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Why don’t you answer questions on the DC inverter you recommended? Numerous people have asked if the DC inverter you recommended will work on their cigarette lighter in their car with a Bluetti. Shame on you!
Hey Professor Hobo. There is a thing I've been trying to figure out for awhile and don't have the test tools, perhaps you could help. I have an early ecoflow and am happy with it. Heres the question, if I have a load on the inverter AND all the solar input panels recommended on a sunny day in full sun, whats going on in there as far as power distribution? Watts out will likely exceed watts in but are the panels taking some of the load or is it all battery? Is there anyway to find out? Does this question even make sense? My wife and I have enjoyed your reviews for awhile now. We bought an overland trailer a couple years ago and your gear reviews we find entertaining as well as informative.
Watching this on Tuesday, October 15th,2024 . I'm glad I found your channel. Because I live in western Alberta, -40°C~F° is commonplace . I've watched your channel now 4 about 2 weeks. My first introduction to solar generators was from a channel called "Arkopia ",from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Dean the channel owner built a tiny home and installed solar panels to supply the Bluetti system. This is how 1 thing leads to another. Since then I've watched your mathematical videos and learned that this is a big swimming pool of knowledge. Now because I understand gas powered generators a lot ,I decided to purchase 2 Honda 2200i generators. 1 is the main unit while the other is the companion which can be connected together to produce the power requirements in a grid down situation. They were easier to obtain cost wise being $1500.00 each . And they are lighter on the old bones and the strategy is 2 equals 1 ,and 1 equals none . Meaning if 1 fails to start I have the other to rely upon as redundancy. Yes they are still tied to the supply chain but they give me the peace of mind should anything go wrong in the world weather wise . But now I'm looking into the solar system aspects but can't bring myself to be paying for the top of the line Solark CME/EMP protection inverter systems. Coming in at $9500.00CDN just 4 the 8500 Watt unit & no batteries or panels . I'm liking the Bluetti batteries that can be charged from 120V without the inverter . Now that's the basic place to start for a battery that is heated in case I need 2 travel with it in the dead of winter. The inverter portion of the system can be acquired later . So now I've got 2 keep watching your videos & figure out my needs . Just don't know which company I should go with . Bluetti or Eco Flow . Thank you for your excellent videos and your expertise.
This is the most honest. Everyone else who tested this swore it could run an entire house, jumbo jet and light up all Singapore after a mere 15 minute power up from a 10w solar panel. And it’d run fine for 5 years. This is the only review out of 10 where people learn. No it’ll shut down. You wanna run your central ac during peak hours. Nope. So this was great.
i watched a bunch of reviews on this unit, and didn't see anyone exaggerate to the level you described. maybe there is one niche reviewer that said this, but one person a representation does not make. Especially when other reviewed this with the transfer switch and smart panel, it was pretty clear you could put only so much on it. and you're wrong about not being able to run central AC (though it will not run for too long). depending on the size and plus with a soft starter (if necessary), it can run. But this system could scale to accommodate such situation, especially if using the smart panel and 2 (or even 3) of the delta pro ultras plus more batteries and solar to make it truly run all day, though if you're scaling up to that size I am start to wonder if your're better off with something like a true whole-home backup system like the anker solix x1 or Tesla powerwall, or heck a standy generator.
Great video as usual! You answered one of the huge questions I have on the Delta Pro Ultra versus the Delta Pro. By showing the sine wave when you switched from pass through to inverting on the 20 millisecond UPS switchover the sine wave has no phase shift. That has been a big problem for many of us using the Delta Pro when running refrigerators and air conditioners. When the switchover happens, if the sine wave does not remain in Phase you can get rotor lock in your compressor which is super hard on the start relay and compressor. It is fantastic to see EcoFlow has solved this issue! With the 0ms outlets and this in phase 20ms outlets this unit TRULY is a game changer! I have one on the way from Costco with 3 batteries so we'll see.
One of the best reviews of the 50 plus other TH-camrs that received an EcoFlow promo beta units, kudos to you. Please do a in-depth follow-up on a smart panel 2 and all of the geeky capabilities for on grid and off-grid that it can do
As a few others have said, I'm SO sorry about your tablet, Prof. HOBO. That said, another awesome video. I watch a few channels in this genre, but none do I anticipate so highly as yours. Even when the product doesn't interest me itself. This is a great beast, but I don't see myself shelling out for higher than an AC200L anytime soon. Still, it's fascinating to watch the progression of sophistication of these devices. Thank you for keeping us info-tained for 30-90 minutes each upload. 😊
Isn’t it ironic that the tesla cybertruck is probably now the biggest ecoflow competitor? The ecoflow can scale to 90kW of battery storage while the cybertruck stores 123kW. The ecoflow inverter can scale to 21kW while the cybertruck “only” can output 11.5kW. Both have remote everything, heat and cool themselves, and are designed for longevity. The ecoflow would cost approximately $50,000 in this configuration while the cybertruck is $80,000. One looks pretty up against a wall and the other is completely mobile - you can drive it wherever you need that amount of storage and power. Crazy that this comparison might actually be something someone thinks about on the top end of battery storage.
You conveniently left out the $5-10k+ additional cost getting vehicle to home system built. 123kW massive battery that lasts 250 miles. Almost 90k after taxes, will depreciate by 50% in 2 years like most Teslas/EVs so maybe at that point Cybertruck may be worth considering.
@@MaxCaud Actually the cybertruck doesn’t need anything more than the standard wall connector to get 11.5kWh out of it. Just like with ecoflow, the home smart panel stuff is optional and not required for straightforward use.
