I don't get a positive vibe from Alfred. As well as his demeanor, he also said some questionable things. For example when describing his relief at being told the police had at last found a motive for murder (the life insurance) he said he was happy at last - for the police and... (I was expecting him to say for justice for Joan)... and for himself, but never even referred to Joan. At the end of the video he said he was glad the financial advisor was no longer able to target people like Joan who are "gullible" and alone - placing the onus on her alleged gullibility as being partly to blame for her murder. I thought it a cold and detached thing to say in such circumstances. Instead I was expecting the word "vulnerable" which would have kept 100% of the blame on the murderer. And finally you have to ask why she moved away from them if she thought so highly of them. The story about her moving away in memory of her uncle has to have come from them and, to be frank, it sounds like a nonsense reason. Sorry but I'm not convinced by him whatsoever.
@@helenaville5939 45:37 Alfred "One good think has come out of this dreadful period and that is that this man has been taken off the streets and no longer can he take money off gullible, lonely people". No longer can he kill lonely people, surely.
@@helenaville5939 I don't agree. He is just a traditional British man who is trying not to cry for the cameras. Obviously he is just a cousin so nothing like as close as losing a sibling but even so...
A truly riveting and horrendous story which turned out to be much much more than simply a scammer at work. Thank goodness for the observations of the neighbour too.
I'm confused on how you can take out a life insurance policy on 1. Someone you're not related to, and 2. Why these insurance companies don't notify the individual that a policy has been taken out against them So many true crime stories have involved life insurance policies and people being unaware. You would think that companies would make it mandatory to notify the person 🙄 literally all it would take is 5 minutes..."Hi my name is Susy from ABC Insurance. Are you aware and consenting that Mr. X has taken out a life insurance policy on you for 1 million dollars?"
I understand what you mean. However, insurance companies don t really care what is done and how it is done. This is why there are people who have 2, 3 and more insurances on someone s life....they only care about the money they are making off of someone...
@@redgree1645 I agree. It's not only the upper managers who want the money, their call centre employees earn commission that they are desperate for. They will miss sell to gain it. They also have a better chance for promotion if they make good sales figures. If they get caught out they move on to the next job.
I think it is a question of delving into more detail. The third post mortem here took a very close look at the tissue under the skin around the mouth which is not something that you would do routinely for all examinations. It does not imply incompetence.
Yes agreed. So sad that ladies alone are targeted by people like this man. We had a family doctor in the 60’s, Dr Crittenden (who was as I remember was a jolly well spoken man) when we lived outside Burton on Trent in a rural farming area who was held in very high regard by my parents. Possibly a descendant? I don’t think that it’s a common surname but I could be wrong. Shocking.
@@bernadettebarry3099 shame on her and him only. Stop putting others' ill behavior off on those who really had no say in the situation. ACCOUNTABILITY!
@@bernadettebarry3099 Yes….I was thinking exactly the same!!! I’d love to know just WHY the ‘cousins’ didn’t seem to visit Joan 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤷♀️ I bet they went on to inherit whatever monies they could retrieve 😢😡 like to hear ‘their side’ in more detail although it wouldn’t bring Joan back! 😢😢😢✝️✝️✝️✝️🇬🇧
It is not ladies alone that are targeted, men too suffer at the hands of unscrupulous people. To those blaming the family for not visiting how do you know they didn't as they were obviously in close contact via the phone and to blame the neighbours too, what were they supposed to have done differently.
And I can just IMAGINE the stories he told Joan about how he was so unhappy with his wife who didn't understand him, how he had nothing to do with her for ages, how that marriage was over long time ago, how it has been only formal and how they lived separate lives, how he was so lost and empty and resigned to spend the rest of his life without love, how lonely and hopeless he felt, but then, when he met Joan, he felt happy again, how he was going to divorce his wife the moment Joan moved close to him, how they would use all her money to start a new life, how blissfully happy they'll be, how grateful he felt to have met her, how she had transformed his life, how the divorce was now just a quick formality and then he'd marry Joan and they'll live happily ever after, bla, bla, bla... Poor Joan. She was lonely, she was ill and she mistook this man for a true gentleman, a good man and a sincere friend and lover. Putting her trust in this manipulative psychopath cost her everything. She deserved better.
