Earl Spencer's abuse allegations 'explain a lot' about the Spencer family

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  • ‘This explains a lot about the Spencer family itself…it was a complicated family.’
    Former Royal Correspondent at the Sun, Charles Rae says he was ‘very shocked’ when he was made aware of Earl Spencer’s sexual abuse allegations.
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  • @Polopony
    @Polopony 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +200

    Why do these presenters (who are also allegedly journalists) do their research before presenting these stories? The Spencer children's mother Frances didn't just 'leave' them. She fled physical and emotional abuse from her husband, and then was prevented by her husband, in revenge, from having access to them. As a woman, Anne Diamond might have bothered to find that out first before presenting her as a negligent mother - it's not hard.

    • @cheds1
      @cheds1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      They are just like cardboard cutouts. If they are good at reading an autocue . Your hired. No thought process needed.

    • @williamthomas2830
      @williamthomas2830 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Ann again.

    • @suedavey8711
      @suedavey8711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@williamthomas2830 Time she retired.

    • @francesmeyer8478
      @francesmeyer8478 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      "Journalists" don't seem to do much research any more. I really don't think that these tv hosts are "journalists". They are " Television Personalities ". This is true in America and Britain. Our Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow would be horrified!🇺🇸

    • @LRabbit3496
      @LRabbit3496 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I’m always shocked that I know more than they do and I’m in the US!

  • @LucyLocketful
    @LucyLocketful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +494

    Their mother didn't "leave" them - she fought tooth and nail to keep them. Johnny, Viscount Althorp, abused her and she had to leave him. It was her mother, Lady Fermoy, who betrayed her terribly, by taking the father's side - because he was "in with the Royal Family" and Lady Fermoy wanted to keep it that way for herself, too. The court case was a set-up because Johnny was part of the Establishment. Much like the court case where Judge Warby believed/pretended to believe Meghan's lies and, in my view (and that of many, many others), justice certainly wasn't served.

    • @jackieporter5323
      @jackieporter5323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

      Absolutely true, Frances (Diana’s mother ) was treated so badly. Her children grew up believing that she didn’t care for them when nothing can be further from the truth, she was prevented from contact by the bully who was his father. The grandmother of the future King of England is buried in a forlorn plot in a cemetery in the west of Scotland. She was a lovely, gentle lady who deserved better.

    • @LucyLocketful
      @LucyLocketful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@jackieporter5323 Well said.

    • @user-xc1fo2sh1c
      @user-xc1fo2sh1c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Sorry, I typed my comment not realising that you have said exactly the same, but much more clearly than I did. Also the acorn didn't fall far from the tree, because Earl Spencer treated his first Wife appallingly and when Princess Diana asked if she could stay at Althorpe, he refused her request. It is also strange that he did not attend his own Daughter's wedding. A well and truly screwed up family. I am surprised that Presenters do not do at least some research before coming out with falsehoods.

    • @christinepizzi6197
      @christinepizzi6197 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Is that why he's on his third wife too?? Scared?

    • @privatepracticepsychologis4115
      @privatepracticepsychologis4115 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Abandonment does not have to be physical … emotional abandonment is devastating

  • @deniseburnside
    @deniseburnside 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    I was sexually abused from the age of 8 years old. It changed me. I still grieve that little girl.

    • @TS-om3ee
      @TS-om3ee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I'm sorry you had to go through that.

    • @CoolGrammaG
      @CoolGrammaG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I’m sorry

    • @deniseburnside
      @deniseburnside 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TS-om3ee - thank you kindly.

    • @deniseburnside
      @deniseburnside 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CoolGrammaG - thank you so much.

    • @annarowe8459
      @annarowe8459 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😪🙏❤️‍🩹

  • @user-xc1fo2sh1c
    @user-xc1fo2sh1c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +257

    No wonder so many of the so called upper classes who attended these boarding schools are so screwed up and unable to live normal lives and have normal relationships. Their mother did not leave them from choice. His Mother was physically abused by his Father, she wanted to keep her chldren, she even went to court to try and get custody. Her own Mother went to Court and said that the children should go to their Father. It was not the Mother's fault.

    • @personalcheeses8073
      @personalcheeses8073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      State schools mess kids up too

    • @suedavey8711
      @suedavey8711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Those were the days when if a woman had to leave her husband for any reason, the husband kept the children. That was the law. I remember it.

    • @user-xc1fo2sh1c
      @user-xc1fo2sh1c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, state schools do not mess kids up, broken homes, parents who take drugs and put their own pleasure before that of their children screw many state school kids lives up. @@personalcheeses8073