This is the only one of these units that I have seen anywhere, that has true UPS, which stands for Uninterruptible Power Supply, Emphasis on, "Uninterruptible" All of the other's are not Uninterruptabl They just transfer very fast, some more quickly than others, but this is completely glitch free, even the most critical loads will be completely safe on this unit, because the load actually never sees the line which means that it is protected from any high voltage spikes, way cool!!!!😊
I have this unit and wired into their smart panel 2. It works but it took a lot of fixes in the firmware. My house pulls about 1.5kW on a constant basis. I have one battery. It includes my 5 ton central AC unit and all the rest of the circuits in my home. I've tested it many times and it runs about 5-6 hours if I do nothing. If I plug in the panels (about 1800W total) and get judicious on what is running I can stretch that to maybe 9 hours. I'm not using the AC portion since it's wired right into the panel. I also got the hub that lets me plug in both older Delta Pros I had. That gives me about another 5kW. Gives me somewhere around 12-13 hours. That didn't work until the latest firmware updates though. I've lost power on two occasions and it worked fine in both cases. Didn't even notice we had lost grid power until I got the notice. I can't speak to the RV or electric car charging as I don't have either of those.
A lot of this is "over my head", BUT as a team Ecoflow person ... super info! I look forward to the Spring redo with release units :) Thanks Professor Hobo!! And cheers to Odi from Oscar the super mouser in NW Montana.
Excellent, real world load testing, thank you. I'm leaning against buying the Ultra, mainly because additional batteries are $2799 right now. I've shared your video with a friend who lives in a condo. I see this as helpful for him. I love the design, it's brilliant, especially compared to the Delta Pro two battery configuration. This footprint is much smaller. Ecoflow did a great job.
Ecoflow reminds me of the early 80s with the BoomBox Battle. I mean JVC was KING back in the day with their JVC RC 550 gigantic single speaker with the smaller speakers surrounding it, and SHARP with their massive BoomBox with the double cassette player with slide equalizers, and tons of buttons to get the sound right. Ecoflow is King of the Wattages...just missing the fold up cardboard with vinyl flooring on it, and some Badass Break Dancing.
Holy cow! for a full setup with 3 inverters and 15 battery modules, that's 796lbs or 361kg! 800lbs is a lot of weight to place in one spot on your floor. However, it is totally worth it for true peace of mind!
If you were going to get a system that large, it would be best in a garage or on a concrete pad. They do give off heat so that's another install consideration.
@@HOBOTECHwhat is your favorite whole home system that isn't going to take that many batteries and inverters? I live in Las Vegas so it gets hot I need the ability to use some kind of small air conditioner if I need to contain myself in one room. What air conditioner would you use and what is the best all-around solar generator
I am a beta tester for the DPU, I can confirm that with the level 2 ev charging, you can charge at 7.2kw using the j1772 adapter and the correct charger. I can use a home level 2 charger hooked up to a dryer outlet and charge it within an hour.
Dr Hobo - Thank you for the great look at OBPP (one big powerful prototype), way better than looking at YAP. Appreciate your hard work to keep us in the know on what’s coming available, literally AS IT IS. Interesting that EF went the extra mile to have heating in the battery units. Great for quick install mobile power in a Class A/B/C, esp in a partly/not heated section of RV basement; the battery units will protect against cold charging damage. Sorry about the tablet - maybe EcoFlow will help out. Thanks again!!
The most detailed TH-camr. I was thinking ecoflow will stick to portability like make somethings x10 the ecoflow delta pro that someone can carry like a crane the same way we carry a diesel generator
Nice to see that it offers real sine wave output (not simulated). When you do your follow-up review, maybe address how you would do surge suppression and preventing a lightning strike from turning the investment into landfill material. Hmm... 5-year financing and 3-year warranty.
@@HOBOTECH Ahh... I was interested in a different use-case - using the Smart Home Panel in conjunction with the Delta Pro Ultra as an on-grid power backup. The Smart Home Panel has just 3 years according to EcoFlow's website.
Been waiting for you HOBOTECH, and Gavins Garage to present this powerful Ecoflow DPU 7.2K Wh...Bravo Zulu Sir. Hope to see Gavin do one soon in the near future, because the 2 of you content creators always have a fine presentation on the units you present, thats for sure.
Would love to see video on smart home panel 2, specifically if it needs a cloud connection just to function / how much data it’s transmitting about your power consumption, etc.
Great review. I suspect the 6400-watt limit is due to the battery limitation. It's pulling over 1C from the battery and so the battery is telling the inverter to shut down. I suspect you're correct with your theory of more battery will fix this. This is a great unit at the price till you need to add more battery power. The batteries are quite high. I built my own 240v/48v/15.2kwh HBS.
It's a prototype test model. Jasonoid, another solar channel reviewed this today as well. He said he contacted Ecoflow about it and that was the response he got.
If feels like there is literally 100s of reviews on this product online over the last 24 hours. I have seen 12+ of them personally. Yours is, as usual, one of the most complete and informative. Thank you for all you hard work over the years.
Does the 240v output work when charging with 240v. I think I heard you say no but my use case would be a 50amp RV and plug into campground electrical at 50a with adaptor but run RV off 240v 30amp DPU outlet. Will that work>
It would be nice to see on the average run time chart, a smaller mini-split ac/heat pump(9k btu) being this seems to be the future of HVAC. Great video, as usual!
Thank you for such a thorough video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Debating between this or 2 Delta Pros. I can get this for $5k or 2 Delta Pros for about the same cost. Which would you go with?
I think you forgot to mention that charging the DPU from 240 v 30 amp outlet gives 7200 watts into the DPU. The first time i charged my DPU at 7200 watts I backed up a ways when the display was 7200 watts, a TOU champion.
EcoFlow DPU is definitely feature rich. I have 8 EcoFlow products when I count the extra batteries. The only feature missing is the direct DC charging of batteries from their EcoFlow smart generator. With all the built in charging capabilities I guess its not needed. Everyone I know with 240VAC needs are to provide power to their well water pumps. I have had no issues monitoring my EcoFlow units with their App. The first solar/powerstation I purchased was a Goal Zero Lithium 1400 For $1800.00 in June 2019. Do the math. It is still functional but its features are no where near the capabilities of todays products.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. Would love to this review in detail when it comes out if you can get one: Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger. Would like to see how truly efficient it is at various loads. Would also like to see how low the adjustable output is, if it can go below 1 amp and the granularity tested. This thing could be a real game-changer (even at lower outputs) if it works as the doc/manuals suggest.
