foot bed unless it's positioned diagonally. More tech means more to go wrong in 8-10 years. 90% of people who buy this Jeep will never do any real off-roading. I'll be hanging on to my 15mpg 2007 Nismo Frontier until the frame rusts through. 6-speed manual, 6-foot bed, no frills, paid off, and works like a charm - just like a truck should.
i remember when trucks cost $5795..."only Mazda has a truck thats 57 95" and the next year they had the same exact cheap commercial but dubbed in 58 95
I’ve owned two Nissan Frontiers (same generation as this one). Both were incredibly reliable gas guzzlers who would go anywhere I wanted within reason. I currently own the Gladiator Mojave; in terms of styling, technology and suspension the Mojave is far more advanced. Overall, I personally like my Gladiator much more, but there’s certainly nothing wrong with the Frontier!
Good Job on the Vid, thanks for showing other options than Jeeps. As much as I like them, they are getting priced right off the planet. Most us 'Outdoor' people, also need our vehicle to do more then climb walls. For my $$$, it has to haul kids to the game, safely transport Grandkids, go camping and haul kayaks to the lake, without 10k of mods. So your vids, are great in showing other options for us, and are fun to watch, thanks! Also, Im not seeing any crash specs on these Jeeps, and that is a concern also.
Well let me be more rude... I answered your post... saying the information is out there. How “rude” is that... you want me to baby you and just put a link up and let you feel better??? Get off your high horse.
69 Bronco guy! I’m a smart*ss ... seriously???Because I replied to you with facts and your feeling got all hurt??? Let see you be a little more uptight with your comments!
@@sassinator21 yes - but for some reason other countries don't agree even with this. Australia, for example flunked it totally a 1 out of 5. I've been with jeep since 95. Each one has had major safety recalls. I have spent my own cash making gas tanks safe. Gov. crash specs , said 1995 jeeps where safe to, changed their minds after many blew up. I don't trust it any more as a versatile vehicle. Seen too many rollover in the slightest accident. By myself Jeeps are great, put kids in it on a regular basis - fergettaboutit.
69 Bronco guy! Hmmm... triggered??? Nope... your the one that was triggered. You had to make a reply to something that you didn’t need to and then called me a smart*ss... so honestly i don’t give 2 sh*ts about you, your high horse or what you think 🤔 you go on and enjoy your little existence that you have on this planet. I am.
I bought an sv 4x4 2016 for 13000$ new trucks are out the question for me. I'm happy with what I got only 60K miles and not abused. I doubt I'd ever buy new.
I loved my old frontier...I have the new ram rebel but there are days I wish I still had the frontier. Something about the no frills honesty with the frontier is appealing
kingstonsean No, but you might want to have a good looking truck, if you’re going to spend your money on it. That Frontier might look nice, parked in front of the assisted living facility, or the pharmacy.
Derek Enz Really? Looks like a grocery getter. Low clearance, tiny bed that can’t fit anything, low towing capacity, low payload. That sir, is not a real truck (and neither is a Jeep)
Paul von Helger I wasn’t implying anything about impressing anyone. The review was for two mid-sized trucks, and how good they are for off road. The truck should impress the driver, not others. The Frontier has nothing that would impress someone that’s looking for a truck to use off road. That, and it has poor styling, when compared to other trucks on the market.
I can't say really which truck I would buy but there's a lot of things I could do with ~$20k. I could take a chunk of that and put into the Nissan to make it more capable, but realistically I feel people should just wait and consider the 2021 Frontier instead.