    • @rachmunshine9474
      @rachmunshine9474 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@suedavey8711 I know I am only ha ha 52 as of a few days ago so nearly 51, 😂but as far back as I can remember before so much joint custody unless there was irrefutable proof that the mother was incapable or abusive for the most part mothers got custody and fathers got visitation. But I’m sure there were times this was not the outcome if the father was wealthy/high profile. Certainly I would not be surprised if the nobility and not just actually aristocrats but perhaps politicians and other again, wealthy/high profile (and or) all things being equal probably got to keep the kids with the big house. And she still would’ve gotten custody because he was so abusive to her. Diana and her brother Charles, who was even younger (a healthy baby boy so he was done with her after everything she went through to get him that boy and even though it’s the man who decides genetically speaking the sex of the baby) anyway, sorry for the tangent, but yeah, Diana and her siblings remember hearing the screaming matches and I think I recall something about her mother being slapped. But he was definitely verbally abusive and just not nice to her. But her own mother (Diana’s grandmother, who was friendly with the Queen Mother, not Diana’s mother) lied to the judge. 🤦🏻‍♀️ allegedly. Maybe it’s safer to say she had temporary amnesia that day. Re their Dad tho- Can you imagine fighting for custody just to send your kids off to school? Elementary school??? or taught at home by a tutor, and cared for by a nanny? Then school to learn how to hire a good staff and have dinner parties? Wtf 🤦🏻‍♀️
      I really do hate speaking ill of the dead and I did not even know them… but I’m very happy that Lady Diana gave her kids a solid start in terms of the unreserved unconditional and cuddly love from day one. When they were little so did Charles. But until her death she was always hugging them and just letting them feel the love. So despite her own childhood, or maybe because of it - (no, he didn’t have a perfect perfect childhood obviously due to his own parents issues with each other; although thanks to nannies they really didn’t witness fighting much as see tears after or sense tension … certainly in the early days, they were actually protected from a lot of the fighting) William was very primed and ready and hopeful for a happy, loving family of his own. And he knew to take his time and make sure it was the right lady for him. And he, for her, titles aside. (which I think is actually why he was so upset that Harry did not learn this from their parents marriage like he did!!!) It’s a good thing that he fell in love with Catherine first because I’m sure (just from bits I read years ago about him visiting her family and how he was pitching in in the kitchen just like everyone else etc.) he’s fallen in love with her family. Before they were married or had kids of their own and certainly after too but I think he really enjoyed the big family dynamic minus the staff, etc. lurking even if they’re just doing their jobs on the next level of the home.
      I feel like after I hit send I’m gonna be really embarrassed when I see how long this is … because I feel like I’ve been dictating this for a while. (and trying to proofread as I go, I end up adding more in between) so anyway, I guess my point is it’s amazing how despite their own individual atypical childhoods, that Charles and Diana raised a man who is smart and learns from history and has done a beautiful job in my opinion. And I guess he chose well for a wife -and not even just because the love 💕 they have is palpable when they glance at each other. ❤ but because she is as regal as he is never putting a foot wrong and keeping to the late Queen’s never explain, never complain mantra, and has the lived experience of a relatively typical person in British society. By the time they met her parents company had taken off pretty well, and they were comfortable, but before she was born, her mom was a stewardess and her dad worked at the airport in I forget which role. Carole Middleton worked hard (and I read the whole family pitched in as the kids got older when they were needed and able to) to make the family business a success until Covid anyway. They are definitely not the only business owners, or former owners in that boat.
      Very sad one brother learned from history and kept the best parts of each of his parents going while the other I have no idea what is wrong with him. It’s just very sad. I will never understand. I know he was anxious to stop being the third wheel and have his own family. I believe he loved playing with his niece and nephew. Poor Louis won’t remember him, except for any photos and occasional mention he may hear from this relative or that at holidays. But he never got to play with him and know him. The Harry that appears now tho it’s no loss, sadly again. OK too many weeks of rain with like one day of sunshine (six days ago already) has me bored and sorry to go on. I can only see four or so partial lines of a sentence on this phone, so I’m really afraid to look at this. I do have attention deficit issues, and it can be hard for me to summarize. 😂 but if anyone made it down here Hope there was something informative you hadn’t heard about before or something? 😂

    • @rachmunshine9474
      @rachmunshine9474 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Regarding the first part, I’m talking about in America.

  • @user-cp8tw7qi4j
    @user-cp8tw7qi4j 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

    Boarding schools, Catholic priests/ ministers, prison, residential schools. Positions of power are dreadful. No protection for children.

    • @Nino-vt9bt
      @Nino-vt9bt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Church of England , Muslims, J W , Doctor, nurses, police. Evil get s every where

    • @barbararice6650
      @barbararice6650 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pakistan grooming gangs and the BBC 😐

    • @clivejames5058
      @clivejames5058 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      don't forget Baptist ministers, Salvation Army and Jehovah Witnesses - all have been accused of sexual abuse.

    • @jillosler9353
      @jillosler9353 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It happens in the 'poor areas' too! Children have always been abused; in fact the Victorians RAISED the age of sexual content to 16 years because of the amount of child prostitution. Children in Secondary Modern schools were abused as well as 'privileged' children.

    • @marlineemmal6458
      @marlineemmal6458 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      HOSPITALS

  • @calamityjane4331
    @calamityjane4331 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I commend Charles Spencer for having the courage to speak up about this.

  • @susanodonohue5661
    @susanodonohue5661 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    I love Prince Edward, such a good humble person, no airs and graces, no arrogance or sense of entitlement, hes always kept a low profile, so different to charles and andrew. Sophie and the children are the same, he chose the right woman.

    • @EthanLomas
      @EthanLomas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your homophobia is shocking! Please recant this nonsense

    • @LaPinturaBella
      @LaPinturaBella 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@EthanLomas Where did you see any homophobia in the comment you replied to???

    • @kelsogirl562
      @kelsogirl562 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree - they're a lovely couple who appear to be very well suited but even the lovely Sophie had difficulties when she first joined the RF. She had her own PR company (I think it was) when she married Edward and, as it was hinted that she'd used her royal status in the performance of running her company, she was obliged to shut the company down. So, none of them have had an easy ride and have had to conform one way or another. That's the price of marrying into the RF.

  • @hussainamina
    @hussainamina 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +288

    THEIR MUM DIDN’T “LEAVE” THEM!
    She was stopped from taking them.
    Big difference!
    Big mistake to make on national tv.
    Irresponsible.