Great review. I have a tri-fuel generator that cost less than $1,000 that can run my 240v well pump, heating system and most lights. ** BUT ** if i'm out of town and there's a blizzard or noreaster causing a power outage- I'd much prefer this sitting in my garage plugged into the transfer switch so my wife or kids just has to turn it on. The alternative is she'd have to pull a heavy generator outside and attach to a propane tank or fill with gasoline. Also - after going through a week long outage 2 years in a row due to storms- the amount of gas & propane i now keep on hand is problematic. This is what I've been waiting for.
Spend twice as much and put in a 26KW Generac. Your wife will thank you and it will run for 4 to 5 days if warranted. Save the $5K you would have spent on this and sell the other tri fuel jenny for $500 and you will have a 10-15 year solution.
@@busterhyman6633 maybe if I’m on ng, but I’m on propane. Wouldn’t be enough to run it for two days. I’ve already had outages that lasted more than a week. With a generac there’d be no propane to cook with so after only 2 days the problem is now much worse.
The nice thing is this should put a spark under Bluetti and others to come out with competing products to hopefully drive costs down. I already have a bluetti AC200Max - which can run most items in my house except the well pump. I would gladly replace that with something like this that can do split phase and meet all my needs. I know many of us who are interested in these generators are interested in well pump capability.
Great Review! I was thinking about getting one of these as a home backup UPS, but my understanding from your review and from EcoFlow support as well, is there is no 240 Volt Pass through in UPS mode, when the 240 Volt Generator Input is used (All AC outlets shut off). This means that the absolute maximum pass through power available as a UPS (no solar input) using only the 120V AC charge cord, assuming 100% efficiency and nothing being used for charging the battery, would be 1800 Watts (120 Volts x 15 Amps). It would seem the 240 Volt Split phase output is available solely from the Delta Pro Ultra Inverter. With only the 120 Volt AC charging input supplying power, that would limit the 240 Volt split phase output to a max 7.5 amps, again assuming 100 efficiency and nothing being used for charging the battery. I'm wondering if you've run a test to see what happens when the DPU's battery is depleted and only the AC Charge cord is supplying power ....... does it continue to pass through on the UPS standby outlets? Is there still 240 output or does the unit shut down. It's unfortunate that a 240 Volt AC 30 amp input cannot be passed through as a UPS. Unfortunately this makes the unit a no sale for me. Cheers!
Thanks for the info HoboTech! Unfortunately I don't want or need the Smart Panel for UPS as I have a transfer panel already installed for my critical loads. Otherwise, the DPU seems the perfect machine.
Combo is $5799 with 1 battery and additional batteries are $2999. It is a hefty price tag. EG4 8kw inverter is $1500 EG4 5kw server rack is $1500 So for the combo price ($5799) you could get a EG4 15kwh system. Same 15kwh batteries from EcoFlow would cost $9000. I guess the 240v output is that makes it interesting.
Hmm, it seems nice, but I pre ordered the 13kw power wall for 8,400 each with 10 years of warranty. Buy more save more per power wall. 5600 with incentives. Installation is extra. But, it offers more. I think I saw the prices on the Ecoflow for 6000 last year. 1000 off for early birds. 2800 for additional battery mods.
The only thing that bugs me is no option to hook up the Smart Generator and Wave to it. I realize this is aimed at the whole house backup market which I think is awesome.
They advertise this as a home backup battery but I noticed the 240 V outlet is 30 amps. Your oven draws more than that And your dryer draws close to that So you probably couldn't run anything else if you were running your dryer. Would you agree with this statement.
I have a eco flow river pro and would like a video on how to safely “over panel” one so that you can (more commonly) get the max solar charge, without damaging the unit.
Always great videos....any chance you could make a video on your "fake solar simulator setup"? And could that setup be powered by a 36v battery? Thanks
Hi Professor Hobo, I have a question if I have 7200W solar panel installed, which is over 4000 w max high voltage PV input, even combine with the 1600 w max low voltage PV input, seems it is not possible to connect it all to the DPU? Should I need 2 DPU runs parallel? Hope can get your input. Thanks!🥰
Hi HoboTech Many thanks for all your help with the solar videos. What kind of Solar panels and how many panels would be needed to charge this to 100% everyday?? Many thanks HoboTech for all your help and professionalism. Thank you again God Bless
@@HOBOTECHso how many panels do you need to keep it going so it stays charged putting the max load on it ? I would love to have a refrigerator and a small air conditioning unit attached to it as well as other small devices
How does the Bypass Mode (20ms) work on the 240v? If you’re charging via 120v, how does it pass through grid power at 240v? In bypass mode, are you limited to 1800w? For example if your in this mode, and a big load like a 3 ton AC kicks on, will the relay switch even though grid was never lost?
I don't see the EV and home 240v charging cables on your list? Will the cables fit the new Delta Pro 3? I would like to buy the home 240v charging cable. I don't see them on the Ecoflow website or Amazon.
So far 5 channels that I subscribe to have uploaded reviews of this thing today, and nearly 20 other channels across the platform as of just noon. That's it, I'm creating a TH-cam channel so that I can get thousands of dollars worth of free crap too! 😂
If it was that easy everyone would be doing. Most don't understand the time and cost involved in building a channel for years before these types of offers come in.
@@TKCL Lol, we'll see. I don't think they're as discerning as you think. So far the count is up to nearly 30 promotional videos on this platform alone in the past 24hrs. I haven't even checked other social media platforms yet.
@@NikeHM69 that's because yesterday was the official launch and release date at CES, I was there. 30 channels out of millions isn't many. It's part of their promotional campaign to have these released at the same time.
