I think imma sell my g29 with a 15’ wheel on it and buy this bad boy. I just got load cell pedals with the g29 and the wheel is the last thing I really need to upgrade. It’s out of stock rn but as soon as it’s in stock imma order one
yep this is what the other manufacturers didnt do, ive been waiting such a long time for this. Like over 20 years lol. This is safe for my kids to use too so I dont have to worry about them breaking joints.
Fantastic review! You’re the first person I’ve seen to consider the upgrade path and considering it as a step into the sim world for console users. Great production quality as well. It’s easy to see you put a lot of time and effort into this
i just bought this i am so excited for it to get here. I got it because i watched your video and i was like ok dag gone it i am gonna pull the trigger an git er done! thank you so much!!!
Awesome review..👍 You and Race Beyond Matter are one of the only reviewers that can forget you use the high end gear and give a completely objective review. 👌
Considering that the Fanatec Xbox compatible R2R bundle is $480 before shipping, and doesn't include the $30 table clamp, Moza made the best entry point to direct drive on console. If you factor in Fanatec's short comings, then the R3 bundle is a hands down winner despite the 1.1Nm advantage the CSL-DD has. Got to remember that the CSL-DD's 5Nm is being dampened by the plastic QR1L. Yeah... Moza is eating Fanatec's lunch now.
I like that the Fanatec CSL Pedals can be upgraded to a load cell. I don't think Moza offers an upgrade path for a load cell. Other than that, I don't see any advantage to Fanatec for the extra money. If you want a metal quick release on the CSL bases you have to spend $170 for their (aluminum) QR2 to upgrade the base and 1 wheel. $100 more to upgrade each additional wheel.
lol this guy has no clue what he is even talking about😂 Fanatec doesn’t dampen anything with the qr1 lite. Qr1 lite handles up to 8nm so it will work on csl and gt dd at 5nm and 8nm 😂 And the csl and gt dd are 1.1-4.1nm more powerful if you buy the 180 boost kit. Don’t listen to guys like this guy who just spits bullshit out of his mouth and probably doesn’t even own a wheel or if he does it’s a Logitech g29
you says its weird to use the word 'game-changing'. But it really is, for me personally. It's a sensible buy for someone wanting to try out sim racing like myself, the fact it's a direct drive wheel at the price it is and you become a part of an ecosystem with the R3 that you can freely upgrade at your own pace, depending whether I like it or love it!
I like your intro to SIM racing using R3 wheel. What your view comparing this to the R5 bundles ? Is there a very large difference btw these 2 bundles ?
Can the SRP non lite pedals work with the base? I saw a chart with red X in a chart but can't remember where i saw. It's on the compatibility, chart on bundle page, that the loadcell, reg srp one can only direct connect to PC, not to wheel base.
You review this as a starter kit but would this be a good upgrade from a Logitech 920? I have been looking at PXN V12 Lite and Fanatec CSL DD as well. All in the same price point. Trying to figure out which Direct Drive to upgrade to. Help!
Great review Shaun! I always like your straight-forward approach. I've been wheel-less for a while now due to circumstances beyond my control, and while my primary setup will always be PC, I have been wanting to get a wheel that would be versatile across consoles as well. Fanatec has long been the hybrid option, but I have to be honest, I've been concerned about the quality issues around the DD series to make a commitment as of yet. Glad to see Moza enter this arena, given the generally positive response to the line this past year. Did you get a chance to try the wheel with another base on the Xbox (assuming you still have the R12 or other Moza bases with the pedals input to try it on)? I'm guessing that like Fanatec, the compatibility is in the wheel itself as well.
@@Burl_Hurlbutt Yes, there ready2race bundle, It comes with Pedals, Wheel, and Wheelbase, for 399.95. Its also a 5nm CSL DD base, If you buy any wheel or pedals with CSL DD base it would cost 200 dollars.
@@Burl_Hurlbutt it does, but it locks you into a poor ecosystem. Very bad QR and you can't use their wheels on any other base but fanatec. They are also well known for poor customer service and quality control. Moza (as well as most other DD companies) is built MUCH stronger and you can use the wheel on any other base (minus fanatec). As someone with a wheelbase from neither company, I'm taking moza 100% of the time, 1nm means literally nothing.
