I was the drummer in a band called Leapin' Lena out of East Boston. We did original material, but we used to play "Wild Horses" before the Stones released it. We had listened to Gram Parsons doing it and loved it.
William, that was the first thing in he interview I laughed out loud from...lol. Imagine Keith Richards saying to another you need to take better care of yourself?...lol. How he hasn't died 100 times over by now escapes me. He must have made one hell of a deal with the devil.
Love the Stones. Love Gram. But Keith totally dances around the question here. Yes, Gram Parsons most definitely did influence the Rolling Stone's in their country rock flavored songs like "Dead Flowers" and "Wild Horses" for sure.
Kieths not going to explain the complex intracacies of how stones songs were created in these short little clips he's doing. Sympathy for the devil shows how they make songs, and they all fuck around for a while, until the way they're going to do the song comes out. Maybe graham was there fucking around with them and contributed to wild horses. It's hard to say, there's that video of keith and parsons with parsons noodling over kieths wild horses chords, but isnt that after they already recorded wild horses in muscle shaols?
@@american_cosmic What does that mean exactly? "leaning in the same direction" Seems keith came up with the chord progression.. Did Mic or Parsons come up with the melody?
@@american_cosmic Yeah but that's not the question everyone on youtube is asking. Everyone wants to know if Parsons wrote any part of Wild Horses. I guess no reporter is going to ask Keith that.
Gram Parsons was a greatly gifted and amazingly talented pioneer of country rock music he was just a kid when he died @ 26 years of age. During his life he accomplished more things than most people did in a lifetime. Wild Horses & Dead Flowers forever, And I won't forget to put rose's on your grave. Yep..
@@chucku.farley6463 Those are Jagger Richards compositions. I remember The Flying Burrito Brothers and The Gram Parsons Project when I was a teen during the 1970's. After seeing this interview I had to look him up and yes he was a genus. And it was never a secret about Keith's love for country music and the Stones played it so well. Peace.
@@chucku.farley6463 A compassionate story about your friend & the recording of Grievous Angel. Without a doubt I miss walking into a record store and and looking through a section and alphabetically thumbing through vinyl or CD's and picking out recordings from your favorite artists. From the time I was in grade school during the mid 1960's to this date The Rolling Stones turned us on to so many musicians that they covered. And musicians that did covers of music by Jagger Richards so well and in good taste to the likes of Gram Parsons. Well I guess that one hand washes the other and it's what makes the world go around in music or in life. To You & Yours Be Well - Happy New Year !
@@NickNicometi I looked him up on Wiki, he was of money and didn't live in poverty, but he didn't' have a charmed childhood. His biological parents were alcoholics and his father committed suicide. But, as the old saying goes - It Is What It Is..
Part 2. Keith gave me about 20/30 minutes of his time, was incredibly gracious, supercool and everything you hoped Keith Richards would be. Because I knew my Stones history backward he totally engaged with me, when Gram Parsons came up he said ' Dear Gram God rest his soul' and made the sign of the cross (which impressed me greatly). After I felt I had taken up enough of his time he signed a $5 note and I watched him go over to Mick, while I went and stood outside on the beach soaking it up. Within minutes Mick was standing at my shoulder...so of course I spoke to him, but that is another story. Viva The Rolling Stones & Gram Parsons.
Self importance the first, because success becomes toxic in childish minds. Nevertheless, if you add Chris Hilman and Dylan, the birth of country rock will remain a glorious moment. Enjoy soft or loud, and dont forget to bless TH-cam, Google,Gates ... Stupids think otherwise.
It's utterly amazing that this man is still walking the planet! I saw his picture on a magazine cover and thought "Was it a deal with the Devil or what? How'd you avoid the reaper all these years?"
That really was a great question about Gram Parsons if only because it caused Richards to stop and focus and make some of his most intelligent and articulate and heartfelt comments. It's like when Eric Clapton talks about Gregg Allman: brothers from another mother.
I use to cry when I heard this song. It touches my soul. It brings back old memories of someone I loved so much. I believed in us. He left after 17 years. This song reminds me of us when we were young and promised the world to each other. I guess it was silly of us. I've moved on and I'm in a good relationship much healthier.
I saw Gram Parsons and Emmylou Harris play together in a bar in Georgetown, DC as a kid. Didn’t know who they were at the time…young, drinking, looking for fun🤠
Every interview I've seen him in he is very humble, candid, funny and insightful. The Rolling Stones have always been a serious band, fun loving for sure, but they worked very hard to perfect their sound. I saw them only once, in Germany in 1971. I was in the Army. They were having an off night, and Mick Jagger was being a j*rk, but they cooked on a couple of songs - Honky Tonk Women and Street Fightin' Man.
Thank you Mr Richards, First, thank you and the Stones for your music and especially ‘Ruby Tuesday’ for the line, ‘lose your dreams and you will lose your mind’ and ‘Wild Horses’ which is the only song I play from your vast repertoire! I am happy to know one of your great songs. It is great to hear your tributes to Gram Parsons. You say it in a way that I am sure Gram would be proud; it’s from a true friend. I never figured out why he was lost from sight until I heard yesterday that Jim Croce died the day after he did. One of my favorite albums is ‘Sweetheart of the Rodeo’ and I never knew that Gram had such an influence on that iconic album. If I may say one thing about what you said about Gram’s lifestyle and that is I would only say this. Unfortunately accidents happen and that is it wasn’t anything more than bad luck that day for Gram and it could have happened to all of us dozens of times and I speak for myself. We can’t criticize someone’s way of life and say he or she was too ‘this’ or not enough ‘that’ because we ourselves wouldn’t want someone talking about us like that if we had a mishap and lady luck was out to lunch and it was all over. Gram Parsons sure had a good friend in you and you have made artists round the world keep going for their dreams.
I disagree if you abuse substance it’s not unlucky or an accident - action equals consequences - yes accidents happen to all of us but if you put yourself repeatedly in harms way - your chances are higher of reaping what you sow!
yes, I thought so as well. In the US, that would suggest foul play. In the UK it might mean something else so I'll just leave it at that. But then, perhaps Keith wanted to say Gram should have kept away from the booze and the drugs but then thought to himself, "That one's gonna come back and bite me."
Gotta love Keith Richards. He not only talks sense, but in the 1970's he was the coolest guy in town. Was fortunate enough to meet him in a nightclub called Harbour Lights in Barbados-Mick was there too, and they only had one person keeping an eye out for them. Keith had been there on his own the night before, but this time when I looked up and saw him by himself at the bar with a jack and coke I figured it was now or never, what with the Stones having been my favourite group for the past 15 years.
Jagger recalled his contributions to “Wild Horses” in the liner notes to the 1993 Stones’ anthology Jump Back: The Best Of The Rolling Stones. “I remember we sat around doing this with Gram Parsons, and I think his version came out slightly before ours,” Mick said. “
@@terriqueen3315 th-cam.com/video/8I48TGYnVUY/w-d-xo.html The song is enigmatic forsure, listening to keith play the chord progression and parsons noodling lead guitar over it, if this video is from before parsons recorded the song, it guess that was parsons contribution and jagger caem up with his vocal phrasing and singing melody much of it based off the soul of parsons guitar noodling.. Technically still making it a jagger and richards song lyric is like 75 % of publshing and richards invented the chord progression, but at the same time theres parsons soulfulness in the song as much as richards and jagger. PArsons then wouldnt feel like he wrote the song, just that he influenced the way jagger sang...with his guitar playing over those richards chords. This makes sense based on the video, and all their later claims.
@@barneyrubble8255 that's not correct. The Stones recorded Wild Horses before Gram did, but Gram released his first. Stones recorded it over a three-day period at Muscle Shoals Sound Studio in Alabama during 2-4 December 1969 but didn't release it till much later. Meanwhile the Burrito Bros released their version six months later in May 1970
The 1960s and early 70s were an unprecedented time in popular music. It was fertile ground for innovation, cross-pollination, and searching for wider and deeper expression. By 1968 many bands and artists were mining the blues, C & W, bluegrass and even jazz to broaden their palettes. I'm sure Gram influenced the Stones, while the Stones influenced hundreds of other artists. Some will argue that the lyrical tone of Wild Horses sounds more like Gram than the Stones, but I think it fits in plausibly with some of the Stones more melancholy ballads of the mid-60s. But these are all opinions, and I'll take Keith and Gram at their word - the Stones wrote WH and gave it to Gram because they knew he would love it and do it justice on his own. Again, just my opinion. But whoever was the main writers(s), they created a fucking masterpiece.
OMG...I love him! I will be sad when he goes...REALLY sad...ok, he's still here, chin up, let's keep enjoying! Sorry, just on a COVID bummer at the moment. Heading to the wine cabinet and the record shelf right now. A glass of red and "Sticky Fingers" on vinyl. Cheers!
Grams notebook is the the rock and roll hall of fame with 3 different versions of wild horses including chord progressions… he probably wrote it with Keith while introducing him to some country stuff when they lived together in France. Jagger has said they worked on it together and there’s a recording of gram saying the stones wrote it so who knows?!?
