@starwarlover1016 you need to burn alot of wood and tend to it non stop to get a consistent slow charge Good if you were lost in the woods with a dead battery but not much else
I’m hoping that big 90 degree cable to hook up the backup battery, will also work to connect two power stations together. They are so discounted it makes more sense to buy more power stations than the backup battery, lol
We scored this unit on an Amazon glitch I guess. Priced at $899 with a $400 coupon. We should have bought several at $499. It ran our air fryer this morning. I am excited to see what it can do. We got the e600lfp for $258 with codes (thank you hobotech). That unit has boiled water with an electric kettle pulling over 1400 watts. I bet this unit will do more than 2200w also. It charges insanely fast from AC. Thanks for the great review. I have watched it several times.
You are awesome. Please consider calling tech support for every product and see if you can get them on the phone and how long the process takes. Just an idea.
Wow, Dr Hobo - Pecron even fixed the USBC ports to put out 100W instead of only 64W in the two previous versions of this generator. Thanks for the continued excellent and comprehensive look at these ‘generator’ power bank products. You’re the GURU!!
The old expansion battery is 24 volt the newer one is 48v. You can not use the 48 volt on the other stations. Rumor is they are making a 3600w station thus switching over to 48v systems. I have 2 of the e2000 lfp's but I want the 3600 w station. So I will wait for that and add the newer batterys to the 3600 w station.
Excellent presentation. Thanks for sharing. Love the 12v output options and the high amp loads. Jackery and Bluetti are going to lose truck/van/boat/car business to this unit since they have practically abandoned 12v output options in their newest units. The Pecron E1500 Pro also has some very nice 12v output options. For use in my truck/car/boat where I need strong 12v options - I would pick either of these Pecron units over the newer Jackery/Bluetti units.
I have the Pecron E2000 and this thing has a lot of upgrades from that model. The app, the automatic detection of expansion batteries, the UPS feature and the faster charging speeds from the wall. Very cool to see the company is making so many improvements.
@@joedowdiii Well feature wise definitely not. The 1,500 has all the upgrades I listed above. The e2000 of course is 500 more watts, allows for 400w more solar charging and on the top end has 1000 watts more expandable battery storage space. But the 1500 is cheaper right now I think by 200 on preorder. This one is definitely "better" in the sense of capability and less bugs. The 2000 is just a little bigger.
@@joedowdiii This will keep the fridge cool, lights on, phone charged great for any normal power outage. Anything extended and you will need to charge it with panels or a gas generator. You just have to calculate your usage and divide it up. Since I bought my solar generator, everything I buy I look at watt usage now. A fan, a heater, a light, so I know in an emergency how far my battery will get me.
Love the review. Another satisfied Pecron customer here. I've had the E2000LFP and the EB-3000 for just under a year and it generates a total of 4992 wh. Use it everyday and my only complaint is the ac charger bricks. Then again, I bought a second one so I'm able to fast charge at a max of 1200w from ac or a generator as needed. It's been a great company, quick to answer any questions and good customer service. Looking to buy my second EB-3000 this winter to max out at 8064 Wh.
This is a really great review. This Pecron has some really nice features. I actually like that it can handle different voltage ranges on the solar charging but I do agree there should be some overlap to the input voltages. Glad you gave it the Hobotech Award.
One thing to note about the extended battery is that it is a 48V version, which is not compatible with the E2000LFP that uses a 24V battery, so don’t get the two mixed up. I believe the new model is something like EP3000-48V. Also the size of the battery is probably designed to also work with their even larger 3600LFP(?) coming out later. They still could have done a better job with the stacking though like you said. As for the 100W input, I was of the understanding that was more for car charging and by having a different connector you can’t accidentally plug it in to the high input port and fry your car’s 12V circuit or blow a fuse. On my E600LFP that has the same two inputs with the same voltage ranges printed (albeit lower total power) I was able to charge with a single 200W 18V panel in the 400W port. Pecron’s solar chargers take up to 30 seconds to kick in so you have to wait sometimes. This unit may be different though since it is 48V internally. Thank you for spotting that current drop when charging above 80V. I was thinking of getting this to run my office off grid and overpanelling slightly with 4 200W panels in series. Many panels have slightly more than 20Vmax so this is something to be wary of. Bit of a shame about the inverter idle consumption for using it all the time as a solar UPS. Hopefully now they have an app and updatable firmware that can be improved along with adjustable max charging rate and also adjustable charge and discharge limits for prolonging the life of the battery.
Great review - thank you! I am VERY happy with the Pecron E1500LFP! FYI: To charge the battery more "gently" using AC 120V at a rate slower than the default 1400W, I plug it into the wall & turn on the AC mode, then plug in a small heater. The E1500LFP will automatically turn on the "UPS mode" and will only send the battery approximately 1600W "minus" however much the heater is using. In my case 1600W - 700W = 900W charging. Something safer than a heater is desirable (perhaps a TV)...YMMV
if you do enough digging they are coming out with a 3600 wh version. I have 2 pecron 2000 lfp, 1 600lfp and the whole river 2 line. These pecrons do the job as good as any of the big names. Plus the AC efficiency on the 2000lfp models are at or above 90%
Where did you read about this? This is almost perfect for me except I'm hoping they add DC-DC charging at a faster rate than the lighter plug. Or a second MPPT input that takes more than 100 Watts so that I can run Panels on one side and an external DC to DC charger on the second port.
Looks impressive. Only nits are lack of Bluetooth for the app support, and I would like to see another 100w usb-c. But overall very impressed. Pecron has just entered the vendors I look at when getting my next unit.