@@TKCL Yes I've known how all of that works for quite some time. They send out a product under the condition that content creators post a video about it on a certain day, usually a launch day. Some people are upfront about it being a commercial, some not so much. Regardless of whether the contract requires the video to be positive or not, it's well understood that a negative review will mean that you probably won't be included in any future promotions. That's my issue with this type of stuff.
We're required by law to disclose a paid promotion to TH-cam and you'll see this appear at the beginning of the video. Of course everyone gets one for free to review. How would a channel survive if they had to pay $4799 to buy a product? Anyway, I never sign contracts telling me what to say, how to say it, or stating the review must be positive. I don't ever offer video previews to the brand either to keep us all honest. So take that however you like.
Loving your extensive reviews, Professor! If you have some time, could you look into the VDL HS2400? I believe it’s their newest flagship power station.
@@HOBOTECH I didn't say you said that. I was saying it was a limitation of the system, and you mention it being a potential limitation around 19 minutes in. I could have worded it a bit differently to differentiate who said what.
Professor Hobo, I love all of your reviews and am a subscriber now, but I was wondering why you don't ever actually demonstrate using these PowerStations with solar panels. In buying a PowerStation, one of the most important things (for me) is how well it takes charge from solar panels. I get that you use a simulator to test the solar input, but I want to test it with actual solar panels, EF brand and possibly others, to gauge how long it really would take under different conditions, and how well the panels work as well. Because when you REALLY need a backup battery system, is when you have no electric power AND you have no access to gas or propane, so a gas generator is useless. Now you are only relying on the Sun. How far can you get along with the ECOFLOW Ultra and some panels? That's wha tI am most interested in knowing. Just a suggestion for a future video. Perhaps others would want to see that as well. Thanks!
Because even though I live in AZ, we don't always have sun. I also work at night. The simulator test is exactly the same as using a solar panel. In fact, better because you don't have to deal with the variances in build or brand. I'd literally have to test with dozens of brands to make everyone happy and that's not happening. I'm testing the power station, not the solar panels.
Thanks for a great video agin. 2 questions Can you use 240v and charge at the same time with out the power wall ? no 2 The generator plug can you use the dpu with only one battery or do you need 2 batteries to charge with the generator plug. Thanks
How much are just the 6kw batteries? I’m looking for something that would both integrate as a home backup but still be portable enough to power our pop up trailer when camping, so this is pretty overkill. Maybe a tiny house power source in the future. 👍
I have a 7000W solar array that is grid tied giving me solar energy when the sun shines and grid power at night. Could I use this for night power and charge from the grid/solar during the day?
@Hobotech: At around 6:10 you mention it can be charged at 240v from a gas/diesel generator. Does the generator need to be an inverter generator or can it be a standard (non-sine) generator?
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Why don’t you answer questions on the DC inverter you recommended? Numerous people have asked if the DC inverter you recommended will work on their cigarette lighter in their car with a Bluetti. Shame on you!
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Hey Professor Hobo. There is a thing I've been trying to figure out for awhile and don't have the test tools, perhaps you could help. I have an early ecoflow and am happy with it. Heres the question, if I have a load on the inverter AND all the solar input panels recommended on a sunny day in full sun, whats going on in there as far as power distribution? Watts out will likely exceed watts in but are the panels taking some of the load or is it all battery? Is there anyway to find out? Does this question even make sense? My wife and I have enjoyed your reviews for awhile now. We bought an overland trailer a couple years ago and your gear reviews we find entertaining as well as informative.
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Watching this on Tuesday, October 15th,2024 .
I'm glad I found your channel.
Because I live in western Alberta, -40°C~F° is commonplace .
I've watched your channel now 4 about 2 weeks.
My first introduction to solar generators was from a channel called "Arkopia ",from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.
Dean the channel owner built a tiny home and installed solar panels to supply the Bluetti system.
This is how 1 thing leads to another.
Since then I've watched your mathematical videos and learned that this is a big swimming pool of knowledge.
Now because I understand gas powered generators a lot ,I decided to purchase 2 Honda 2200i generators.
1 is the main unit while the other is the companion which can be connected together to produce the power requirements in a grid down situation.
They were easier to obtain cost wise being $1500.00 each .
And they are lighter on the old bones and the strategy is 2 equals 1 ,and 1 equals none . Meaning if 1 fails to start I have the other to rely upon as redundancy.
Yes they are still tied to the supply chain but they give me the peace of mind should anything go wrong in the world weather wise .
But now I'm looking into the solar system aspects but can't bring myself to be paying for the top of the line Solark CME/EMP protection inverter systems.
Coming in at $9500.00CDN just 4 the 8500 Watt unit & no batteries or panels .
I'm liking the Bluetti batteries that can be charged from 120V without the inverter .
Now that's the basic place to start for a battery that is heated in case I need 2 travel with it in the dead of winter.
The inverter portion of the system can be acquired later .
So now I've got 2 keep watching your videos & figure out my needs .
Just don't know which company I should go with .
Bluetti or Eco Flow .
Thank you for your excellent videos and your expertise.
You have to just really like this man. He is so thorough, and cool AF.
This is the most honest. Everyone else who tested this swore it could run an entire house, jumbo jet and light up all Singapore after a mere 15 minute power up from a 10w solar panel. And it’d run fine for 5 years.
This is the only review out of 10 where people learn. No it’ll shut down. You wanna run your central ac during peak hours. Nope.
So this was great.
😂
i watched a bunch of reviews on this unit, and didn't see anyone exaggerate to the level you described. maybe there is one niche reviewer that said this, but one person a representation does not make. Especially when other reviewed this with the transfer switch and smart panel, it was pretty clear you could put only so much on it.
and you're wrong about not being able to run central AC (though it will not run for too long). depending on the size and plus with a soft starter (if necessary), it can run. But this system could scale to accommodate such situation, especially if using the smart panel and 2 (or even 3) of the delta pro ultras plus more batteries and solar to make it truly run all day, though if you're scaling up to that size I am start to wonder if your're better off with something like a true whole-home backup system like the anker solix x1 or Tesla powerwall, or heck a standy generator.