Pretty shocking, the lifestyle that claimed so many, ultimately, even took Charlie away thogh he quit his drinking and drugging and smoking too, probably not soon enough.. Oddly, it wasn't drugs that killed John Lennon, who took drugs and drank and smoked, it was a gun!
"If he'd just kept his mouth shut ..." I listened to a radio interview done in Massachusetts 6 months before he died and he did not sound strung out or messed up At All; very lucid and candid. Grand Theft Parsons - yeah, watch the movie and judge for yourselves.
It could have just been a weekend of extreme over indulgence that happened. Either way it was so sad and left the world wondering what could have been. Will always Love Gram 💕
Ingram Cecil Connor III (November 5, 1946 - September 19, 1973), known professionally as Gram Parsons, was an American singer, songwriter, guitarist, and pianist. Parsons recorded as a solo artist and with the International Submarine Band, the Byrds, and the Flying Burrito Brothers. He popularized what he called "Cosmic American Music", a hybrid of country, rhythm and blues, soul, folk, and rock
Keef's been my main man over the last 50+ years, and I really hope he'll be there at least as long as me. Still, GP not only "influenced Keef". Without GP, there would not have been Sticky Fingers, or the Exile, or probably the Stones altogether.
Yep, my favorite song off of Exile and I doubt that very many people know of it. I think the Stones only tried to play it live once to my knowledge with Ron Wood on pedal steel and it definitely needed some work to make it sound better.
That is without a doubt correct .You can also add the song ,"Dead Flowers" off Sticky Fingers on that song list .Gram and Keith were soul brothers .I think Keith learned a lot from Gram ,and Gram wanted to be the 6th Rolling Stone. Both Gram and Keith were doing so many drugs together the band had to Gram out of the Exile On Main Street sessions.
You're absolutely right. I also like to add Sweet Virginia. Read several times that Gram was in the studio when they recorded it (in Keith's basement) and possibly sang backing vocals on it. During the last seconds of the song you can hear somebody say with an American accent: "Far out." Maybe Gram?
I think (maybe) Mick's issue with Gram wasn't jealousy, it became at one point that Mick felt Gram and Keith were feeding each other (in many ways), but that Gram was taking away focus causing a detoured influence (of time) from the Stones. Maybe Mick felt Keith should have been working on the Stones and not playing around so much, probably also the worry of the amount of drink/drug usage when they were together. I think/feel losing Keith to drink/drug overdose (or any reason for that matter) would have been detrimental to the Stones, it could have ended the Stones. It's beyond sad that we lost Gram 💔, I was very much a Gram follower 💕. I am of that time and it is the music that I listen to all the time !!! ☮️🙏💜
Read Keith's book. I don't ever think there was any "alpha" nonsense as part of the equation. I think Gram and Keith just saw somewhat of a mirror in each other and were a bit struck, musically speaking. Kind of like "where has this person been all my life?". Just a great, symbiotic match. I think 'Country', as a genre, would've found its way into the Stones' music eventually. Gram's influence on Keith simply accelerated the process.
So right about gram check out gram singing Christian life live in Rome with the Byrd’s on callin me home lp he slows down the tempo it’s like a Gregorian chant so beautiful powerful also you don’t miss your water and hickory wind on same lp all head and shoulders above everything else on that album gram forever
Gotta Love Keef. Period. Or if you wanna go into the why's and when's you'll wind up with a volume that makes Tolstoy's War And Peace look like a flyer at your nearest strip mall.
I was just thinking ( Jah wonderful) of the last chord or about the last one in Can't You Hear Me Knocking, sounds somber, like, it can go someplace else, and I wonder if that was Graham's influence. Just wondering. No blame.
Kevan Brown wild horses is a strange one for the stones. Listen to Susan boyles version! It blew my mind and I am sure that Keith would recognise it as perfection!
@@margaretross9150 Yes, now having listened to it properly, it's a great version. www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/flying-burrito-brothers-gram-parsons-rolling-stones-wild-horses-1158844/
agreed, except I think Gram wrote the song. he didn't have a "hit" because he didn't live long enough, and country music said he "wasn't country" which is bull, in my opinion. how well versed was Keith with country again? BS
Gram is on record saying he first heard Wild Horses after the Altamont concert and Mick asked him if he could put a steel guitar track on a master if he sent it. Gram said they had some strange dust at the studio and the Stones didn't use the track. Gram asked Mick if he could use the song and released it. The Stones didn't release it until about a year later. You can hear Gram's voice saying it on youtube.
I like to think that too, but if you look at the timeline . . . ( don't get me wrong, I love Gram and I love the Stones, but if you REALLY look at the timing, well . . . ) BUT, Gram DEFINITELY had an influence! Every time I hear "Far Away Eyes" and many other songs I immediately think of Gram! Thanks! Take care, be safe and God Bless!
Randy C Yes, I saw & heard that interview as well. I wish people would read what truths others share with them in comments, instead of continuing to make up their own story (rumor). They heard it from “horses mouth”, (Gram), and still believe and comment, that Gram wrote it.
Jan -- "No one at his age gets away with that kind of outfit except KR." -- respectfully take into consideration: For decades upon decades before Keith was born gypsies, bohemians, tramps, hobos, pirates & some eccentric artists dressed this way & many were even older than he is. Mostly European in nature, be it French, Greek, Russian, Austrian, some Italians & Spanish from Spain (Bohos), & much later some old west drifters & drovers. Keith's get-up is not original -- he's just famous for it. I'm glad he adapted it. It suits him. But he didn't develop it -- he interpreted it. As for the colorful rubber bands & trinkets that hang from his hair -- the late Captain Lou Albano of wrestling fame wore those 40 years ago & he wasn't young.
Many artists give him credit for greatly influencing their careers; Emmylou Harris, Dwight Yoakam, Ian Tyson, Jim Lauderdale, Evan Dando among them. Linda Ronstadt said they had a shared musical vision. The Stones maybe not so much.
Gram was like Hendrix and bolan all of them were creating amazing music which was well ahead of their time each of them were musical geniuses 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
When gram done an interview which is on TH-cam he said when he was in London and with Keith Richard’s and mick jagger he asked them if he could use the song wild horses on his album and Keith and mick both agreed he could that doesn’t sound like someone who wrote the track it sounds like someone asking the song writers permission to use that song no disrespect to gram intended
This wasn't the first time, he also stepped up for former bandmates, Bobby Keys & Charlie Watts, during some challenging points of their lives. He knows what's going on!!
Lol yeah Johnny Depp really does not know who he is, and Richards is one of a kind - there is only one Keith Richards but Depp does not know who he really is - and he's a actor so he imitates cool and interesting people like Keith Richards
Enough with the conspiracy theories! Can't we love both artists without this nonsense. Wild Horses is a Stones composition, everyone who was there confirms this. The Stones, Jimmy Miller, Bobby Keys, and Jim Dickinson all say this. Even Gram himself( list to audio clip in "What happened to Gram Parsons) says "they gave it to me to record"
There’s a lesson here for all of us. I just don’t know what it is. When aliens finally visit the burned out husk of this planet in a few million years, I hope keef has a good line up of stones songs picked out to play for them.
Parsons lost his Dad (by suicide) when he was 12, and his Mum when he was 19 (boozed herself to death). Might have made him try to ease the pain via booze and drugs.
@@joefairweatherblues8511 His wife said it did hurt him a lot. On the other hand it got him to focus on recording again, producing his two solo albums before he lost the struggle.
Keith may have been referring to Gram's death being due to the effects of his combining morphine with alcohol. He once said that Gram knew better than to do that.
Check out gram singing Christian life live in Rome with the Byrd’s on callin me home lp it’s like a Gregorian chant the genius of gram parsons beautiful powerful thank you gram god bless you forever
Humm, one of the few times I've seen Keef looking nervous and unsettled? I'd bet a tonne Wild Horses was a GP song or at least came out of a jam as a demo/rough cut. Edit, yeah, what was that line KR said at 1:01 "if he would have kept his mouth shut"?
@@patexx7091 Other than the fact the Wild Horses sounds just like a Gram Parsons song, and the Rolling Stones did the country influenced songs at the time Parsons and Richards were hanging out and friends? John Lennon has said The Stones always put out an album two months after the Beatles trying to cope the Beatles vibe.
I'm guessing the "mouth shut" comment just means he shouldn't have mixed an opiate with alcohol, something Keith has referred to before. That combination of respiratory depressants sadly pushed Gram over the edge. Those guys thought they knew what they were doing, but they were flirting with death, especially Gram, who had a family history of addiction.
According to Gram himself, no. The stones had already recorded the song when Gram first heard it. He then was asked to play a steel guitar over the master and agreed but the stones decided not to use the remaster but gave Gram permission to release the song as payback for trying the steel guitar recording despite it not ever being used. Gram said this in his own words.
It's good that even Keith underwent various substance abuse & booze, he really was aware of his limits-unlike other drug or substance users like Gram Parsons & Brian Jones, they really hit rock bottom until they lost their lives.
That's just mythologizing. Does Keith have an unusually sturdy constitution? That seems pretty obvious, but he's also VERY lucky. He could just as easily have died as any other drug casualty in the '70s.