The upcoming E3600LFP looks like a beast. 92lbs. dual 1200W MPPT charge controllers, RV TT 30A 120V output, 3072 wat hours of capacity, 3500W inverter and supports the same EP2000 external batteries as the E1500LFP.
Great news from pecron about this model :) P.S. Pecron has just extended the warranty of the e1500lfp (even if you already bought it) to 5 YEARS !!!!! P.P.S. Make sure that you get over to the website and register your system today and extend your warranty from 2 years to 5 years !!!!! P.P.P.S. :)
@@RamblinBobReviews yeah thanks! Think that's pudding me over the edge to this unit from a bluetti and anker that are similar but this one seems to beat out with ports
I've had 2000 lfp in the bed of my Jeep Gladiator for the past year and a half. Charge it from the vehicle alternator via a Renogy 2000w inverter. It Powers my off-grid trailer, cooking, lights, entertainment, and Starlink. It hasn't missed a beat but the charging brick is starting to fail - very dusty environment. It occasionally stops charging - I disconnect it - try to blow it out - bang it around a bit (yeah bang it around and beat on it) and it starts again. I was going to expand with the 3000 but would still be dependent on the charging brick - so after watching this review I just bought the 1500 lfp instead (used the Hobo discount code and paid a total of $854.00. It will give less total storage but give me much faster charging at 1400w and also give me total redundancy in the event of failure of the 2000 or 1500, I wish there was a way to charge the 2000 from the1500 to be able to eliminate the weak link of the charging brick,
I'm so grateful for your help on all your videos I just hope you see my message and understand. Hi I'm Anthony and I live in subsidize housing with my fiance and son, I use a ebike to get around from work and home groceries etc but I recently got out of the hospital because of a hit and run from a lady that wasn't paying attention to me in the bike lane. The police calls it a blind spot were I was hit and there was nothing they could do, now I owe my hospital $2,000 in bills and my bike got ruined from this mess. I don't ask for hand outs just someone to please understand my situation and acknowledge my unfortunate experience and have a kind heart. Thank you for reading.
If Goldilocks was trying out various power stations, looking for one that was JUST the right size, weight and capability, this latest offering from Pecron would be the one she ultimately chose. It's "enough" without being too much, and this introductory price makes it the very best value in portable stations, at least for the next few days. One of the best videos you've done, as well.
Please consider adding repair details to your 'solar generator' reviews. Specifically, where does it get sent for repairs? And who pays for shipping? Both ways? One way?
Another great review! I’ve learned SO much from your channel the last few years. Thanks much! “Get your Pecron” 😂😂. That should definitely be their motto!
Curious re ups capability.... Let's say the power goes out and the ups kicks in perfectly But the power is out for a while and it runs out of power and shuts down When grid power kicks back in, what mode does start in (does it start?)? Does it pass through power and charge up? If the power goes back out, is it still running in ups mode? Or do your devices lose power the second time around
The major flaw in this is the two solar charge ports. If you have two 12V 200W panels you can’t get maximum benefit from your panels. If you run them in series your at 24V which isn’t enough to trigger the minimum required 32V for the main charge controller. So you need to use the smaller port which is limited to 100W.
Just get a extra panel. You won’t even get the max 400w of charging with 2 200 watts because of efficiency. 3 will max out the charging capabilities even on a slight cloudy day.
The battery is out of proportion because I think its more focused on them releasing a 3600 w station. At least thats the rumor. Thats the one I will be interested in. It's good to see the big boys getting some competition. Great review as always.
Looks great! and definitely best bang for the buck but one thing missing to be the perfect option for a van conversion/RV is DC-DC charging and I'm not talking about the turtle speed lighter plug, which I know is limited more by the vehicle lighter amperage. Even if they offered it as an additional external accessory with a property connection that would make it the perfect power station What are your thoughts on using boost converter charger to simulate solar charging. Or would it be better off using an AC 1000W converter from the vehicle lighter/ separate direct 12 volt connection to battery into to the AC input. With an ON/OFF switch so you can charge while your engine is running and driving long distances. Taking advantage of dual charging and leaving the 700 Watt solar plug available for a few solar panels? Their current 3000 is good and have dual 600 Solar inputs but no Anderson plug.
No one has done it yet and I think the main reason is liability. They don't want people blaming the power station for issues with the car electrical system. That's why an official external DC-DC charger that plugs into one of their aircraft connectors is the ideal solution and meets people half way who don't want to build a system but would be able to hook up a car amp. DC-DC chargers can be hard on alternators if you don't have a surplus of amperage or if you have a smart alternator you kind of have to know what you're doing and ,I guess they assume that at that point you might as well just build your own system and there's no market for it. I know I'm capable of building my own but I like the idea of a portable power station because I work remotely and out of coffee shops, share spaces, etc I want to be able to take it out of my van put it on a rolling kart/bag and roll it in with me and charge it indoors while I'm working at a coffee shop. @@dansklrvids7303
During your review's Noise test into the Guitar Amp, you demonstrated minimal power noise. Since you mentioned HAM radio, I am wondering how clean is the 12 Volt 30 Amp DC output, given that many HAM radios take 12-13.8 VDC power, and transmit using 20 or so AMPs. Also, does the 12 VDC 30A output have any short circuit or fuse protection built in ??
I was seriously considering pre-ordering this from Pecron, but 478.35 dollars for shipping to Canada is ridiculous. Delivery with 2x200W solar panels is even worse at 499 dollars. Especially when comparing to the free shipping offered by competitors like Bluetti.