Actually..... it's worse than that. Go look up Peter Crittenden murderer and note the article from the time in the Worcester newspaper of Iris Crittenden complaining bitterly about the twelve months her husband spent in jail awaiting trial. Iris had the nerve to call it a "travesty of justice", when all along her psychopathic husband was lying and maintaining his innocence. Could that have something to do with how long he awaited trial 🙄 duh. Peter and Iris Crittenden strike me as a pair of self-entitled clowns who deserve each other!
In 2002 it was a normal English word for women who never married though. I think it is just one of those words we don't use so much. We tend not to use th e proper legal term in 2023 eg for children born out of wedlock - bastard either. Times change
I think it’s a great word and has only been associated with unattractive women left on the shelf by people in the past. The fear of being vulnerable and alone in eras past that didn’t have the benefits system sought to discourage women from going it alone. We should own this title, people keep saying how ok it is to be single so own it.
Everybody's so quick to correct, judge others today w that said SPINSTER is not disrespectful it's a cultural specific connotation same as bachelor or maiden, it's as old as time & awesome.
Spinster used to be a description for independently wealthy women, who had no need to marry to afford housing or living in general. Spinning brought a high price so their wages were traditionally higher than most men's.
Money is the root of all evil, but I will always believe a life is worth more than money, I don’t have much I have repairs to save for in my home I am disabled but I would give what I have worked for all my life to save a life, I really can’t understand why so many lives are stolen for the sake of monetary gain. Rest in eternal peace sweetheart
@godsown4683 While on one hand you are certainly right for that is what Paul wrote (1 Tim 6:10), but on the other hand, let us not confuse mere words of mortal men for the Absolute, Infallible & Irrefutable Word of God. For one, neither money nor the 'love for money' existed when Evil took root. And, if you study the Word of God (from God, and not from men, just as it is infallibly promised of all the truly Godly - eg. Jn 6:45) you'll also learn, it is Covetousness which is the Root of all Evil. As it is a covetous heart behind all evil. Whether of the fallen angels or of the fallen men. Just as this case proves. Yet again!
I don’t think he ever had a romantic relationship with her. I think some of that paperwork he falsified to make it look like she felt he was deserving of her money. He was a con and sadly she felt for that con. So sad. 😞
@@janesmith9024 So sad what happened to her 😞. I guess we will never know the whole story. I will always say con artist people like him are so disgusting that anything that comes out of them to me has no credit or value whatsoever. Any documentation could have been falsified by him to benefit his own interest. We will never know the whole story. Only the two of them do. I hope she’s resting in peace 🙏🏼😇
I live in Italy. A neighbor was telling me what happened to her friend, a widow. She was in working in her garden when a man on a motor scooter rode up & said, "Give me all your gold". She went indoors & came out & when she handed it to him he said, "Now give me also this", & pointed to her gold wedding ring & she promptly took it off & handed it to him. Shortly after he took off she "woke" & realized what she had done & called the police...of course it was to late...there was nothing they could do. In short, some people have an "affect" on others & poor Joan was victim of that "affect". You just never know.
People can act in wildly surprising ways in distress, even to themselves. Ive heard similar stories of people following along, despite having got away from the threat, behind locked doors and into perceived safety. But also bursting into laughter or doing something other odd, completely unfitting things in that situation. I remember an older man who simply decided to ignore his robbers and carried on like they werent there, throwing off these young wannabe robbers. You just never know and you might surprise yourself too.
Particularly law abiding people who are conned into thinking someone is the police - another scam. Those poor teenagers murdered on the Norwegian island by Brevik were top of their schools because they obey the law and rules so accepted the initial advice to obey as it was police, rather than hiding.
people dont have to tell others everything about them. you never give anyone else your money...love them or not. in this world you cannot trust anyone. he was a total low life. rip joan
Watch your elderly with these financial planners. We caught my late Mother telling me her financial planner took her to get her drivers licenses renewed?? She kept flunking and he took her three times. We starting questioning what was going on. None of the kids in the family lived near our mother. She was in her late 80's and she kept going on how sweet he was to help her. We starting investigating and found out he needed her to have a drivers license to get into these risky investments. She also wrote him and he cashed a personal check to him for 1000.00 US dollars because he was so sweet. My brother and sister flew out and paid a visit and told him we were going to the government to turn him in for fraud. He lost over 40,000 dollars of her wealth and she had no idea. We took over everything and tried to help her get back on her feet. Nothing happened to him because she signed a disclaimer, she didnt know, that investments are risky and she could lose money. So sad these scammers pick on the elderly.