    • @user-xs9fp3ic9y
      @user-xs9fp3ic9y 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Yes I agree. Ann should have done the research before making that statement.

    • @user-xc1fo2sh1c
      @user-xc1fo2sh1c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Yes and someone who has been around for as long as Ann Diamond has should know better.

    • @elizabethbesco4758
      @elizabethbesco4758 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Remember Raine ransacked historically priceless items from the Spencer children and sold them to line her own pockets.

    • @user-xc1fo2sh1c
      @user-xc1fo2sh1c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is what we were lead to believe, but it turned out that there was no money and money was needed desperately for Althorp. The only way to raise that money was to sell off the heirlooms. Personally, I do not believe she sold off the family heirlooms to fritter away on herself. Unlike the present Duchess of Sussex.@@elizabethbesco4758

    • @privatename4786
      @privatename4786 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She didn’t try to leave with her children and her husband stop her. She left without them to be with her lover and then later wanted them to come with her. This is when her husband wouldn’t give her access. As a result the children were damaged by both parents.

  • @debbiehawkes8028
    @debbiehawkes8028 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    Didn’t the father win custody of the children with the help of the grandmother( Diana’s mother’s mother?(

    • @LucyLocketful
      @LucyLocketful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Yes. Frances' mother Lady Fermoy betrayed her terribly, for social position.

    • @yana1955
      @yana1955 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lady Colin Campbell hinted that Lady Fermoy was abused by her own husband. That she would expect her daughter to tolerate the same dynamic makes her evil.

    • @personalcheeses8073
      @personalcheeses8073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LucyLocketfulWell his mother didn’t do a great job did she. He was with her when he was buying sex

    • @williamthomas2830
      @williamthomas2830 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Correct…but you wouldn’t expect her to do her research.

    • @sweethearteu
      @sweethearteu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well yes. - but that's Standard for the Upper Classes of this Country.
      No "bolting" Wife EVER got the children. They have the Judges
      in their pocket; the Old Boys
      Network then was even stronger
      than it is now obvs 🙏🇬🇧

  • @marinabowman8177
    @marinabowman8177 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    You never know what goes on behind closed doors!!

    • @anonUK
      @anonUK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We do now.

    • @francescostello1377
      @francescostello1377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Indeed, might want to do some research on the Royal family!

    • @EthanLomas
      @EthanLomas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes we all know. Boys are at it with each other. Everyone knows it

    • @EthanLomas
      @EthanLomas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🍑🕳💧💧💧🌈

    • @karate4348
      @karate4348 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More often we now do know because children including those who were silenced, then grew up to speak out remember and speak out...because the evidence riddles our minds, bodies, families, societies.
      We know more and more about what goes on behind closed doors,
      In 'normal, respectable families, at sick parties, rituals, on camera and in front of sick audiences.

  • @sambo9796
    @sambo9796 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Proud of the Earle of Spencer speaking out ❤ Edward and Sophie far outweigh H and M. Sophie is beautiful 😻

    • @EthanLomas
      @EthanLomas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s not an aristocrat. Just rich. His name is Earl

    • @elizabethbesco4758
      @elizabethbesco4758 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Please check Spencer historical lineage before making incorrect comments.

    • @Prince_of_Saint_Domingue
      @Prince_of_Saint_Domingue 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@EthanLomas it's Earl Spencer this is his title his name is Charles Spencer. Earl is a title.

    • @rosiehunt8491
      @rosiehunt8491 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@EthanLomasHis name is not Earl, it's Charles. Earl is his title.

    • @EthanLomas
      @EthanLomas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, I didn’t know that@@rosiehunt8491

  • @Sarah-uu5eh
    @Sarah-uu5eh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Thank you Anne. Wealth does not prevent abuse. Many children of wealth families get overlooked.

  • @priscillaroberts7945
    @priscillaroberts7945 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Isn't it strange how these people bleat about how awful it was still send their own children to these places?

    • @Polopony
      @Polopony 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. But that's exactly how what H called 'genetic pain' gets passed down the generations, isn't it. People dish out to their children what their parents dished out to them, usually without even realising what they are doing.

    • @EthanLomas
      @EthanLomas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its character building

    • @priscillaroberts7945
      @priscillaroberts7945 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@EthanLomas most of them nasty characters imo.

    • @garycairns-gf1pj
      @garycairns-gf1pj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Snobs

  • @rosaberrios9238
    @rosaberrios9238 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    This reporter should apologized. His mother DID NOT abandon him or Diana; they were taken away from her by an abusing husband.

    • @user-ro2vb8by7u
      @user-ro2vb8by7u 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She left them for another man!

    • @user-xc1fo2sh1c
      @user-xc1fo2sh1c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She left a vile husband who was beating the crap out of her and she left him believing that she could take her children with her He, along with her own Mother insured that the children would be removed from the Mother. @@user-ro2vb8by7u

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And moved them to the attic to live in a very small rooms. Diana’s father was a horrible man and his wife as well. Diana wasn’t found of her. The mother was abused badly by him, Diana witnessed him slapping her in the face. It is horrible for a child.

    • @llamamama2910
      @llamamama2910 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After being abused by her husband and couldn’t take them-they belonged to the estate

  • @pamelaschutz1248
    @pamelaschutz1248 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Love the pictures of the Duke of Edinburgh and his pets, and have been thinking for a while that he ought to be Order of the Thistle, carrying his late father's title! So sad about the Spencers. Kind of explains Charles Spencer's speech at Diana's funeral, which I always thought was very melodramatic. All those kids were hurt. By the system which shapes and controls them. Sad. Glad Queen Camilla speaks out about this sort of thing. She's a good woman.