@@desertdudechannel yeah man I jumped on that when I saw the price haha! Agreed not only that but we dont know how reliable the new engine will be. I rather get poor fuel economy that take that chance
Less tech makes driver skill more important. The Nissan is very good value. Jeeps focus has always been offroading. Im biased I bought a frontier for the value but also that it's simple and more compact, the most compact of the new midsize which in itself is a advantage offroad. To each there own but for money saved in the frontier you can do some nice up grades to improve and still have left over in that price gap. I wouldn't personally spend 60k on a mid size truck. That frontier is the same price Canadian aswelll. My focus Isn't only offroading though so another reason I avoided the jeep
I’ll be getting a Tacoma trd off-road in a few months. Msrp is just under 40k and it’s the best price to feature truck I found. Also can’t beat the resale and reliability of a taco
As someone who absolutely loved my pro4x Xterra there's no way I'd pay 40k for a new frontier. I'd much rather buy a slightly used one for half the price with the tried and true 4.0 and manual. Then again I only paid 37k for my 18 trd sport tundra brand new so I'd probably do that again before going with anything midsized.
Although this is an interesting comparison, it is a peculiar one. This to me is like comparing the latest Apple phone to an older generation Motorola, one is based on the latest design and other a value buy. Personally, I am a value buyer but that Jeep is off the charts cool.
I am thinking once you get the production model, lift it add better tires modify it like the Rebel Rouser project. Then compare the two, cost, capability etc.
I love Jeeps, but that is a steep price. I spec ordered my JL at sticker & even that was probably paying too much in the 1st model year of production. Used & decent optioned Raptor for $58K with break-in miles is where I’m headed.
You can get a used Rubicon with low miles as well for way cheaper than that. Unfair to compare used and new Enjoy the raptor they make fun vehicles as well but I highly recommend test driving the turbo Rubicon
For $40,000 I would buy a Ford F150 Stx with FX4 package. I dont like the frontier at all because of its 15 year old interior and exterior. Having said that, I like the new Titan a lot.
I wonder why nissan still sells this old navara to USA. In Europe we have the updated model for 3 or 4 years now maybe more. I love tfl videos and reviews keep the good content coming!
You better get a great deal from Nissan to offset the huge depreciation you will get the minute the '21 redesigned truck is released! I would wait for it. The Jeep is cool, but it will also drop after you drive off the lot.
The best truck for me is the one i can afford Both of these are overprice like any other truck in the market today. Nissan does offer some good discounts though but its still to outdated for me and id rather get a ranger than either of these.
You can get a new Fronty in the low $30's. A comparable Ranger is in the low $40's. So I don't follow your comment. I like the Ranger but a turbo 4cyl off road? no thanks. The Fronty is reliable, I picked up a used one with 30k miles for $21k.
I have a np300 king cap with 2.3 l diesel double turbo160 hp , 2020 model , it has 310 lbs at 1500 rpm and 7.65 liter per 100 km with empty trailer . Don't understand why Amerika Stay's with those big gas engines ??
Not in the real world. I did a quick search at dealers around my area and the MOST expensive, loaded new pro4x I could find was like $38k. You can pick them up for around $35k.
traded a 2018 frontier for a 2020 jeep wrangler unlimited...every aspect of the jeep including power and fuel economy us better. yes the jeep is not a truck but with seats down I have more room then the frontier...i like utility type vehicles but the frontier was loud, sluggish, ineffecient and frankly a let down.
First I'll admit past returns are no guarantee of future returns when it comes to the stock market, but the current the market was just hammered down a debatable 30+ %, that being said I w/o a doubt would see the $60K Jeep loose great depreciation in 24 months and the S&P will rebound then compound in value arguably 28% over that same time frame. ""Just saying" this is I what would do.
I don’t see the point of that comparative test. One is a light truck that eventually can go to light to medium off-road and the second is an 4x4 truck for medium to heavy off-road that can eventually be used as a cargo truck with the restrictions of a small bed. Different vehicles with a huge difference in price. No sense in comparing them but to create content to TH-cam.
$ vs purpose. Is there more that needs to be said? lol Track record of reliability has been established in the Nissan. Give the Gladiator 10 years of life and stack up the repair records and then there will be a fair comparison on that. Hopefully for Jeep enthusiasts the FICA brand will stack up to the Nissan/Toyota brand and the choice between will get harder to make. Functionality and capability, there is no argument(by me)that the Gladiator has some girth over the Nissan. Only time will tell if the hype over Gladiators is well founded.