Yes, good advice. Old man opposite was conned by scammers two years in a row! When he gave £8k to fraudster roofers who called at the door to do the roof (they got the money) then his family intervened and he moved near them. Yet he seemed a very clever sensible man to me - it is amazing how trusting some people are. Our father's secretary and her family managed to get him to do a will change - she only got a quarter but it still sticks in my throat to think about it. I did worry if she were a serial fraudster arranging care for the elderly. I almost feel once you are about 70 we should not encourage people to change their wills.
Pour woman. How she died! If feel so sorry for her. Must been very painful! And .... that becausecof the money! RIP Miss. JOAN❤❤❤ And thank you detetives.. Good job❤
Why is she described as a shy, retiring, churchgoing old spinster? Why the “Spinster” in todays age we are still calling single woman above a certain age a Spinster? Poor woman has had enough and to have this happen to her then she has to be publicly known now as a Spinster too? Sheesh 🙄 Who wrote this and more importantly, who ok’d it ? Even if someone described her as that in the telling of her story why would anyone think it a good idea to repeat it? Not a good look y’all. Not at all.
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WHAT A JERK I wonder how many other vulnerable old ladies that he took advantage of took their Monday? I've been a widow since 1998 and believe me there have been many many people who have taken advantage of me and I should have known better. But believe me I do now and I hope that I never get taken again. Like my mom used to say Lord willing and the creek don't rise
Worth half a million pounds and she picks a financial planner from the newspaper classifieds? Poor, sheltered gullible lady, he must have seen her coming
Joan sounds very silly and gullible - a total target for predictors. Financial advisor? Why did she need one? Should have kept her money as it was, or asked her cousins to give her some advice. Silly old bat.
I'd sure want to know iff someone took a life insurance policy out on my life and no way the insurance companies are going to head off their cash cows, it will take an act of law to bring the morally corrupt industry to heel.
I cannot see any online updates so hopefully he remains in jail or being now in his 80s died in jail. Unfortunately quite bright people taken in by scammers find it so hard to accept that their family is often the last to be told as they are embarrassed. I hope the family was able to force the killer's wife to sell the family home to pay the £250,000 owed to the estate of Joan and also a sum for damages in a civil case.
13:31 I'm not sure why being well spoken and well presented ought to , on its own , make someone "believable" ; I think this cop should either stop jumping to conclusions or get another job after all Bundy was both of those things....
Ain't that the truth! If you have tattoos or wear heavy/dark eye makeup, then you must be "trouble"... But if you wear a suit & drive a Mercedes or bmw, you must be a "good person"...LOL! Unfortunately, it doesn't just apply to the police. That is truly still how the majority of society thinks- whether they'd like to admit it or not,
I think what he meant was that he could see how Joan could be so easily taken in. Police look at people in a different way - fraudsters are often well presented and suave.
Greed is the big motivator in this from the moment he met Joan to discuss her finances he was already plotting how he was going to put a end to her and her money.Despicable man may Joan RIP
It's really sad how we can be so naive when it comes to men and their bull! R.l.P. Joan. So sorry for her family and friends to go through the situation. It's a real shame they keep referring to Joan as a spinster. My God she was a woman trying to live an honest, frugal life who got sucked in by a real greedy creep! Thank goodness for the investigators and detectives for solving the case. Kudos!
Narcissist, he has no scruples and is just full of greed. He thinks he’s so clever, more clever than our police. It’s just unfortunate for their poor victims, who are decent human beings, they don’t stand a chance against these despicable people. Bless her!
It's nauseating to hear the cops making value judgments on physical appearance, clothing, job, house, money as if that makeS them better people, less criminal, and more believable.
The word I dislike is Geezer, some young punk gets in my face and calls me a Geezer will find their self on the ground. I was SF for many years and I don't BS.