    • @katiehill619
      @katiehill619 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think the Spencer kids were deeply traumatized by two very dysfunctional parents, and later even worse step-parents. So awful to hear that the Earl's school environment added to the trauma. That kind of private school environment seems to be rife with this kind of abuse, bullying and isolation.

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@katiehill619
      The children/pre-teens/teens
      at a boarding school are totally
      at the mercy of the school, it's
      management, it's teachers and
      it's staff. Not to mention the
      bullies and opportunists within
      the student body!

    • @musicandbooklover-p2o
      @musicandbooklover-p2o 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thing is Charles Spencer is himself an abusive husband (or was to the first two wives and at least one girlfriend). But in fairness if you look back at the family history there is a very long history of BOTH MEN AND WOMEN abusing their spouses and children, going back a couple of centuries at least.

    • @musicandbooklover-p2o
      @musicandbooklover-p2o 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@katiehill619 What was wrong with Raine, apart from the fact she tried to befriend the youngest two, Diana tried to kill her and Charles was resentful that she did everything she could to save the Althorp Estate rather than allowing him to waste the money on himself (though he has more recently admitted that he was wrong and that it was only thanks to Raine he actually even had an state to inherit which is something at least).

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@musicandbooklover-p2o
      Exactly!

  • @nathalieisbister124
    @nathalieisbister124 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I was brought to tears hearing Earl Spencer this morning, what a brave and humble man. When he spoke about the little boy looking for parents heartbreaking. I hope and pray this will open the floodgates and all children will have a voice thanks to Charles Spencer hopefully he will heal some of the pain in his heart

  • @cathryneallen9257
    @cathryneallen9257 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Financially struggling families stay closer. They can’t afford nannies, boarding schools and trips abroad which distance children from parents.

    • @carlywright5127
      @carlywright5127 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When the parents backs are turned rich or poor does not matter. The children need listened to and the silencing has to stop. Many children have been abused even when I attended school, as has been everywhere opportunist abusers .

  • @WBCRO
    @WBCRO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    GBNews needs to correct the error stated on this video that Frances left her children. She wanted to take them with her but Johnnie Spencer blocked her. She was able to have little Diana and Charles for a few weekends but that was abruptly ended by Johnnie.

  • @deborahrobben7721
    @deborahrobben7721 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Their mother didn't leave them. Get your facts straight.

  • @aq5121
    @aq5121 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Everyone is “SHOCKED” but the Teaching Authorities stated that it was “NORMAL” so Teaching Authorities clearly aren’t shocked by it and by their comment that it was “normal” is an admission by them that there are MANY MORE CASES. Very concerning that School Authorities are endorsing themselves Preying by juveniles.

    • @kazaabitboll2026
      @kazaabitboll2026 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Normal? You man they didn’t say it was a sad criminal part of their past?

    • @pantameowmeow.s.1149
      @pantameowmeow.s.1149 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pedos go out and get jobs, join clubs... where children are. Teachers, sport coaches, priests... Love interests of mothers with children ...

  • @Polopony
    @Polopony 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +177

    What are the odds that H is going to jump on this bandwagon now, to amplify his victim status, given that he went to the same school as his uncle...

    • @personalcheeses8073
      @personalcheeses8073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Oh of course. He and Rachel are cooking up a new victimhood olympics book as we speak

    • @kendraadusei3760
      @kendraadusei3760 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      😂

    • @madmelwood3778
      @madmelwood3778 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Without a doubt however i doubt it will be well received

    • @willowtree9291
      @willowtree9291 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I don't think Harry went to Maidwell.

    • @francesmeyer8478
      @francesmeyer8478 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Could be.🇺🇸

  • @annabrowne1479
    @annabrowne1479 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Yes the mother didn't leave them she fought to keep the contact

  • @maureenmckenna5220
    @maureenmckenna5220 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Shocked at this? Abuse at British boarding schools has been talked about for decades. He’s just given voice to it.

  • @jeanjean2033
    @jeanjean2033 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Charles Spencer's mother was sent away she didn't go away she was sent away

  • @Daisy-tl2lh
    @Daisy-tl2lh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I went to boarding school age seven and was physically beaten by the headmistress who went into a furious rage ... that was more than sixty years ago I have never spoken about it to anyone including my parents because I was told by the headmistress she beat me because I deserved it ... I have never understood why I was sent to boarding school in the first place as I was an only child, I think my parents wanted to get on with their lives child free ...

    • @karate4348
      @karate4348 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Love to you and the little boy you were.

    • @audspod1
      @audspod1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am so sorry you had to endure this horrible treatment.

  • @thesisterhoodhub
    @thesisterhoodhub 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you Charles for being so courageous and speaking up about this heinous crime, this will help so many others to come forward, talk about it and get help to heal, especially the men!

  • @personalcheeses8073
    @personalcheeses8073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Hawwy will have to invent a bigger trauma now. Someone else can’t be a victim

    • @kelsogirl562
      @kelsogirl562 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is going to go against all the rubbish he's said, blaming the RF for the difficulties in his life when, in fact, a lot of the problems have clearly come from his mother's side of the family. And, as anyone who's old enough to remember Princess Diana knows, she wasn't without her mental difficulties.

  • @clivejames5058
    @clivejames5058 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Anne, I'm shocked. You know very well their mother left them because she could not take the abuse herself anymore. She fought like a bear to get custody of her children. You need to apologise, clarify and make good in your next broadcast.