It was the OPPOSITE of mythologizing, the guy suggested Keith KNEW the limit to his string. How did you misinterpret that? If anything what you said was myth.
It's so amazing that this guy smokes,drinks like a fish and God only knows what else and he is still alive.. Strong genes or just very lucky! God bless you Keith👍
Charming personality, lovely manners, heartbreaking vocals, haunting lyrics, deep understanding of American musical styles, good sense of humour, gorgeous appearance, great sense of style; I've probably missed a few. Unfortunately coupled with self destructiveness and erratic behaviour. Legend.
It was Dylan who broke away from the scene imo with stuff like John Wesley Harding that showed the way. That said Gram played on my favourite Byrd’s record Sweetheart of the Rodeo
I gonna put in a straight comment, and not do 'replies' to all these wrong-way riffs on Gram & the Stones: yeah, Kieth and Gram were natural soul-mates, socially and even more so musically: they were both of that very rare breed who can grasp Composition, Arrangement, and Orchestration as naturally as picking the strings. They were both Chord Construction & Chord Progression guys; both the kind who will sit up for two nights to find the right way to fret A Minor Suspended-that's what they loved about each other, Gram probably had more of that in him than even Mick did, which probably why they would never get along. What Gram DID lack, was anything like the DISCIPLINE that Mick & Kieth have brought to their music for near-on 60 years, Gram was never going to work that hard, and Kieth knew that also. That some of it must have come out of the all-night jams with Gram, is why musicians jam in the first place. More than Kieth picked up from Ry Cooder, or Al Kooper, or even Scotty Moore, who he never did record with? Does it Matter?
Thats what i think the song came out of an all night drug jam with richards mic and parsons. That would make sense why they would let him record it first, but also why parsons claims that richards and jagger wrote it, they may of wrote most of it, playing off of what ever parsons was doing
No he didn’t Keith Richard’s and mick jagger wrote it there’s a interview with gram and he said he asked Keith and mick for permission to use the track on his album
So what's the guess on Keith's age in this interview? I say 30 Because if I remember correctly his plan was to celebrate his 30th birthday that night with a huge alcohol and drug fuelled party 🥳... ... or was it just a normal Wednesday? I always get them mixed up.
I sense some serious resentment from clean living fucks who know they'll never live as long as Keith or accomplish as much as he has in his life.There should be a big picture of Keith having a smoke and whiskey in every gym when he turns 80 shortly.Not an ounce of fat on him.
Damn straight, Gram Parsons wrote "Wild Horses." John Lennon complained about the Stones ripping off the Beatles' concept albums. In my opinion, Keith knows more about GP than he is willing to admit--not to mention his drug habit.
@@RobinSchoutenRS Agree. There’s a lot of “cross pollinating” that takes place with music. A lot of it subconscious. “Influence” is a bit stronger implying a direct and easily definable thing. Chuck Berry for example influenced Keith, you can hear it. Keith will readily cite it. Parsons and Keith were contemporaries and some less definable attributes of each might rub off on each other.
Keith, I’d like to ask you one question if you will, please? Did Gram finally figure that alcohol and drugs would be the only way that he would get his full dues by just killing himself? I will always wonder because he appeared to be so far ahead of his “time”.
I'm obviously not Keith, but his sister said something similar once. However, after reading his bios I think he had problems with depression after his disjointed, grief-stricken childhood. That last year he looked pretty miserable in most pictures of him except when he was performing with Emmylou Harris. If his personal life had improved, I think there was a chance for him, but time and luck ran out. Such a sad loss!
Strange isn't it, that Keith say's that Gram would still probably be alive if, (And Im directly quoting Keith here.) "" If he (meaning Gram) could of just kept his mouth shut"" Hmm... Now why would Gram still be alive if he had just kept his mouth shut? The official cause of death for Gram Parson was the result of a supposed heroin over does. Which it self seemed to embody some unusual circumstances... In fact there was even a short documentary made about the events that surrounded Gram. Parson's supposed heroin overdose. But according to one of Grams best friends, Keith Richards, Gram didn't die from a heroin over dose at all... He died because he wouldn't keep his mouth shut" Hmm.... Why would someone die simply because they wouldn't keep their mouth shut?... Perhaps there is a little more to this story, than what we have been told by either the officials involved, or that was touched upon in the either of the documentaries made about Gram.. One being "Fallen Angel" done with Emily Lou Harris, who makes a strange comment in that doc, and I quote " If only that one person hadn't shown up at the wrong time" As though it sounds like a heroin dealer or old contact who somehow got Gram back on heroin, its just to convenient, in that it gives a not so credible support for the official explanation, that Gram simply died of a heroin overdose.. It sounded more like she was just trying fit the official narrative. But it didn't sound, at least to me, like she was actually describing the real events that led to his death.. Also on one of his albums, he is shown standing next to a motel room with his band and a girl, who looks like the supposed girl who was according to the official story at the motel in Joshua Tree, when he supposedly overdosed... The motel room in Joshua Tree was #8 and the room on the album cover was also #8. Does that sound like more than a coincidence to you? It sort of does to me.. After all the odds of that happening purely randomly are to say the least an extremely unlikely correspondence... The so called manager of his band, just happened to be locked up with Charles Manson, several years before anybody even knew who Manson was.. And of course this manager is the same clown who supposedly had a pact with Gram that if either of them died, the other would burn the others body, so not to have to be subjected to a normal burial., Ya, right. That explanation makes zero sense, and yet this precisely why, the manager claimed that he stole Grams body, took it to the desert and tried to burn it to ashes. It sounds to me as like Gram was probably murdered, or perhaps ordered by some governmental agency such as the CIA to kill himself or to face much more painful form of death at their hands.. Any Ideas?
Actually the evidence is not vague. The fact that the CIA used both those who control the music industry in Hollywood at that time and the fact that almost every major hippie music star in Hollywood came from highly placed families who were either blue blood elites, as in the case of David Crosby and in some respects Gram Parson and or that their families were deeply entrenched in the military industrial complex is an established fact.. The objective of the operation was to destroy the credibility of both the growing and very legitimate anti war movement on college campuses by mixing two together and making the legitimate movement look like a bunch of dirty lazy, drug taking hippies.. And by so doing the American public would turn their backs on the legitimate movement.. And thus the draft could continue3 and the war would be make to look as a legitimate and necessary policy... Every musician who got involved and then decided that they didn't want to participate anymore, were categorized as a liability because they might start talking about were eliminated... And if you listen to Grams interviews, he mentions quite clearly that he thought that while with the Byrds he had reason to believe that his life was in danger.. In one of the interviews, Emmy Lou Harris was with and she seemed to understand what he was referring to.... A lot good artists who originally participated were eventually murdered including Al "Blind Owl Wilson of "Canned Heat" Mama Cass Elliot - Was not from a connected family, but she went to HS with Jim Morrison in Maryland and whos father was the Admiral on the U.S.S. Maddox at the Gulf of Tonkin and he was responsible for the false reports used to start the Viet Nam war... Believe it or not.... Jim was part of the operation from the beginning and probably had something to do with getting Mama Cass into the Circle... John Phillips of the Mama's and the Papas was not a hippie.. He was a graduate of U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis.. Why would he turn into a hippie, that is unless he was also working for the Govt at the same time. was in. She was next door neighbors with Abigail Folgers who was killed with Sharon Tate and was friends with Charles Manson. And was actually slated to testify on his behalf but that testimony was not allowed to take place... Its was way risky of an exposure... She never choked on a Ham sandwich. They wee mocking her... Jimmy Hendrix - was still an active member of the101st airborne at the time of his death.. Janis Joplin= her father was connected in the Oil industry in Texas Dennis Wilson was not connected but he was right in the middle of it and was a major liability. Gram Parsons - His father was Air Force Ace and his family "the Snively's were extremely rich. Brian Jones of the "Rolling Stones" was killed on orders by MI-6 And Mick was a major player and took over... The operation included both American and British artists through M I 6 in London.. The r3ason why the British participated is very a dangerous topic and is too deep to get into here... The connection of this operation to the Sharon Tate murder is a very real and purposeful connection. Manson was put into the scene on Laurel Canyon by the CIA and when his follower killed Tate and others who knew what was going on, the CIA through the media used the murder scene along with the Altamont concert event to kill the very movement that they themselves had created just a few years earlier.. The original operation was not going as planned and was risking public exposure.. Since the CIA was illegally conducting an operation on US soil, the risk was too great and so they killed it... Thats not what may of happened, this is what the facts and the evidence prove happened... Whether you or anybody else likes it or not...