I’d like to know how does the force feedback compare to something like the old Fanatec Porsche 911 GT3 RS wheel? That was the last wheel I had before I got flooded out and lost all my racing gear. If it’s stronger than that then I could be happy with it.
i have an R5 and i know this is is a little less but there is no doubt that any DD wheel will be smoother quicker and over all way more detialed than any Belt wheel i had a TSPC racer and the r5 is way better ff strength or not
@@UnitedSpotlight Thanks for the reply. In all honesty though since this question I've had an issue with another Moza product (camera gimbal) and these guys have been a ghost town when it comes to customer service. I filed a ticket and posted to their forums and haven't heard anything. This was Sept 21. There is no way I'm putting my racing future in their hands. I'm going Fanatec.
for me this kills all Thrustmaster belt drive wheels for round the same money, if your new to sim racing you either just buy a low end Logitech or get this R3 why would you even look at Thrustmaster at thus point.
hello great review. the ecosystem is good. I have a quick question about the upgrade. If over time I want to evolve on an R12 base with an Xbox wheel, does it work?
@@thebinalz No, it's the wheel that gives Xbox compatibility. It seems that with the R5 it doesn't work because of the base connections but that with the others it should work...
what a great package, this is the trickle down we've been waiting for to bring sim racing to the masses!
I think imma sell my g29 with a 15’ wheel on it and buy this bad boy. I just got load cell pedals with the g29 and the wheel is the last thing I really need to upgrade. It’s out of stock rn but as soon as it’s in stock imma order one
yep this is what the other manufacturers didnt do, ive been waiting such a long time for this. Like over 20 years lol. This is safe for my kids to use too so I dont have to worry about them breaking joints.
Fantastic review! You’re the first person I’ve seen to consider the upgrade path and considering it as a step into the sim world for console users. Great production quality as well. It’s easy to see you put a lot of time and effort into this
i just bought this i am so excited for it to get here. I got it because i watched your video and i was like ok dag gone it i am gonna pull the trigger an git er done! thank you so much!!!
Awesome review..👍 You and Race Beyond Matter are one of the only reviewers that can forget you use the high end gear and give a completely objective review. 👌
Considering that the Fanatec Xbox compatible R2R bundle is $480 before shipping, and doesn't include the $30 table clamp, Moza made the best entry point to direct drive on console. If you factor in Fanatec's short comings, then the R3 bundle is a hands down winner despite the 1.1Nm advantage the CSL-DD has. Got to remember that the CSL-DD's 5Nm is being dampened by the plastic QR1L.
Yeah... Moza is eating Fanatec's lunch now.
For real
I like that the Fanatec CSL Pedals can be upgraded to a load cell. I don't think Moza offers an upgrade path for a load cell. Other than that, I don't see any advantage to Fanatec for the extra money. If you want a metal quick release on the CSL bases you have to spend $170 for their (aluminum) QR2 to upgrade the base and 1 wheel. $100 more to upgrade each additional wheel.
lol this guy has no clue what he is even talking about😂
Fanatec doesn’t dampen anything with the qr1 lite. Qr1 lite handles up to 8nm so it will work on csl and gt dd at 5nm and 8nm 😂
And the csl and gt dd are 1.1-4.1nm more powerful if you buy the 180 boost kit.
Don’t listen to guys like this guy who just spits bullshit out of his mouth and probably doesn’t even own a wheel or if he does it’s a Logitech g29
Ironic that the wheel base looks almost exactly like the original xbox 😂
Not really ironic, its meant for xbox. If it was for ps, than sure. And also im pretty sure it was intentional.
But wait , there's more ! Always enjoy the thoroughness and honesty of Your reviews.
This is going to be a best seller for Xbox me thinks, awesome value.
5:21 keep in mind that this is only a 400 dollar package. and again keep it in mind.
you says its weird to use the word 'game-changing'. But it really is, for me personally. It's a sensible buy for someone wanting to try out sim racing like myself, the fact it's a direct drive wheel at the price it is and you become a part of an ecosystem with the R3 that you can freely upgrade at your own pace, depending whether I like it or love it!