  • @iamnotfooled
    @iamnotfooled 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    These so called journalists don’t have a single gray cell in their heads

    • @SpeccyMan
      @SpeccyMan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Grey cells prefer it when you spell them the correct English way.

  • @1949Matilda
    @1949Matilda 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    That behaviour was never, ever acceptable in my lifetime: I grew up in the 50s and 60s.
    His parents were obviously distant, and not people that he could rely on, or confide in. Most parents were strict in those days, but they were present in our lives. Explains a lot about Diana too. Very, very sad! 😢

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      At least Diana's brother Charles was intelligent, educated and finally able to sort his life out while Diana was rather dimwitted, failed out of school at 16, and took her frustrations out on others.

    • @musicandbooklover-p2o
      @musicandbooklover-p2o 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@abbatrouble So did her brother, on his first two wives, at least one girlfriend and possibly also at least one daughter. I remember stories in the media of a wife he put in hospital (no idea if he was punished though I do know the police were involved at the time) along with his baby daughter. He is NOT a nice person, leopards don't change their spots.

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder what the truth really is. I remember stories in the media that Diana was sweet, shy and a humanitarian but those proved false. I don't trust much of what the liars say about anyone anymore.@@musicandbooklover-p2o

    • @kelsogirl562
      @kelsogirl562 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@abbatrouble Well, you say that, but Charles has been responsible for several casualties of his behaviour along the way and now he too is making money out of it.

  • @ronnie7075
    @ronnie7075 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    We are all a product of our 0:02 childhood. Some had quite traumatic moments which colour our adult thoughts. It doesn't matter how rich or well connected our parents were, they can still have horrible childhoods.

  • @chrissierichards6802
    @chrissierichards6802 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Diana was disturbed also. Her father said Oh not another girl. She felt unwanted xx

  • @janetdunlop6132
    @janetdunlop6132 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

    People should look after their children instead of sending them to boarding school just because it would affect their lifestyle

    • @Maggy47
      @Maggy47 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Good comment 👍

    • @virginialangford6257
      @virginialangford6257 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Not at all…I went to a very nice boarding school…we had trips and sports and great education. My local public school would not have allowed me to learn horseback riding and the responsibility of doing all the looking after “ my” horse…I would not have spent a week touring The Louvre, have learned to be fluent in 2 languages other than my first language….boarding school was great, I am still friends after many years with fellow students and am comfortable with almost every situation I have ever found my self to be in…Boarding school is one of the ultimate gifts a caring parent can give their child

    • @personalcheeses8073
      @personalcheeses8073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@virginialangford6257Well said. Kids are abused and bullied in state schools too

    • @stephan6372
      @stephan6372 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Boarding school was then a way to strengthen character and make connections for the future and if possible learn from a very comprehensive education.

    • @tillyt4054
      @tillyt4054 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most abused children are abused by family members in the family home not by teachers at boarding schools

  • @gillianr-w8720
    @gillianr-w8720 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was 9yo when I was sent to boarding school and like him I thought I had also done something wrong.

  • @user-ri1ti6go7s
    @user-ri1ti6go7s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Really like Edward and Sophie.... Always have. Hardworking. Caring. Couple. Wishing happy birthday to Prince Edward.

  • @robertacolarette1594
    @robertacolarette1594 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I’ve heard that boarding school even without abuse is traumatizing for young children. It does seem that at one time abuse of that nature goes on in many boarding schools in many countries.

  • @vickyRoyalHistory
    @vickyRoyalHistory 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Has it occurred to Mr Rae, that there may be a very good Reason Earl Spencer hasn't named the Assistant Matron involved ? I'm not a Police Officer, a Lawyer or even an Accredited Journalist, but even I know that the Police would Frown upon an Alleged Victim Publicly naming a person that they would be investigating for Alleged Historical Sexual Abuse Crimes. It could possibly mean that even the Alleged Victim may face Charges as they have made it extremely difficult if not impossible for the Police to be able conduct an Investigation with any chance of success. It would also leave the Alleged Victim open to be the possibility of a Private Lawsuit by the Alleged Abuser. I find it incredible that a Journalist would even consider the Alleged Person should be Named under such Circumstances.

  • @Breeanna73
    @Breeanna73 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    He got lucky with Sophie xxx

  • @ginnyrisner4083
    @ginnyrisner4083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This seems to be a running theme in these boarding schools…😢

  • @pbohearn
    @pbohearn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It’s a trauma based initiation rite for the aristocracy/ ruling class. Breaking down ability to empathize makes cruelty easier.

    • @carlywright5127
      @carlywright5127 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The other side of the coin is they are unable to function in society. Drug dependent, asexual, alcohol dependent, dysfunctions. Emotional impairment and everything else. And it does not matter what sex you are. There is no differentiation the outcome. End result is country on downhill slide. And that is what some of these Instigators, I call them subverters can seek. Money spent on prisons, social upheaval and more.

  • @user-tn9iy3ey9q
    @user-tn9iy3ey9q 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Now retired, I've been a private children's nanny,(private families) ) and a residential child care officer in children homes. The only differences between both groups of children, both placed into care, through no fault of their own. One set of parents(voluntary) paid for their child to be put into care, and the other parent could not.(child removed ) Both groups of children if they sat down together now as adults,(upper class/working class) many would discover they have shared experiences of childhood traumas and have struggled with similar adult health issues.

