Dont wanna confuse people much with numbers but when you start refining an item - the FIRST and SECOND refines you do, aim for 23-25% ! Yes, it might seam too high for many people BUT , you dont spend gems for the first one and the 2k gems you spend when you lock the first refine is basically 2 or 3 times less than later. Having 2x Refines of 23-25% FIRST means 46-50% buffs with just 2 refines. If you lock at 15% ... you have 45% buffs with 3 refines which you spend probably way more gems to get them, since locking 2 refines increases the price drastically. On your 3rd refine you can lower your expectations to 20-23% (because its more expensive each time). For the last one, just leave the first 15%+ you find until you are ready to come back on this specific piece and improve it. DONT lock low value refines as your first or second refines... coming back later to fix them will cost you SO MUCH MORE! Especially the 4th refine... Also dont forget, you have way higher chances to find good refines because you are rolling 4 different refine-slots each time! Its better to have 2x Refines of high value and STOP there! (thats 46-50%). Rather than having 4x Refines of low value ( 51.4% for the chest piece on the video as an example) which you will have to re-do them all again probably later! It costs less and its more future-proof and cost effective. Revisiting an item with low values and fixing the 4th refine... means you are locking 3 refines! Thats 6k gems PER CLICK! Which you will need to do for all your low values!
Pretty much the way I do it. I go for 2 usable refines then go with it. I may come back later for a piece that I consider critical. As a freeloader I must be frugal with my assets. Thanks again for dropping more Evony Bites.
First, i really target if i can get a civ gear for it then first thing i target gold one even if i get my first gold if it's less i still don't lock it cuz gems are expensive , once i get my first gold one then i lock it and can spend 2k , then still target for 2nd gold one if you have some others purple one while doing it keep and still continue to get gold and then same way to do all the rest
Singh has a really good video about his refining process when he used to play, never take anything less than what you wouldn't be willing to change later so I guess you could say I adapted that philosophy a little bit from him. Make the refining make sense so that you're not doing double or triple the work for yourself..
It all depends on patience! everyone is so inpatient in this game all you gotta do is save for a couple months and lock the best yes I get the video take what you can get to use it now but at the end of the day wait a few months save gems gold and stones and do it on the refining event to me this seems like you just willing to get what you can to use the general hey nothing wrong with skipping a few svs or battlefields to get good refines and yes I do it this way sometimes as well I’m not perfect but I think patience is key 🔑
I didn't present this as an alternative to getting higher results. I meant this for day one making the gear. I personally don't need to wait and can usually do my refines anytime. But I like to leave and return, leave and return. The goal I think for everyone is to end up with high 20s. It is fun to dig into how various people do so. Thank you.
i only ever use refining stones on civ gear, roll for gold attributes only. locking in a purple or even orange is a waste of gems, refining stones and also takes away the random roll of that line item in additional rolls.
I certainly like the point about removing those lines from possible future gold rolls. That's a solid point. I'm not sure waiting on only gold is technically cheaper though still lol. On the basis of cheaper alone.
It is definitely cheaper, I do the same thing. I only accept gold refines and I'm a way lower coiner than the both of you. I can't imagine there being a more expensive way to refine than the way you're doing it.
I set a gem limit, sometimes it's per week or month, depending on where I stand with refining stones, gold, gems There's no way I ever sit and refine and smash my face into my phone for hours, I take screenshots of my stock pile and compare the benefits of research stones or tact scrolls versus spending my refining stones Advanced refines are priority first if I haven't done any refining in a while. Then I just kind of go from there without taking anything less than 17% just depends what I'm going for it changes based on those factors if it's civ gear and I really want it I will go all out.
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Dont wanna confuse people much with numbers but when you start refining an item - the FIRST and SECOND refines you do, aim for 23-25% !
Yes, it might seam too high for many people BUT , you dont spend gems for the first one and the 2k gems you spend when you lock the first refine is basically 2 or 3 times less than later. Having 2x Refines of 23-25% FIRST means 46-50% buffs with just 2 refines. If you lock at 15% ... you have 45% buffs with 3 refines which you spend probably way more gems to get them, since locking 2 refines increases the price drastically. On your 3rd refine you can lower your expectations to 20-23% (because its more expensive each time). For the last one, just leave the first 15%+ you find until you are ready to come back on this specific piece and improve it.
DONT lock low value refines as your first or second refines... coming back later to fix them will cost you SO MUCH MORE! Especially the 4th refine... Also dont forget, you have way higher chances to find good refines because you are rolling 4 different refine-slots each time!
Its better to have 2x Refines of high value and STOP there! (thats 46-50%). Rather than having 4x Refines of low value ( 51.4% for the chest piece on the video as an example) which you will have to re-do them all again probably later! It costs less and its more future-proof and cost effective. Revisiting an item with low values and fixing the 4th refine... means you are locking 3 refines! Thats 6k gems PER CLICK! Which you will need to do for all your low values!
Pretty much the way I do it. I go for 2 usable refines then go with it. I may come back later for a piece that I consider critical. As a freeloader I must be frugal with my assets.
Thanks again for dropping more Evony Bites.
Refining is crazy expensive. Pallas event is the only real way to be cheaper.
First, i really target if i can get a civ gear for it then first thing i target gold one even if i get my first gold if it's less i still don't lock it cuz gems are expensive , once i get my first gold one then i lock it and can spend 2k , then still target for 2nd gold one if you have some others purple one while doing it keep and still continue to get gold and then same way to do all the rest
Singh has a really good video about his refining process when he used to play, never take anything less than what you wouldn't be willing to change later so I guess you could say I adapted that philosophy a little bit from him.
Make the refining make sense so that you're not doing double or triple the work for yourself..
It all depends on patience! everyone is so inpatient in this game all you gotta do is save for a couple months and lock the best yes I get the video take what you can get to use it now but at the end of the day wait a few months save gems gold and stones and do it on the refining event to me this seems like you just willing to get what you can to use the general hey nothing wrong with skipping a few svs or battlefields to get good refines and yes I do it this way sometimes as well I’m not perfect but I think patience is key 🔑
I didn't present this as an alternative to getting higher results. I meant this for day one making the gear. I personally don't need to wait and can usually do my refines anytime. But I like to leave and return, leave and return. The goal I think for everyone is to end up with high 20s. It is fun to dig into how various people do so. Thank you.
i only ever use refining stones on civ gear, roll for gold attributes only. locking in a purple or even orange is a waste of gems, refining stones and also takes away the random roll of that line item in additional rolls.
I certainly like the point about removing those lines from possible future gold rolls. That's a solid point. I'm not sure waiting on only gold is technically cheaper though still lol. On the basis of cheaper alone.
It is definitely cheaper, I do the same thing. I only accept gold refines and I'm a way lower coiner than the both of you. I can't imagine there being a more expensive way to refine than the way you're doing it.
good video me and you do it excatly the same thx for sharing
I set a gem limit, sometimes it's per week or month, depending on where I stand with refining stones, gold, gems
There's no way I ever sit and refine and smash my face into my phone for hours, I take screenshots of my stock pile and compare the benefits of research stones or tact scrolls versus spending my refining stones
Advanced refines are priority first if I haven't done any refining in a while.
Then I just kind of go from there without taking anything less than 17% just depends what I'm going for it changes based on those factors if it's civ gear and I really want it I will go all out.
"Sit and refine and smash my face into my phone" line of the month lol
精煉不是這樣操作的，你不能鎖定紫色的屬性，你只是在浪費你的寶石
There's always one... thanks for your input.
Anyone refining this way is just wasting gems for the long game this is terrible "teaching"
Thanks for the input!