If your gonna make a ground wall your problem is your wall Gen. Leonidas would be a better option, my base ground at k36 is way more than yours. I think your right in that with ground wall you need more but your best bet is Leonidas as he provides range buff also. Something else that a lot of people do not consider on Def is scaling tiers. Instead of 1b you'd fair better with 500m t1 400m t2 100m t3 10m t4. Just scaling up those 4 would give you enough. That's my current observation for ground wall. Is the scale up. Also I think the idea of mount = attack is the wrong approach for ground, your advantage is HP and Def over other troops. You should be flat refining your HP and Defense more so than and focusing more on in city Def and in city hp. 2000% buff defense would be more easily achievable then 2000% attk and would be more beneficial then attack for defense. I think that misconception is based on mount troops, bigger attack = better Def, but Def in of its own is a the best Def. If that makes sense. As someone who's unorthodox I think you'll deal better with range and other marches if they aren't able to kill your ground. That's HP and Def.
it is a great video thank you very much!! a small tip: you can bid on vip to get 25k vip points from auction house. thats how i got from vip 13 to vip15, gives you another preset slot and a sub city slot. a video about the differences of t1 cav trap and t1 ground trap would be awesome!
@@nabeelbhatti767 between 80k gems and 200k. some Lunatics are upping their biddings to 300k. need to get lucky to win with low but its possible. and you always get your gems back if someone overbids you
ATENTIE ... NU VA INSTALATI ACEST JOC ... IN ACEST JOC O SA PRIMITI MULTE MESAJE CA SA INTRODUCETI BANI ... VA SPUN DESPRE MINE ...CARE AM PIERDUT 2 lUNI JUMATE SI AM JUCAT ACEST JOC ...AM PIERDUT MULT TIMP SI DUPA CE ADMINISTRATORII ACESTUI JOC A VAZUT CA NU INTRODUC BANI ...AU PUS BAG PE CONT .......AM REUSIT SA FAC LVL 26 ...SI DUPA AU OPRIT CONTUL MEU ....AU CONSTATAT CA NU BAG BANI IN CEA CE CER EI IN JOC....NU RECOMAND ...ESTE FACKE .... DACA NU CREDETI INTRATI JUCATI 2LUNI JUMATE CA MINE SI O SA VEDETI CA O SA VA BAGE BUGG PE CONT ....O ZI BUNA ....... NU RECOMAND SI ACEST JOC ESTE FACKE
Есть ещё идея. Не знаю, как это будет работать. Что, если сделать усиления в числах для пехоты - защиту и ож, а атака - лучники, и сделать защиту из т1 лучников и пехоты? Пехота будет сдерживать вражеские войска за счёт хороших очков защиты и ож, и тем временем лучники смогут нанести хороший урон. Я ещё не начал делать т1, так как тогда не так весело в свс, но такая идея уже давно у меня
the reason why people dont build like that is because you need to focus all your refines on one type. if you build too much t1 siege then you will get siege rallied. if you build too much t1 archers then they can range rally or siege rally depending how many t1 cavs you have
То есть, к примеру, даже по 500м т1 лучников и пехоты с этими усилениями не помогут? Если будут всё время слои, то у лучников т1 есть преимущество над лучниками высокого уровня из-за того, что лучники т1 раньше начнут стрелять по вражеским лучникам и пока твои слои лучников умрут, большая часть лучников противника высокого уровня могут за это время умрёт. Кавалерией невыгодно бить. Если у тебя есть кавалерия, и ты её в случае ралли осадой отзываешь, то осада может не добраться до лучников т1. В случае ралли пехотой, также отзывать кавалерию можно, и пока пехота т1 сдерживает пехоту, лучники успеют убить слои кавалерии и лучников и настрелять достаточно по пехоте противника. Я думаю, что это может работать таким образом
@@Nikolai9391if you want to build level 1 ground then dont build level 1 archers because archers die after all horses die but if you have alot of level 1 horses then its safe to build archers. however i do think level 1 archers arent as strong as they seem building level 14 13 12 archers help in defense much more but you only want to build enough that you can ghost edit: what im saying is you either want to build level 1 horses or ground as your main defense but ground defense is much harder to understand. with horse defense your archers are safe. Building level 14 archers and increasing your range attack on defense helps the most against ground attack rallies.But you want to always ghost your level 14,13 range because siege solo can kill it easily
Понял, спасибо за совет. Кавалерия т1 - слишком просто, и все знают, как против неё противостоять. Поэтому наверное если буду делать т1, наверное тоже сделаю пехоту, тоже об этом думал не раз) Мне нравится думать в этой игре, а не делать как все. Так что буду испытывать и этот способ защиты, как придёт время. А пока буду наслаждаться игрой от призрака)
Возможно против соло такая ловушка будет довольно эффективна, но не против ралли. И ещё, если защита от т1 кавалерии, то лучники т1 наверное будут бесполезны, так как без усилений в виде чисел они будут слабы. И ресурсы эти можно сэкономить на что-то поважнее. А эти усиления для кавалерии будут нужнее
