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[OLD] Sonic Forces Review (PS4)

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  • @GoldenJLR
    @GoldenJLR 6 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    "The bosses are the highlight of the game". The final boss is the same from Sonic Colors but instead to be purple it is white

    • @italianfoodname534
      @italianfoodname534 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      James Plata He also gave the Evil Within 2 a 8/10 and said some sections of it were "masterful". What were you expecting?

    • @thejedisonic67
      @thejedisonic67 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      He once called Knack a good game and gave it a 7/10. What a fool, it should've been a 10/5 because Knack is a KNACKSTAPIECE

    • @pootisbear
      @pootisbear 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Lelouch Vi Britannia Yeah and the majority of major game critics also gave it 7-8's so I don't see what you're going for at all...

    • @italianfoodname534
      @italianfoodname534 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      PootisBear Mainly because it's a mediocre piece of garbage. A lot of people I've asked agree with me

    • @thegoodoldays911
      @thegoodoldays911 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are like 3 bosses lol.

  • @thebahooplamaster
    @thebahooplamaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1100

    The sad part is that this game would've been good if the level designers from Sonic Generations and colors were designing them. Scratch that, it didn't even need that. It just needed longer levels.

    • @timb7702
      @timb7702 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      There are levels in this game?

    • @OmegaReconGaming
      @OmegaReconGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      thebahooplamaster Hmhm Well I don’t think generations holds up as well tbh. Also colors sucks. I know I’m in the minority but I really don’t care. I also like unleashed bite me.

    • @thebahooplamaster
      @thebahooplamaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      OmegaReconGaming I've only played colors and unleashed. I loved both games and just make the assumption generations is great as well, because of popular belief.

    • @fuzzinator9523
      @fuzzinator9523 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      thebahooplamaster trust me generations is great

    • @blackpants7385
      @blackpants7385 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      OmegaReconGaming Good for you, man. Just chill, no need to be all defensive. If you came here to share your opinion, just stand by it.

  • @supersonicguy556
    @supersonicguy556 6 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    None of this is good, Caddy. That's why it's called "Sonic Forces."

    • @callinater6133
      @callinater6133 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ahmad Hejja I was just thinking about writing that lol

    • @ForrestFox626
      @ForrestFox626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sonic Forces is Hell!

    • @OctoJaxx_SSP
      @OctoJaxx_SSP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What it was amazing and it was original to

    • @byntoyt
      @byntoyt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sonic forces you to play sonic forces

    • @theminecraft2516
      @theminecraft2516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sonic Forces makes Generations and Colors’s stages look long

  • @staticshock4239
    @staticshock4239 6 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    Sonic Team needs to stop making the guy the helped with the level design of Sonic Unleashed (who was the director of Sonic Generations) direct the "Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games" series and bring back everyone who worked on Sonic Generations for the next game because they need to make a good 3D Sonic game since the last good 3D Sonic game was Generations.

    • @awesomeguy2009
      @awesomeguy2009 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Pretty much everyone who worked on Generations, worked on Unleashed. Except, Unleashed had a bigger team and a higher budget. Unleashed has the best modern Sonic levels in the Boost games. They're not too short, not too long and the stages blend speed and platforming way better than the other boost games. Generations included.

    • @PolarPhantom
      @PolarPhantom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Is that what they did with that golden god?
      What a waste.

    • @PolarPhantom
      @PolarPhantom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I'd argue Unleashed was a good first attempt but Generations is the high point of the boost formula thanks to all the alternate paths and not being too long.

    • @americanfootball8194
      @americanfootball8194 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lost world wasn’t half bad

    • @sonicboy678
      @sonicboy678 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not to mention that it's really easy to fail platforming in Unleashed. Once you're in the air, you're pretty much dedicated to it, and jumps love to fail abruptly. Even when on the ground, you have to try not to move too quickly, or you'll end up missing something you shouldn't. It doesn't help that you only have so many lives in Unleashed.

  • @thetoondevil
    @thetoondevil 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I think people misread Caddy's question. He wasn't asking how classic made it to Modern's world, but why he was put into the game.
    Classic Sonic really had no meaning to the plot of the story. Removing him wouldn't change the story at all really. It was just a means to add a character to cater to the classic crowd. Which I ask why when we have Mania? :p

  • @SirCaco
    @SirCaco 6 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Sonic Forces is an unnecessary reminder that Sonic Mania is fucking amazing.

  • @MichaelHill-sg8ks
    @MichaelHill-sg8ks 6 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    Sonic Forces wasn't terrible, nor was it good. It was perhaps the worst thing a game can be: boring. A good game can keep you addicted for hours and hours, even a glitch filled nightmare can provide amusement for a while just by virtue of how awful it is. Sonic Forces is neither of these. Instead it's just a bland, boring game that in a few years only die hard fans will remember. It's not as fast as Generations, the levels aren't as wacky as Mania, the story takes itself too seriously with very little wit, classic Sonic is tacked on because Sonic Team think that'll attract the classic fans, and the controls aren't fun to use. Overall, this game is so underwhelming that the hardest thing to do in it is trying not to fall asleep.
    SONIC FORCES YOU TO SLEEP

    • @manuelalbertoromero9528
      @manuelalbertoromero9528 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ok. Let me correct him,. The story is just meh all around compared to those games' plots.