I watched the whole thing. This goes to show Mr Hobo goes straight to business
Great review, Professor. It’s out of my price range (I’m stuck at the 2400w level). It’s still amazing how far this tech has come in 4 years!
maybe in another 4 years it will be afordable to us mortals :)
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We can get a 50% discount and Finally buy this irrespective of the Tech ones coming 😅
@@ebubennadi8247 doesnt work like that with phones and pcs tho does it? they just stop making old ones and have new ones same price :)
Great video as usual! You answered one of the huge questions I have on the Delta Pro Ultra versus the Delta Pro. By showing the sine wave when you switched from pass through to inverting on the 20 millisecond UPS switchover the sine wave has no phase shift. That has been a big problem for many of us using the Delta Pro when running refrigerators and air conditioners. When the switchover happens, if the sine wave does not remain in Phase you can get rotor lock in your compressor which is super hard on the start relay and compressor. It is fantastic to see EcoFlow has solved this issue! With the 0ms outlets and this in phase 20ms outlets this unit TRULY is a game changer! I have one on the way from Costco with 3 batteries so we'll see.
One of the best reviews of the 50 plus other TH-camrs that received an EcoFlow promo beta units, kudos to you. Please do a in-depth follow-up on a smart panel 2 and all of the geeky capabilities for on grid and off-grid that it can do
Curious who's is best? I will do a fup on the panel.
Just ordered one with your promocode. Hopefully they give you a little coin from my order :)
As a few others have said, I'm SO sorry about your tablet, Prof. HOBO. That said, another awesome video. I watch a few channels in this genre, but none do I anticipate so highly as yours. Even when the product doesn't interest me itself. This is a great beast, but I don't see myself shelling out for higher than an AC200L anytime soon. Still, it's fascinating to watch the progression of sophistication of these devices. Thank you for keeping us info-tained for 30-90 minutes each upload. 😊
Thanks!
Isn’t it ironic that the tesla cybertruck is probably now the biggest ecoflow competitor? The ecoflow can scale to 90kW of battery storage while the cybertruck stores 123kW. The ecoflow inverter can scale to 21kW while the cybertruck “only” can output 11.5kW. Both have remote everything, heat and cool themselves, and are designed for longevity. The ecoflow would cost approximately $50,000 in this configuration while the cybertruck is $80,000. One looks pretty up against a wall and the other is completely mobile - you can drive it wherever you need that amount of storage and power. Crazy that this comparison might actually be something someone thinks about on the top end of battery storage.
I mean they both have wheels 😂
I'll take the cybertruck. So useful. Already ordered, and it will power my camper JUST fine. Add all the solar on top and we're golden
You conveniently left out the $5-10k+ additional cost getting vehicle to home system built. 123kW massive battery that lasts 250 miles. Almost 90k after taxes, will depreciate by 50% in 2 years like most Teslas/EVs so maybe at that point Cybertruck may be worth considering.
@@MaxCaud Actually the cybertruck doesn’t need anything more than the standard wall connector to get 11.5kWh out of it. Just like with ecoflow, the home smart panel stuff is optional and not required for straightforward use.
The Japanese already using the concept of cars being mobile batteries that are grid compatible, seems like a good idea.
This is the only one of these units that I have seen anywhere, that has true UPS, which stands for Uninterruptible Power Supply, Emphasis on, "Uninterruptible"
All of the other's are not Uninterruptabl
They just transfer very fast, some more quickly than others, but this is completely glitch free, even the most critical loads will be completely safe on this unit, because the load actually never sees the line which means that it is protected from any high voltage spikes, way cool!!!!😊
My order shipped out yesterday for this product. Looking forward to it.
How is it going?
Well that’s a pretty amazing unit. It’s what most people want in solar generator.
?????? "MOST"
I have this unit and wired into their smart panel 2. It works but it took a lot of fixes in the firmware. My house pulls about 1.5kW on a constant basis. I have one battery. It includes my 5 ton central AC unit and all the rest of the circuits in my home. I've tested it many times and it runs about 5-6 hours if I do nothing. If I plug in the panels (about 1800W total) and get judicious on what is running I can stretch that to maybe 9 hours. I'm not using the AC portion since it's wired right into the panel. I also got the hub that lets me plug in both older Delta Pros I had. That gives me about another 5kW. Gives me somewhere around 12-13 hours. That didn't work until the latest firmware updates though.
I've lost power on two occasions and it worked fine in both cases. Didn't even notice we had lost grid power until I got the notice. I can't speak to the RV or electric car charging as I don't have either of those.
I have a separate review with the home panel and mention it needs updated out of the box.
@@HOBOTECH Thanks! Just watched it. Great work!
You’re saying you have the ultra and one battery and your 5 ton central ac unit runs for 5-6 hours on its own without solar?
A lot of this is "over my head", BUT as a team Ecoflow person ... super info! I look forward to the Spring redo with release units :) Thanks Professor Hobo!! And cheers to Odi from Oscar the super mouser in NW Montana.
Excellent, real world load testing, thank you. I'm leaning against buying the Ultra, mainly because additional batteries are $2799 right now. I've shared your video with a friend who lives in a condo. I see this as helpful for him. I love the design, it's brilliant, especially compared to the Delta Pro two battery configuration. This footprint is much smaller. Ecoflow did a great job.
Ecoflow reminds me of the early 80s with the BoomBox Battle. I mean JVC was KING back in the day with their JVC RC 550 gigantic single speaker with the smaller speakers surrounding it, and SHARP with their massive BoomBox with the double cassette player with slide equalizers, and tons of buttons to get the sound right. Ecoflow is King of the Wattages...just missing the fold up cardboard with vinyl flooring on it, and some Badass Break Dancing.
33:54 That's kind of a bummer you can't charge with 240V with it powering a load. Thanks for the thorough review.