Some true facts about the 60's hippie music scene. Proceed at your own risk. First, the evidence is not vague. The fact that the CIA used both those who control the music industry in Hollywood at that time and the fact that almost every major hippie music star in Hollywood came from highly placed families who were either blue blood elites, as in the case of David Crosby and in some respects Gram Parson and or that their families were deeply entrenched in the military industrial complex is an established fact.. The objective of the operation was to destroy the credibility of both the growing and very legitimate anti war movement on college campuses by mixing two together and making the legitimate movement look like a bunch of dirty lazy, drug taking hippies.. And by so doing the American public would turn their backs on the legitimate movement.. And thus the draft could continue3 and the war would be make to look as a legitimate and necessary policy... Every musician who got involved and then decided that they didn't want to participate anymore, were categorized as a liability because they might start talking about were eliminated... If you listen to the interviews by Gram Parsons before he was killed, you will see thaty he mentions quite clearly that he thought that while with the Byrds he had reason to believe that his life was in danger.. The fact that one of his closest musician friends Keith Richards of the "Rolling Stones" states in a recorded interview "if only Gram had kept his mouth shut" he would still be here is not a mistake in his use of words.. His intent, his meaning and his demeanor are obvious and there is no doubt about the words he spoke... Gram was killed because he couldn't keep his mouth shut... In one of the interviews, Emmy Lou Harris was with and she seemed to understand what he was referring to.... A lot good artists who originally participated were eventually murdered including but not limited too.. 1. Al "Blind Owl" Wilson of "Canned Heat" 2. Jimmy Hendrix - was still an active member of the101st airborne at the time of his death.. 3. Janis Joplin- her father was connected in the Oil industry in Texas 4. Dennis Wilson was not connected but he was right in the middle of it and was a major liability. 5. Gram Parsons - His father was Air Force Ace and his family "the Snively's were extremely rich orange barons in Florida. 6. Mama Cass Elliot - Was not from a connected family, but she went to HS with Jim Morrison in Maryland who as you will see was deeply involved and she was probably recruited by him in LA. Cass Elliot was not only next door neighbors with Abigail Folgers in Laurel Canyon, who was killed with Sharon Tate. She was also friends with Charles Manson( thats probably not a coincidence). Cass Elliot was actually slated to testify on Manson's behalf but that testimony was not allowed to take place... Its was simply too risky of an exposure for the wider operation itself. But it does help explain why she was considered a liability and was eventually killed..She never choked on a Ham sandwich. They were simply mocking her... 7. Brian Jones of the "Rolling Stones" was killed probably on orders by MI-6. Since the murders were known and yet never charged.. And since Mick was a major player who was recruited while studying economics at a prominent school. He was slated to take over... The operation included both American and British artists through M I 6 in London.. The reason why the British participated is very a dangerous topic and is too deep to get into here.. The Leaders on the Hippie side of the Operation. 1. Jim Morrison whos father was the Admiral on the U.S.S. Maddox at the Gulf of Tonkin and it was his false reports about fabricated attacks that were used to start the Viet Nam war... Believe it or not.... Jim Morrison went to Paris to escape media attention and then was shuffled off into the CIA's version of the witness protection.. Don't believe it? You should because its exactly what happened... 2. John Phillips of the Mama's and the Papas was not a hippie.. He was a graduate of U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis.. Why would he turn into a hippie, that is unless he was also working for the Govt at the same time. 3. David Crosby of the "Byrds" and later "CSNY" comes from a blue blood family who's political connections were deep and long standing. 4. Frank Zappa's dad was chemical research specialist at the Army's Edge wood Arsenal.. He's was the smartest of the whole group and was used to keep things on track. He didn't need to record hit records. His friend Capt Beef heart was also part of it. When Frank contracted Cancer in the early 90's Frank seemed to think that instead of identifying it and treating it, they decided to further reduce the liability of those who knew to much from talking. The connection of this operation to the Sharon Tate murder is a very real and purposeful connection. Manson was put into the scene on Laurel Canyon by the CIA and when his follower killed Tate and others who knew what was going on, the CIA through the media used the murder scene along with the Altamont concert event to kill the very movement that they themselves had created just a few years earlier.. The original operation was not going as planned and was risking public exposure.. Since the CIA was illegally conducting an operation on US soil, the risk was too great and so they killed it... Thats not what may of happened, this is what the facts and the evidence prove happened... Whether you or anybody else likes it or not...
Gram did have influence on the Stones without a hit record. Richards' ego is in the way. Richard simply will not give credit to Gram Parsons. One can tell by Richard's hand gestures and what he is saying. He's attempting to go around the subject of Parsons' influence.
This is true. For all the problems, addiction, etc., he had, the man was also a genius. He always seemed to be one step ahead, especially with his accomplishments!
I was the drummer in a band called Leapin' Lena out of East Boston. We did original material, but we used to play "Wild Horses" before the Stones released it. We had listened to Gram Parsons doing it and loved it.
When you see Gram's smile, what's not to love! So ahead of his time! Still is! Forever young...❤
"If he'd only taken better care of himself", spoken by the master
... with an emphysema cough.
When Keith Richards says it, you know it was bad.
William, that was the first thing in he interview I laughed out loud from...lol. Imagine Keith Richards saying to another you need to take better care of yourself?...lol. How he hasn't died 100 times over by now escapes me. He must have made one hell of a deal with the devil.
@@terr777 and yet Keith Richards is still performing. ✌❤🌻
@@jfayiii Really! ✌❤🌻
Love the Stones. Love Gram. But Keith totally dances around the question here. Yes, Gram Parsons most definitely did influence the Rolling Stone's in their country rock flavored songs like "Dead Flowers" and "Wild Horses" for sure.
Kieths not going to explain the complex intracacies of how stones songs were created in these short little clips he's doing. Sympathy for the devil shows how they make songs, and they all fuck around for a while, until the way they're going to do the song comes out. Maybe graham was there fucking around with them and contributed to wild horses. It's hard to say, there's that video of keith and parsons with parsons noodling over kieths wild horses chords, but isnt that after they already recorded wild horses in muscle shaols?
I dont think he danced around anything... he said flat-out they were both leaning in the same direction.
@@american_cosmic What does that mean exactly? "leaning in the same direction" Seems keith came up with the chord progression.. Did Mic or Parsons come up with the melody?
@@barneyrubble8255 Leaning in the same direction as far as exploring a fusion of rock and country. That's what Keith meant.
@@american_cosmic Yeah but that's not the question everyone on youtube is asking. Everyone wants to know if Parsons wrote any part of Wild Horses. I guess no reporter is going to ask Keith that.
Gram Parsons was a greatly gifted and amazingly talented pioneer of country rock music he was just a kid when he died @ 26 years of age. During his life he accomplished more things than most people did in a lifetime. Wild Horses & Dead Flowers forever, And I won't forget to put rose's on your grave. Yep..
@@chucku.farley6463 Those are Jagger Richards compositions. I remember The Flying Burrito Brothers and The Gram Parsons Project when I was a teen during the 1970's. After seeing this interview I had to look him up and yes he was a genus. And it was never a secret about Keith's love for country music and the Stones played it so well. Peace.
@@chucku.farley6463 A compassionate story about your friend & the recording of Grievous Angel. Without a doubt I miss walking into a record store and and looking through a section and alphabetically thumbing through vinyl or CD's and picking out recordings from your favorite artists. From the time I was in grade school during the mid 1960's to this date The Rolling Stones turned us on to so many musicians that they covered. And musicians that did covers of music by Jagger Richards so well and in good taste to the likes of Gram Parsons. Well I guess that one hand washes the other and it's what makes the world go around in music or in life. To You & Yours Be Well - Happy New Year !
Don't forget 'She' what a beautiful tune!
Gram was a trust-fund baby and while most musicians were struggling, Gram had the luxury to philosophize & medicate.
@@NickNicometi I looked him up on Wiki, he was of money and didn't live in poverty, but he didn't' have a charmed childhood. His biological parents were alcoholics and his father committed suicide. But, as the old saying goes - It Is What It Is..
Gram is so sadly missed by us all, but his music will go on forever.
No. He's not missed by us all. He ended up where he was supposed to. Dead
Part 2.
Keith gave me about 20/30 minutes of his time, was incredibly gracious, supercool and everything you hoped Keith Richards would be. Because I knew my Stones history backward he totally engaged with me, when Gram Parsons came up he said ' Dear Gram God rest his soul' and made the sign of the cross (which impressed me greatly).
After I felt I had taken up enough of his time he signed a $5 note and I watched him go over to Mick, while I went and stood outside on the beach soaking it up. Within minutes Mick was standing at my shoulder...so of course I spoke to him, but that is another story.
Viva The Rolling Stones & Gram Parsons.
Old Keef. You gotta love him, "if he'd only just taken a little more care of himself". That has to be the funniest interview line ever.
Bless you Keith for those kind words about Gram.
Geez you know if Keith Richards is saying he should have taken better care of yourself, you might have some pretty serious problems.
Self importance the first, because success becomes toxic in childish minds. Nevertheless, if you add Chris Hilman and Dylan, the birth of country rock will remain a glorious moment. Enjoy soft or loud, and dont forget to bless TH-cam, Google,Gates ... Stupids think otherwise.
It's utterly amazing that this man is still walking the planet! I saw his picture on a magazine cover and thought "Was it a deal with the Devil or what? How'd you avoid the reaper all these years?"
I have to admit after he said that my mind was spinning ... had to rewind to hear the rest lol
@@TMIDiva all that prime pussy he got in the 60s
Yeah lol
Watching Keith here makes me feel more than ever that Parsons wrote Wild Horses.