    • @thegoodoldays911
      @thegoodoldays911 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I agree. The novelty of the memes wears off fast and then you're stuck with mediocrity.

    • @froakie1404
      @froakie1404 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Hill that's why this game sucks.

    • @rayshawnhoward385
      @rayshawnhoward385 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Hill this was a good game I don't know what you talking about Sonic Boom that was a bad Sonic game that is guaranteed but I enjoyed this game not my favorite Sonic game I enjoyed it my favorite Sonic game will always be Sonic Heroes

    • @MichaelHill-sg8ks
      @MichaelHill-sg8ks 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +rayshawn howard It's ok to like bad games. I liked Crash Twinsanity, despite how tragically unfinished that game was. But most people who played Sonic Forces said that it was mediocre at best, myself included. It's that bland mediocrity that just makes it such a painful game to play. Every time I played it all I could think of was, "I really want to play Generations", because the levels were so much more creative and ambitious, the camera changes, multiple pathways, better movement tech and momentum. However, like I said, I enjoy many bad games but I can still see that they're not very good.

  • @MyHeartIsOpen2You
    @MyHeartIsOpen2You 6 ปีที่แล้ว +558

    Sonic forces you to make an oc

    • @qumxlinger1081
      @qumxlinger1081 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This is the truth

    • @NatsumiTakanawa
      @NatsumiTakanawa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Dogzilla That's the better part of the game

    • @cookiesontoast9981
      @cookiesontoast9981 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Dogzilla Yeah... I don't like making my own character in any game, usually I just try to make my character look as much like my favourite official character, DB Xenoverse 1 and 2 I made them look just like Piccolo and 18, and sure enough I'm sure I'll do the same with this game, actually scratch that I enjoyed making my own character in South Park TSOT/TFBW but that's because for some reason they felt like they really fit into the world of South Park even having parents and actual good ties into the story and dialogue, where as most of the time custom characters are just there randomly forced into the action next to the main characters and are just not interesting.

    • @1Thunderfire
      @1Thunderfire 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pretty much why I don't like customs either: very little if any personality at all.

    • @Wolfkaosaun
      @Wolfkaosaun 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good

  • @vanguardplays3418
    @vanguardplays3418 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I think the worst part about this game is it only had 3 level designers 2 of which have never worked on a sonic game before and the other only working on sonic lost world.
    great job sega

  • @arkaidov
    @arkaidov 6 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Sonic Forces you to hold the boost button and go foward

    • @fartchamber12
      @fartchamber12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sonic Forces you to press the circle button to slide

    • @CrasherX2000
      @CrasherX2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hog doctor *TO GET THROUGH TIGHT SPACES, PRESS THE CIRCLE BUTTON TO SLIDE*

  • @PolarPhantom
    @PolarPhantom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Nothing about this is good, Vector.
    That's why it's called "war".
    ~ Knuckles the Echidna, Sonic Forces (2017)

  • @mimakos
    @mimakos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    I am waiting for "Sonic 5 The Quest For Miluk"

    • @BigBossMan538
      @BigBossMan538 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Starring Toilet Duck.

    • @imapotato.6085
      @imapotato.6085 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      & Knuckles.

    • @Katojana
      @Katojana 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      and Puppicarus

    • @pourgoi_6100
      @pourgoi_6100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      MimarasGaming change your horrible minecraft pfp

    • @pourgoi_6100
      @pourgoi_6100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Katojana Aleksielsis thats one obscure one...

  • @johnsquarez6806
    @johnsquarez6806 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "None of this is good Vector;
    That's why it's called war."

  • @azurai3934
    @azurai3934 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I was hoping for Infinite to be a by product of the business with the Time Eater in Generations which is why he could outfight Sonic - he has the memories of EVERY fight with Eggman/apocalyptic monster and thus could replicate past friends/foes such as Chaos and Shadow.

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I remember hearing rumors that Mephiles the Dark actually survives the 06 erasing, despite 06 not being the best game in the world Mephiles was not really a bad villain, I mean he still holds the title of being the only person so far that has killed Sonic

  • @RiderNexus
    @RiderNexus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    The most mediocre Sonic game I've ever played and when you compare it to other games this year and especially Mania, this game feels soulless

    • @someguy3263
      @someguy3263 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      RiderNexus I agree. The whole game felt half-assed.