Wow. Looks like they thought, or tried to, of everything. Finally a decent solar input, 700 watt is very good input especially in a vehicle. Love the xt60 360 watt output. Was at first disappointment at the low wattage but since you can also use the RV plug for your 12v load center, it’s fine for an extra outlet. I have 3 improvements to suggest 1) put all the plugs, outlets and buttons on the front, except that battery connection cable perhaps. If I want to use this in my RV/Van, I don’t want cables to be sticking out everywhere. My current Delta has cables on 3 sides, you can’t put that device in any corner. 2) a dc and ac timer. I know it turns off under no load after a few hours. But when does it turn on? My Delta turns on when I get solar in the morning, but I have to turn on ac and dc manually. With a timer I could turn it off at 10pm and on at 8am, avoiding phantom drain. Outputs could also turn on when solar charging. There are a few ménagement options. 3) 4) app is wireless? Isn’t Bluetooth better? 5) dedicated laptop output. My MacBook used a 140 watt brick, but a usb-c plug to actually supply the power. So a 150 watt usb-c outlet for high powered laptops would be so sweet. No AC needed. 6) if not already possible, add a 200 watt mppt to the expansion battery. 7) redesign the batteries plug location. Smack in the middle will allow more mounting/placement options. 8) build a special unit inside one of those karaoke stations, with lights and all, turning it into the entertainment center. I’d buy that for the fancy lights alone…
They solar input will be tough for folks like me that just have a hodgepodge of different panels from 60W to 100W to 250W. To really get this thing charged in a day I’ll need to throw together a couple panels to meet the 32v minimum on the larger MPPT controller. I wonder why they designed the E1500LFP with this MPPT controller configuration? Otherwise great features and great price. E1500LFP Solar Input: DC5521: Voc 12V~18V / 100W Max /7A Max GX16MF: Voc 32V~95V / 700W Max / 15A Max
@@dfgatorfan Yes the smaller 5521 100w charging port with a 12-18v range does actually support up to 24v. The manual says 12-18v (VOC less that 25v). I emailed Pecron and they confirmed this. Not sure why it is only labeled as 12-18.
I'm working hard to figure out which portable power pack to buy during these Black Friday (and Hobotech) deals, but I'm failing due to my lack of understanding of the power translations. I've been on the fence between an EcoFlow unit and an Anker unit. (I've heard lots of negative feedback on Bluetti's customer service, unfortunately.) But now I'm thinking this Pecron may be the best bang for my buck. Mostly, I'll want to be able to power a BougeRV fridge (bought through Hobotech) on the road for a few days, and a sump pump at my home. If I can run a space heater in a pinch, all the better. I feel like this video just told me I can do all of those things with this Pecron unit. Am I right or wrong?
I can’t help you with all the specifics but I can tell you my 600 I bought as a gift then unboxed and kept 😂 will run a space heater in my house, the only think it has not run is a pampered chef air fryer. I am considering getting this unit
This unit looks great if it is reliable and customer service is good. What is the discharge rate of the battery over time with the unit turned completely off. My Anker 757 loses approximately 1% per day when turned off which I find borderline unacceptable. This would be an importance piece of data when consider storing long term.
comment on the battery expansion cable. I saw another video where they have the battery on the bottom. They had the cable rotated toward the front not toward the back like you have. That is the cable is bowed toward you not away from you. Not sure if this will work in your case. Their cable could be designed differently.
It looks like you can turn the expansion battery vertical so their logo faces up, is looks like the height of the expa sion is the same size as the depth of the main unit...yeah, it will be top heavy and want to fall over
New subscriber here. Looking best option for van conversion and like the 12v-30amp output o connect to 12V fuse panel. What is the difference between this 1500LFP 30amp port and the Ecoflow pro Anderson port?
Hey Hobo Tech...I purchased the LFP 2000 in black on black earlier this year 🎉❤...im still building up my 1600 watts of solar input..I did buy the 3 year extra warranty from Amazon...is this unit better? I see the new model has an application now.❣️If any issues ..i think..i can return it or have it replaced..Great review Brother😢 💪🇺🇸🙏
Can this unit handle Series/parallel 93volts (VOC) 77volts (normal) @ 17.2amps (8.6amps x 2) . Over paneling about 1200w to feed a steady 700w at peak hrs of the day. I assume the unit will reduce to advertised 15amp input? Thanks for your time.
Are the fans too loud when charging it from a wall outlet? Can I change the watt settings when charging from wall outlet? 1400 watts seem to aggressive to the batteries.
Awesome. Besides the warranty it's right up there, certainly value-wise. Glad I learned about the power drop from maxing out the solar input voltage. Is an 80-85% rule of thumb with the voltage useful for most stations with high solar input?
Hi Professor Hobo, little question, I would want to connect a AC fridge permanently to a Pecron E1500LFP. I would connect 2, 300 watt panels to it in series. the AC fridge uses roughly between 300 and 550 wh a day. If I understand correctly, I would need to also take into account the 1044 wh of the AC idle usage a day and add this to the consomption of the fridge right? That would mean roughly between 1344 to 1599 wh per day, which on a sunny day would work with the panels probably but it the winter it wouldn't. So next to the solar input I would also need to use the AC input at all times. Is it possible to use solar input and AC input at the same time, and connect a fridge to it (24/7)? thanks for you help! I'm still new at this:)
My car has 400 watt inverter to AC. Can you set this one to only pull 400 watt input on the AC in the app or on the unit? Currently have AC180 that when in silent mode pulls 287 watts.