It will be interesting to see if they ever seek out Sony licencing and produce a Playstation compatible version of the R3 base.
They should, It would kill Logitech and TM, force them to do something new. And Make Fanatec worry.
"we can not confirm but were working on it" i saw another review from SRC channel, he asked them about a PS version and thats what they said 🙏🏻
I like your intro to SIM racing using R3 wheel. What your view comparing this to the R5 bundles ? Is there a very large difference btw these 2 bundles ?
hopefully the X box wheel works on the standard Moza base.
Can't beat this price especially considering the Thrustmaster TX and T300RS packages are the same price or more. TM is really overpriced right now.
Tm has always been overpriced 😂
This could easily be a Logitech/ thrustmaster killer
More like fanatic killer
@@d1of1c243why
@@d1of1c243but why should anybody buy Thrustmaster or Logitech in the future when u can get DD for this Price?
They've a app now for console so you can set your settings like a PC 16:08
Can the SRP non lite pedals work with the base? I saw a chart with red X in a chart but can't remember where i saw. It's on the compatibility, chart on bundle page, that the loadcell, reg srp one can only direct connect to PC, not to wheel base.
I wish it was PS5 compatible , as usual great review Shaun .
You review this as a starter kit but would this be a good upgrade from a Logitech 920? I have been looking at PXN V12 Lite and Fanatec CSL DD as well. All in the same price point. Trying to figure out which Direct Drive to upgrade to. Help!
When are they gonna let us buy it...
Why its not release yet
Great review. Have just been let down by Fanatec for their XBox bundle for Forza so I'm gonna wait for this now instead.
When is this releasing ?
Which wheel is better this one or the Thrustmaster Leather edition looking for one for Xbox quite new to sim racing
any info on when these xbox ones are going to be availible?
Be great, I want one bad for my pc Xbox combo setup, if it would ever hit the shelf
I'm so sad that it's out of stock. I would get an r3 bundle with a clutch pedal, and i would drift with a logitech shifter and an ebay handbrake.
Any hacks or upgrades that you can purchase to make the pedals feel better like adding a spring to the brake?
Theres no link or even anyway to get to a purchase link thriugh google searches.
What is the chassis in this video?
Great review Shaun! I always like your straight-forward approach. I've been wheel-less for a while now due to circumstances beyond my control, and while my primary setup will always be PC, I have been wanting to get a wheel that would be versatile across consoles as well. Fanatec has long been the hybrid option, but I have to be honest, I've been concerned about the quality issues around the DD series to make a commitment as of yet. Glad to see Moza enter this arena, given the generally positive response to the line this past year. Did you get a chance to try the wheel with another base on the Xbox (assuming you still have the R12 or other Moza bases with the pedals input to try it on)? I'm guessing that like Fanatec, the compatibility is in the wheel itself as well.
Do you have to use the moza shifter or could a logitech one work for example?
hi, can this R3 enable the moza hgp handbrake and shifter on XBOX? Thanks.
Would the r3 bundle work on the one s or only next gen
Does anyone know when and or IF Moza plans on releasing a PS5 compatible bundle?
Is it still pc compatible? and when does it come out
finally the perfect budget wheel, a DD with pedals for only $400 for a full kit, and it only works on xbox and pc. i play GT7. FML
What do you mean wireless wheel? You don’t need to plug it to usb-a on the Xbox?
Yup, it connects wirelessly to the wheelbase
I guess we will never know until we actually receive one after making payment
is this upgrade from T300 or is it kinda the same?
A DD wheel is always going to be an upgrade to a belt driven wheel
goodbye logitech, goodbye thrustmaster. All hail the moza takeover.
Fanatec sweating real hard right now
Fanatec has 5nm at 400 dollars compared to Mozas shitty 3nm for 400 dollars. They shouldve made it like 300 for a R3 base.
@@Grineck Does that come with pedals and a wheel?
@@Burl_Hurlbutt Yes, there ready2race bundle, It comes with Pedals, Wheel, and Wheelbase, for 399.95. Its also a 5nm CSL DD base, If you buy any wheel or pedals with CSL DD base it would cost 200 dollars.