Great job! I would've loved to see you strp put of your comfort zone and try taking the backs off if only for educational purposes. They turned out great though.
Can we please all agree to retire the word “spinster” once and for all? It’s an archaic word that’s quite demeaning and no longer holds meaning in modern society.
People are so wicked over money aren't they? Talk about being a predator. This unfortunately happens everywhere and all the time. Sadly. We reap what we sow and what goes around comes around. 100% my experience.
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What a wonderful effort by the Cheshire constabulary, we're fortunate to have detectives like this in our country.
Quite disgraceful how the commentator refers to the abuser and murderer as "her lover" during the piece. #earthdigital
Those two officers are truly special.....am impressed...good job. Poor Joan....so sad.
They cared
You can see it still deeply hurts Alfred and Sue. Poor loves. RIP Joan ❤️
yes, it affected Alfred, a lot
@@IwasBlueb4 Alfred was rather worried about the money...that he was rather hoping was going to be his :) Same for Sue
I don't get a positive vibe from Alfred. As well as his demeanor, he also said some questionable things. For example when describing his relief at being told the police had at last found a motive for murder (the life insurance) he said he was happy at last - for the police and... (I was expecting him to say for justice for Joan)... and for himself, but never even referred to Joan. At the end of the video he said he was glad the financial advisor was no longer able to target people like Joan who are "gullible" and alone - placing the onus on her alleged gullibility as being partly to blame for her murder. I thought it a cold and detached thing to say in such circumstances. Instead I was expecting the word "vulnerable" which would have kept 100% of the blame on the murderer. And finally you have to ask why she moved away from them if she thought so highly of them. The story about her moving away in memory of her uncle has to have come from them and, to be frank, it sounds like a nonsense reason. Sorry but I'm not convinced by him whatsoever.
@@helenaville5939 45:37 Alfred "One good think has come out of this dreadful period and that is that this man has been taken off the streets and no longer can he take money off gullible, lonely people".
No longer can he kill lonely people, surely.
@@helenaville5939 I don't agree. He is just a traditional British man who is trying not to cry for the cameras. Obviously he is just a cousin so nothing like as close as losing a sibling but even so...
A truly riveting and horrendous story which turned out to be much much more than simply a scammer at work. Thank goodness for the observations of the neighbour too.
I'm confused on how you can take out a life insurance policy on 1. Someone you're not related to, and 2. Why these insurance companies don't notify the individual that a policy has been taken out against them
So many true crime stories have involved life insurance policies and people being unaware. You would think that companies would make it mandatory to notify the person 🙄 literally all it would take is 5 minutes..."Hi my name is Susy from ABC Insurance. Are you aware and consenting that Mr. X has taken out a life insurance policy on you for 1 million dollars?"
I understand what you mean. However, insurance companies don t really care what is done and how it is done. This is why there are people who have 2, 3 and more insurances on someone s life....they only care about the money they are making off of someone...
You would think that would be their first priority.
Thanks for noting!
Blessings
Yes it’s all about money,money that’s all they care about.😢
@@redgree1645 I agree. It's not only the upper managers who want the money, their call centre employees earn commission that they are desperate for. They will miss sell to gain it. They also have a better chance for promotion if they make good sales figures. If they get caught out they move on to the next job.
Right!!!!!!😮
Poor Joan. Just wanted some companionship, kindness and comfort in her later years and she runs into this amoral money-grubbing lowlife.
Seven Sages. Yes I understand this. But didn`t she know he was married?
probably a Psychopath
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Really makes me question the competency of the medical examiners when it takes 3 postmortems to determine the cause of death.
Lori . Exactly my thought.
similar to my sister's death....we never got answers ...contradictory stories....
@lorisanchez2469 - Precisely! I mean, pillow in mouth with blood, blood spatter on another pillow in another room???
I think it is a question of delving into more detail. The third post mortem here took a very close look at the tissue under the skin around the mouth which is not something that you would do routinely for all examinations. It does not imply incompetence.
Yes agreed. So sad that ladies alone are targeted by people like this man. We had a family doctor in the 60’s, Dr Crittenden (who was as I remember was a jolly well spoken man) when we lived outside Burton on Trent in a rural farming area who was held in very high regard by my parents. Possibly a descendant? I don’t think that it’s a common surname but I could be wrong. Shocking.