That really was a great question about Gram Parsons if only because it caused Richards to stop and focus and make some of his most intelligent and articulate and heartfelt comments. It's like when Eric Clapton talks about Gregg Allman: brothers from another mother.
Gram Parsons was underrated
“underrated” is way over used
@@daveyvane 🔔 end
Underated? The opposite, in my view
@@kurthagardorn I don’t care
keith is really such a sweet, tender spirit. His voice is great.
What a brilliant man. Just listening to him speak you can see that he is thinking about a thousand more things than he is talking about.
I use to cry when I heard this song. It touches my soul. It brings back old memories of someone I loved so much. I believed in us. He left after 17 years. This song reminds me of us when we were young and promised the world to each other. I guess it was silly of us. I've moved on and I'm in a good relationship much healthier.
what fuckin song
He has so much character in that face. Well said Keith
We have to make sure our grandchildren leave a better world for Keith Richards.
I saw Gram Parsons and Emmylou Harris play together in a bar in Georgetown, DC as a kid. Didn’t know who they were at the time…young, drinking, looking for fun🤠
Every interview I've seen him in he is very humble, candid, funny and insightful. The Rolling Stones have always been a serious band, fun loving for sure, but they worked very hard to perfect their sound. I saw them only once, in Germany in 1971. I was in the Army. They were having an off night, and Mick Jagger was being a j*rk, but they cooked on a couple of songs - Honky Tonk Women and Street Fightin' Man.
Thank you Mr Richards, First, thank you and the Stones for your music and especially ‘Ruby Tuesday’ for the line, ‘lose your dreams and you will lose your mind’ and ‘Wild Horses’ which is the only song I play from your vast repertoire! I am happy to know one of your great songs. It is great to hear your tributes to Gram Parsons. You say it in a way that I am sure Gram would be proud; it’s from a true friend. I never figured out why he was lost from sight until I heard yesterday that Jim Croce died the day after he did. One of my favorite albums is ‘Sweetheart of the Rodeo’ and I never knew that Gram had such an influence on that iconic album. If I may say one thing about what you said about Gram’s lifestyle and that is I would only say this. Unfortunately accidents happen and that is it wasn’t anything more than bad luck that day for Gram and it could have happened to all of us dozens of times and I speak for myself. We can’t criticize someone’s way of life and say he or she was too ‘this’ or not enough ‘that’ because we ourselves wouldn’t want someone talking about us like that if we had a mishap and lady luck was out to lunch and it was all over. Gram Parsons sure had a good friend in you and you have made artists round the world keep going for their dreams.
I disagree if you abuse substance it’s not unlucky or an accident - action equals consequences - yes accidents happen to all of us but if you put yourself repeatedly in harms way - your chances are higher of reaping what you sow!
Gram wrote Wild Horses
Very well said sir!
RIP, Gram. RIP.
Man this brought the biggest smile to my face
You should read Keith’s autobiography if you haven’t already. Lot of GP references in it.
"If he only kept his mouth shut"....what a very curious thing to say about Gram's demise....
Mouth shut, as in not imbibing mass quantities of alcohol and drugs.
yes, I thought so as well. In the US, that would suggest foul play. In the UK it might mean something else so I'll just leave it at that. But then, perhaps Keith wanted to say Gram should have kept away from the booze and the drugs but then thought to himself, "That one's gonna come back and bite me."
you inject heroin via ones mouth...its an odd statement for Keif to say about Gram....
After the excesses of psychedelic music, back to basics blues and country were influencing many groups.
Gotta love Keith Richards. He not only talks sense, but in the 1970's he was the coolest guy in town. Was fortunate enough to meet him in a nightclub called Harbour Lights in Barbados-Mick was there too, and they only had one person keeping an eye out for them. Keith had been there on his own the night before, but this time when I looked up and saw him by himself at the bar with a jack and coke I figured it was now or never, what with the Stones having been my favourite group for the past 15 years.
Keith said in a interview once Its not the drugs that kill you Its the lifestyle
Well in some cases seems the drugs became the lifestyle
May he live forever
Jagger recalled his contributions to “Wild Horses” in the liner notes to the 1993 Stones’ anthology Jump Back: The Best Of The Rolling Stones. “I remember we sat around doing this with Gram Parsons, and I think his version came out slightly before ours,” Mick said. “
Yet Parsons Claims Richards and Jagger wrote it, even though he records it a year before them Truly a mysterious song.
@@barneyrubble8255 Maybe they intended to be enigmatic ,together, as they know fans love that...
It always gives the songs more play time..
@@terriqueen3315 th-cam.com/video/8I48TGYnVUY/w-d-xo.html
The song is enigmatic forsure, listening to keith play the chord progression and parsons noodling lead guitar over it, if this video is from before parsons recorded the song, it guess that was parsons contribution and jagger caem up with his vocal phrasing and singing melody much of it based off the soul of parsons guitar noodling.. Technically still making it a jagger and richards song lyric is like 75 % of publshing and richards invented the chord progression, but at the same time theres parsons soulfulness in the song as much as richards and jagger. PArsons then wouldnt feel like he wrote the song, just that he influenced the way jagger sang...with his guitar playing over those richards chords. This makes sense based on the video, and all their later claims.
@@barneyrubble8255 that's not correct. The Stones recorded Wild Horses before Gram did, but Gram released his first. Stones recorded it over a three-day period at Muscle Shoals Sound Studio in Alabama during 2-4 December 1969 but didn't release it till much later. Meanwhile the Burrito Bros released their version six months later in May 1970
The 1960s and early 70s were an unprecedented time in popular music. It was fertile ground for innovation, cross-pollination, and searching for wider and deeper expression. By 1968 many bands and artists were mining the blues, C & W, bluegrass and even jazz to broaden their palettes. I'm sure Gram influenced the Stones, while the Stones influenced hundreds of other artists. Some will argue that the lyrical tone of Wild Horses sounds more like Gram than the Stones, but I think it fits in plausibly with some of the Stones more melancholy ballads of the mid-60s. But these are all opinions, and I'll take Keith and Gram at their word - the Stones wrote WH and gave it to Gram because they knew he would love it and do it justice on his own. Again, just my opinion. But whoever was the main writers(s), they created a fucking masterpiece.
OMG...I love him! I will be sad when he goes...REALLY sad...ok, he's still here, chin up, let's keep enjoying! Sorry, just on a COVID bummer at the moment. Heading to the wine cabinet and the record shelf right now. A glass of red and "Sticky Fingers" on vinyl. Cheers!
sounds like a great plan.
I hear ya. Guy damn near has me in tears.
Grams notebook is the the rock and roll hall of fame with 3 different versions of wild horses including chord progressions… he probably wrote it with Keith while introducing him to some country stuff when they lived together in France. Jagger has said they worked on it together and there’s a recording of gram saying the stones wrote it so who knows?!?
Never mind Gram. What is shocking is that Keith is still alive after all the smoking and drugs and drinking he has done in his life.
He got quality shit and never took too much, high functioning dude
He's 77 but looks more like 97! Still, he's Rock n' Rolls greatest survivor!
@@folgore1 Yeah. Keith should have been the one singing the song I'm A Survivor, not Beyonce and Destiny's Child !!!!
@@folgore1 This video is from 2004. Keith was 60 then.
Pretty shocking, the lifestyle that claimed so many, ultimately, even took Charlie away thogh he quit his drinking and drugging and smoking too, probably not soon enough..
Oddly, it wasn't drugs that killed John Lennon, who took drugs and drank and smoked, it was a gun!
"If he'd just kept his mouth shut ..." I listened to a radio interview done in Massachusetts 6 months before he died and he did not sound strung out or messed up At All; very lucid and candid. Grand Theft Parsons - yeah, watch the movie and judge for yourselves.
It could have just been a weekend of extreme over indulgence that happened. Either way it was so sad and left the world wondering what could have been. Will always Love Gram 💕
Ingram Cecil Connor III (November 5, 1946 - September 19, 1973), known professionally as Gram Parsons, was an American singer, songwriter, guitarist, and pianist. Parsons recorded as a solo artist and with the International Submarine Band, the Byrds, and the Flying Burrito Brothers. He popularized what he called "Cosmic American Music", a hybrid of country, rhythm and blues, soul, folk, and rock
Keef's been my main man over the last 50+ years, and I really hope he'll be there at least as long as me.
Still, GP not only "influenced Keef".
Without GP, there would not have been Sticky Fingers, or the Exile, or probably the Stones altogether.
I love you Keith Richards ❤️💕
Everyone talks about Wild Horses. Listen to Torn and Frayed off of Exile on Main Street some time. You can hear Gram Parsons' influence all over that.
Very much so. A lot of that album feels like Keith talking to Gram musically to me, if that makes sense.
Yep, my favorite song off of Exile and I doubt that very many people know of it. I think the Stones only tried to play it live once to my knowledge with Ron Wood on pedal steel and it definitely needed some work to make it sound better.