@@Burl_Hurlbutt it does, but it locks you into a poor ecosystem. Very bad QR and you can't use their wheels on any other base but fanatec. They are also well known for poor customer service and quality control. Moza (as well as most other DD companies) is built MUCH stronger and you can use the wheel on any other base (minus fanatec). As someone with a wheelbase from neither company, I'm taking moza 100% of the time, 1nm means literally nothing.
@@Grineck You can't get the Fanatec 5nm base with a wheel and pedals for $400. Plus the R3 is 3.9nm not 3nm
I don't know if I missed it in the video or not but did they give you an estimated date when this thing is supposed to get released?
Unfortunately, we don't have a release date yet...
So this wheel will connect to an xbox wirelessly? How is latency with this? I assume you can connect via USB if you choose to?
I think no wheels connect wireless. This bundle use usb
I’d like to know how does the force feedback compare to something like the old Fanatec Porsche 911 GT3 RS wheel? That was the last wheel I had before I got flooded out and lost all my racing gear. If it’s stronger than that then I could be happy with it.
i have an R5 and i know this is is a little less but there is no doubt that any DD wheel will be smoother quicker and over all way more detialed than any Belt wheel i had a TSPC racer and the r5 is way better ff strength or not
@@UnitedSpotlight Thanks for the reply. In all honesty though since this question I've had an issue with another Moza product (camera gimbal) and these guys have been a ghost town when it comes to customer service. I filed a ticket and posted to their forums and haven't heard anything. This was Sept 21. There is no way I'm putting my racing future in their hands. I'm going Fanatec.
Great review. Is it possible to put this rim on a R5 and make it work on Xbox?
I think only the R3 base will work on Xbox
@liamclarke6673 wrong it works with the 3 5 and 12
what about 9? @@davefarmery8180
i used to be a thrustmaster boy....Now im a Moza man 🏎🚓🚓🚓🚓
Thrustmster ts-xw sparco or R3 what's better? for Xbox series x?
My same question. I'm looking at getting the TS-XW, BUT WONDERING IF THIS WOULD BE BETTER
R3 sold out... Waiting
Take my money
Has this ever been available? It seems there's minimal evidence of regular consumers being able to buy this
Nope. Fanatec's ready-to-race bundle is the same money but comes with the added benefit of having an upgrade path full of vast amounts of options.
The $400 dollar bundle does not have the wheel compatible for Xbox. So you would have to pay an extra 80 dollars.
Now I’m waiting for the PlayStation version
Now make a review of your classic GULF coloured racing shoes =)
for me this kills all Thrustmaster belt drive wheels for round the same money, if your new to sim racing you either just buy a low end Logitech or get this R3 why would you even look at Thrustmaster at thus point.
hello great review. the ecosystem is good. I have a quick question about the upgrade. If over time I want to evolve on an R12 base with an Xbox wheel, does it work?
I think not, saw on another channel that the xbox code or something is inside the wheelbase not the wheel itself
@@thebinalz No, it's the wheel that gives Xbox compatibility. It seems that with the R5 it doesn't work because of the base connections but that with the others it should work...
Yes it works as long as you have a base where you can plug in the pedals. Boosted media tested it with the r5 and the r12.
If this was $300.. it would wreck the budget market
nice one ....but YOU CAN GET FANATEC CSL DD 5nm bundle for 399€ atm which is the better option i would say
It’s still 100usd cheaper than the CSL for Xbox players.
3.9nm :) missed a .1 there :P
I have to ask with the Xbox wheel on say an R5 will the Xbox utilize the R5?
It won't, only the R3 is Xbox licensed.
Thanks :)
@@TheSimpit
Boosted media tried it on the r5 and r12 and it worked. The license is in the wheel, not the base.
MOZA now need to make a R3 NOT XBOX compatible bundle for 349$!!! :D
Sponsor me moza pls pls pls 😅 love ur sim setups
What about PC can it play on PC
Of course
I'm holding out for the R1.
But wait.....there is more.... 😂
RIP T300
Now the console squeakers will stfu, you now have another DD option, LOL.
really hard to listen to this guy
Will the base fit with playseat challenge or do you need to do some modifications to get it on ??
You'll be able to use 2 holes out of the 4 on the wheel deck or you can get the adapter from Moza to secure it with 4 screws.