I would suggest not making any more ground T1, you already have a billion. I think adding 100m t2 ground and 50m t3 ground would help much more as a buffer to help you survive an extra hit or two
in my opinion i dont have enough t1. the ground attack is simply too low my 1b ground is like 400m t1 cavs in terms of damage so i dont feel safe. i would say after i reach 1.5- 2b t1 adding a buffer layer wouldnt be a bad idea but i havent experimented with a t2 t3 buffer layer yet. edit: ill be testing my defense this chalons so ill be able to make a good plan moving forward so see if 1b t1 is enough damage or not im not a expert but my experience as ground wall is that adding another 1b t1 would probably help alot to a certain point
Okay give it a shot, remember that there is a cap on the amount of troops you can have in a tier though. I can't remember exact number, I think it's roughly, 2.5B, so eventually if you hit that cap then you might want to start t2 or doing some t1 Cavs as well
@@Potatofire876 i heard from other people that building both t1 horses and t1 ground is a liability since you want full flats on one of them. and without full flats it gives away points. the main goal of my defense is going positive in points. i would say its probably worth it once you stop ghosting high tier ground but i dont have 2500% buffs on defense to do that yet.
Adding t2-t3 actually works really well, insanely well with cav. I run 1bill t1 300mill T2 150 mill t3 75mill t4 50 mill t5 with layers of 500k and 1mill on Cavs. Before I started working in the 4&5 I only ran tiers 1-2-3 and it was the strongest I ever was gave me the ability to actually take rallys solo in some cases.
Debes tener mucho poder en ataque de arqueros, porque el rally de caballería es muy fuerte, pueden hacer mucho daño a tus T1, también tener en cuenta que el asedio t11 en rally mata arqueros.
yes i agree archers help me the most. i mostly rely on my alliance members to also reinforce me with archers which helps me kill them before the enemy kills my t1 ground
depends really sometimes they can kill my t12 range if they are pretty strong but thats mostly because of low buffs if im up against a k44+ i change my playstyle. but i think if they do go big siege on me and they catch my t12 range then i slightly go negative especially if they send 4 attacking siege layers at me edit: the way im fixing this is making more t1 and increasing march size so i can ghost more and more easily right now i got a ton of range.
ATENTIE ... NU VA INSTALATI ACEST JOC ... IN ACEST JOC O SA PRIMITI MULTE MESAJE CA SA INTRODUCETI BANI ... VA SPUN DESPRE MINE ...CARE AM PIERDUT 2 lUNI JUMATE SI AM JUCAT ACEST JOC ...AM PIERDUT MULT TIMP SI DUPA CE ADMINISTRATORII ACESTUI JOC A VAZUT CA NU INTRODUC BANI ...AU PUS BAG PE CONT .......AM REUSIT SA FAC LVL 26 ...SI DUPA AU OPRIT CONTUL MEU ....AU CONSTATAT CA NU BAG BANI IN CEA CE CER EI IN JOC....NU RECOMAND ...ESTE FACKE .... DACA NU CREDETI INTRATI JUCATI 2LUNI JUMATE CA MINE SI O SA VEDETI CA O SA VA BAGE BUGG PE CONT ....O ZI BUNA ....... NU RECOMAND SI ACEST JOC ESTE FACKE
ATENTIE ... NU VA INSTALATI ACEST JOC ... IN ACEST JOC O SA PRIMITI MULTE MESAJE CA SA INTRODUCETI BANI ... VA SPUN DESPRE MINE ...CARE AM PIERDUT 2 lUNI JUMATE SI AM JUCAT ACEST JOC ...AM PIERDUT MULT TIMP SI DUPA CE ADMINISTRATORII ACESTUI JOC A VAZUT CA NU INTRODUC BANI ...AU PUS BAG PE CONT .......AM REUSIT SA FAC LVL 26 ...SI DUPA AU OPRIT CONTUL MEU ....AU CONSTATAT CA NU BAG BANI IN CEA CE CER EI IN JOC....NU RECOMAND ...ESTE FACKE .... DACA NU CREDETI INTRATI JUCATI 2LUNI JUMATE CA MINE SI O SA VEDETI CA O SA VA BAGE BUGG PE CONT ....O ZI BUNA ....... NU RECOMAND SI ACEST JOC ESTE FACKE
Thoroughly enjoyed your video man
If your gonna make a ground wall your problem is your wall Gen. Leonidas would be a better option, my base ground at k36 is way more than yours. I think your right in that with ground wall you need more but your best bet is Leonidas as he provides range buff also. Something else that a lot of people do not consider on Def is scaling tiers. Instead of 1b you'd fair better with 500m t1 400m t2 100m t3 10m t4. Just scaling up those 4 would give you enough. That's my current observation for ground wall. Is the scale up. Also I think the idea of mount = attack is the wrong approach for ground, your advantage is HP and Def over other troops. You should be flat refining your HP and Defense more so than and focusing more on in city Def and in city hp. 2000% buff defense would be more easily achievable then 2000% attk and would be more beneficial then attack for defense. I think that misconception is based on mount troops, bigger attack = better Def, but Def in of its own is a the best Def. If that makes sense. As someone who's unorthodox I think you'll deal better with range and other marches if they aren't able to kill your ground. That's HP and Def.