Chris Meza Yeah, it is the same besides engine and trans. Should sell for around the same. I bought mine before there was a global pandemic too, so there are probably going to be even better deals on the 2020’s when they are for sale.
Chops 00 right.. so you saying they “go for $30k” is based a different model and not the same config as you’ve listed. Since it has the newer technology there’s no reason they should “sell around the same”, though it might seem nice. Plus, no actual price has been released, they state in the video it is “approximately $40k”. Deals will be had on the 2019’s and 2020’s after this pandemic dies down and especially when the 2021 is released
That’s on the old engine and transmission, don’t get me wrong I’d still take the frontier all day over the Jeep but I don’t know if the new trans and engine will be as reliable as the old, time will tell
I like Andre’s detail oriented presentations.
Yup!
If I'm spending 60k for a desert racer im getting a raptor.
iwilleatyopussy that must be the one with gold plated wheels😹. You need to find another dealer.
@193001 kiplssd go to autotrader
@iwilleatyopussy www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/806487164/overview/
@iwilleatyopussy you just have to look
Fritty 99 They are $70-75,000 in my area.
Who the hell pays $40k for a Frontier?
im pretty sure its buy one get one free when you pay retail at a Nissan dealer
Or 65k for a Jeep!
@@philtripe The Nissan dealer in my hometown was actually giving away a 2013 smart car with less than 10,000 miles with any purchase of a full size truck or SUV in 2018. They had bought a bunch of Smart cars (like 50-100) from a corporate lease sell off.
@@philtripe lmfaoo
@bobforpples exactly ,despite the model being 16 years with a slightly revised engine like that's going to make it feel any less of a time capsule. 🤦🏽♂️
Don't forget the Frontier Pro4x also has a locking Dana 44 in the rear, spicer transfer case and dana front axle. Not to mention you can titan swap the suspension including the 5.6 V8 engine since it sits on a titan half ton frame:)
What is your source for the transfer case and front axle info. Unless it has recently changed the transfer case is a TX15 which I don't think is a Dana. The front axle is the R180A. I agree the rear M226 is the same as the axle sitting in the Jeep, but I an unsure about the other parts you mentioned.
Remember when a 40k truck was "top of the line"?
Those prices don’t factor in that gladiators sell for sticker or more, and frontiers are being sold at deep discounts. Actual comparable prices are more like $35k vs $60k+
Ummm, no. Right now Gladiators are going for $13.5k off of sticker.
www-motor1-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.motor1.com/news/404702/2020-jeep-gladiator-discount-increase/amp/?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15862669438977&_ct=1586266947872&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motor1.com%2Fnews%2F404702%2F2020-jeep-gladiator-discount-increase%2F
Before the plague hit, I priced out a new Gladiator Rubicon at the dealership in Idaho where everyone buys. 62k, I was going to get it under 49k.
I don’t know where you live but the cheapest rubicon I can find for sale near me is listed at $52k, only $4k off the sticker of $56k so not the loaded version we’re talking about. Either way that is under sticker, so I’ll give you that. Probably due to corona craziness though.
Rich Farfugnuven Just saw you said you’re from Idaho. Maybe so out there, not here in Boston area.
Buy the nissan, 3k for a titan swap suspension and 2k some fiberworx fenders and Dezert Offroad bumpers.
How would I go about a titan swap
In latin america the frontier is other that one of the video is 2013 model.
60K for Fiat reliability.....what a joke!!! Might as well call Pelosi a genius which is another joke!!!!
Bring the Frontier up goldmine hill and use the locker, pair it up against the ranger and the Tacoma.
The Nissan frontier actually also uses Dana 44 axles in the rear.
What kind of axle is up front
@@davidcaskey4669 not Dana's. Lol
Jeep : we will make the most expensive off road mid size truck on sale now.
Mercedes X class: 😎hold my schnitzel
Remember the days when you wanted 310hp you had to get a V8?