Shame on family who must never have visited and nieghbours who never looked out for her
@@bernadettebarry3099 shame on her and him only. Stop putting others' ill behavior off on those who really had no say in the situation. ACCOUNTABILITY!
@@bernadettebarry3099
Yes….I was thinking exactly the same!!!
I’d love to know just WHY the ‘cousins’ didn’t
seem to visit Joan 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤷♀️
I bet they went on to inherit whatever monies
they could retrieve 😢😡 like to hear ‘their side’
in more detail although it wouldn’t bring Joan
back! 😢😢😢✝️✝️✝️✝️🇬🇧
It is not ladies alone that are targeted, men too suffer at the hands of unscrupulous people. To those blaming the family for not visiting how do you know they didn't as they were obviously in close contact via the phone and to blame the neighbours too, what were they supposed to have done differently.
Talking about history….I’m still waiting for a dishonest rogue to be uncovered in my family tree. No rogues as of yet unfortunately
Great work, RIP Joan
A fascinating though very sad case for that lovely, trusting lady. Insurance policies can be instant death if one is not extremely careful.
It's really great when you blank the audio during critical parts of the story, really lends something to the tale.
I just hate that word “”spinster”. She was a single woman. God bless her!
You easily offended clowns need a hobby, it's just a word , grow up
Why do you hate it?
Negative connotation. Always been that way.
@@dinatocco4403 It implies that all women want and need a man.Single is a fi e word.
I thought the same....
And I can just IMAGINE the stories he told Joan about how he was so unhappy with his wife who didn't understand him, how he had nothing to do with her for ages, how that marriage was over long time ago, how it has been only formal and how they lived separate lives, how he was so lost and empty and resigned to spend the rest of his life without love, how lonely and hopeless he felt, but then, when he met Joan, he felt happy again, how he was going to divorce his wife the moment Joan moved close to him, how they would use all her money to start a new life, how blissfully happy they'll be, how grateful he felt to have met her, how she had transformed his life, how the divorce was now just a quick formality and then he'd marry Joan and they'll live happily ever after, bla, bla, bla...
Poor Joan. She was lonely, she was ill and she mistook this man for a true gentleman, a good man and a sincere friend and lover. Putting her trust in this manipulative psychopath cost her everything. She deserved better.
That’s exactly what they do… cry and became victims until they get whatever they need… horrible people
Actually..... it's worse than that. Go look up Peter Crittenden murderer and note the article from the time in the Worcester newspaper of Iris Crittenden complaining bitterly about the twelve months her husband spent in jail awaiting trial. Iris had the nerve to call it a "travesty of justice", when all along her psychopathic husband was lying and maintaining his innocence. Could that have something to do with how long he awaited trial 🙄 duh. Peter and Iris Crittenden strike me as a pair of self-entitled clowns who deserve each other!
Wow, you should write stories. The way you write is vivid without being lurid. If you ever start writing stories, please let me know.
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Exactly. How many married men would become romantically involved with a 71 years lady. Pleased the Police could see through his deception
An evil preying monster should get the death penalty or at least locked up forever
Jane Absolutely.
“Spinster” is disrespectful. R.I.P., Miss Bennett.
In 2002 it was a normal English word for women who never married though. I think it is just one of those words we don't use so much. We tend not to use th e proper legal term in 2023 eg for children born out of wedlock - bastard either. Times change
I think it’s a great word and has only been associated with unattractive women left on the shelf by people in the past. The fear of being vulnerable and alone in eras past that didn’t have the benefits system sought to discourage women from going it alone.
We should own this title, people keep saying how ok it is to be single so own it.
Men are called bachelor's if they never married or had children same as spinster for women who never married and had children it's no disrespectful
Everybody's so quick to correct, judge others today w that said SPINSTER is not disrespectful it's a cultural specific connotation same as bachelor or maiden, it's as old as time & awesome.
Spinster used to be a description for independently wealthy women, who had no need to marry to afford housing or living in general. Spinning brought a high price so their wages were traditionally higher than most men's.