That is without a doubt correct .You can also add the song ,"Dead Flowers" off Sticky Fingers on that song list .Gram and Keith were soul brothers .I think Keith learned a lot from Gram ,and Gram wanted to be the 6th Rolling Stone. Both Gram and Keith were doing so many drugs together the band had to Gram out of the Exile On Main Street sessions.
Torn and frayed was written about Keith and Gram
You're absolutely right. I also like to add Sweet Virginia. Read several times that Gram was in the studio when they recorded it (in Keith's basement) and possibly sang backing vocals on it. During the last seconds of the song you can hear somebody say with an American accent: "Far out." Maybe Gram?
I heard Gram had a falling out with the Stones when Mick started to be jealous.. Gram being one of the few people who could out-alpha male Mick.
LMAO Mick is Keiths Bitch
I think (maybe) Mick's issue with Gram wasn't jealousy, it became at one point that Mick felt Gram and Keith were feeding each other (in many ways), but that Gram was taking away focus causing a detoured influence (of time) from the Stones.
Maybe Mick felt Keith should have been working on the Stones and not playing around so much, probably also the worry of the amount of drink/drug usage when they were together. I think/feel losing Keith to drink/drug overdose (or any reason for that matter) would have been detrimental to the Stones, it could have ended the Stones.
It's beyond sad that we lost Gram 💔, I was very much a Gram follower 💕. I am of that time and it is the music that I listen to all the time !!!
☮️🙏💜
@@patexx7091 fucked... come on, it was the 70's
Read Keith's book. I don't ever think there was any "alpha" nonsense as part of the equation. I think Gram and Keith just saw somewhat of a mirror in each other and were a bit struck, musically speaking. Kind of like "where has this person been all my life?". Just a great, symbiotic match. I think 'Country', as a genre, would've found its way into the Stones' music eventually. Gram's influence on Keith simply accelerated the process.
LOL, Jagger is NOT an alpha male. Keith is, but not the effete Jagger.
Gram was from another dimension and Keith was just drinking with him
So right about gram check out gram singing Christian life live in Rome with the Byrd’s on callin me home lp he slows down the tempo it’s like a Gregorian chant so beautiful powerful also you don’t miss your water and hickory wind on same lp all head and shoulders above everything else on that album gram forever
Gotta Love Keef.
Period. Or if you wanna go into the why's and when's you'll wind up with a volume that makes Tolstoy's
War And Peace look like a flyer at your nearest strip mall.
Did Gram influence the Stones? Just listen to 'Wild Horses' and you hear Gram
He knows Gram had a lot to do with influencing the Stones
I was just thinking ( Jah wonderful) of the last chord or about the last one in Can't You Hear Me Knocking, sounds somber, like, it can go someplace else, and I wonder if that was Graham's influence. Just wondering. No blame.
Wild horses is a classic track, brilliant.
Kevan Brown wild horses is a strange one for the stones. Listen to Susan boyles version! It blew my mind and I am sure that Keith would recognise it as perfection!
Actually, I find Gram's version to be perfection.
It's not half bad
@@margaretross9150 Yes, now having listened to it properly, it's a great version.
www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/flying-burrito-brothers-gram-parsons-rolling-stones-wild-horses-1158844/
No one at his age gets away with that kind of outfit except KR. I think all of Stones country song are inspired by Gram.
agreed, except I think Gram wrote the song. he didn't have a "hit" because he didn't live long enough, and country music said he "wasn't country" which is bull, in my opinion. how well versed was Keith with country again? BS
Gram is on record saying he first heard Wild Horses after the Altamont concert and Mick asked him if he could put a steel guitar track on a master if he sent it. Gram said they had some strange dust at the studio and the Stones didn't use the track. Gram asked Mick if he could use the song and released it. The Stones didn't release it until about a year later. You can hear Gram's voice saying it on youtube.
I like to think that too, but if you look at the timeline . . . ( don't get me wrong, I love Gram and I love the Stones, but if you REALLY look at the timing, well . . . ) BUT, Gram DEFINITELY had an influence! Every time I hear "Far Away Eyes" and many other songs I immediately think of Gram! Thanks! Take care, be safe and God Bless!
Randy C
Yes, I saw & heard that interview as well. I wish people would read what truths others share with them in comments, instead of continuing to make up their own story (rumor). They heard it from “horses mouth”, (Gram), and still believe and comment, that Gram wrote it.
Jan -- "No one at his age gets away with that kind of outfit except KR." -- respectfully take into consideration:
For decades upon decades before Keith was born gypsies, bohemians, tramps, hobos, pirates & some eccentric artists dressed this way & many were even older than he is. Mostly European in nature, be it French, Greek, Russian, Austrian, some Italians & Spanish from Spain (Bohos), & much later some old west drifters & drovers.
Keith's get-up is not original -- he's just famous for it. I'm glad he adapted it. It suits him. But he didn't develop it -- he interpreted it.
As for the colorful rubber bands & trinkets that hang from his hair -- the late Captain Lou Albano of wrestling fame wore those 40 years ago & he wasn't young.
Why doesn’t anyone give Gram any credit for anything?
Many artists give him credit for greatly influencing their careers; Emmylou Harris, Dwight Yoakam, Ian Tyson, Jim Lauderdale, Evan Dando among them. Linda Ronstadt said they had a shared musical vision. The Stones maybe not so much.
Gram was like Hendrix and bolan all of them were creating amazing music which was well ahead of their time each of them were musical geniuses 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Parsons es maravilloso, único,hay personas que la vida les viene grande,descanse en paz ,su música llena mi alma,
When gram done an interview which is on TH-cam he said when he was in London and with Keith Richard’s and mick jagger he asked them if he could use the song wild horses on his album and Keith and mick both agreed he could that doesn’t sound like someone who wrote the track it sounds like someone asking the song writers permission to use that song no disrespect to gram intended
And he sang the song so beautifully.
an extended version of how the Stones monetized Gram Parsons talent
Keith🙏💛🙌 Gram RIP
Keith giving health advice?😆
This wasn't the first time, he also stepped up for former bandmates, Bobby Keys & Charlie Watts, during some challenging points of their lives. He knows what's going on!!
When Keith tells you to “cool it with the drugs, man”, you know it’s serious.
🤭
You can tell that he has really honed that answer over the years. Haha
possible cover up
Does Johnny Depp pay Richards royalties for ripping off his persona?
He let Keith play his father in the Pirates movies, so yeah, he does pay him royalties.
Richard's splits the royalty with The Hunter S. Thompson Estate.
Lol yeah Johnny Depp really does not know who he is, and Richards is one of a kind - there is only one Keith Richards but Depp does not know who he really is - and he's a actor so he imitates cool and interesting people like Keith Richards
Astrid Mourning yea he is the ultimate pirate
@@Cyan3031 Johnny Depp . . . LOL! . . . I would say more, especially about his troubles with his EX, but I don't want to be mean.
We need to start thinking about the kind of world we want to leave to Keith Richards
Shut up with this line.
Brilliant.
Check out the 2 Gary Usher Byrds specials for more about this and Gram Parsons time in the Byrds.
Enough with the conspiracy theories! Can't we love both artists without this nonsense. Wild Horses is a Stones composition, everyone who was there confirms this. The Stones, Jimmy Miller, Bobby Keys, and Jim Dickinson all say this. Even Gram himself( list to audio clip in "What happened to Gram Parsons) says "they gave it to me to record"
Just that nobody can believe that jagger would be generous enough to give away one of the best things he ever written...
There’s a lesson here for all of us. I just don’t know what it is. When aliens finally visit the burned out husk of this planet in a few million years, I hope keef has a good line up of stones songs picked out to play for them.
Parsons lost his Dad (by suicide) when he was 12, and his Mum when he was 19 (boozed herself to death). Might have made him try to ease the pain via booze and drugs.
Didn't know that about his family background, how tragic. Why though was he asked to leave Nellcote? That must have been deeply hurting.
@@joefairweatherblues8511 His wife said it did hurt him a lot. On the other hand it got him to focus on recording again, producing his two solo albums before he lost the struggle.
Unclear, however clear
What does he mean if Grahm not Gram had kept his mouth shut, it didn't need to happen??
This comment makes me uneasy.
Keith may have been referring to Gram's death being due to the effects of his combining morphine with alcohol. He once said that Gram knew better than to do that.
@@margaretross9150 Keep his mouth shut just gives me the chills.
@@irishguy200007 - no doubt about it....
Keef is an atheist but reaches to the heavens for Gram.
keith once said that he isn't religious but he is a spiritual guy. he is not atheist IMO.
@@hakancevikel7368 yeah I don't think so either...
Check out gram singing Christian life live in Rome with the Byrd’s on callin me home lp it’s like a Gregorian chant the genius of gram parsons beautiful powerful thank you gram god bless you forever
Humm, one of the few times I've seen Keef looking nervous and unsettled? I'd bet a tonne Wild Horses was a GP song or at least came out of a jam as a demo/rough cut.
Edit, yeah, what was that line KR said at 1:01 "if he would have kept his mouth shut"?