    • @bobbymccabe2825
      @bobbymccabe2825 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      RiderNexus the soullessness is the most disheartening component for me. If you looked at Sonic Generations or Colors, or even traditionally mediocre titles like Lost World and Unleashed, you can see the care put into them. Those titles ooze personality and detail. In Sonic Forces, it's almost completely absent. Enemies in the Boost sections just stand there, nearly all level assets were recycled... Sonic doesn't even have an idle animation in Forces. Where was the love? Are they just tired of doing this for 27 years?

    • @LeopoldLitchenstein
      @LeopoldLitchenstein 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bob McCabe Actually the idle animation is when he's skydiving and you don't touch anything, like the one in Lost World. It also carries over to the Avatar and Shadow

    • @bobbymccabe2825
      @bobbymccabe2825 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      darkrage6 opinions are subject to interpretation and cannot be absolute, so while I'm glad you enjoyed to the game, my opinion still stands.
      However, I will say that levels that take place in Green Hill, Chemical Plant, the City, and the Death Egg reuse a lot of assets from Sonic Generations (namely from that title's own Green Hill, Chemical Plant, City Escape, and Final Rush, respectively), and that Green Hill's desert components and Mystic Jungle are ripped from Sonic Lost World (namely from Desert Ruins and Silent Forest, respectively).

    • @staticshock4239
      @staticshock4239 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      When you compare it to literally every boost game since Sonic Rush on the DS, it feels very soulless.

  • @DaCableGuy
    @DaCableGuy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    A Caddy video on Sonic? This is a damn good birthday present!

    • @julius3671
      @julius3671 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      happy birthday! :D

    • @fritt
      @fritt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      DaCableGuy merry birthday! :-D

    • @NatsumiTakanawa
      @NatsumiTakanawa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DaCableGuy Happy Birffday!

    • @raiser4068
      @raiser4068 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DaCableGuy *words*

    • @tnasj8078
      @tnasj8078 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Happy birthday

  • @amperscore
    @amperscore 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    “Favorite characters” THERE’S NO BLAZE

    • @vgxxivy6600
      @vgxxivy6600 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Underscore X blaze is dead.

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She's in her own dimension guarding the Sol Emeralds..

    • @chelsea9641
      @chelsea9641 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jargon Madjin but why is silver there??????

    • @cinderd.8913
      @cinderd.8913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chelsea9641 old comment but there relationship is not canon

    • @sillygoose2878
      @sillygoose2878 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where is my favourite character jet the hawk

  • @silentkill450
    @silentkill450 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Aside from the story, the stage design and even the confusing boss choices, my biggest issue with the game is that it feels like a massive step down from previous games that did the same thing. By itself, it's extremely mediocre, as a sequel to games like unleashed and genrations, it's beyond inexcusable. It's baffling how clunky the controls are in comparison.

  • @UltimatePerfection
    @UltimatePerfection 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    The "game plays itself" issue is what I don't like about Modern Sonic. I dunno if there's something inherently wrong with the boost formula or Hedgehog engine, but the end point looks the same. Other than that I really have no issues with the game, aside of Denuvo, which is more because Sega business team is insane not because of the design.
    I really hope that for the next game they'll hire people behind Sonic Utopia. Or they'll return to Adventure gameplay.

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its the boost formula, because I felt that way in every single boost game I played even the vaunted Generations felt like that for most of the game.

    • @CalebCraft10
      @CalebCraft10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      QVear The physics and controls in Utopia are fantastic, but outside of that, the game doesn't have enough to really justify hiring them. The level design is far too open with basically no obstacle give or take a few areas, and the visuals... I won't blame because it's fanmade, but still.

    • @noahdavis7406
      @noahdavis7406 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The adventure formula plays itself more often than you think

    • @64bitmodels66
      @64bitmodels66 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      idk about that
      can be said for heroes and adventure 2 but adventure 1 is seriously playable
      even then heroes and a2 still had some platforming moments

    • @raidoukuzonoha883
      @raidoukuzonoha883 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@noahdavis7406 no it doesn't stfu

  • @smoke7737
    @smoke7737 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Sonic forces you to miss Mania and the Genesis days.

    • @smoke7737
      @smoke7737 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      marcel buchaca
      I respect that. I like some of those games, too. I just miss the times when sonic was laid back, relax, and classy. Not to say that games since then were bad (though some are) I just always prefered the classics. :)

    • @smoke7737
      @smoke7737 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SuperSnuggleFluff i mean i miss the style and feel of mania and the Genesis games.

    • @daddycringe7091
      @daddycringe7091 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      HipsterWizard748 the 3d games were the best you moron

    • @Just-A-Clown111
      @Just-A-Clown111 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      another retro nostalgic person

    • @smoke7737
      @smoke7737 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FinnFin C4D Animations Whats wrong with that? Would you label me as a modern normie if I only liked the modern games? I dont mind the modern games, and some of them even fit into my top 10. But I have always prefered the 2D style. I didnt even grow up with the 2d games. Its just my opinion.

  • @Eelanos
    @Eelanos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm so confused... I saw 3 different reviews and every single one seem to praise one part that the other reviews hate, and hate one part that the other reviews seem to like. This is so confusing...
    They all seem to agree on Classic Sonic being there for no reason, though.