I remember when GM released the Vorte. In 1996 - we thought 230HP was awesome. Look now...lol
You can. Buy any Generic Motor Crap and you can get yourself an animic v8
Hal 1000 far better than any POS Hemi - aka cam grinder. The new LT DI engines are excellent.
I remember gas mileage too😄
Fritty 99 it is awesome how far we’ve come with vehicles.
The pick up trucks get the same mpg as my Friends daughters 1997 Honda sedan and it’s got like 130hp
Not to mention they’re both way faster trucks as well
I’ll take a 1 year old ex rental pro4x for $30k add a 2 inch lift 33” tires a front locker sway bar disconnect and a new head unit. I’ll have 95% of the ability of a gladiator rubicon and still have $24 000 left over. Maybe get a compact car to save on fuel, maybe get a overland set up in the back, supercharger, or a couple of dirt bikes, Or a boat....
Here's what I would do taking into consideration a $20K delta in price if I had to act to day. Buy the Nissan and invest the other $20K into a depressed S&P mutual fund and watch that turn into $30K before long and then go after that $60K Jeep in 2022 which by then you'll be able to bargain down to $53K.
derek flint I don’t entirely disagree with you, but just to clarify a couple of things. First, nobody buys a vehicle as an investment. For vehicles like a Corvette or a 4x4, we buy them because they’re fun to own and bring us joy. Second, where on earth do you find a mutual fund that increases by a factor of 10 (likely a lot more if you use your scenario) in a decade or two. Sounds like a gross exaggeration to make a point if you ask me.
Take the mutual fund and buy a used Mojave.
Buy, the Nissan, invest $20K into it, and you'll still own the Nissan
@@blooder2006 You'd have a heckuva truck! Full Titan swap, winch, whatever tires you want, camper top, Decked, HAM radio, etc. And money left over.
I litterly have that trade on lol.
just buy a used frontier and save a ton of $
funkierfawn budgie I bought a 2018 Pro4x with 11k miles a year ago for $24,000 out the door
@@cmreamhomes3274 crazy
Seems like a lot of peps complain about Nissan still the same. Hell Jeep has looked the same for 40 years! You couldn’t possibly be paying an extra 20 grand for anything but the name. The reliability is at the bottom of every reviewer in the world.
I personally love the way the nissan looks... i wish they wouldn't change it...
And as far as tech goes, id take an old design that is super durable and reliable vs a new design that has yet to be tested... give the the "old" frontier any day!
Andre! This was great!! I have had 2 xterras which are basically frontiers. In this shootout, I’ll say the Gladiator Mojave all the way! Your insight into vehicles is great!
I like the new Jeeps but I can't get past the pricing so I'll probably never own one. The Frontier makes more sense but it really needs a better interior. I like the new engine in the Frontier they just need to get the rest of the vehicle up to par.
That's why Wrangler and Gladiator is more, new interior, more tech, stronger steering suspension then previous jk, much better transmission and probably more and they can't platform share nothing. I will not buy one either, but there is a lot going on which people don't care to consider...I like the Nissan too, but i guarantee Mojave will also do speed in desert much better just like Raptor did with fox dampers
The jeeps seem to really hold there value just like the Tacoma
Fully loaded Pro-4X are going for $31k in my area.
Let's be honest, who would rather be seen in a frontier, no thanks!
That mini van engine is hillarious! Seriously Jeep, $60k and you get that engine?! I'd buy the Nissan and a really nice quad for the same price as the Jeep.
I own a gladiator overland and I do have to say the engine is the biggest downfall for this truck. It might be good for other fca cars but not enough power for this truck or towing.
Jeep is cheep, even though it's expensive. It's a FIAT now. Nissan built a new engine just for its trucks, while Fiat uses whatever they've got lying around. They know people will buy it, so they don't care, just like Toyota doesn't care about poor shifting transmissions or gutless gas guzzling engines. Fanboys are very loyal.
Gladiator Mojave with an eco diesel would be tough to beat.