Their website is showing that the Solar Input for 100W is actually the DC5521 and can handle anywhere from 12~25V. I was initially worried my 24V Bluetti 120 panel was unusable because it was outside the range specified in the video. 7:50
I use a harbor freight panel ( 100 watt 20 volt ) on my DC5521 input on my 2000LFP. I talked to there tech support to see if it would cause harm since the max says 18 volts and they said it is fine.
@BVHVVH 2 minutes ago Professor... I have two E1500LFP's both with two cascaded batteries. When I am backfeeding one, 120VAC phase/bus bar of my main breaker panel with either Pecron, most all of my screw-in base and 4' tube style LED lights significantly flicker. I have a Breville countertop over that also sounds very labored when running off the Pecron. When I run any led lights when the oven is on, the flickering triples. Both units are outputting 59.9 Hz, 120 +- Volts and 2 - 2.5 THD, more or less identical to my grid power. I just picked up a DeltaPro Ultra and have backfed the main breaker panel with it's 240 VAC output and I get zero flickering and no oven issues. It's not an inductive feedback or radio interference issue. Have you run a phase of your house from your E1500 and experienced any of this?
I'm excited to see where prices go in 2024, already this unit is $100 cheaper than when you reviewed it. To think prices will go back up in the short term isn't realistic in my opinion as China has to slash prices because of a limited market, stiff competition and thier weak economy.
Hello. New subscriber here. Do you think it is a coincidence that in order to reach max watt input for solar charging you had to be somewhat within the Vmp and Voc range for two Pecron PV300 solar panels set up in series? You received the best wattage inputs in the 65-80 volt range.
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You missed an opportunity and when you got out the big battery to say I'm whipping out my pecker on or my big black pecron
Maybe your next video review the Biolite a generator powered by fire 🔥 you read that right fire.
@starwarlover1016 you need to burn alot of wood and tend to it non stop to get a consistent slow charge
Good if you were lost in the woods with a dead battery but not much else
Just ordered one. Thanks for your code!
I've had a 20A 3KWh Pecron for 2 years, and it's been rock solid. Wouldn't hesitate to buy the brand again.
very good to hear on the longevity. I have two 2000lfp models just bought before summer of this year. so far so good.
How much use has it seen? Just curious
I’m hoping that big 90 degree cable to hook up the backup battery, will also work to connect two power stations together. They are so discounted it makes more sense to buy more power stations than the backup battery, lol
We scored this unit on an Amazon glitch I guess. Priced at $899 with a $400 coupon. We should have bought several at $499. It ran our air fryer this morning. I am excited to see what it can do. We got the e600lfp for $258 with codes (thank you hobotech). That unit has boiled water with an electric kettle pulling over 1400 watts. I bet this unit will do more than 2200w also. It charges insanely fast from AC. Thanks for the great review. I have watched it several times.
What coupon!? What a steal.
You are awesome. Please consider calling tech support for every product and see if you can get them on the phone and how long the process takes. Just an idea.
Wow, Dr Hobo - Pecron even fixed the USBC ports to put out 100W instead of only 64W in the two previous versions of this generator. Thanks for the continued excellent and comprehensive look at these ‘generator’ power bank products. You’re the GURU!!
Pecron now updated their warranty on the website to 5 years! Great deal.
Pecron website is now showing 2 expansion batteries. The new one, EP3000 is sized appropriately for the E1500.
The old expansion battery is 24 volt the newer one is 48v. You can not use the 48 volt on the other stations. Rumor is they are making a 3600w station thus switching over to 48v systems. I have 2 of the e2000 lfp's but I want the 3600 w station. So I will wait for that and add the newer batterys to the 3600 w station.
Thank u for introducing me to this, I ordered one😊 love your reviews Hobo..
Your reviews are the best out there!!! Thanks for all the great info!!!
Excellent presentation. Thanks for sharing. Love the 12v output options and the high amp loads. Jackery and Bluetti are going to lose truck/van/boat/car business to this unit since they have practically abandoned 12v output options in their newest units. The Pecron E1500 Pro also has some very nice 12v output options. For use in my truck/car/boat where I need strong 12v options - I would pick either of these Pecron units over the newer Jackery/Bluetti units.
I have the Pecron E2000 and this thing has a lot of upgrades from that model. The app, the automatic detection of expansion batteries, the UPS feature and the faster charging speeds from the wall. Very cool to see the company is making so many improvements.
so is the e2000 better than this one in the video?
@@joedowdiii Well feature wise definitely not. The 1,500 has all the upgrades I listed above. The e2000 of course is 500 more watts, allows for 400w more solar charging and on the top end has 1000 watts more expandable battery storage space. But the 1500 is cheaper right now I think by 200 on preorder. This one is definitely "better" in the sense of capability and less bugs. The 2000 is just a little bigger.
@@dbrennan1523 ok so for just a temporary storm back up the 1500 should be fine ?
@@joedowdiii This will keep the fridge cool, lights on, phone charged great for any normal power outage. Anything extended and you will need to charge it with panels or a gas generator. You just have to calculate your usage and divide it up. Since I bought my solar generator, everything I buy I look at watt usage now. A fan, a heater, a light, so I know in an emergency how far my battery will get me.