  • @dasonicfan9760
    @dasonicfan9760 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Where was blaze during all of this
    Classic sonic came from another dimension and blaze came from another dimension so like where is she come on Sega MAKE UP YOUR MIND also WHY CAN'T TAILS DO SHIT

    • @lugbzurg8987
      @lugbzurg8987 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They can't market Blaze like Classic Sonic. That's why!
      But yeah, nice to see I'm not the only one who noticed Classic Sonic has basically become the new Blaze.

    • @magma1264
      @magma1264 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "MINE"
      Sega works in a mine now?

    • @setsers1
      @setsers1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gotta go fast lmao

    • @setsers1
      @setsers1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lugbzurg huh?

    • @reddwarf1810
      @reddwarf1810 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      you caint touch dis remember in *cough sonic 06 blaze dies in slivers story so why bring a DEAD character back.

  • @Faapu
    @Faapu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I got the Platinum Trophy on this game and quite frankly it's a big disappointment in almost every department aside from the presentation, but I didn't hate it. I'm absolutely tired of the negativity this game brought to the Sonic fandom and everyone else though, and I'm ready to move forward with the franchise and forget about this subpar game already.

    • @americanfootball8194
      @americanfootball8194 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s not the worst thing ever but it’s not very good either is the definition of mediocre

    • @krishnanayar9461
      @krishnanayar9461 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      THANK YOU.

    • @Kasoha4
      @Kasoha4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not a "bad game", but it's really disappointing.

    • @brandondonato7648
      @brandondonato7648 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got all of the achievements in The Xbox One version. My reaction to this game was “This game sadly exist.”

  • @FloofPuppy
    @FloofPuppy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I'm saying this. I actually enjoyed the game but felt that it needed MORE. Levels were too short, story was literally nothing complexing or worth talking about, characters were limited once again (Because Sega forgets the ones we ACTUALLY like) and it felt like Colors but worst.
    But to be honest, it's not the worst Sonic game, it just... needs more. And I thought the levels in Sonic Colors were short...

  • @ButtonMasherReal
    @ButtonMasherReal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Sonic Forces Classic Sonic into his game in an attempt to link it to a vastly superior Sonic game.
    Sonic Forces a deep and edgy plot into his game to make it seem cooler and more epic, but the sheer nature of Sonic completely ruins the atmosphere.
    Sonic Forces you to play his game.
    Sonic Forces you to like it.

  • @sociallyawkwardtrash
    @sociallyawkwardtrash 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Sonic and Pippa Peg: The Quest For GENUINE PEPPA PIG FLESH!

    • @staceyferran9373
      @staceyferran9373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SociallyAwkwardTrash SEGA SHOULD HIRE YOU YOU ARE A GENIUS

  • @MariusUrucu
    @MariusUrucu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Can't wait for all the comments saying "Sonic was never good" or "Sonic is a dead franchise" just because Forces is mediocre, despite games like, I don't know, Sonic Mania, Sonic Generations, Sonic Colors or even the recent spin off racing games being pretty good if not great... That's going to be fun...

    • @evikotsidimou7373
      @evikotsidimou7373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you forgot of ''sonic forces you to...'' jokes

    • @poodoodrilldick7757
      @poodoodrilldick7757 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sonic mania was made by fans and those other games were long ago made and now were taking shit like boom and lost worlds and now this. Just mediocre garbage

    • @thejedisonic67
      @thejedisonic67 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Remember when Crash Bandicoot got a long stream of mediocre and terrible games? No one goes "Crash was never good" because Mind over Mutant or Boom Bang existed.

    • @callinater6133
      @callinater6133 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheJediSonic I heard crash purple was bad too

  • @nathanchristner9861
    @nathanchristner9861 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m somewhat the same; I love the game, but at the same time, I’m not saying it’s the best Sonic nor am I saying it’s the worst. In fact, the only thing I have a problem with is the fact that you can’t really get a game over. The closest thing to a game over is just failing the SOS missions.

  • @mann-nova9392
    @mann-nova9392 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For someone who doesn't like Sonic games, Caddy is much more forgiving to this than most are.

  • @ShadowtheYouTuber523
    @ShadowtheYouTuber523 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:28 Caddy is baffled by the existence of serious stories in 3D Sonic games

  • @BubblesZap
    @BubblesZap 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "You're favorite characters," my favorite characters are Cream and Blaze...

  • @needlewind9053
    @needlewind9053 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Sonic Forces might be the Sonic 06 of the boost formula.
    And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Forces is as terrible as 06, but it's quite equivalent to wat Sonic 06 was to Sonic Adventure : trying do do what they did right in the past, only to fall flat on their face.
    Seeing how poorly this game seems to do in terms of review and sales , I'm pretty sure Force is going to be the end of the Boost Formula, the same way 06 was to the Adventure one.