Great police work.
my immediate thought was suffocation...cant understand why they didnt check for all signs of it, first time
Money is the root of all evil, but I will always believe a life is worth more than money, I don’t have much I have repairs to save for in my home I am disabled but I would give what I have worked for all my life to save a life, I really can’t understand why so many lives are stolen for the sake of monetary gain. Rest in eternal peace sweetheart
Not money.... Love for money is the root of all evil.... Read the word
The LOVE of money..... The possession of
"Money" [itself] is not an evil thing.
@godsown4683 While on one hand you are certainly right for that is what Paul wrote (1 Tim 6:10), but on the other hand, let us not confuse mere words of mortal men for the Absolute, Infallible & Irrefutable Word of God. For one, neither money nor the 'love for money' existed when Evil took root. And, if you study the Word of God (from God, and not from men, just as it is infallibly promised of all the truly Godly - eg. Jn 6:45) you'll also learn, it is Covetousness which is the Root of all Evil. As it is a covetous heart behind all evil. Whether of the fallen angels or of the fallen men. Just as this case proves. Yet again!
That old man has the evil look and air around him...
Very mean of him to do what he did.. all cos of money..
If only there is fairness in life..🤨
I don’t think he ever had a romantic relationship with her. I think some of that paperwork he falsified to make it look like she felt he was deserving of her money. He was a con and sadly she felt for that con. So sad. 😞
Yes, I wasn't so sure either given her age etc although I think there was a letter from her suggesting love.
@@janesmith9024 So sad what happened to her 😞. I guess we will never know the whole story. I will always say con artist people like him are so disgusting that anything that comes out of them to me has no credit or value whatsoever. Any documentation could have been falsified by him to benefit his own interest. We will never know the whole story. Only the two of them do. I hope she’s resting in peace 🙏🏼😇
Quite astounded that some people seem to focus on semantics only instead of what happened to this lady!
This is solid investigative work by both Detectives, it never ceases to amaze and repulse me what a person will do to another for personal gain.
Superb job, highly appreciated. 👍🏼
God bless her.
Rest easy Joan
I live in Italy. A neighbor was telling me what happened to her friend, a widow. She was in working in her garden when a man on a motor scooter rode up & said, "Give me all your gold". She went indoors & came out & when she handed it to him he said, "Now give me also this", & pointed to her gold wedding ring & she promptly took it off & handed it to him. Shortly after he took off she "woke" & realized what she had done & called the police...of course it was to late...there was nothing they could do. In short, some people have an "affect" on others & poor Joan was victim of that "affect". You just never know.
Did you mean “effect”?
People can act in wildly surprising ways in distress, even to themselves. Ive heard similar stories of people following along, despite having got away from the threat, behind locked doors and into perceived safety. But also bursting into laughter or doing something other odd, completely unfitting things in that situation. I remember an older man who simply decided to ignore his robbers and carried on like they werent there, throwing off these young wannabe robbers. You just never know and you might surprise yourself too.
@@AidaShawJ.D. REALLY?
Particularly law abiding people who are conned into thinking someone is the police - another scam. Those poor teenagers murdered on the Norwegian island by Brevik were top of their schools because they obey the law and rules so accepted the initial advice to obey as it was police, rather than hiding.
Omg..it took 3 post mortems to finally ascertain cause of death...shocking
RIP.
Joan.
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people dont have to tell others everything about them. you never give anyone else your money...love them or not. in this world you cannot trust anyone. he was a total low life. rip joan
It's always about the insurance policy.
Watch your elderly with these financial planners. We caught my late Mother telling me her financial planner took her to get her drivers licenses renewed?? She kept flunking and he took her three times. We starting questioning what was going on. None of the kids in the family lived near our mother. She was in her late 80's and she kept going on how sweet he was to help her. We starting investigating and found out he needed her to have a drivers license to get into these risky investments. She also wrote him and he cashed a personal check to him for 1000.00 US dollars because he was so sweet. My brother and sister flew out and paid a visit and told him we were going to the government to turn him in for fraud. He lost over 40,000 dollars of her wealth and she had no idea. We took over everything and tried to help her get back on her feet. Nothing happened to him because she signed a disclaimer, she didnt know, that investments are risky and she could lose money. So sad these scammers pick on the elderly.