Holy cow! for a full setup with 3 inverters and 15 battery modules, that's 796lbs or 361kg! 800lbs is a lot of weight to place in one spot on your floor. However, it is totally worth it for true peace of mind!
If you were going to get a system that large, it would be best in a garage or on a concrete pad. They do give off heat so that's another install consideration.
@@HOBOTECHwhat is your favorite whole home system that isn't going to take that many batteries and inverters? I live in Las Vegas so it gets hot I need the ability to use some kind of small air conditioner if I need to contain myself in one room. What air conditioner would you use and what is the best all-around solar generator
I am a beta tester for the DPU, I can confirm that with the level 2 ev charging, you can charge at 7.2kw using the j1772 adapter and the correct charger. I can use a home level 2 charger hooked up to a dryer outlet and charge it within an hour.
Dr Hobo - Thank you for the great look at OBPP (one big powerful prototype), way better than looking at YAP.
Appreciate your hard work to keep us in the know on what’s coming available, literally AS IT IS. Interesting that EF went the extra mile to have heating in the battery units. Great for quick install mobile power in a Class A/B/C, esp in a partly/not heated section of RV basement; the battery units will protect against cold charging damage. Sorry about the tablet - maybe EcoFlow will help out.
Thanks again!!
The most detailed TH-camr. I was thinking ecoflow will stick to portability like make somethings x10 the ecoflow delta pro that someone can carry like a crane the same way we carry a diesel generator
Nice to see that it offers real sine wave output (not simulated). When you do your follow-up review, maybe address how you would do surge suppression and preventing a lightning strike from turning the investment into landfill material. Hmm... 5-year financing and 3-year warranty.
Good idea. It's pretty simple to fuse solar. The warranty is in fact 5 years as stated in the video.
@@HOBOTECH Ahh... I was interested in a different use-case - using the Smart Home Panel in conjunction with the Delta Pro Ultra as an on-grid power backup. The Smart Home Panel has just 3 years according to EcoFlow's website.
@@C3Cooper Okay the Smart Home Panel "2" in fact has 10 years warranty. You're talking about the old stuff.
I'm waiting for the Delta Pro Ultra...Deluxe Premier Gold Titanium Platinum Max, with a light.
You forgot the Delta Pro Ultra Mega 😂
Been waiting for you HOBOTECH, and Gavins Garage to present this powerful Ecoflow DPU 7.2K Wh...Bravo Zulu Sir. Hope to see Gavin do one soon in the near future, because the 2 of you content creators always have a fine presentation on the units you present, thats for sure.
Great review. I would love to see a video of this hooked to a main panel with an automatic transfer switch.
Would love to see video on smart home panel 2, specifically if it needs a cloud connection just to function / how much data it’s transmitting about your power consumption, etc.
Holy crap that thing is a beast
Great review. I suspect the 6400-watt limit is due to the battery limitation. It's pulling over 1C from the battery and so the battery is telling the inverter to shut down. I suspect you're correct with your theory of more battery will fix this.
This is a great unit at the price till you need to add more battery power. The batteries are quite high. I built my own 240v/48v/15.2kwh HBS.
It's a prototype test model. Jasonoid, another solar channel reviewed this today as well. He said he contacted Ecoflow about it and that was the response he got.
If feels like there is literally 100s of reviews on this product online over the last 24 hours. I have seen 12+ of them personally. Yours is, as usual, one of the most complete and informative. Thank you for all you hard work over the years.
Does the 240v output work when charging with 240v. I think I heard you say no but my use case would be a 50amp RV and plug into campground electrical at 50a with adaptor but run RV off 240v 30amp DPU outlet. Will that work>
Great product(s) from EcoFlow, and great reviews from the 'Professor.' 👍
Nice job as always! Cheers Hobo from VT!
It would be nice to see on the average run time chart, a smaller mini-split ac/heat pump(9k btu) being this seems to be the future of HVAC. Great video, as usual!
Thank you for such a thorough video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Debating between this or 2 Delta Pros. I can get this for $5k or 2 Delta Pros for about the same cost. Which would you go with?
I think you forgot to mention that charging the DPU from 240 v 30 amp outlet gives 7200 watts into the DPU.
The first time i charged my DPU at 7200 watts I backed up a ways when the display was 7200 watts, a TOU champion.
I too miss Burl Ives. He was the quintessential folk song singer and showman.
EcoFlow DPU is definitely feature rich. I have 8 EcoFlow products when I count the extra batteries. The only feature missing is the direct DC charging of batteries from their EcoFlow smart generator. With all the built in charging capabilities I guess its not needed. Everyone I know with 240VAC needs are to provide power to their well water pumps. I have had no issues monitoring my EcoFlow units with their App.
The first solar/powerstation I purchased was a Goal Zero Lithium 1400 For $1800.00 in June 2019. Do the math. It is still functional but its features are no where near the capabilities of todays products.
Classic Professor, so informative and fun!!
Excellent presentation. Thank you. Would love to this review in detail when it comes out if you can get one: Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger. Would like to see how truly efficient it is at various loads. Would also like to see how low the adjustable output is, if it can go below 1 amp and the granularity tested. This thing could be a real game-changer (even at lower outputs) if it works as the doc/manuals suggest.
Great review. I have a tri-fuel generator that cost less than $1,000 that can run my 240v well pump, heating system and most lights. ** BUT ** if i'm out of town and there's a blizzard or noreaster causing a power outage- I'd much prefer this sitting in my garage plugged into the transfer switch so my wife or kids just has to turn it on. The alternative is she'd have to pull a heavy generator outside and attach to a propane tank or fill with gasoline. Also - after going through a week long outage 2 years in a row due to storms- the amount of gas & propane i now keep on hand is problematic. This is what I've been waiting for.
Not to mention a fuel generator alerts every criminal in town that you have power and a stockpile of fuel to steal.
Spend twice as much and put in a 26KW Generac. Your wife will thank you and it will run for 4 to 5 days if warranted. Save the $5K you would have spent on this and sell the other tri fuel jenny for $500 and you will have a 10-15 year solution.