    • @PepperMcLime
      @PepperMcLime 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep, that's how it goes. Sega has a nasty habit of learning the wrong lessons from their failures.

    • @PepperMcLime
      @PepperMcLime 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Neonman 1230 It's comparable in terms of its potential impact on the franchise. Obviously it's not anywhere near as bad as 06 was, but with the reception it's had, it could very well kill the boost formula altogether.

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Seeing how poorly this game seems to do in terms of review and sales , I'm pretty sure Force is going to be the end of the Boost Formula, the same way 06 was to the Adventure one"
      Fuck, I hope so, I never once enjoyed this formula.

    • @truearea53
      @truearea53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re crazy and blind. 06 did a decent job and not as all bad. Well let’s not forget that story moved in there was very sick, even the true villain in 06 is way darker and serious for world domination, even though no one is controlling him. For infinite however, he’s not that dark. In fact everything about forces is pathetic and did a very crappy poor job and copied The same thing from colors and lost world

    • @needlewind9053
      @needlewind9053 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@truearea53 I do agree that 06 exceed Forces in some aspects like the story and stages, however that wasn't the point.
      The point is : both were poorly made, rushed games. And once the Sonic Team was confronted with their own failure, they shifted the blamed on "the formula being outdated."
      That's what killed Adventure-like Sonic games, and I expect it will now kill the Boost Formula as well.

  • @5persondude
    @5persondude 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    None of this is good, Caddy. That's why its called "Sonic Forces"

    • @Thunderblock7889
      @Thunderblock7889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sonic Forces: This is why "its not that bad" shouldnt be the standard for Modern Sonic

  • @hihibye2324
    @hihibye2324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The one thing I enjoyed about this is that everything in the game is available to you straight up.
    you want this shirt for you character, cool this is how you unlock it, no loot boxes, no drop rate, just this is how you unlock it.
    I miss that in games.

  • @MforMovesets
    @MforMovesets 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Sonic dies in the first 5 minutes and his billion friends grief" Fanfic alert!

  • @dannyhargreaves6064
    @dannyhargreaves6064 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I feel like Sonic Generations is a better game. Although Forces' beginning and original villain are better, I feel like Generations did a better job in every over department. The avatar was a cool concept, but I wish it was better in execution. Forces is just an average game, and that's odd to say for a SONIC game. I haven't played Mania, though I do own it.

  • @corey12876
    @corey12876 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm shocked to hear you liked the classic music and not the rest I thought the classic music was awful in this game and I loved alot of the other tracks in this game like fist bump and infinites theme but ofcourse we all have our opinions. :)

    • @moonraven6145
      @moonraven6145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I could see why he found some of the themes "whiny" hell Infinite's theme is pretty much all teenage angst (although I still kind of love it for how cheesy it is)

    • @cytorakk6378
      @cytorakk6378 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Corey Neville I liked mainly moderns songs and some of the avatar songs but overall the ost felt disappointing

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, the edgy Linkin park style music was better than the generic faux 16 bit tracks.

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My god, Caddicarus, you always go for the shadiest sponsors.

  • @verqu3450
    @verqu3450 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:41 enemies be like: -oh no there comes the condom!
    Wearing crocs.
    DAMMN YOU CROCS!!

  • @lilpetty2394
    @lilpetty2394 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Game is to easy
    *HARD MODE MY ASS*

    • @dangerwarg9682
      @dangerwarg9682 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Man, after seeing the text of who the modes were meant for, you could just see it coming. But OMG who was this game made for? Game Grumps?

    • @danjac354
      @danjac354 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried both. No difference

    • @grantedger8934
      @grantedger8934 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only difference is that in hard mode you can get more than 100 rings in one level which is completely worthless.

  • @farisweiss2373
    @farisweiss2373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would personally give sonic forces a 7/10 because I find the fun parts very rewarding and I don't find much of this game "unfun". But for anyone who doesent like this game, that's fine, you find it not that fun to play and thats fine because I also have some of the same complaints with this game as well.

  • @adrianleonce455
    @adrianleonce455 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Sonic Forces you to lose faith in SEGA more than ever.

    • @Just-A-Clown111
      @Just-A-Clown111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BUT THEY JUST HAVE TO GIVE YOU A STUPID COPY OF SONIC 1 AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY RIGHT???

    • @thegodofalldragons
      @thegodofalldragons 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      FinnFin C4D Animations Sonic 3, dude. Sonic 1 doesn't even have spin dashing.

    • @thegodofalldragons
      @thegodofalldragons 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jason Voorhees That just means they're better, doesn't mean they're good.

    • @krishnanayar9461
      @krishnanayar9461 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hearing you talk it’s worse than 06 and boom

  • @thestwinner680
    @thestwinner680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Satisfied with your review and you did not disappoint; it is exactly *everything* I imagined - without having played even a single second of the game... now how LAME is that, hmmm SEGA!?
    Next question, when are we getting SONIC MANIA 2?? :]

  • @Mars_over_seer
    @Mars_over_seer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    No Blaze the Cat really? U bring almost every character except Blaze?