Could put a Dirt King long travel kit on the Nissan and it’ll still be cheaper than the Gladiator and better 😂
True but the nissian still looks like it’s from 2003 and it’s a shitbox
@@nolanlabelle1999 Why do you think its a shitbox? Its going to outlast every one of the competition
@@nolanlabelle1999As if unreliable Fiat products are not a $hitbix.
What? 40K for an old Nissan Navara (Frontier)? Nissan should made the update of the model years ago.
I’ll keep my 2020 Jeep gladiator rubicon I love it
Me too!
My 2020 listed for 61000 I paid 51000 drive out and it’s a fantastic truck
40k for that Frontier is ridiculous lol.
But 60 for a less-reliable Jeep is fine.
Could you do a video on the difference between the Mojave and the Rubicon on road? Do the improvements the suspension, steering, and frame change the way it drives at highway speeds?
I'd still rather have the old gladiator without all the electronic stuff. All you really need is a good driveline and detachable doors.
Here's the deal, if you were building an off-road truck you'd be so much better off buying the Nissan, titan swapping it properly and you'll have money leftover. Jeeps are just expensive cheap vehicles to me, they're made with cheap gimmicky parts because they know whoever buys one is going to rip the majority of it off anyway
20k difference? dam that can buy you a shit ton of mods for the frontier or buy a dedicated trail rig. the jeep is a tacky looking tonka toy.
Considering that it sits on a stretched wrangler frame, its SUPER janky... frame flex is LEGIT with this truck... you WILL have problems with this frame...
@@nicholasmapes frame flex on a frontier ?? tf you talking about its a boxed rame
@@hihaveaniceday9386 I was talking about the jeep
@@hihaveaniceday9386 frontier has a great platform, almost the same frame used on the titan, super tough for a midsized truck
you folks at TFL do know the nissan's rear axle is a dana 44 right?
Hey Andre : I am buying the Mojave ! Thank you !
Andre has been busy. Nice review and comparison but I would not buy either as even with discounts, they are grossly overpriced relative to what you can get in a full size.
Great review, as always. It's a shame neither truck has a 6-foot bed or manual transmission. You can't even haul a motorcycle in a sub 6-foot bed unless it's positioned diagonally. More tech means more to go wrong in 8-10 years. 90% of people who buy this Jeep will never do any real off-roading. I'll be hanging on to my 15mpg 2007 Nismo Frontier until the frame rusts through. 6-speed manual, 6-foot bed, no frills, paid off, and works like a charm - just like a truck should.
Come on! Compare it to the Sport. I see Sports for 38K well appointed (with current insensitive)
Now let me spend 20k on my frontier and see which is better?
The old Frontier with a brand new engine and transmission.
At this point the 2020 Frontier won't come out until 2021
ikr I cant find any anywhere
Great detailed video Andre! I love how well detailed your reviews are. Stay safe.
Nissan Frontier just looks absolutely boring. Interior is like a 1990 Oldsmobile.
Agreed. I'm not wowed by tech all over the place, but man, that dash and controls looked really cheap and out of date.
But the gladiator is ugly
i remember when trucks cost $5795..."only Mazda has a truck thats 57 95" and the next year they had the same exact cheap commercial but dubbed in 58 95
Andre I love your reviews. Your details or research on the vehicles are always spot on and you do a wonderful job. Awesome vid today
I’ve owned two Nissan Frontiers (same generation as this one). Both were incredibly reliable gas guzzlers who would go anywhere I wanted within reason. I currently own the Gladiator Mojave; in terms of styling, technology and suspension the Mojave is far more advanced. Overall, I personally like my Gladiator much more, but there’s certainly nothing wrong with the Frontier!
My Mojave was 44k.
Wranglers are off the charts expensive these day. They nickel and dime you for every add on. Not worth the money imo. They look fantastic though!
I wish you guys would test the base model gladiator s it’s more relatable for us honest working folks
60K for a cheap Jeep...you can keep it!