@@patexx7091 Other than the fact the Wild Horses sounds just like a Gram Parsons song, and the Rolling Stones did the country influenced songs at the time Parsons and Richards were hanging out and friends? John Lennon has said The Stones always put out an album two months after the Beatles trying to cope the Beatles vibe.
I'm guessing the "mouth shut" comment just means he shouldn't have mixed an opiate with alcohol, something Keith has referred to before. That combination of respiratory depressants sadly pushed Gram over the edge. Those guys thought they knew what they were doing, but they were flirting with death, especially Gram, who had a family history of addiction.
According to Gram himself, no. The stones had already recorded the song when Gram first heard it. He then was asked to play a steel guitar over the master and agreed but the stones decided not to use the remaster but gave Gram permission to release the song as payback for trying the steel guitar recording despite it not ever being used. Gram said this in his own words.
It's good that even Keith underwent various substance abuse & booze, he really was aware of his limits-unlike other drug or substance users like Gram Parsons & Brian Jones, they really hit rock bottom until they lost their lives.
That's just mythologizing. Does Keith have an unusually sturdy constitution? That seems pretty obvious, but he's also VERY lucky. He could just as easily have died as any other drug casualty in the '70s.
It was the OPPOSITE of mythologizing, the guy suggested Keith KNEW the limit to his string. How did you misinterpret that? If anything what you said was myth.
Why do so many things turn around to being about Richards? The question was about Parsons....
It's so amazing that this guy smokes,drinks like a fish and God only knows what else and he is still alive..
Strong genes or just very lucky!
God bless you Keith👍
Keith has'nt lived like that for years , he even quit smoking !
They were all photo-ops anyway. He's a machine creation.
Blood doping?
Richards lies when he said Gram Parsons did not influence the Stones.
What did they know about country music ?
He must of loved him if he gave him wild horses to record a year before the stones
what is it about Gram, everybody loved him?
Charming personality, lovely manners, heartbreaking vocals, haunting lyrics, deep understanding of American musical styles, good sense of humour, gorgeous appearance, great sense of style; I've probably missed a few. Unfortunately coupled with self destructiveness and erratic behaviour. Legend.
Everybody is influenced by everybody,
Prop came before the jet,
Wild,wild Horses, one has gone to pasture.
It was Dylan who broke away from the scene imo with stuff like John Wesley Harding that showed the way. That said Gram played on my favourite Byrd’s record Sweetheart of the Rodeo
amazing album! Byrds owe Gram a lot!!!
I gonna put in a straight comment, and not do 'replies' to all these wrong-way riffs on Gram & the Stones: yeah, Kieth and Gram were natural soul-mates, socially and even more so musically: they were both of that very rare breed who can grasp Composition, Arrangement, and Orchestration as naturally as picking the strings. They were both Chord Construction & Chord Progression guys; both the kind who will sit up for two nights to find the right way to fret A Minor Suspended-that's what they loved about each other, Gram probably had more of that in him than even Mick did, which probably why they would never get along. What Gram DID lack, was anything like the DISCIPLINE that Mick & Kieth have brought to their music for near-on 60 years, Gram was never going to work that hard, and Kieth knew that also. That some of it must have come out of the all-night jams with Gram, is why musicians jam in the first place. More than Kieth picked up from Ry Cooder, or Al Kooper, or even Scotty Moore, who he never did record with? Does it Matter?
Thats what i think the song came out of an all night drug jam with richards mic and parsons. That would make sense why they would let him record it first, but also why parsons claims that richards and jagger wrote it, they may of wrote most of it, playing off of what ever parsons was doing
Thank you keef❤
GP "should have kept his mouth shut?" What's that supposed to mean?
Yeah I was wondering that too . Should have been a follow up question
It means he shouldn't have drunk so much booze. Difficult to drink your self to death with your mouth shut.
Ted Kennedy the drugs didn’t help either.
The word he is looking for is 'Heroin'.
Two words:
WILD HORSES
Two more words:
DEAD FLOWERS
Two more words
Rolling Stones
Sounds so much like Spinal Tap... in a good way of course.
Gram wrote Wild Horses. I don’t care what anyone says otherwise.
Gram himself has told the story and was clear that the Stones wrote it. I see no reason to doubt that
No he didn’t Keith Richard’s and mick jagger wrote it there’s a interview with gram and he said he asked Keith and mick for permission to use the track on his album
if you know grams music you can just tell wild horses was greatly influenced by gram
So what's the guess on Keith's age in this interview?
I say 30
Because if I remember correctly his plan was to celebrate his 30th birthday that night with a huge alcohol and drug fuelled party 🥳...
... or was it just a normal Wednesday?
I always get them mixed up.
Did Keith have the same kind words to say about Brian.
"kept his mouth shut"?????
Weird comment
@@sk8taway - for sure...
you all can "think" whatever you like, parsons did NOT write wild horses, he influenced the final product
Steve Covaleski the stones have a pattern of “borrowing” songs. Sad but true
They took a lot from Gram. Anything twangy from the Stones can be aligned with a Gram tune. For example, compare Far Away Eyes to Grams Hippie Boy.
Here's one for you Keith: You always look up for the dearly departed, have you ever looked down?
I think Gram's up, but he may have had some explaining to do.
You keep your mouth shut or they shut it for u. Some of my friends dont know who they belong to .
I sense some serious resentment from clean living fucks who know they'll never live as long as Keith or accomplish as much as he has in his life.There should be a big picture of Keith having a smoke and whiskey in every gym when he turns 80 shortly.Not an ounce of fat on him.
SOULJAH ROCKER
Gram wrote Wild Horses..Period!!!!He deserves the credit.
Damn straight, Gram Parsons wrote "Wild Horses." John Lennon complained about the Stones ripping off the Beatles' concept albums. In my opinion, Keith knows more about GP than he is willing to admit--not to mention his drug habit.
I'm sure he did when you listen to the lyrics it has gram written all over it
Gram didn't write it. Mick and Keith did.
This is of course according to Gram himselfth-cam.com/video/ABtba2TYpr8/w-d-xo.html
no he didnt
'connection i just can't make no connections...'
Mr. Parsons, another victim, of drug overdose : morphine and alcohol. Sad, such a talent
Wild horses was written by Parsons, they 'borrowed' it....seems they did a lot of that....am I wrong. Should hear John Lennon's opinion of them.
I..me..my...Gram? Started out about Gram..Until the Ego trip
Richards didnt answer the question: Did Parsons influence the stones.
@GFrank2 exactly
He answered it immediately. They were “leaning in the same direction” a really terrific and incite full response.
@GFrank2
Exactly. Keith Richards never admits any influence unless it's someone that came along long before the Stones, like Berry, Elvis etc.
@@JohnLnyc Exactly, the answer is something in between yes and no. More yes, I suspect.
@@RobinSchoutenRS Agree. There’s a lot of “cross pollinating” that takes place with music. A lot of it subconscious. “Influence” is a bit stronger implying a direct and easily definable thing. Chuck Berry for example influenced Keith, you can hear it. Keith will readily cite it. Parsons and Keith were contemporaries and some less definable attributes of each might rub off on each other.
strange words considering it was keith who turned him onto ..heroin …if he hadnt meet the stones he would still be alive
perhaps...
Keith, I’d like to ask you one question if you will, please? Did Gram finally figure that alcohol and drugs would be the only way that he would get his full dues by just killing himself? I will always wonder because he appeared to be so far ahead of his “time”.
I'm obviously not Keith, but his sister said something similar once. However, after reading his bios I think he had problems with depression after his disjointed, grief-stricken childhood. That last year he looked pretty miserable in most pictures of him except when he was performing with Emmylou Harris. If his personal life had improved, I think there was a chance for him, but time and luck ran out. Such a sad loss!
Strange isn't it, that Keith say's that Gram would still probably be alive if, (And Im directly quoting Keith here.) "" If he (meaning Gram) could of just kept his mouth shut""
Hmm... Now why would Gram still be alive if he had just kept his mouth shut?
The official cause of death for Gram Parson was the result of a supposed heroin over does. Which it self seemed to embody some unusual circumstances...
In fact there was even a short documentary made about the events that surrounded Gram. Parson's supposed heroin overdose.
But according to one of Grams best friends, Keith Richards, Gram didn't die from a heroin over dose at all... He died because he wouldn't keep his mouth shut" Hmm....
Why would someone die simply because they wouldn't keep their mouth shut?...
Perhaps there is a little more to this story, than what we have been told by either the officials involved, or that was touched upon in the either of the documentaries made about Gram.. One being "Fallen Angel" done with Emily Lou Harris, who makes a strange comment in that doc, and I quote " If only that one person hadn't shown up at the wrong time" As though it sounds like a heroin dealer or old contact who somehow got Gram back on heroin, its just to convenient, in that it gives a not so credible support for the official explanation, that Gram simply died of a heroin overdose.. It sounded more like she was just trying fit the official narrative. But it didn't sound, at least to me, like she was actually describing the real events that led to his death..
Also on one of his albums, he is shown standing next to a motel room with his band and a girl, who looks like the supposed girl who was according to the official story at the motel in Joshua Tree, when he supposedly overdosed...
The motel room in Joshua Tree was #8 and the room on the album cover was also #8.