    • @lakamokolaka
      @lakamokolaka 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      MysteriousMrM No one gives a shit about herpes the cat and her firey fist of aids

    • @thejilnest
      @thejilnest 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Big is the best character.

    • @normalguy3224
      @normalguy3224 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      MysteriousMrM or cream...big and his stupid frog is also gone...ray the flying squirel...mighty the armadilo...fang the snipe etc.

    • @silverbrumbyfan
      @silverbrumbyfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They even brought Silver back, if you're going to drag 06 characters into this game then WHY NOT BLAZE THE CAT

    • @lakamokolaka
      @lakamokolaka 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      silverbrumbyfan Because sonic rush made it not possible due to it made it cannon she from another dimension which she can rarely leave

  • @spartan3924
    @spartan3924 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could've really used another year to make the story better and polish the gameplay a bit more, the whole freedom fighter resistance thing was one of the big stories in the comics that had way more events and consequences there, but in this game it's almost like a regular enemy, also the main bad guy's powers are all illusion based! there's a couple lines saying his gem just tricks you into thinking the attacks are real so much you actually get hurt by them, also the whole resistance is full of characters way more able than your OC, many who have their own games or prominent parts in other games like Shadow, Tails, Knuckles, Silver, the whole Chaotix team, they should have been able to do loads without Sonic but _nope_ not only does Sonic immediately free himself but he also rescues your OC who is really competent in-game but is a quivering coward in half the cutscenes
    There's alot they could have done to make this better

  • @compassrose1466
    @compassrose1466 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm SO GLAD you're not biased with Mania. Everyone reviewing has just been like "Oh mania did this..." "Oh Mania did that.." I'm glad you actually realized it's decent, even if it's not the most perfect game.

  • @catb0mb
    @catb0mb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Caddy, If you loved cd and the other Genesis games, get mania. It's probably one of my favorite platformers of this year, and if you've played all the Genesis games in full before playing this you'll appreciate it a lot more, seriously. Go for it man

  • @crazygamer4260
    @crazygamer4260 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It feels like they tried to make the comics into a game and completely misunderstood what made the tone of them right

  • @1800Hernandez
    @1800Hernandez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Sonic forces you to go back to super mario odyssey

  • @Hiroku1998
    @Hiroku1998 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sonic Forces me to say that everybody online uses those creepy eyes for everything

  • @a1gamer561
    @a1gamer561 6 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Mania > Forces

    • @JC7146
      @JC7146 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I get it, Mania is better than Forces, but jesus, they're 2 different games, give this game a break, and also I honestly feel bad about this game, getting developed wrong, then getting the huge negative criticism. I really don't like it when this game that's had 2 or 3 level designers gets compared to Odyssey and Mania, jesus.
      Mania > Forces
      Mania = Forces' Potential

    • @thestwinner680
      @thestwinner680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Stating The Obvious award goes to YOU.
      -Most Obvious Statement 2017-

    • @daddycringe7091
      @daddycringe7091 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      JC7146 if sonic forces had the same potential as sonic mania then why isn't it as good? idiot

    • @reveriestyx2133
      @reveriestyx2133 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      daddy cringe
      You don't get it. He meant
      Mania's quality = Forces' Potential
      As in, how good Mania was was how Forces could've been.

    • @daddycringe7091
      @daddycringe7091 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wither Dracos You're a fucking idiot. If Sonic Forces had the same potential, yet didn't live up to that potential then that's obviously the fault of the people making the game for being dumbasses

  • @expandordisband
    @expandordisband 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The reason why Classic Sonic is here is because Forces is apparently connected to Mania.

    • @abyssmo8692
      @abyssmo8692 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't Sega say Mania was an illusion made by the expostion crystal ruby shit thing?

    • @sackydzNG
      @sackydzNG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abyssmo8692 Then what's with Sonic Mania Adventures?!

  • @garbotoxins840
    @garbotoxins840 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    sonic forces you to choke on his smelly chilidog

  • @aeinarrkrigsson
    @aeinarrkrigsson 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    your spoiler warning is the best thing ever

  • @GodOfOrphans
    @GodOfOrphans 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would argue that the SOS missions actually do have a punishing aspect to them in that if you fail them you don't get any second chances and have to wait for another one to trigger witch can be very annoying when trying to complete the missions that require you to do x amount of SOS missions

  • @Kemanh200
    @Kemanh200 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know, it IS my birthday today....so thank you. xD

    • @setsers1
      @setsers1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kemanh200 Haha

  • @ToastyBeruka
    @ToastyBeruka 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    this game was too overhyped in my opinion.

    • @ToastyBeruka
      @ToastyBeruka 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah your right, I still believe that they could have done better and not keep classic because we already have Mania.