Good Job on the Vid, thanks for showing other options than Jeeps. As much as I like them, they are getting priced right off the planet. Most us 'Outdoor' people, also need our vehicle to do more then climb walls. For my $$$, it has to haul kids to the game, safely transport Grandkids, go camping and haul kayaks to the lake, without 10k of mods. So your vids, are great in showing other options for us, and are fun to watch, thanks! Also, Im not seeing any crash specs on these Jeeps, and that is a concern also.
Matthew J if you would have searched... the crash specs are out there. www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2020/JEEP/GLADIATOR/PU%25252FCC/4WD
Well let me be more rude... I answered your post... saying the information is out there. How “rude” is that... you want me to baby you and just put a link up and let you feel better??? Get off your high horse.
69 Bronco guy! I’m a smart*ss ... seriously???Because I replied to you with facts and your feeling got all hurt??? Let see you be a little more uptight with your comments!
@@sassinator21 yes - but for some reason other countries don't agree even with this. Australia, for example flunked it totally a 1 out of 5. I've been with jeep since 95. Each one has had major safety recalls. I have spent my own cash making gas tanks safe. Gov. crash specs , said 1995 jeeps where safe to, changed their minds after many blew up. I don't trust it any more as a versatile vehicle. Seen too many rollover in the slightest accident. By myself Jeeps are great, put kids in it on a regular basis - fergettaboutit.
69 Bronco guy! Hmmm... triggered??? Nope... your the one that was triggered. You had to make a reply to something that you didn’t need to and then called me a smart*ss... so honestly i don’t give 2 sh*ts about you, your high horse or what you think 🤔 you go on and enjoy your little existence that you have on this planet. I am.
I'd buy a reasonably well equipped frontier like an SV or SL, then add aftermarket rear lockers, and save some money.
Be careful sv and sl models come with a different and weaker axle then the pro4x
I bought an sv 4x4 2016 for 13000$ new trucks are out the question for me. I'm happy with what I got only 60K miles and not abused. I doubt I'd ever buy new.
Test the gladiator s or overland I wanna see how capable they are off-road stock
I loved my old frontier...I have the new ram rebel but there are days I wish I still had the frontier. Something about the no frills honesty with the frontier is appealing
Frontier looks like an “old man’s truck” The interior is also humdrum.
Neither the trail or the payload ask how old the driver is.
kingstonsean
No, but you might want to have a good looking truck, if you’re going to spend your money on it. That Frontier might look nice, parked in front of the assisted living facility, or the pharmacy.
Steven Russell Its a truck not a mall crawler like the Jeep.
Derek Enz
Really? Looks like a grocery getter. Low clearance, tiny bed that can’t fit anything, low towing capacity, low payload. That sir, is not a real truck (and neither is a Jeep)
Paul von Helger
I wasn’t implying anything about impressing anyone. The review was for two mid-sized trucks, and how good they are for off road. The truck should impress the driver, not others. The Frontier has nothing that would impress someone that’s looking for a truck to use off road. That, and it has poor styling, when compared to other trucks on the market.
Daaang, I don't know what took us so long to get into direct injection. Others like isuzu got into it over 16 years ago and it was incredible then.
I can't say really which truck I would buy but there's a lot of things I could do with ~$20k. I could take a chunk of that and put into the Nissan to make it more capable, but realistically I feel people should just wait and consider the 2021 Frontier instead.
Awesome video Andre..stay safe n healthy n thanks again☺
Does anyone know the curb weight of the Mojave?
The Jeep is definitely overpriced, but the real question is...Why would anybody pay $40,000 for a 16 year old Frontier?
I wouldn't pay that either. But in my area, you can buy a loaded, very low mileage 2019 Pro4x for under $28,000. That makes a lot more sense to me.
I got my new 2019 frontier pro4x for 26k! So yeah...
@@desertdudechannel yeah man I jumped on that when I saw the price haha! Agreed not only that but we dont know how reliable the new engine will be. I rather get poor fuel economy that take that chance
Aaron Plaster good choice! With only 2mpg difference. You stole that pro4x. Good job!