@@busterhyman6633 maybe if I’m on ng, but I’m on propane. Wouldn’t be enough to run it for two days. I’ve already had outages that lasted more than a week. With a generac there’d be no propane to cook with so after only 2 days the problem is now much worse.
bms cutting out on high drain. I like your real world testing!
Always good to see the Jean-Luc Picard scene! 😂
I always enjoy your presentations and reviews, I really want to know what is the brad for your AC to DC convertor and where I can get one?
Looks like the front bumper of the cybertruck.
Funny looking thing it is.
Excellent review. How exactly would you be able to return this 180lb beast to Ecoflow for service? Moving company?😅
Same way you get it. FedEx.
Great video. Nice to see more powerful units coming out in the near future.
The nice thing is this should put a spark under Bluetti and others to come out with competing products to hopefully drive costs down. I already have a bluetti AC200Max - which can run most items in my house except the well pump. I would gladly replace that with something like this that can do split phase and meet all my needs. I know many of us who are interested in these generators are interested in well pump capability.
Looks like a good unit.
I think they should offer the 240V as a standalone unit.
Umm ... it is a standalone 240v unit! That was the entire video!
@@HOBOTECH it’s a combo 120 & 240 volt. But it does look promising.
Love ya hobo, you remind me of my ol school high school science teacher 😂
Great Review! I was thinking about getting one of these as a home backup UPS, but my understanding from your review and from EcoFlow support as well, is there is no 240 Volt Pass through in UPS mode, when the 240 Volt Generator Input is used (All AC outlets shut off). This means that the absolute maximum pass through power available as a UPS (no solar input) using only the 120V AC charge cord, assuming 100% efficiency and nothing being used for charging the battery, would be 1800 Watts (120 Volts x 15 Amps). It would seem the 240 Volt Split phase output is available solely from the Delta Pro Ultra Inverter. With only the 120 Volt AC charging input supplying power, that would limit the 240 Volt split phase output to a max 7.5 amps, again assuming 100 efficiency and nothing being used for charging the battery. I'm wondering if you've run a test to see what happens when the DPU's battery is depleted and only the AC Charge cord is supplying power ....... does it continue to pass through on the UPS standby outlets? Is there still 240 output or does the unit shut down. It's unfortunate that a 240 Volt AC 30 amp input cannot be passed through as a UPS. Unfortunately this makes the unit a no sale for me. Cheers!
It will charge with and output split 240v if using the Smart Home Panel 2. See the review linked in the description.
Thanks for the info HoboTech! Unfortunately I don't want or need the Smart Panel for UPS as I have a transfer panel already installed for my critical loads. Otherwise, the DPU seems the perfect machine.
Combo is $5799 with 1 battery and additional batteries are $2999.
It is a hefty price tag.
EG4 8kw inverter is $1500
EG4 5kw server rack is $1500
So for the combo price ($5799) you could get a EG4 15kwh system. Same 15kwh batteries from EcoFlow would cost $9000.
I guess the 240v output is that makes it interesting.
I have the same setup it's just two ecoflow Delta Pros together. They have wheels on them and 7200 wh. But I only paid $3,800.
If you got two of those for $3800, that's a deal.
Where did you get two plus the connecting cable for that price?Best price I've seen delta pro was $2350 for one unit and I've been watching closely.
Hmm, it seems nice, but I pre ordered the 13kw power wall for 8,400 each with 10 years of warranty. Buy more save more per power wall. 5600 with incentives. Installation is extra. But, it offers more.
I think I saw the prices on the Ecoflow for 6000 last year. 1000 off for early birds. 2800 for additional battery mods.
Great Video, more tests on this product please!
The only thing that bugs me is no option to hook up the Smart Generator and Wave to it. I realize this is aimed at the whole house backup market which I think is awesome.
Awesome
If it lets you, do the AM Radio test and EMF checks with the display off.
Those displays are notorious for noise and tricky to control.
Hi, where can I buy the AC to DC converter you used in this video to show how solar would charge this DPU unit? Thanks
They advertise this as a home backup battery but I noticed the 240 V outlet is 30 amps. Your oven draws more than that And your dryer draws close to that So you probably couldn't run anything else if you were running your dryer. Would you agree with this statement.
Can the battery packs be connected if placed side by side? And can alternator charging be set up with these?
Hi professor! I was hoping you would test the A/C charging while outputting 240v. I heard that’s possible with this unit.
I do this in the follow up video with the home panel 2.
Maybe it exceeds amperage on one phase in 240v connector?
No DC cigarette lighter adapter? Dammit I miss seeing you give these units a quick prostate exam. It always makes me laugh!
I am BOTH a prepare AND a prostate physician....loved your comment. LOL
Whomever has played MDK2 appreciates your outfit and music used in this video. Thumbs up!
I have a eco flow river pro and would like a video on how to safely “over panel” one so that you can (more commonly) get the max solar charge, without damaging the unit.
Always great videos....any chance you could make a video on your "fake solar simulator setup"? And could that setup be powered by a 36v battery? Thanks
No connector for the "small" Ecoflow batteries / to power the Wave 2 pretty much all day?
Surprisingly, no. Although maybe they'll design an adapter for the battery port that can do that.
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
Hi Professor Hobo, I have a question if I have 7200W solar panel installed, which is over 4000 w max high voltage PV input, even combine with the 1600 w max low voltage PV input, seems it is not possible to connect it all to the DPU? Should I need 2 DPU runs parallel? Hope can get your input. Thanks!🥰
Would it be bad to set these up in hot Houston garages? Or is it better to keep them indoors?
It will be fine in a garage.
UPS 0 time why not. That is total safe!
question: will it 'or can it be charge from, or by a wind generator ?
Hi HoboTech
Many thanks for all your help with the solar videos.
What kind of Solar panels and how many panels would be needed to charge this to 100% everyday??
Many thanks HoboTech for all your help and professionalism.