    • @thegoodoldays911
      @thegoodoldays911 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a bit. And by that I mean yeah it was.

    • @CrasherX2000
      @CrasherX2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, one guy even said that playing Xenoblade Chronicles 2 made him regret buying Sonic Forces
      Now I may not like Xenoblade 2 that much, but it’s LOADS better than Forces

    • @truearea53
      @truearea53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was overhyped once, until there were tons of errors with the game When I first played it, and then grew very disappointed and board with it after passing the final level

  • @infjgirl3850
    @infjgirl3850 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sorry, Caddicarus, but I completely lost it over your OC Terry the Bird 😂😂😂

  • @RM2011ish
    @RM2011ish 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces is one big story connected to each other by a MacGuffin known as the Phantom Ruby.

  • @NanaKyoto
    @NanaKyoto 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So many Sonic Forces reviews that it forces me to watch them all.

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You would understand why Classic Sonic is here when you play Mania. He still doesn’t contribute to the plot.

    • @NatsumiTakanawa
      @NatsumiTakanawa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Cutehog Team It still doesn't explain how he supposedly came from another dimension or why he was time-traveled in generations but not here? There's no real explanation for things. Also, Mania has nothing to do with Forces.

    • @zigzoinks5493
      @zigzoinks5493 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Miss Tokyo Fun Yes it does...? If you get the good ending as Sonic, he goes through the portal and does the trailer pose.
      Still doesn’t contribute to the plot though.

    • @Silent_Mochi
      @Silent_Mochi 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Miss Tokyo Fun Mania actually does have to do with donic forces as it is what happened before sonic forces

    • @V2Joao
      @V2Joao 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Cutehog Team also i shouldnt need to play past games to understand a standalone game. If a lot of games did that then you couldnt complain about the story which is totally wrong.if they make you play another game to understand some plot on another thats bad story writing

  • @SicSemperBeats
    @SicSemperBeats 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    are you going to ever do more retrospectives thats literally the only reason I subbed tbh

  • @AJTComicsBrand
    @AJTComicsBrand 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm just pissed it that they didn't have Toilet Duck as a DLC playable character.

  • @MacyPooh196
    @MacyPooh196 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll never understand why they "killed" Sonic only to bring him back about 2 missions later. It was just so...pointless.

  • @kokorikopi
    @kokorikopi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah, anywhere from 4-7 seems fair for this game--MAYBE 8 if you're feeling generous.

  • @moonraven6145
    @moonraven6145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's explained in Sonic Mania why classic Sonic was in Forces... sort of, but yeah he did seem shoehorned in for no particular reason.

  • @wowowoowurgud1423
    @wowowoowurgud1423 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks caddy was looking for a review video and who better to go to than the caddicarus show? Before I watch this I'm just gonna say I am maybe going to get this game because I saw that you could create your own character, something I always love.

  • @Diazhi
    @Diazhi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sonic Forces me to be in the minority that enjoys his game

  • @EmeraldUltima713
    @EmeraldUltima713 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The soundtrack of this game is one of the weakest in the series. It's not all bad, but as a whole, it doesn't compare to the music from the past games.

    • @TommyDeonauthsArchives
      @TommyDeonauthsArchives 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tyler Adase especially when you compare the Classic Sonic stages' music to Mania. Sure, I'm glad Caddy something in the Genesis style music than many other people didn't, but it is no contest when you put it up to Mania's amazing soundtrack!

    • @RM2011ish
      @RM2011ish 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a mixed bag. There are still a few really strong tracks, especially near the end.

    • @cytorakk6378
      @cytorakk6378 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ThatOneGuitarGuy 98 dark souls and great epic choirs and orchestras with great composers, sonic forces has bad cheesy songs , totally the same

    • @xcalibur64
      @xcalibur64 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +ThatOneGuitarGuy 98 I don’t see what’s so bad about cheesy music. Sonic games in the past had cheesy music: Sonic Heroes vocal tracks, SA2 Knuckles raps, some parts of His World, Endless Possibilities, etc, etc. Plus, those were all good songs, and I liked Fist Bump, and Infinite’s theme.

    • @NeoSaturos123
      @NeoSaturos123 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      But I love cheesy songs, they're what makes the soundtracks of Sonic games good. I don't think this has one of the weakest soundtracks though, that tile goes to Sonic Boom and Sonic Chronicles.

  • @ChristopherMcLarenExperience
    @ChristopherMcLarenExperience 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro the title to this video is one of the best in history for real.

  • @athing18
    @athing18 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the sponsor Caddy! Really helps 👍❤️

  • @MysticMimikyu355
    @MysticMimikyu355 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sonic Forces (in my opinion) was a good game,with a solid story and the same likeable characters as always,with unfortunately meh controls and three or four fucking level designers.