Does that sound like more than a coincidence to you? It sort of does to me.. After all the odds of that happening purely randomly are to say the least an extremely unlikely correspondence...
The so called manager of his band, just happened to be locked up with Charles Manson, several years before anybody even knew who Manson was.. And of course this manager is the same clown who supposedly had a pact with Gram that if either of them died, the other would burn the others body, so not to have to be subjected to a normal burial., Ya, right. That explanation makes zero sense, and yet this precisely why, the manager claimed that he stole Grams body, took it to the desert and tried to burn it to ashes.
It sounds to me as like Gram was probably murdered, or perhaps ordered by some governmental agency such as the CIA to kill himself or to face much more painful form of death at their hands..
Any Ideas?
Did you really just try to link the CIA to Gram Parsons death? Take your meds.
If you think anyone will read that nonsensical rambling conspiracy then you really are off your meds.
I think you're on to something that we will never know for sure, which is
a tragedy. I loved Gram, then and now.
Actually the evidence is not vague. The fact that the CIA used both those who control the music industry in Hollywood at that time and the fact that almost every major hippie music star in Hollywood came from highly placed families who were either blue blood elites, as in the case of David Crosby and in some respects Gram Parson and or that their families were deeply entrenched in the military industrial complex is an established fact.. The objective of the operation was to destroy the credibility of both the growing and very legitimate anti war movement on college campuses by mixing two together and making the legitimate movement look like a bunch of dirty lazy, drug taking hippies.. And by so doing the American public would turn their backs on the legitimate movement.. And thus the draft could continue3 and the war would be make to look as a legitimate and necessary policy...
Every musician who got involved and then decided that they didn't want to participate anymore, were categorized as a liability because they might start talking about were eliminated...
And if you listen to Grams interviews, he mentions quite clearly that he thought that while with the Byrds he had reason to believe that his life was in danger..
In one of the interviews, Emmy Lou Harris was with and she seemed to understand what he was referring to....
A lot good artists who originally participated were eventually murdered including
Al "Blind Owl Wilson of "Canned Heat"
Mama Cass Elliot - Was not from a connected family, but she went to HS with Jim Morrison in Maryland and whos father was the Admiral on the U.S.S. Maddox at the Gulf of Tonkin and he was responsible for the false reports used to start the Viet Nam war... Believe it or not.... Jim was part of the operation from the beginning and probably had something to do with getting Mama Cass into the Circle...
John Phillips of the Mama's and the Papas was not a hippie.. He was a graduate of U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis.. Why would he turn into a hippie, that is unless he was also working for the Govt at the same time.
was in. She was next door neighbors with Abigail Folgers who was killed with Sharon Tate and was friends with Charles Manson.
And was actually slated to testify on his behalf but that testimony was not allowed to take place... Its was way risky of an exposure... She never choked on a Ham sandwich. They wee mocking her...
Jimmy Hendrix - was still an active member of the101st airborne at the time of his death..
Janis Joplin= her father was connected in the Oil industry in Texas
Dennis Wilson was not connected but he was right in the middle of it and was a major liability.
Gram Parsons - His father was Air Force Ace and his family "the Snively's were extremely rich.
Brian Jones of the "Rolling Stones" was killed on orders by MI-6 And Mick was a major player and took over...
The operation included both American and British artists through M I 6 in London..
The r3ason why the British participated is very a dangerous topic and is too deep to get into here...
The connection of this operation to the Sharon Tate murder is a very real and purposeful connection.
Manson was put into the scene on Laurel Canyon by the CIA and when his follower killed Tate and others who knew what was going on, the CIA through the media used the murder scene along with the Altamont concert event to kill the very movement that they themselves had created just a few years earlier..
The original operation was not going as planned and was risking public exposure..
Since the CIA was illegally conducting an operation on US soil, the risk was too great and so they killed it...
Thats not what may of happened,
this is what the facts and the evidence prove happened... Whether you or anybody else likes it or not...
Some true facts about the 60's hippie music scene.
Proceed at your own risk.
First, the evidence is not vague. The fact that the CIA used both those
who control the music industry in Hollywood at that time and the fact
that almost every major hippie music star in Hollywood came from highly
placed families who were either blue blood elites, as in the case of
David Crosby and in some respects Gram Parson and or that their families
were deeply entrenched in the military industrial complex is an
established fact..
The objective of the operation was to destroy
the credibility of both the growing and very legitimate anti war
movement on college campuses by mixing two together and making the
legitimate movement look like a bunch of dirty lazy, drug taking
hippies.. And by so doing the American public would turn their backs on
the legitimate movement..
And thus the draft could continue3 and
the war would be make to look as a legitimate and necessary policy...
Every musician who got involved and then decided that they didn't want
to participate anymore, were categorized as a liability because they
might start talking about were eliminated...
If you listen to the
interviews by Gram Parsons before he was killed, you will see thaty he
mentions quite clearly that he thought that while with the Byrds he had
reason to believe that his life was in danger..
The fact that one of his closest musician friends Keith Richards of the "Rolling Stones" states in a recorded interview
"if only Gram had kept his mouth shut" he would still be here is not a
mistake in his use of words.. His intent, his meaning and his demeanor
are obvious and there is no doubt about the words he spoke... Gram was
killed because he couldn't keep his mouth shut...
In one of the interviews, Emmy Lou Harris was with and she seemed to understand what he was referring to....
A lot good artists who originally participated were eventually murdered including but not limited too..
1. Al "Blind Owl" Wilson of "Canned Heat"
2. Jimmy Hendrix - was still an active member of the101st airborne at the time of his death..
3. Janis Joplin- her father was connected in the Oil industry in Texas
4. Dennis Wilson was not connected but he was right in the middle
of it and was a major liability.
5. Gram Parsons - His father was Air Force Ace and his family "the
Snively's were extremely rich orange barons in Florida.
6. Mama Cass Elliot - Was not from a connected family, but she went to
HS with Jim Morrison in Maryland who as you will see was deeply involved
and she was probably recruited by him in LA.
Cass Elliot was not
only next door neighbors with Abigail Folgers in Laurel Canyon, who
was killed with Sharon Tate. She was also friends with Charles Manson(
thats probably not a coincidence).
Cass Elliot was actually slated to testify on Manson's behalf but that testimony was not allowed to take place...
Its was simply too risky of an exposure for the wider operation itself.
But it does help explain why she was considered a liability and was eventually killed..She never choked on a Ham sandwich.
They were simply mocking her...
7. Brian Jones of the "Rolling Stones" was killed probably on orders by
MI-6. Since the murders were known and yet never charged.. And since
Mick was a major player who was recruited while studying economics at a
prominent school. He was slated to take over...
The operation
included both American and British artists through M I 6 in London.. The
reason why the British participated is very a dangerous topic and is
too deep to get into here.. The Leaders on the Hippie side of the Operation.
1. Jim Morrison whos father was the Admiral on the U.S.S. Maddox at the
Gulf of Tonkin and it was his false reports about fabricated attacks
that were used to start the Viet Nam war... Believe it or not....
Jim Morrison went to Paris to escape media attention and then was
shuffled off into the CIA's version of the witness protection.. Don't
believe it? You should because its exactly what happened...
2. John
Phillips of the Mama's and the Papas was not a hippie.. He was a
graduate of U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis.. Why would he turn into a
hippie, that is unless he was also working for the Govt at the same
time.
3. David Crosby of the "Byrds" and later "CSNY" comes from a
blue blood family who's political connections were deep and long
standing.
4. Frank Zappa's dad was chemical research specialist at
the Army's Edge wood Arsenal.. He's was the smartest of the whole group
and was used to keep things on track. He didn't need to record hit
records. His friend Capt Beef heart was also part of it.
When
Frank contracted Cancer in the early 90's Frank seemed to think that
instead of identifying it and treating it, they decided to further
reduce the liability of those who knew to much from talking.
The connection of this operation to the Sharon Tate murder is a very
real and purposeful connection. Manson was put into the scene on Laurel
Canyon by the CIA and when his follower killed Tate and others who knew
what was going on, the CIA through the media used the murder scene along
with the Altamont concert event to kill the very movement that they
themselves had created just a few years earlier.. The original operation
was not going as planned and was risking public exposure..
Since the CIA was illegally conducting an operation on US soil, the risk was too great and so they killed it...
Thats not what may of happened, this is what the facts and the evidence prove happened...
Whether you or anybody else likes it or not...
his hed looks like a xmas tree lol
what does he say at 0:20 as he points to the sky?
Something vaguely jamaican is my assumption but dont quote me on that
He says “jah wonderful” jah means god
I have never heared him stubble on one single word or repeterad himself.
Gram did have influence on the Stones without a hit record. Richards' ego is in the way. Richard simply will not give credit to Gram Parsons. One can tell by Richard's hand gestures and what he is saying. He's attempting to go around the subject of Parsons' influence.
This is true. For all the problems, addiction, etc., he had, the man was also a genius. He always seemed to be one step ahead, especially with his accomplishments!
Maybe the Stones had a influence on Gram, they did give him Wild Horses to record.