it is a great video thank you very much!! a small tip: you can bid on vip to get 25k vip points from auction house. thats how i got from vip 13 to vip15, gives you another preset slot and a sub city slot. a video about the differences of t1 cav trap and t1 ground trap would be awesome!
How much did you spend on biding for 25k vip points?
@@nabeelbhatti767 between 80k gems and 200k. some Lunatics are upping their biddings to 300k. need to get lucky to win with low but its possible. and you always get your gems back if someone overbids you
ATENTIE ... NU VA INSTALATI ACEST JOC ... IN ACEST JOC O SA PRIMITI MULTE MESAJE CA SA INTRODUCETI BANI ... VA SPUN DESPRE MINE ...CARE AM PIERDUT 2 lUNI JUMATE SI AM JUCAT ACEST JOC ...AM PIERDUT MULT TIMP SI DUPA CE ADMINISTRATORII ACESTUI JOC A VAZUT CA NU INTRODUC BANI ...AU PUS BAG PE CONT .......AM REUSIT SA FAC LVL 26 ...SI DUPA AU OPRIT CONTUL MEU ....AU CONSTATAT CA NU BAG BANI IN CEA CE CER EI IN JOC....NU RECOMAND ...ESTE FACKE .... DACA NU CREDETI INTRATI JUCATI 2LUNI JUMATE CA MINE SI O SA VEDETI CA O SA VA BAGE BUGG PE CONT ....O ZI BUNA ....... NU RECOMAND SI ACEST JOC ESTE FACKE
Please post the video after chalons all the best for the fight Ground T1 looks interesting
Есть ещё идея. Не знаю, как это будет работать. Что, если сделать усиления в числах для пехоты - защиту и ож, а атака - лучники, и сделать защиту из т1 лучников и пехоты? Пехота будет сдерживать вражеские войска за счёт хороших очков защиты и ож, и тем временем лучники смогут нанести хороший урон. Я ещё не начал делать т1, так как тогда не так весело в свс, но такая идея уже давно у меня
the reason why people dont build like that is because you need to focus all your refines on one type. if you build too much t1 siege then you will get siege rallied. if you build too much t1 archers then they can range rally or siege rally depending how many t1 cavs you have
То есть, к примеру, даже по 500м т1 лучников и пехоты с этими усилениями не помогут? Если будут всё время слои, то у лучников т1 есть преимущество над лучниками высокого уровня из-за того, что лучники т1 раньше начнут стрелять по вражеским лучникам и пока твои слои лучников умрут, большая часть лучников противника высокого уровня могут за это время умрёт. Кавалерией невыгодно бить. Если у тебя есть кавалерия, и ты её в случае ралли осадой отзываешь, то осада может не добраться до лучников т1. В случае ралли пехотой, также отзывать кавалерию можно, и пока пехота т1 сдерживает пехоту, лучники успеют убить слои кавалерии и лучников и настрелять достаточно по пехоте противника. Я думаю, что это может работать таким образом
@@Nikolai9391if you want to build level 1 ground then dont build level 1 archers because archers die after all horses die but if you have alot of level 1 horses then its safe to build archers. however i do think level 1 archers arent as strong as they seem building level 14 13 12 archers help in defense much more but you only want to build enough that you can ghost
edit: what im saying is you either want to build level 1 horses or ground as your main defense but ground defense is much harder to understand. with horse defense your archers are safe. Building level 14 archers and increasing your range attack on defense helps the most against ground attack rallies.But you want to always ghost your level 14,13 range because siege solo can kill it easily
Понял, спасибо за совет. Кавалерия т1 - слишком просто, и все знают, как против неё противостоять. Поэтому наверное если буду делать т1, наверное тоже сделаю пехоту, тоже об этом думал не раз) Мне нравится думать в этой игре, а не делать как все. Так что буду испытывать и этот способ защиты, как придёт время. А пока буду наслаждаться игрой от призрака)
Возможно против соло такая ловушка будет довольно эффективна, но не против ралли.