Thank you for the input I ordered the 2000 as I don't need apps and anything else just bsck up power and they are both 899 right now
Love the review. Another satisfied Pecron customer here. I've had the E2000LFP and the EB-3000 for just under a year and it generates a total of 4992 wh. Use it everyday and my only complaint is the ac charger bricks. Then again, I bought a second one so I'm able to fast charge at a max of 1200w from ac or a generator as needed. It's been a great company, quick to answer any questions and good customer service. Looking to buy my second EB-3000 this winter to max out at 8064 Wh.
I think im going with the 2000lfp as well. I dont care about the brick, its either going to be charged in the wall at home or by solar abroad.
I have two Pecrons , the 600 and the 2000. Love them both and have preordered the 1500LFP. Wish the extra battery packs were one model fits all
This is a really great review. This Pecron has some really nice features. I actually like that it can handle different voltage ranges on the solar charging but I do agree there should be some overlap to the input voltages. Glad you gave it the Hobotech Award.
I ordered one, Thank you Tom
I don’t need one now but almost wanted to buy it. Nice sounding rig.
One thing to note about the extended battery is that it is a 48V version, which is not compatible with the E2000LFP that uses a 24V battery, so don’t get the two mixed up. I believe the new model is something like EP3000-48V. Also the size of the battery is probably designed to also work with their even larger 3600LFP(?) coming out later. They still could have done a better job with the stacking though like you said.
As for the 100W input, I was of the understanding that was more for car charging and by having a different connector you can’t accidentally plug it in to the high input port and fry your car’s 12V circuit or blow a fuse.
On my E600LFP that has the same two inputs with the same voltage ranges printed (albeit lower total power) I was able to charge with a single 200W 18V panel in the 400W port. Pecron’s solar chargers take up to 30 seconds to kick in so you have to wait sometimes. This unit may be different though since it is 48V internally.
Thank you for spotting that current drop when charging above 80V. I was thinking of getting this to run my office off grid and overpanelling slightly with 4 200W panels in series. Many panels have slightly more than 20Vmax so this is something to be wary of.
Bit of a shame about the inverter idle consumption for using it all the time as a solar UPS. Hopefully now they have an app and updatable firmware that can be improved along with adjustable max charging rate and also adjustable charge and discharge limits for prolonging the life of the battery.
Thank you for the great reviews! Just added one of these to our Ecoflow collection, on your HOBOE1500LFP discount.
Greetings from the coast of SoCal😎
Great review - thank you! I am VERY happy with the Pecron E1500LFP! FYI: To charge the battery more "gently" using AC 120V at a rate slower than the default 1400W, I plug it into the wall & turn on the AC mode, then plug in a small heater. The E1500LFP will automatically turn on the "UPS mode" and will only send the battery approximately 1600W "minus" however much the heater is using. In my case 1600W - 700W = 900W charging. Something safer than a heater is desirable (perhaps a TV)...YMMV
Thank you for reviewing this.
I just found what I'm replacing my Bluetti Boat Anchors with. Thanks HOBO!!!
"Bluetti Boat Anchors" 😂🤣😂 💯🔥
This was down to $699 up to June 1st. Now the price is $759, which is still an awesome deal.
$799 on Amazon with a $200 coupon...8-26-2024
if you do enough digging they are coming out with a 3600 wh version. I have 2 pecron 2000 lfp, 1 600lfp and the whole river 2 line. These pecrons do the job as good as any of the big names. Plus the AC efficiency on the 2000lfp models are at or above 90%
Where did you read about this?
This is almost perfect for me except I'm hoping they add DC-DC charging at a faster rate than the lighter plug.
Or a second MPPT input that takes more than 100 Watts so that I can run Panels on one side and an external DC to DC charger on the second port.
I 2nd this. Where did you hear about the 3600wh version?
This is the second mentioned of this I've seen and asked the same question but no replies. Google didn't produce any results either @@that1guyscamaro
Looks impressive. Only nits are lack of Bluetooth for the app support, and I would like to see another 100w usb-c. But overall very impressed. Pecron has just entered the vendors I look at when getting my next unit.
I wish I could be a Hobo instead of a reprobate. I bought this unit based on your review. Received it on Tuesday. Thx.❤ Got the 5 yr. warranty!!
The upcoming E3600LFP looks like a beast. 92lbs. dual 1200W MPPT charge controllers, RV TT 30A 120V output, 3072 wat hours of capacity, 3500W inverter and supports the same EP2000 external batteries as the E1500LFP.
Amazingly comprehensive. Thanks!
Man whips out his Pecron, uses his Jackery, and causes an Ecoflow. Oupes!
Very nice. 😂
Hat tip.
I.say great Scott . This would be cheaper than buying another eb300 battery. Thank HT hope your doing well. Great review ❤
Great news from pecron about this model :)
P.S. Pecron has just extended the warranty of the e1500lfp (even if you already bought it) to 5 YEARS !!!!!
P.P.S. Make sure that you get over to the website and register your system today and extend your warranty from 2 years to 5 years !!!!!
P.P.P.S. :)
Where are you seeing this? I'm looking at their website in the US and it says 1+1 under warrranty
Oh nm, I see it now at the bottom of the page. Boy, they're not exactly highlighting that!