Yes, good advice. Old man opposite was conned by scammers two years in a row! When he gave £8k to fraudster roofers who called at the door to do the roof (they got the money) then his family intervened and he moved near them. Yet he seemed a very clever sensible man to me - it is amazing how trusting some people are. Our father's secretary and her family managed to get him to do a will change - she only got a quarter but it still sticks in my throat to think about it. I did worry if she were a serial fraudster arranging care for the elderly. I almost feel once you are about 70 we should not encourage people to change their wills.
Excellent work by the hard-working Detectives and forensics. How can anyone be duped into giving all their money is beyond comprehension.
Be VERY VERY THANKFULL, you can't understand, because you could also be a victim.
Oh bless her..just terrible
Very excellent work of the police and detectives so very well done .. love to joan and her family.
Beautiful Joan RIP 💕
The detective sounds like John Hurt. That is a compliment.
Evil man, preying on lonely elderly women. He needs to rot in a 4x2.
Pour woman. How she died! If feel so sorry for her. Must been very painful! And .... that becausecof the money! RIP Miss. JOAN❤❤❤ And thank you detetives.. Good job❤
Another great episode
If an unmarried woman is called a spinster then a man should be called a spindle lol
Why is she described as a shy, retiring, churchgoing old spinster? Why the “Spinster” in todays age we are still calling single woman above a certain age a Spinster? Poor woman has had enough and to have this happen to her then she has to be publicly known now as a Spinster too? Sheesh 🙄
Who wrote this and more importantly, who ok’d it ? Even if someone described her as that in the telling of her story why would anyone think it a good idea to repeat it? Not a good look y’all. Not at all.
I agree, and take objection to the use of the word " Old" for someone in their 50's. I'm 67 and don't consider myself to be old.
I disagree. It’s an important part of her story and possibly made her more naive and vulnerable to a love fraudster.
@@Mrs.TJTaylor to each their own I suppose. To me it’s derogatory and only victimizes her more.
Old fashioned England
@@lyndaboot7413 still, it’s outdated and Derogatory. Has no use or meaning in todays society.
30 police officers to investigate 1 person? They have a large police force then.
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Ahaa, I did not know that. Thanks for teaching me something today! 👍 @@WelshToni
Kill someone over money what price is life RIP Joan 🙏
Thanks someone human
WHAT A JERK I wonder how many other vulnerable old ladies that he took advantage of took their Monday? I've been a widow since 1998 and believe me there have been many many people who have taken advantage of me and I should have known better. But believe me I do now and I hope that I never get taken again. Like my mom used to say Lord willing and the creek don't rise
I wonder if the family were ever able to recover some of Joan's money ...
Worth half a million pounds and she picks a financial planner from the newspaper classifieds? Poor, sheltered gullible lady, he must have seen her coming
Joan sounds very silly and gullible - a total target for predictors. Financial advisor? Why did she need one? Should have kept her money as it was, or asked her cousins to give her some advice. Silly old bat.
WHY are the English keep saying SPINSTER , there are different discriptions....!
Why non English trying to control their language?
Apparently it's OK to humiliate women for the sake of art
I'd sure want to know iff someone took a life insurance policy out on my life and no way the insurance companies are going to head off their cash cows, it will take an act of law to bring the morally corrupt industry to heel.
Three Autopsies, Two Forensic Searches of the House, no wonder the UK Police Budget is so high. Got there in the end though. R.I.P Joan
Joan 🙏❤
Same thing happened to my cousin disabled man of 75 his Care giva Stole around $300,000.
And the dirty low down crook never went to jail for it.
I cannot see any online updates so hopefully he remains in jail or being now in his 80s died in jail. Unfortunately quite bright people taken in by scammers find it so hard to accept that their family is often the last to be told as they are embarrassed. I hope the family was able to force the killer's wife to sell the family home to pay the £250,000 owed to the estate of Joan and also a sum for damages in a civil case.
An exemplary job was done by the police and justice was served. R.I.P. Joan.
I’m glad that they highlight she was a spinster.
Why??
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I am proud to be a spinster.....
29:10 they didn't investigate the death immediately, only now, after finding the insurance document?
Imagine a man in his 60 and still greedy
Sue is a lovely lady
Absolutely.
This is the second show on you r channel where the sound has disappeared. It is not my computer. Thought you should know.
always good videos, BUT please cut the crap music it’s not needed
Dude! Go make your own videos then.