И ещё, если защита от т1 кавалерии, то лучники т1 наверное будут бесполезны, так как без усилений в виде чисел они будут слабы. И ресурсы эти можно сэкономить на что-то поважнее. А эти усиления для кавалерии будут нужнее
I would suggest not making any more ground T1, you already have a billion. I think adding 100m t2 ground and 50m t3 ground would help much more as a buffer to help you survive an extra hit or two
in my opinion i dont have enough t1. the ground attack is simply too low my 1b ground is like 400m t1 cavs in terms of damage so i dont feel safe. i would say after i reach 1.5- 2b t1 adding a buffer layer wouldnt be a bad idea but i havent experimented with a t2 t3 buffer layer yet.
edit: ill be testing my defense this chalons so ill be able to make a good plan moving forward so see if 1b t1 is enough damage or not
im not a expert but my experience as ground wall is that adding another 1b t1 would probably help alot to a certain point
Okay give it a shot, remember that there is a cap on the amount of troops you can have in a tier though. I can't remember exact number, I think it's roughly, 2.5B, so eventually if you hit that cap then you might want to start t2 or doing some t1 Cavs as well
@@Potatofire876 i heard from other people that building both t1 horses and t1 ground is a liability since you want full flats on one of them. and without full flats it gives away points. the main goal of my defense is going positive in points. i would say its probably worth it once you stop ghosting high tier ground but i dont have 2500% buffs on defense to do that yet.
Adding t2-t3 actually works really well, insanely well with cav. I run 1bill t1 300mill T2 150 mill t3 75mill t4 50 mill t5 with layers of 500k and 1mill on Cavs. Before I started working in the 4&5 I only ran tiers 1-2-3 and it was the strongest I ever was gave me the ability to actually take rallys solo in some cases.
These bigger keeps and 4k buffs are making it harder
Debes tener mucho poder en ataque de arqueros, porque el rally de caballería es muy fuerte, pueden hacer mucho daño a tus T1, también tener en cuenta que el asedio t11 en rally mata arqueros.
yes i agree archers help me the most. i mostly rely on my alliance members to also reinforce me with archers which helps me kill them before the enemy kills my t1 ground
Great video🎉
Doesn’t a k44 siege attack easily go very positiv against you?
depends really sometimes they can kill my t12 range if they are pretty strong but thats mostly because of low buffs if im up against a k44+ i change my playstyle. but i think if they do go big siege on me and they catch my t12 range then i slightly go negative especially if they send 4 attacking siege layers at me
edit: the way im fixing this is making more t1 and increasing march size so i can ghost more and more easily right now i got a ton of range.
ATENTIE ... NU VA INSTALATI ACEST JOC ... IN ACEST JOC O SA PRIMITI MULTE MESAJE CA SA INTRODUCETI BANI ... VA SPUN DESPRE MINE ...CARE AM PIERDUT 2 lUNI JUMATE SI AM JUCAT ACEST JOC ...AM PIERDUT MULT TIMP SI DUPA CE ADMINISTRATORII ACESTUI JOC A VAZUT CA NU INTRODUC BANI ...AU PUS BAG PE CONT .......AM REUSIT SA FAC LVL 26 ...SI DUPA AU OPRIT CONTUL MEU ....AU CONSTATAT CA NU BAG BANI IN CEA CE CER EI IN JOC....NU RECOMAND ...ESTE FACKE .... DACA NU CREDETI INTRATI JUCATI 2LUNI JUMATE CA MINE SI O SA VEDETI CA O SA VA BAGE BUGG PE CONT ....O ZI BUNA ....... NU RECOMAND SI ACEST JOC ESTE FACKE
ATENTIE ... NU VA INSTALATI ACEST JOC ... IN ACEST JOC O SA PRIMITI MULTE MESAJE CA SA INTRODUCETI BANI ... VA SPUN DESPRE MINE ...CARE AM PIERDUT 2 lUNI JUMATE SI AM JUCAT ACEST JOC ...AM PIERDUT MULT TIMP SI DUPA CE ADMINISTRATORII ACESTUI JOC A VAZUT CA NU INTRODUC BANI ...AU PUS BAG PE CONT .......AM REUSIT SA FAC LVL 26 ...SI DUPA AU OPRIT CONTUL MEU ....AU CONSTATAT CA NU BAG BANI IN CEA CE CER EI IN JOC....NU RECOMAND ...ESTE FACKE .... DACA NU CREDETI INTRATI JUCATI 2LUNI JUMATE CA MINE SI O SA VEDETI CA O SA VA BAGE BUGG PE CONT ....O ZI BUNA ....... NU RECOMAND SI ACEST JOC ESTE FACKE