@@davidp6839 That is why we are spreading the message :)
@@RamblinBobReviews yeah thanks! Think that's pudding me over the edge to this unit from a bluetti and anker that are similar but this one seems to beat out with ports
I've had 2000 lfp in the bed of my Jeep Gladiator for the past year and a half. Charge it from the vehicle alternator via a Renogy 2000w inverter. It Powers my off-grid trailer, cooking, lights, entertainment, and Starlink. It hasn't missed a beat but the charging brick is starting to fail - very dusty environment. It occasionally stops charging - I disconnect it - try to blow it out - bang it around a bit (yeah bang it around and beat on it) and it starts again. I was going to expand with the 3000 but would still be dependent on the charging brick - so after watching this review I just bought the 1500 lfp instead (used the Hobo discount code and paid a total of $854.00. It will give less total storage but give me much faster charging at 1400w and also give me total redundancy in the event of failure of the 2000 or 1500, I wish there was a way to charge the 2000 from the1500 to be able to eliminate the weak link of the charging brick,
I'm so grateful for your help on all your videos I just hope you see my message and understand.
Hi I'm Anthony and I live in subsidize housing with my fiance and son, I use a ebike to get around from work and home groceries etc but I recently got out of the hospital because of a hit and run from a lady that wasn't paying attention to me in the bike lane. The police calls it a blind spot were I was hit and there was nothing they could do, now I owe my hospital $2,000 in bills and my bike got ruined from this mess. I don't ask for hand outs just someone to please understand my situation and acknowledge my unfortunate experience and have a kind heart.
Thank you for reading.
If Goldilocks was trying out various power stations, looking for one that was JUST the right size, weight and capability, this latest offering from Pecron would be the one she ultimately chose. It's "enough" without being too much, and this introductory price makes it the very best value in portable stations, at least for the next few days. One of the best videos you've done, as well.
Please consider adding repair details to your 'solar generator' reviews. Specifically, where does it get sent for repairs? And who pays for shipping? Both ways? One way?
Another great review! I’ve learned SO much from your channel the last few years. Thanks much!
“Get your Pecron” 😂😂. That should definitely be their motto!
Curious re ups capability....
Let's say the power goes out and the ups kicks in perfectly
But the power is out for a while and it runs out of power and shuts down
When grid power kicks back in, what mode does start in (does it start?)?
Does it pass through power and charge up?
If the power goes back out, is it still running in ups mode? Or do your devices lose power the second time around
Bore Da (Good Morning in Welsh) from South Wales UK x
The major flaw in this is the two solar charge ports. If you have two 12V 200W panels you can’t get maximum benefit from your panels. If you run them in series your at 24V which isn’t enough to trigger the minimum required 32V for the main charge controller. So you need to use the smaller port which is limited to 100W.
You have to make sure you match your panels to this. Not the other way around.
Just get a extra panel. You won’t even get the max 400w of charging with 2 200 watts because of efficiency. 3 will max out the charging capabilities even on a slight cloudy day.
I currently have 2 100 watt panels in series connected and it is charging on a somewhat overcast day at 100 watts
As of May 30, 2024 it's $699 on their web site and the warrantee have been increased to 5 years!
Good Mornin' Professor! Thanks buddy😎👍
I fancied a Jackery but settled on pulling an Anker off the shelves. But maybe I could have felt somebody's Pecron.
Great review. Thank you. Maybe I missed it, will both MPPT controllers charge at the same time (e.g. small and larger array)?
The battery is out of proportion because I think its more focused on them releasing a 3600 w station. At least thats the rumor. Thats the one I will be interested in. It's good to see the big boys getting some competition. Great review as always.
Can you point me to where you read about the 3600?
Sold . Now I need to step up and get one .
I got the e3000 regular lithium works perfect in my rv all I need
IMHO this is the clear winner over similar sized Jackery, Ecoflow, and Bluetti
Any reason I can't series connect 3 100ah lifepo4 batteries to the dc solar input on the solar generator?
Hello Professor Hobo. 93% wow, that's awesome . ❤
Hobotech, can you hook two units together? Seems on sale it makes more sense than buying just the spare battery, thanks
Thanx Tom ! TAKE CARE..
Keep your PECR ON up 😉
Looks great! and definitely best bang for the buck but one thing missing to be the perfect option for a van conversion/RV is
DC-DC charging and I'm not talking about the turtle speed lighter plug, which I know is limited more by the vehicle lighter amperage.
Even if they offered it as an additional external accessory with a property connection that would make it the perfect power station
What are your thoughts on using boost converter charger to simulate solar charging.
Or would it be better off using an AC 1000W converter from the vehicle lighter/ separate direct 12 volt connection to battery into to the AC input.
With an ON/OFF switch so you can charge while your engine is running and driving long distances.
Taking advantage of dual charging and leaving the 700 Watt solar plug available for a few solar panels?
Their current 3000 is good and have dual 600 Solar inputs but no Anderson plug.
Great point - I would love to see a solution for this.
Two options: Charge from AC inverter connected to battery or use a high wattage boost converter 12v-48v into the solar input.
No one has done it yet and I think the main reason is liability. They don't want people blaming the power station for issues with the car electrical system.
That's why an official external DC-DC charger that plugs into one of their aircraft connectors is the ideal solution and meets people half way who don't want to build a system but would be able to hook up a car amp.
DC-DC chargers can be hard on alternators if you don't have a surplus of amperage or if you have a smart alternator you kind of have to know what you're doing and ,I guess they assume that at that point you might as well just build your own system and there's no market for it.
I know I'm capable of building my own but I like the idea of a portable power station because I work remotely and out of coffee shops, share spaces, etc
I want to be able to take it out of my van put it on a rolling kart/bag and roll it in with me and charge it indoors while I'm working at a coffee shop.
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I saw the Victron Orion converter with temperature control.
Between a booster and converter is one more efficient than the other. @@HOBOTECH
@@mannyst1nvan thanks!!
Always enjoy your reviews. Just wish TH-cam would allow notifications on your channel...