  • @samtraxy3250
    @samtraxy3250 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Sonic Forces me to rehab

  • @ThtsM-gh2lx
    @ThtsM-gh2lx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew I wasn't going insane when I keep dying, sonic fell threw those platforms

  • @BaltaBueno
    @BaltaBueno 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not to mention that this game also hurts Mania because it wanted to chain its story with it. Mania would've been so much better if it didn't require you to play an entirely different game just to finish the story.

  • @snipperjoey1151
    @snipperjoey1151 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should've made your OC, Toilet Duck.

  • @rainyboi6383
    @rainyboi6383 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sonic Forces you to play Sonic Mania

  • @Steamuch
    @Steamuch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    +Caddicarus, you're alroight lad.
    Okay,
    noice.

  • @SonicKick
    @SonicKick 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like seeing differing opinions regarding this game. Its pretty interesting

  • @spiketheguy7091
    @spiketheguy7091 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't worry Caddy. Sonic Mania will be a much better experience when you get to it.

  • @roythelongestboy3609
    @roythelongestboy3609 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sonic Forces you to buy Mania instead

  • @IgikoPop
    @IgikoPop 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Caddy! I covered this on BitPOP and I totally agree with you on everything. The game was seriously meh but I think the music was the redeeming factor for sure. The instrumentals were great and the artists who sang also have good credits but all in all it was very blah :p

  • @DovahPoot
    @DovahPoot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see Wisps
    I am already satisfied because i love those little aliens.

  • @fartchamber12
    @fartchamber12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sonic forces you to have a brain haemorrhage

  • @N-GinAndTonicTM
    @N-GinAndTonicTM 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing is, Sonic has already run his course *Shut up* and they're just beating a dead... Hedgehog at this point.

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The reason Sega's even trying new things, if you ask me I'd love to see Fleetway thrown into the games to give Sonic a Jekyll & Hyde dynamic

  • @thetattooedyoshi
    @thetattooedyoshi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are we going to get a special Caddicarus episode on that new Bubsy game? Or am I getting my hopes up?

  • @aplsed
    @aplsed 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kind of wish that this was a Caddicarus episode. Well, we all know that it would get the slaugh-vage cuz, at this point, everybody agrees with the mixed reviews including me

  • @Giran_0
    @Giran_0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't play as Blaze or Vector, 0/10

  • @imaginaryfanboy
    @imaginaryfanboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Forces you to play Sonic Mania and enjoy an actually good Sonic game. GO PLAY IT RIGHT NOW

  • @kuribokirby6222
    @kuribokirby6222 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow it’s nice to have a review that doesn’t complain about Green Hill Zone being recycled as well as liking Classic Sonics music over the vocal tracks, as most people just say how classic Sonics music sounds like “Genesis Farts”. Overall I think it was a pretty solid review but I have one question.. Why no slaughter/salvage?

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonic Forces Me To Go Through A Story That Takes Itself Too Seriously

  • @Diablon76
    @Diablon76 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seriously just do yourself a favor and play Mania, you won't regret it.

  • @ademolaadekiya5694
    @ademolaadekiya5694 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    once I saw the ocs I lost interest immediately.

    • @ronindebeatrice
      @ronindebeatrice 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ademola Adekiya It feels like an in-joke, or complete pandering to basement dwelling fanfic writing chronic masturbators.

    • @Sukaiba69
      @Sukaiba69 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gud, I don't think you are particularly interesting to Sonic Team anyways.

    • @setsers1
      @setsers1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ademola Adekiya boohoo😡😂

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would have preferred it if the OCs got one of three playstyles similar to what Heroes did (Speed, Power, Fly) instead of the gadget gimmick

  • @ThisSonicGamer
    @ThisSonicGamer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hard Mode needed to be called Normal honestly. It even describes itself as "ideal for those who have played a Sonic game", and the current Normal should have been called Easy

  • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
    @TheSmart-CasualGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoyed this game for one reason.
    This game has possibly the worst dialogue I've ever heard for a professionally made title, and it is fun to laugh at.

  • @Vlaffffy
    @Vlaffffy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sonic Forces you to buy a better game.

  • @Ostnizdasht206
    @Ostnizdasht206 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3D Sonic is dead. Just stick to 2D Sonic games and release them for 30 bucks.

  • @RomanImperialXII
    @RomanImperialXII 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't worry Caddy, most Sonic fans are calling this game "mediocre" at best.
    As of now, Sonic Mania is were its at.

  • @Capydapy
    @Capydapy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this review !!! He's not too keen on Sonic games, but this review just felt really honest and fair. The game has clunky controls and feels rushed in development for the Christmas Seasons Sales and it lets it down. I like Forces, but it's a very average game and levels are just too short. The game is fun for big Sonic fans and experimenting with the OC Creator, buut there's just too many flaws breaking it down. Compared to Mario Odyssey and Mania it's just embarrassing. Caddy was completely honest with this review * stereotype Brit accent * jolly fucking fantastic.

  • @shygaifu3592
    @shygaifu3592 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wanna join my free gift card giveaway?
    -Caddicarus, 2017