Less tech makes driver skill more important. The Nissan is very good value. Jeeps focus has always been offroading. Im biased I bought a frontier for the value but also that it's simple and more compact, the most compact of the new midsize which in itself is a advantage offroad. To each there own but for money saved in the frontier you can do some nice up grades to improve and still have left over in that price gap. I wouldn't personally spend 60k on a mid size truck. That frontier is the same price Canadian aswelll. My focus Isn't only offroading though so another reason I avoided the jeep
@@C10sRule You to bud stay safe. I hear ya 30% take advantage to those who can.
I’ll be getting a Tacoma trd off-road in a few months. Msrp is just under 40k and it’s the best price to feature truck I found. Also can’t beat the resale and reliability of a taco
Who would have guessed Frank Dux would get into cars and trucks after wining the Kumite?
As someone who absolutely loved my pro4x Xterra there's no way I'd pay 40k for a new frontier. I'd much rather buy a slightly used one for half the price with the tried and true 4.0 and manual. Then again I only paid 37k for my 18 trd sport tundra brand new so I'd probably do that again before going with anything midsized.
Although this is an interesting comparison, it is a peculiar one. This to me is like comparing the latest Apple phone to an older generation Motorola, one is based on the latest design and other a value buy. Personally, I am a value buyer but that Jeep is off the charts cool.
Have you guys compared these two particular trucks off road yet??
I am thinking once you get the production model, lift it add better tires modify it like the Rebel Rouser project. Then compare the two, cost, capability etc.
Andre my man ...... you nailed it on this report
I love Jeeps, but that is a steep price. I spec ordered my JL at sticker & even that was probably paying too much in the 1st model year of production. Used & decent optioned Raptor for $58K with break-in miles is where I’m headed.
You can get a used Rubicon with low miles as well for way cheaper than that. Unfair to compare used and new
Enjoy the raptor they make fun vehicles as well but I highly recommend test driving the turbo Rubicon
Depends on if reliability is important to you. I’ve never known a Jeep that didn’t break.
For $40,000 I would buy a Ford F150 Stx with FX4 package. I dont like the frontier at all because of its 15 year old interior and exterior. Having said that, I like the new Titan a lot.
What I want vs what I need...with budget as a factor. Thanks
I wonder why nissan still sells this old navara to USA. In Europe we have the updated model for 3 or 4 years now maybe more. I love tfl videos and reviews keep the good content coming!
How can you compare a Jeep to that crappy Nissan?
40k Frontier Value option? Are you serious?
You better get a great deal from Nissan to offset the huge depreciation you will get the minute the '21 redesigned truck is released! I would wait for it. The Jeep is cool, but it will also drop after you drive off the lot.
The best truck for me is the one i can afford Both of these are overprice like any other truck in the market today. Nissan does offer some good discounts though but its still to outdated for me and id rather get a ranger than either of these.
09blackcobaltss Absolutely - Ford Ranger is the best Mid-Size on the market.
@Krasnaludek how is the reliability? I like the design of the ranger. i keep my vehicle for a long time, i wonder how long it will last.
mark allen Very true. Id rather have a v6 than a turbo 4 especially in the long run. That Ranger engine was junk in the ford escape not long ago.
I found a pro4x frontier around me for 10k off
You can get a new Fronty in the low $30's. A comparable Ranger is in the low $40's. So I don't follow your comment. I like the Ranger but a turbo 4cyl off road? no thanks. The Fronty is reliable, I picked up a used one with 30k miles for $21k.
Why is America not using the new Nissan Np300? The Nissan Frontier has been discontinued in the UK.
I have a np300 king cap with 2.3 l diesel double turbo160 hp , 2020 model , it has 310 lbs at 1500 rpm and 7.65 liter per 100 km with empty trailer . Don't understand why Amerika Stay's with those big gas engines ??
@@the33rules73 "regulations". I'd love a diesel Frontier.