Thank you again
God Bless
1000w of solar on a perfect day would charge 1 battery in 6 hours. Recommendations at gohobo.io/store
@@HOBOTECHso how many panels do you need to keep it going so it stays charged putting the max load on it ? I would love to have a refrigerator and a small air conditioning unit attached to it as well as other small devices
How long would it take to charge with solar?
How does the Bypass Mode (20ms) work on the 240v? If you’re charging via 120v, how does it pass through grid power at 240v?
In bypass mode, are you limited to 1800w? For example if your in this mode, and a big load like a 3 ton AC kicks on, will the relay switch even though grid was never lost?
I don't see the EV and home 240v charging cables on your list?
Will the cables fit the new Delta Pro 3?
I would like to buy the home 240v charging cable.
I don't see them on the Ecoflow website or Amazon.
Thank you for the video.
This beast is king of the jungle.
So far 5 channels that I subscribe to have uploaded reviews of this thing today, and nearly 20 other channels across the platform as of just noon.
That's it, I'm creating a TH-cam channel so that I can get thousands of dollars worth of free crap too! 😂
If it was that easy everyone would be doing. Most don't understand the time and cost involved in building a channel for years before these types of offers come in.
@@TKCL Lol, we'll see. I don't think they're as discerning as you think. So far the count is up to nearly 30 promotional videos on this platform alone in the past 24hrs. I haven't even checked other social media platforms yet.
@@NikeHM69 that's because yesterday was the official launch and release date at CES, I was there. 30 channels out of millions isn't many. It's part of their promotional campaign to have these released at the same time.
@@TKCL Yes I've known how all of that works for quite some time. They send out a product under the condition that content creators post a video about it on a certain day, usually a launch day. Some people are upfront about it being a commercial, some not so much. Regardless of whether the contract requires the video to be positive or not, it's well understood that a negative review will mean that you probably won't be included in any future promotions. That's my issue with this type of stuff.
We're required by law to disclose a paid promotion to TH-cam and you'll see this appear at the beginning of the video. Of course everyone gets one for free to review. How would a channel survive if they had to pay $4799 to buy a product? Anyway, I never sign contracts telling me what to say, how to say it, or stating the review must be positive. I don't ever offer video previews to the brand either to keep us all honest. So take that however you like.
Loving your extensive reviews, Professor! If you have some time, could you look into the VDL HS2400? I believe it’s their newest flagship power station.
you can only get up to 7200 watts is with two or more batteries - Mentioned at 19 minutes in.
I never said that. I said that might be the case. Ecoflow has said it's a prototype limitation.
@@HOBOTECH I didn't say you said that. I was saying it was a limitation of the system, and you mention it being a potential limitation around 19 minutes in. I could have worded it a bit differently to differentiate who said what.
Professor Hobo, I love all of your reviews and am a subscriber now, but I was wondering why you don't ever actually demonstrate using these PowerStations with solar panels. In buying a PowerStation, one of the most important things (for me) is how well it takes charge from solar panels. I get that you use a simulator to test the solar input, but I want to test it with actual solar panels, EF brand and possibly others, to gauge how long it really would take under different conditions, and how well the panels work as well. Because when you REALLY need a backup battery system, is when you have no electric power AND you have no access to gas or propane, so a gas generator is useless. Now you are only relying on the Sun. How far can you get along with the ECOFLOW Ultra and some panels? That's wha tI am most interested in knowing. Just a suggestion for a future video. Perhaps others would want to see that as well. Thanks!
Because even though I live in AZ, we don't always have sun. I also work at night. The simulator test is exactly the same as using a solar panel. In fact, better because you don't have to deal with the variances in build or brand. I'd literally have to test with dozens of brands to make everyone happy and that's not happening. I'm testing the power station, not the solar panels.
What are your thoughts on the Bluetti's refurbished AC300/AC500/AC200MAX. Maybe a review?
I'd never buy a refurb.
Is this "pass through" charging capable (in all charging modes)?
This is a Tesla Power Wall on rollers with portable solar panel option 🎉🎉
Wow! This is da BEAST!!! 👍😊
Great video, Professor🫡 I am a big fan of the testing part, the music just got me👍
Thanks for a great video agin. 2 questions Can you use 240v and charge at the same time with out the power wall ? no 2 The generator plug can you use the dpu with only one battery or do you need 2 batteries to charge with the generator plug. Thanks
You can use 240v output while charging with 120v or solar. You only need one battery to use all the features.
@@HOBOTECH now that was super duper fast response. Thanks a bunch
And that’s great news the ability to charge while using the 240v is a big plus.
How much are just the 6kw batteries?
I’m looking for something that would both integrate as a home backup but still be portable enough to power our pop up trailer when camping, so this is pretty overkill.
Maybe a tiny house power source in the future. 👍
Click the link, chose "custom to fit your home". Pricing is there.
What kind of ambient temperature can these with stand.? In Houston my garage can get 100 degrees in July & August? Just curious.
Environmental Operating Temperature
Operating Temperature
-4°F-113°F
Great job on the review. Like and commenting for the algo so you can get a new tablet and armored case. ;)
I have a 7000W solar array that is grid tied giving me solar energy when the sun shines and grid power at night. Could I use this for night power and charge from the grid/solar during the day?
If the array is under 450v DC, yes.
@Hobotech: At around 6:10 you mention it can be charged at 240v from a gas/diesel generator. Does the generator need to be an inverter generator or can it be a standard (non-sine) generator?
Need to add that thanks button on upload after live is over so we all pitch in on his new tablet
Can this support two 3.5 ton central ac units? If so how long?
Great reveiw. Well done 👏
they have it rated like a generator. 7200 peak watts. I stand corrected most likely the battery has a 100 amp BMS is the issue
Always the most thorough reviews 👊👍👍👍
I'm going to guess your upper limit inverter issue was single battery related. I'd imagine with 2+ it'll put out the full 7200w easily.
I'm sold