This is an old documentary that was original aired on TV.
13:31 I'm not sure why being well spoken and well presented ought to , on its own , make someone "believable" ; I think this cop should either stop jumping to conclusions or get another job after all Bundy was both of those things....
some of the scruffiest looking ppl have no criminal records. cops get confused when you don't look your part.
Ain't that the truth!
If you have tattoos or wear heavy/dark eye makeup, then you must be "trouble"...
But if you wear a suit & drive a Mercedes or bmw, you must be a "good person"...LOL!
Unfortunately, it doesn't just apply to the police. That is truly still how the majority of society thinks- whether they'd like to admit it or not,
I think what he meant was that he could see how Joan could be so easily taken in. Police look at people in a different way - fraudsters are often well presented and suave.
Anyone can get an insurance policy on you, their are ae very disturbing, all they care about IS 💰 MONEY??????
What kind of narrator is calling her a spinster? Is this the standard of british shows?.
tg we don't have the standards of American shows :-)
Greed is the big motivator in this from the moment he met Joan to discuss her finances he was already plotting how he was going to put a end to her and her money.Despicable man may Joan RIP
Watter ou skelm wetter!😮
Joan was in her 70s it states at the end not 56, everyone getting their knickers in a twist about her being called a spinster.
Typical narcissist then 🤔 R.I.P 💜
It's really sad how we can be so naive when it comes to men and their bull! R.l.P. Joan. So sorry for her family and friends to go through the situation. It's a real shame they keep referring to Joan as a spinster. My God she was a woman trying to live an honest, frugal life who got sucked in by a real greedy creep!
Thank goodness for the investigators and detectives for solving the case. Kudos!
Nice to be able to say a good job done by police.
Some of your audio is missing at rhe 18 minute mark
What a predator
Narcissist, he has no scruples and is just full of greed. He thinks he’s so clever, more clever than our police. It’s just unfortunate for their poor victims, who are decent human beings, they don’t stand a chance against these despicable people. Bless her!
17:07 what happened to the audio?
Hi the audio cuts out at 16:57
I’m a spinster, guess it’s good that I’m not a rich one 😂
Old ladies are easy prey to con men.
So are much younger women. Check out all the romance scams, where women have turned over life savings to 'men' they've never met, except online.
All females are - it's called charm. For males - it's seduction. Same thing really.
The sound it’s gone…
What happened to the sound halfway through
Makes me wonder about his wife. Gullible? Gaslighted? Or willing to turn a "blind" eye so long as he brought home the money?
This is why I’m losing my faith in humanity , and that’s sad & not right 😢
Sorry but I am not saying it doesn’t happen but would a 71 year old lady be romantically involved with a married man. That’s a red flag for me
No point watching this as it has multiple missing audio sections so miss out key information
When you dont date until later life it leaves you very vulnerable and more likely to not see danger signs.
Its in the fucking eyes
Why do some regard money as everything?....
It's nauseating to hear the cops making value judgments on physical appearance, clothing, job, house, money as if that makeS them better people, less criminal, and more believable.
Why wait six mths to do DNA testing, what if someone had tampered with evidence. I question the adequacy of the police
The word I dislike is Geezer, some young punk gets in my face and calls me a Geezer will find their self on the ground.
I was SF for many years and I don't BS.
Thumbs down for the missing sound
Reminds me of the Richard Hillman story in coronation street. Does anyone remember?
Great job! I would've loved to see you strp put of your comfort zone and try taking the backs off if only for educational purposes. They turned out great though.
Can we please all agree to retire the word “spinster” once and for all? It’s an archaic word that’s quite demeaning and no longer holds meaning in modern society.
The first woman from Wales who sold up and moved near to Crittenden - what happened to her in the end?
What the f... sound comes and goes
A wolf in sheep's clothing.....A devious monster....😢
Six months...Wasn't it obvious at once that it was a murder ? Taking into account the scene.
Critter 😮
Heartbreaking story but amusing that 71 is considered elderly
People are so wicked over money aren't they? Talk about being a predator. This unfortunately happens everywhere and all the time. Sadly. We reap what we sow and what goes around comes around. 100% my experience.