You have to un-ring the bell then reset it to all notifications. Common issue.
@@HOBOTECHthanks for the tip, it worked!
Prof. Hobo what is the name of the music you use on the battery capacity? Kinda sounds like some music from old tv shows.
If you wire your home heater with a plug and switch you can get around 6 hours of heat during an outage from this unit.
During your review's Noise test into the Guitar Amp, you demonstrated minimal power noise.
Since you mentioned HAM radio, I am wondering how clean is the 12 Volt 30 Amp DC output, given that many HAM radios take 12-13.8 VDC power, and transmit using 20 or so AMPs. Also, does the 12 VDC 30A output have any short circuit or fuse protection built in ??
Great review, as always. When is the release date as this shows PREORDER.
I was seriously considering pre-ordering this from Pecron, but 478.35 dollars for shipping to Canada is ridiculous. Delivery with 2x200W solar panels is even worse at 499 dollars. Especially when comparing to the free shipping offered by competitors like Bluetti.
Great Review Hobo! I wonder if Pecron fixed the cooling fan issue the 2000lfp units seem to exhibit.....
Professor, that's great video. Look forward to your next video.
Wow.
Looks like they thought, or tried to, of everything.
Finally a decent solar input, 700 watt is very good input especially in a vehicle.
Love the xt60 360 watt output. Was at first disappointment at the low wattage but since you can also use the RV plug for your 12v load center, it’s fine for an extra outlet.
I have 3 improvements to suggest
1) put all the plugs, outlets and buttons on the front, except that battery connection cable perhaps. If I want to use this in my RV/Van, I don’t want cables to be sticking out everywhere. My current Delta has cables on 3 sides, you can’t put that device in any corner.
2) a dc and ac timer. I know it turns off under no load after a few hours. But when does it turn on? My Delta turns on when I get solar in the morning, but I have to turn on ac and dc manually. With a timer I could turn it off at 10pm and on at 8am, avoiding phantom drain. Outputs could also turn on when solar charging. There are a few ménagement options.
3)
4) app is wireless? Isn’t Bluetooth better?
5) dedicated laptop output. My MacBook used a 140 watt brick, but a usb-c plug to actually supply the power. So a 150 watt usb-c outlet for high powered laptops would be so sweet. No AC needed.
6) if not already possible, add a 200 watt mppt to the expansion battery.
7) redesign the batteries plug location. Smack in the middle will allow more mounting/placement options.
8) build a special unit inside one of those karaoke stations, with lights and all, turning it into the entertainment center. I’d buy that for the fancy lights alone…
They solar input will be tough for folks like me that just have a hodgepodge of different panels from 60W to 100W to 250W. To really get this thing charged in a day I’ll need to throw together a couple panels to meet the 32v minimum on the larger MPPT controller. I wonder why they designed the E1500LFP with this MPPT controller configuration? Otherwise great features and great price.
E1500LFP Solar Input:
DC5521: Voc 12V~18V / 100W Max /7A Max
GX16MF: Voc 32V~95V / 700W Max / 15A Max
Jasonoid actually saw that the 32v port accepted charge at 24v and the smaller 12-18v accepted 24v as well. So take that for what you will.
@@dfgatorfan Yes the smaller 5521 100w charging port with a 12-18v range does actually support up to 24v. The manual says 12-18v (VOC less that 25v). I emailed Pecron and they confirmed this. Not sure why it is only labeled as 12-18.
price is now $570 , no tax and free ship to CA,,, very tempted
I'm working hard to figure out which portable power pack to buy during these Black Friday (and Hobotech) deals, but I'm failing due to my lack of understanding of the power translations. I've been on the fence between an EcoFlow unit and an Anker unit. (I've heard lots of negative feedback on Bluetti's customer service, unfortunately.) But now I'm thinking this Pecron may be the best bang for my buck. Mostly, I'll want to be able to power a BougeRV fridge (bought through Hobotech) on the road for a few days, and a sump pump at my home. If I can run a space heater in a pinch, all the better. I feel like this video just told me I can do all of those things with this Pecron unit. Am I right or wrong?
I can’t help you with all the specifics but I can tell you my 600 I bought as a gift then unboxed and kept 😂 will run a space heater in my house, the only think it has not run is a pampered chef air fryer. I am considering getting this unit
Hi I was wondering if Pecron supports EV charging where we could charge it at like a level 2 tesla charger with like a Tesla tap?
This I think is competitive with the EcoFlow that I got and I think it may be better.
Super review. Thanks for sharing
I really enjoyed this video, It is really tempting!!!
Will this unit auto restart charging and / or AC output the next day if left on solar charging overnight? My Anker will not as most other units.
That's a great question - I would like to know the answer
If you kill it you have to manually push the button for AC.
@@HOBOTECH thank you! Does that mean that solar charging will restart when the sun comes up?
2 solar input valuable. You can use portable ehen on the road.
I pre ordered way back in sept, still no power station! They said it’d be mid Oct, now telling me mid November, 😠
It's nice you can hook up more then one extra battery up to it.
This unit looks great if it is reliable and customer service is good. What is the discharge rate of the battery over time with the unit turned completely off. My Anker 757 loses approximately 1% per day when turned off which I find borderline unacceptable. This would be an importance piece of data when consider storing long term.
Greetings, I would like to know which model is better, PECRON E1500LFP 48v or PECRON E2000LFP 24v? based on your experience with these products
What would be the ideal solar panel setup for this system?
comment on the battery expansion cable. I saw another video where they have the battery on the bottom. They had the cable rotated toward the front not toward the back like you have. That is the cable is bowed toward you not away from you. Not sure if this will work in your case. Their cable could be designed differently.