  • @mr.halloween3371
    @mr.halloween3371 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My husband went to a boarding school and he was horribly physically and emotionally tortured by the Catholic priest who rn the boardih school.
    My husband is 41 and he still suffers from CPTSD an nightly nightmares. The school preyed on the children who were orphana(like my husband) and no one cared. The authorities are still finding bodies left in unmarked graves to this day.

    • @karate4348
      @karate4348 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So so sorry.

    • @mr.halloween3371
      @mr.halloween3371 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@karate4348 thank you so much for your compassion

  • @colinraines395
    @colinraines395 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Diana was damaged

    • @jacqui9176
      @jacqui9176 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Very

    • @moiraohara
      @moiraohara 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And pass the trauma gene to HRry

    • @francescostello1377
      @francescostello1377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@moiraohara really, making judgement about something you know nothing of? Might want to do some research on the Royal family and Charlie boy, and , Lord Mountbatten

    • @joycegibbs5267
      @joycegibbs5267 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@francescostello1377 or we might not as we have lives.

    • @francescostello1377
      @francescostello1377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really, might want to do your research on the Royal family...

  • @mariahaarsma9700
    @mariahaarsma9700 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Gosh that tops M andH does it not? I always liked Earl Spencer and am sorry he went through this.

  • @Janner29
    @Janner29 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Their Mother didn't leave the children. My mother told me when I was much younger how Johnny Spencer was known as a bully and wife beater.

    • @Tawadeb
      @Tawadeb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So was Johnny's father

  • @elsa-mariekitching4567
    @elsa-mariekitching4567 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was hit by my father soon after he reconciled with my mother upon our return from Hong Kong. When a teenager my father , a senior RAF Officer took a thick walking cane from a cupboard at the foot of the stairs and gave me "six of the best". My Convent Boarding School
    was my sanctuary which I attended from 10 years old. My father was an alcoholic. It was the demon drink that drove him to beat both myself and my mother who left having received a black eye from him. Eventually she returned. Establishment children are sometimes so unheard, so vulnerable to all manner of abuse - in the home and at Boarding School. It's so sad, isn't it. And it scars for life. - the betrayal that is to say

    • @carlywright5127
      @carlywright5127 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nowadays the poor children have the drink a door the drugs parents. So very sad really to think about. . Why oh why. Choices people make, to escape or whatever and then harm a child.

  • @annehinde9302
    @annehinde9302 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The mother wanted custody but her own Mother betrayed her,so she lost custody.Shame on the teachers .

  • @exJBnz
    @exJBnz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I am so so sorry this abuse ever happened to you

  • @elizabethbesco4758
    @elizabethbesco4758 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Let this man and others speak their truth...is there a statute of limitation to file charges? Raine Spencer was also not kind to the children. Wasn't mom pushed out of the family also?

    • @LucyLocketful
      @LucyLocketful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yes, she was.

    • @priscillaroberts7945
      @priscillaroberts7945 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@LucyLocketful she made up with Diana ,Diana requested a meeting and they became quite good friends by all accounts. Possibly to annoy the rest of the Spencer clan.

    • @janescott4574
      @janescott4574 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think you might find the boot’s on the other foot regarding the Spencer offspring and Raine.

    • @priscillaroberts7945
      @priscillaroberts7945 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@janescott4574 Raine died of cancer a few years ago so whatever the Spencer clan have to say about her is of no concern really. She can't defend herself and probably wouldn't bother anyway.

    • @janescott4574
      @janescott4574 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@priscillaroberts7945 I’m reading lady Colin Campbell’s biography of Diana, it’s an eye opener!

  • @helenmary4869
    @helenmary4869 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was sexually abused at 11years old too.....NO help received !

  • @mariannehavisham8323
    @mariannehavisham8323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Many people, particularly men don't come forward about abuse until MUCH later! This will help ither survivors, it breaks the stigma and taboo that surround these issues.. he is setting an example for other shrvivors by speaking out now
    Being effected by childhood sexual abuse hardly makes you a drama queen! Your words are astonishingly unkind and they are damaging!

  • @francescostello1377
    @francescostello1377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Why is this being discussed on our media, we don't need opinions, or is there an ulterior motive against the Spencer Family!? Nothing new here about the boarding schools, which is also a royal tradition. Anyone really interested in this should read the book.

  • @MTknitter22
    @MTknitter22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It’s so sad. I want the specific PEOPLE outted with their names. What good was it to say anything if there is no accountability???

  • @skeeterm2162
    @skeeterm2162 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is so sad to hear.

  • @saraneuss4089
    @saraneuss4089 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Many boarders were abused and still are

  • @avryllsixtus3429
    @avryllsixtus3429 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Diana admitted many times that she and her brother Charles played nadty tricks on their stepmother Raine and her elderly mother the authoress Barbara Cartland....Raine bore it all gracefully over the years but the four children of the former Earl Spencer gave Raine a very hard time...yet she was devoted to her husband despite it all..although apparently he was not always a charming father...there were stories of frogs in Raine's bed etc...

  • @cheds1
    @cheds1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Most ( elites) get the same treatment .

  • @lindakrelle6607
    @lindakrelle6607 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Dont omit their mother wanted to take the children with her but was firbidden by the father. I believe he would not have allowed her divorce. They wanted them to stay within aristocratic family. Its very cery sad that he didn't want them with the step mother. He should have let them go with mum

    • @deborahrobben7721
      @deborahrobben7721 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Diana's mother wanted to have custody of the children but her own mother testified against her.

  • @TVSkyrama
    @TVSkyrama 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I heard Diana pushed Raine Spencer down some stairs in a quarrel over the refurbishment of Althorpe. Charles Spencer denied his sister a cottage on the Althorpe estate when she was alive but tookl full advantage of her tragic death in having her buried in the gardens of the estate on an artificial island. I wonder why ?