@@thalo215 I think my diesel is cleaner than a v6 gasoline ? It has adbleu and filters !!
I'll stick with my 2000 frontier
For the price difference, I'll get the frontier and bank the rest
nissan get $40K for a 2005 pickup? damn!
Not in the real world. I did a quick search at dealers around my area and the MOST expensive, loaded new pro4x I could find was like $38k. You can pick them up for around $35k.
pcosta816 exactly! I paid 34,327 for mine, love it!
The Nissan is old here in Africa we have latest version which looks much bigger and better than that old one they still sell in the US
The jeep just makes me wonder: what ever happened to just being good at driving?
Who spends 40k on a Frontier
Not sure the excitement over the "new" Frontier. All they did was put a detuned n/a GTR engine and Mercedes trans behind it.
The only thing I dont like about the Frontier is those stupid roof bars, and the fact we cant but one new in Aus any more
The nissan is a good old reliable truck, but man the interior is *SO* bad!
traded a 2018 frontier for a 2020 jeep wrangler unlimited...every aspect of the jeep including power and fuel economy us better. yes the jeep is not a truck but with seats down I have more room then the frontier...i like utility type vehicles but the frontier was loud, sluggish, ineffecient and frankly a let down.
First I'll admit past returns are no guarantee of future returns when it comes to the stock market, but the current the market was just hammered down a debatable 30+ %, that being said I w/o a doubt would see the $60K Jeep loose great depreciation in 24 months and the S&P will rebound then compound in value arguably 28% over that same time frame. ""Just saying" this is I what would do.
Both are lemons
Why are they comparing a desert racer to a off road truck
What would you rather fly an A-10 or B-52? The 2020 Frontier would make a great sleeper truck with the new engine but old body style.
Trail Test haha that “sleeper” flew right over your head😂
You make that gladiator interior look so uncomfortable and small...
i'll bet that nissan will be giving these away when they go bankrupt this year. hell, FCA might join them.
I don’t see the point of that comparative test. One is a light truck that eventually can go to light to medium off-road and the second is an 4x4 truck for medium to heavy off-road that can eventually be used as a cargo truck with the restrictions of a small bed. Different vehicles with a huge difference in price. No sense in comparing them but to create content to TH-cam.
I bet the fronty will kick the “desert runner” ass on the dunes.
$ vs purpose. Is there more that needs to be said? lol Track record of reliability has been established in the Nissan. Give the Gladiator 10 years of life and stack up the repair records and then there will be a fair comparison on that. Hopefully for Jeep enthusiasts the FICA brand will stack up to the Nissan/Toyota brand and the choice between will get harder to make. Functionality and capability, there is no argument(by me)that the Gladiator has some girth over the Nissan. Only time will tell if the hype over Gladiators is well founded.
Frontiers don’t go for $40k. I just bought one, exact same config and color, for $30k
Chops 00 yeah, he’s talking about and reviewing the 2020 though, which isn’t yet on sale.. let me guess, yours is a 2019 with the 4.0?
Chris Meza Yeah, it is the same besides engine and trans. Should sell for around the same. I bought mine before there was a global pandemic too, so there are probably going to be even better deals on the 2020’s when they are for sale.
Chops 00 right.. so you saying they “go for $30k” is based a different model and not the same config as you’ve listed. Since it has the newer technology there’s no reason they should “sell around the same”, though it might seem nice. Plus, no actual price has been released, they state in the video it is “approximately $40k”. Deals will be had on the 2019’s and 2020’s after this pandemic dies down and especially when the 2021 is released
Nissan will last a lot longer and isn’t ugly as sin
$40k! For that old turd! 😂
It still amuses me seeing the same old plastic buttons in the new $40k Frontier that're also in our 09' Altima pile lol.
$20,000 less with tremendous reliability ie 1,000,000 mile Frontier. I vote Frontier
That’s on the old engine and transmission, don’t get me wrong I’d still take the frontier all day over the Jeep but I don’t know if the new trans and engine will be as reliable as the old, time will tell