Do you know if you need to fully charge before first use out of the box or does it not really matter? Thanks for the video!
You always fully charge any battery before first use.
It looks like you can turn the expansion battery vertical so their logo faces up, is looks like the height of the expa sion is the same size as the depth of the main unit...yeah, it will be top heavy and want to fall over
That's going to be the selling point. I hope Others catch on with that cable
New subscriber here. Looking best option for van conversion and like the 12v-30amp output o connect to 12V fuse panel. What is the difference between this 1500LFP 30amp port and the Ecoflow pro Anderson port?
i might buy one looks very interresting i am in Canada
Hey Hobo Tech...I purchased the LFP 2000 in black on black earlier this year 🎉❤...im still building up my 1600 watts of solar input..I did buy the 3 year extra warranty from Amazon...is this unit better? I see the new model has an application now.❣️If any issues ..i think..i can return it or have it replaced..Great review Brother😢 💪🇺🇸🙏
will the 12v cig outlet maintain voltage as the battery goes down below half? Great job as always, Thanks for all You do
Can this unit handle Series/parallel 93volts (VOC) 77volts (normal) @ 17.2amps (8.6amps x 2) . Over paneling about 1200w to feed a steady 700w at peak hrs of the day. I assume the unit will reduce to advertised 15amp input? Thanks for your time.
I just bought the pecron e1500 on Amazon on cyber Monday $899 with a $400 coupon making the unit $499
Are the fans too loud when charging it from a wall outlet? Can I change the watt settings when charging from wall outlet? 1400 watts seem to aggressive to the batteries.
How do you rate this Perron generator compared to the Delta 2 Max generator? If price was not a factor?
Pecron hands down.
The extra battery with ecoflow has no bells and whistles and is completely useless without the main unit.
D2Max is a better product but more than twice the money. I wouldn't say it's twice as good.
Are they saying what the time frame is for shipment on the pre-order?
Awesome. Besides the warranty it's right up there, certainly value-wise. Glad I learned about the power drop from maxing out the solar input voltage. Is an 80-85% rule of thumb with the voltage useful for most stations with high solar input?
Usually higher voltage the better. This is a rare exception.
@@HOBOTECHDouble-fisted 👍👍
wanted to use dc dc to delta 2 and now i just use second paralel panel and let the 8 amps flow!!! 33v isnt much but isnt nothing
Please use this and do an update- Most everything electronic I've bought since 2020 has had a very short life. span.
Hi Professor Hobo, little question, I would want to connect a AC fridge permanently to a Pecron E1500LFP. I would connect 2, 300 watt panels to it in series. the AC fridge uses roughly between 300 and 550 wh a day. If I understand correctly, I would need to also take into account the 1044 wh of the AC idle usage a day and add this to the consomption of the fridge right? That would mean roughly between 1344 to 1599 wh per day, which on a sunny day would work with the panels probably but it the winter it wouldn't. So next to the solar input I would also need to use the AC input at all times. Is it possible to use solar input and AC input at the same time, and connect a fridge to it (24/7)? thanks for you help! I'm still new at this:)
Great informative video presentation thought I would get one only to find there is no UK 240v version😔
My car has 400 watt inverter to AC. Can you set this one to only pull 400 watt input on the AC in the app or on the unit? Currently have AC180 that when in silent mode pulls 287 watts.
Their website is showing that the Solar Input for 100W is actually the DC5521 and can handle anywhere from 12~25V. I was initially worried my 24V Bluetti 120 panel was unusable because it was outside the range specified in the video. 7:50
I use a harbor freight panel ( 100 watt 20 volt ) on my DC5521 input on my 2000LFP. I talked to there tech support to see if it would cause harm since the max says 18 volts and they said it is fine.
Didn't go by the website went by what it says on the product. It's a 5525 input 12-18v. Go over that at your own risk.
@BVHVVH
2 minutes ago
Professor... I have two E1500LFP's both with two cascaded batteries. When I am backfeeding one, 120VAC phase/bus bar of my main breaker panel with either Pecron, most all of my screw-in base and 4' tube style LED lights significantly flicker. I have a Breville countertop over that also sounds very labored when running off the Pecron. When I run any led lights when the oven is on, the flickering triples. Both units are outputting 59.9 Hz, 120 +- Volts and 2 - 2.5 THD, more or less identical to my grid power. I just picked up a DeltaPro Ultra and have backfed the main breaker panel with it's 240 VAC output and I get zero flickering and no oven issues. It's not an inductive feedback or radio interference issue. Have you run a phase of your house from your E1500 and experienced any of this?
3:26 ... I didn't know that we were gonna whip out our Pecrons. I would have dressed a little nicer.
I'm excited to see where prices go in 2024, already this unit is $100 cheaper than when you reviewed it. To think prices will go back up in the short term isn't realistic in my opinion as China has to slash prices because of a limited market, stiff competition and thier weak economy.
Picked this up yesterday, it was on sale for 599$.
Good morning from Godley Texas
Hello. New subscriber here.
Do you think it is a coincidence that in order to reach max watt input for solar charging you had to be somewhat within the Vmp and Voc range for two Pecron PV300 solar panels set up in series? You received the best wattage inputs in the 65-80 volt range.
Can you review the PECRON 500W Car Charger DC1242-500 for Cars, RVs, Trucks, etc. × 1