  • @isobelwilson5440
    @isobelwilson5440 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What a really tough childhood they had, just like millions of others who lost a parent, at least she was still alive, but unlike others they did not have a privileged upbringing without wondering where the next meal was coming from -

  • @LisaofHopewell
    @LisaofHopewell 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Spencers were so damaged by their parents divorce, their maternal grandmother siding with Earl Spencer, that Diana and Charles, especially, were too vulnerable for boarding school. Even Sarah, the eldest developed anorexia in addition to Diana developing bulimia and going on a lifelong crusade to be loved. The Spencer men have long been said to be violent. Charles Spencer has seven children with 3 wives--the abuse started with his father's temper, then the divorce, being left with servants, boarding school. Horrific that anyone would send a child away at 8, but it was the accepted practice of the upperclass

  • @fiorenzaattanasio4796
    @fiorenzaattanasio4796 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    When you have a father that abuses his wife children and rich then it affects everyone even the extended family… a lot of families are like this. Good to have the conversation… like Harkles are Abusing British Royal Family British People and Commonwealth… all the same

  • @yolandatrejo3156
    @yolandatrejo3156 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He is beyond brave. God heal him.

  • @suzyq8021
    @suzyq8021 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Are William and Catherine sending George to boarding school?
    Much abuse happens there. Life changing abuse.

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      she doesn't want to...he insists on Eton for George

  • @freespeechforever
    @freespeechforever 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    There's much that raises ghosts for many of us, in my view this situation still exists but people like Theresa May put the lid on it. Everyone who has suffered in this way should let it be known. I'm very well aware of those who would jump on the bandwagon but unless this vile treatment of young people is totally exposed there will be rest for any victim.

    • @user-cp8tw7qi4j
      @user-cp8tw7qi4j 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Problem is when you do finally come forward, your family tries to ignore it, maybe to save face..I don’t know, but the victim can get shunned and the perpetrator gets sympathy. Just makes the pain more horrible.

  • @janweatherheadNZnana6
    @janweatherheadNZnana6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Can you put down your pen and stay off your computer while giving an interview. Listen to him

    • @brigidpierce3138
      @brigidpierce3138 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Was thinking the same myself and boiling at her ignorance.

    • @EthanLomas
      @EthanLomas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why are you so homophobic?!?

    • @janweatherheadNZnana6
      @janweatherheadNZnana6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@brigidpierce3138she continued to do it when they interviewed another person. The older lady fully engaged with the person but not the young one.

  • @francesmeyer8478
    @francesmeyer8478 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember when Andrew and Edward were born. Since I am only seven months older than the king and two years older than the Princess Royal, their arrivals passed me by.🇺🇸

  • @alistairmacrae4870
    @alistairmacrae4870 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Boarding schools, Catholic priests/ ministers, prison, residential schools. say no more!!

    • @jaydee9124
      @jaydee9124 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Coaches

  • @l.b.3152
    @l.b.3152 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I used to have a big crush on prince Edward when a teenager(both of us), but happy to have lost him to such beautiful in and out), princess Sophie. 🙂❤love them both and their beautiful children. 🥰

  • @toronto4640
    @toronto4640 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now we know part of the reason why Prince George was not sent to boarding school at a young age.

  • @1000paulineanne
    @1000paulineanne 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    His mother didn't leave her children, she was prevented from seeing them. Get your facts right, @Anne Diamond

    • @Puddlesmolly
      @Puddlesmolly 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She's a compulsive liar 😂

  • @katiehill619
    @katiehill619 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Spencer family had a very traumatic background. The parents marriage was awful, they were alone a lot, their mother left them (whether forced by circumstances or not), step parents and grandparents were awful bullies, it was a very scarring situation. I'm not surprised that abuse happened in that boarding school environment. You see that all over the world now that people are exposing it. The impacts of childhood trauma are very significant.

  • @dontlooknow.
    @dontlooknow. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ann, almost hyperventilating with glee at alledged dirt on the RF.

  • @chrissierichards6802
    @chrissierichards6802 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    No wonder Diana was so disturbed xx

  • @Stardusted1
    @Stardusted1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The truth always comes out in the end. And it’s usually ugly.

  • @lcg5790
    @lcg5790 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Spencer’s upbringing sounds eerily similar to King Charles in that he had a very distant mother, abusive type father and a strong bond with an uncle who was allegedly a pedo. Fascinating .

  • @donnajarvis9542
    @donnajarvis9542 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It probably happened/happens a lot to children who are sent to boarding school.

  • @Nino-vt9bt
    @Nino-vt9bt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Anne his mother was not aloud to see the children. Because of his father connection s .

  • @ohwiseowl9163
    @ohwiseowl9163 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Some mothers don't see what right in front of there faces ,, I was being drugged and abused and my mother left me a note on my bed telling me ,, This is not a hotel,, compassion was nowhere , its just his some of them are, shame but true

  • @user-gn3ed1mg4m
    @user-gn3ed1mg4m 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought it on Audible and have listened to it twice. Charles always an excellent writer, and his narration is heartbreaking. Good and brave of him to speak up. Secrets are terrible and I hope his courage will help others. Our beautiful Diana was the bravest of all to speak to difficult issues.

  • @donnah5378
    @donnah5378 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sad. 😮He likely did not name the matron because she’s still alive. The police may get it from him.

  • @Mieke3133
    @Mieke3133 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have no sympathy. This the same man that refused to let his sister Diana, move back to Althorp when she was at a low ebb after her marriage failed. 🙄

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Totally untrue. He told her she could have any cottage on the estate except the one she chose because it was by the main gate and could be seen by the public. Diana loved nothing more than being photographed so it would have been a dream come true for her but her brother was worried about security.

    • @jaydee9124
      @jaydee9124 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At the time, I read that he ,supposedly, refused to let her stay because the reporters would climb the trees and ruin them. @@abbatrouble

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If she had chosen another cottage there would ne no reporters!@@jaydee9124

  • @stellamariesmithson1431
    @stellamariesmithson1431 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Brave surviver i hope it helps him heal.

  • @guestguest2030
    @guestguest2030 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think he is hoping more victims come forward so that they can name her and go after her legally. Hence, the public account of the abuse.

  • @mightymissk
    @mightymissk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Earl Spencer’s Dad was a vicious brute who beat his mother. Despite this, it was his mother who lost custody of her children, which is why the Spencer children had such wretched childhoods. I remember reading that Diana said, as a child, she saw her father slap her mother across the face. The damage done by an abuser like the old Earl leaves its mark on children’s souls.

  • @user-em2ml7pd8e
    @user-em2ml7pd8e 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Why don't you just let people read the book for themselves . People can think for themselves, no need for you to give your expertise about every page .

    • @francescostello1377
      @francescostello1377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed,

    • @susanodonohue5661
      @susanodonohue5661 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who is you? That's their job, you can't just go on TV and say nothing except Earl Spencer got a book out, read it.

    • @teresacrawford1239
      @teresacrawford1239 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Their opinion is not an expert opinion.

  • @chippywelsh9040
    @chippywelsh9040 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Abused children/people usually think they’re the only person targeted by the abuser (unless they know e.g a sibling) So when they don’t want to pursue the abuser, mostly because they feel it’s just their word against the abusers, what they don’t realise is the abuser will undoubtedly be targeting others 😢

  • @margaretfoley1247
    @margaretfoley1247 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Why have kids ,just to send them away ?

    • @elizabethlake6986
      @elizabethlake6986 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Althorp isn't far from Maidwell Hall he could have been a day pupil

  • @barbararice6650
    @barbararice6650 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Britain is no country for the young 😕

    • @karate4348
      @karate4348 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is true...
      I've never seen 'no children' signs on restaurants in any other country but England.
      Saw this in the 80's around London.

  • @lindasmith3978
    @lindasmith3978 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🙏 for the Spencer Family.

  • @KathrynRice-tz9dn
    @KathrynRice-tz9dn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Happy Birthday Edward! You are a breathe of fresh air in an otherwise dodgy week of royal developments!

  • @abrakadabrah3031
    @abrakadabrah3031 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Held my neighbor's molestation secret for decades.
    It stopped when we moved.
    Otherwise I could have been another
    Maddie soto...or any other abused child.

  • @plasmichoneytrip
    @plasmichoneytrip 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Being away from parents at that age is alone traumatising with separation anxiety! I do have one. Surely they would have a bit of abandonment issues. What more if they were actually mentally and physically abused by the authorities!

  • @woowoochuggachugga
    @woowoochuggachugga 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Did I hear that the Queen Mother enjoyed bringing Eton boys round for hunting weekends? She was amused by watching them being chased by her dogs.

  • @lynncuthbert2307
    @lynncuthbert2307 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They're all dysfunctional. Money is Evil. The lack of love and nurturing damages the mind and PTSD is real.

  • @annehinde9302
    @annehinde9302 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the Mother left because she was abused?

    • @3_times_mum520
      @3_times_mum520 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She left with her children..And she tried to get her children to stay with her..
      But their father wanted them to get back at her..
      And because she had found another man.. it was easy for him.. when Frances mother wanted the children near the royal family, she went to court and, lies about Frances being a bad mother, to make sure that their father got custody

  • @here_we_go_again2571
    @here_we_go_again2571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Charles Edward has had his own very rocky marriages.
    His father's abuse of his mother (Johnny Spencer's
    father abused Johnny's mother too -- obviously it is a
    learned, multi-generational thing)
    Charles Edward's and Diana's mother's forced
    disappearance (thanks to Lady Fermoy; her own
    mother's taking the father's side -- with a mother like
    that who needs enemies!),
    Stepmother, stepfather, being shunted around for
    holidays, completive holiday grandstanding (e.g.
    "I'm the better parent" etc.)
    It isn't a wonder that both Charles Edward Spencer
    and Diana Spencer were very messed up!
    I now understand why, with all of the chaos in his own
    life; that Charles Edward would *not* allow Diana and
    her boys to move onto a house on the family estate.
    In particular because we now know that Diana was
    tipping off the paparazzi to photograph her during her
    campaign against Charles, Prince of Wales. Also, we
    now know that Diana had a steady stream of lovers
    coming and going, knocking on the door of Kensington
    Palace (Not sure if CE knew about that --- But she
    was certainly getting the attention of the media.)
    Media attention was not what CE and his wives/girl-
    friends wanted !!!!

  • @bridgetmclaughlin6198
    @bridgetmclaughlin6198 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Strange thing is Diana and Charles repeated their parents mistake but the two older sisters didn’t. Maybe boarding school actually helped them. They would’ve been older and away when their parental separated.

  • @CaroL-nf5rs
    @CaroL-nf5rs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It says a lot about public schools mentality at that time. Not the Spencer family

  • @lindachandler4750
    @lindachandler4750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Happy birthday Edward 🎉